this is a quick poll to find out what kind of transmission the people here have. just vote for one or the other. the more votes, the more accurate this will be. thanks.

this poll is for xA and xB owners only. if you have a new civic or something, that's great, but please don't vote because it will just screw up the poll. thanks.

this poll will run for 30 days. maybe in a year i will do another one to compare the difference.

automatic

Wow..it's pretty balanced as of now... i assume there will be more Manual xB and xA out there... cuz i think Toyota may have produced more Manual Transmission and not to mention cheaper pricing incentive with Manuals.

well they both have their pros and cons. the manual is more fun to drive, in my opinion, but the auto is still cool because it makes for a nice cruiser.

Automatic... hands belong on juggling 6 Discs http://www.scionlife.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

I like driving the car, not the car driving me...so mine will be manual http://www.scionlife.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

well they both have their pros and cons. the manual is more fun to drive, in my opinion, but the auto is still cool because it makes for a nice cruiser.

The Japanese produce bulletproof manual transmissions, but I still hear of problems with their automatics, so the manual is the choice for reliability.

Also, my wife insisted on a manual. That overrides all other considerations!

George

hery george, i'm sure you knew this but the bB only comes in an automatic in japan. this is why i don't think the bB tuning thing ever really caught on in japan.

i got auto. manuals are for reading.

hery george, i'm sure you knew this but the bB only comes in an automatic in japan. this is why i don't think the bB tuning thing ever really caught on in japan.

Actually, I didn't! Seems kind of strange to have it that way. Is the bB aimed at Gen-Y over there or is it aimed at the general public? Might be that the manual option was added to appeal to the young (and young at heart).

In any case, when the wife says "manual", who am I to argue? :) If the 2WD Honda CRV came with a 5-speed we'd probably be driving one right now, but since they force an automatic on that model we waited for something better to come along, which was the xB!

George

i think there might be some power issues in an automatic, a 5 speed is very peppy around town, especially when you keep the revs up high

Surprisingly, no problems being a lil more than peppy in automatic, I test drove both.

hey, like i said before, it's all good. i like that you have a choice and there is nothing wrong with getting either one. i wouldn't mind driving either if i didn't have a choice, but personally i enjoy driving a manual transmission more. i've had automatic cars and i've had manual cars, and i just enjoy manuals so much more. speed isn't the issue. it's just fun for me. engine braking, choosing when the gears shift, and having something to do other than hold the wheel straight are some reasons why i like manual. but there are plenty of reasons to love auto as well.

I've been driving manual ever since I learned to drive. I find myself bored if I'm driving one of my friends autos. Proly because I've have drivin manual for a while.

Got myself an auto cause i got my stick crx....so i got both, one for cruisin and long trips and one for speed and work. Only thing i really want with that auto is a cruise control.

Hubert

i got manual. its my first car and ive always wanted to drive a manual. its fun.

manual is awesome..especially for that extra push... however when it comes to convenience like holding hands with ur girl while cruising ..auto is more than a convenience, not to mention eating ur hamburger with one hand and holding a drink in the other.

Yes, if xB was considered a performance car i would have opted to get manual, but with the cruising motif of the xB...auto trans does the job great.

[color=red]Here here! I second that emotion Blue Box - Crusing down the Monterey Coast and having a hand free is great.... :D

i don't like paying +$15,000 to buy a go cart. Manual tranny till' I die. Which reminds me... I gotta teach my wife how to drive stick shift... sigh...

Go Karts Rock !

i went with the stick cause it felt like it had more pep when i drove it.....

i tested both out first and am glad i chose the stick as it really goes well with that VVT-I engine.... :lol:

the manual is totally more performance minded compared to the auto.

but that's cool, not everyone needs that extra pep. however, any of you fools that buy an auto and then immediately got on here asking when turbo kits are going to be coming out...that's unwise. if you wanted performance, you could save yourself a lot of money and just have gotten manual in the first place. if you want to hold hands or manually stimulate your girlfriend while you drive, that's another story. but you guys do realize that you only need to shift when you're changing speeds, and when you are just cruising down the highway, your right hand is free to do whatever it wants.

once people go manual, sometimes they never go back. so the excuse that you or your girlfriend or wife doesn't know how is retarded. the xB is one of the easiest manuals i've ever driven, and you can teach or be taught how to drive one in less than 20 minutes. you only live once (unless you're hindu).

To hell with my girlfriends, have you tried managing a 44oz drink (not a 40, naughty naughty) while driving stick, ptooey, ptooey I say !

To hell with my girlfriends, have you tried managing a 44oz drink (not a 40, naughty naughty) while driving stick, ptooey, ptooey I say !

so you didn't get a manual transmission so you could drink large sodas while you drive? to each his own, i say.

Give me convienence or give me death !

actually, it's more JDM to get an automatic, since a manual bB is not available in japan.

Don't have my xB yet, but I'll be going with an auto when I get it. I have a stick in my Miata, and while it's fun out in the desert or whatever, it's a b*tch in LA gridlock.

yeah, i really only drive in the desert, so i got a stick.

i keep trying to talk my g/f into a stick, but she is getting a slowmatic xA.

yeah, i really only drive in the desert, so i got a stick.

ahaha too funny :lol:

actually, it's more JDM to get an automatic, since a manual bB is not available in japan.
i'm gonna use that excuse instead of admitting that my wife wanted an a/t

automatic

Since it's a cruiser car, I might have considered getting the auto-tranny if it came with steering wheel column mounted shifter just like the JDM bB. But as you know, US version has the lame same-o floor auto-gear selector. Lame~

ok, so after over 80 votes, we have a 60/40 split on manual vs. automatic. i wonder what that ratio is for element or PT cruiser owners. probably more like 20/80 manual to auto ratio. pretty interesting.

ok, so after over 80 votes, we have a 60/40 split on manual vs. automatic. i wonder what that ratio is for element or PT cruiser owners. probably more like 20/80 manual to auto ratio. pretty interesting.

You also have to remember that this is just for ScionLife members. I'd assume that most of us want a little more control than what the automatic provides so we'd have more members choosing manual. I wouldn't be surprised if they sold more automatics than manuals.

Automatic

ok, so after over 80 votes, we have a 60/40 split on manual vs. automatic. i wonder what that ratio is for element or PT cruiser owners. probably more like 20/80 manual to auto ratio. pretty interesting.

You also have to remember that this is just for ScionLife members. I'd assume that most of us want a little more control than what the automatic provides so we'd have more members choosing manual. I wouldn't be surprised if they sold more automatics than manuals.

oh yeah. duh. where is verone or van? maybe they would know which sells more.

i don't like paying +$15,000 to buy a go cart. Manual tranny till' I die. Which reminds me... I gotta teach my wife how to drive stick shift... sigh...
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ouch i have a world super kart , that i run at willow and other cali trackz, it has TZ250engine and does in excess of 150 MPH. next best thing to indy , or F1. they are fastest thing around for 10k period. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Got an automatic...

Really wanted a stick, I hate automatics, but g/f, soon to be wife, can't drive one. Granted the clutch take up is really short compared to my s2k. Stick is kinda low though. I only wish she will learn to drive stick - she doesn't even want to learn :(.

Btw, the auto doesn't shift very quickly, it seems there is a 1 sec. gap between upshifts. Maybe I am used to sticks, but it is a little annoying at times. I am hoping it's due to the lack of torque for crisp shifts. I hope the gap doesn't increase, as the older Honda automatics tend to exhibit.

Yeah but alot of people are under the illusion that the car is sooo much slower with auto, its no big deal, its fine.

yeah, it's fine. but it is slower. no big deal though. this car wasn't meant for speed anyway.

5speed

I prefered the manual, i get to control the speed for each gear.....maual all the way!

I got the good ol' automatic. I do alot of driving in L.A. area and ne1 who has driven in bumper to bumper knows how nice it is to have an automatic.

ROFLMAO!
this topic is a classic...
performance vs. puddintang :roll:
taking charge vs. takin' it easy

I agree with you Eric. we all drive in the dessert here in so cal!
although, sometimes it's a jungle. :twisted:

my first truck was a toyota pickup - 4 speed manual
lowered w/ wheels and fun to drive :D
second truck was a ford ranger 4x4 - 4 speed auto
just had the 4x4 thing going on :P
third truck is a toyota tundra 4x2 - 4 speed auto
cadillac with a bed in back :?
fourth will be the xB - MANUAL
cuz I'll fall asleep at the wheel if I own another automatic :wink:

clutch is tough in traffic -> Scion clutch is like butta
hand on stick shift instead of g/f -> let her 'shift' too! :wink:
can't hold my 44oz & burger -> remember the 'french fry passenger' commercial?
can't hold my 44oz & burger (solo) -> does the Scion come with cup holders?
etc, etc, etc...

manual vs. automatic is purely preference, I agree.
just don't let excuses decide your preferences!

sammypsycho,
I had a 125cc tony kart, which did about 90+ w/ selected gearing at Adams,
but a TZ250 in a shifter kart? Got any pics? what year TZ250?

the scion has really low gearing and is pretty cool for heavy traffic. just leave it in first or second and you're done. and shifting is so effortless in this car, there really isn't a good reason to get an auto unless you just think the manual is too fast for you and need something slower with less gas mileage. in my subaru with lightened flywheel and really crazy gearing, traffic sucked. maybe that's why i don't mind my scion in traffic as much. i just like to choose what RPM my car shifts in i guess. low rpm shifting for cruising, and high rpm for darting around.

I got automatic. Was leaning towards manual, but I want my folks and my girl to be able to drive it if need be, so I thought I'd keep it simple.

-HighEnd

ok, so after over 80 votes, we have a 60/40 split on manual vs. automatic. i wonder what that ratio is for element or PT cruiser owners. probably more like 20/80 manual to auto ratio. pretty interesting.

i have the stick myself.......

i noticed that there is now a long wait for the stick and loads of auto's around....

i do not know if that is due to demand for the auto, or the sticks all got bought up....

stick..with the trd short throw

We ordered the Auto even though I would have LOVED to get a manual my hubby is lazy!LOL~ Really he didn;t want to have to drive a manual in the traffic. But they are more fun to drive!!~ can you believe he won the argument??? of course he is the one buying it for me so I won't complain to much!!LOL~

Automatic I admit it...the motor is to small for a stick thats just my opinion...I have a stick in my honda so I needed a auto to relax in....

Automatic for me!

When I get an xB, that will be a manual.

automatic

Confusious say "if man were meant to drive a 5 speed, he would have a 3rd foot"

CB

I got an automatic xb it will be in my possesion in January

We got a manual. It was the only one we could find in the area. I would have preferred the dark cherry, but they only had a manual in white so that's what we took. I never thought I'd own a white car, but it's really growing on me. :)

I am leaning toward the Auto, because I want to get remote start, and I am interested in just cruising. Goin from my V8 Pony, I don't really need a 5 speed 4 banger, it won't perform like I want. Though I would like a five speed because there is a shift knob that I want, it is off da hizzy!!! Who knows, decisions, decisions...


Doc

Automatic for me too. Never driven a stick and neither do my folks. They use my ride during their yard sale runs and at Home Depot. I just want to Cruise around town, drive really slow with the bass thumping. SPRING BREAK 2004, South Beach!!!

Manual 8) .

We got one of each. My wife wanted the auto for the sake of the baby and I opted for a stick.

If I'd not be stuck in traffic I'd have gotten the stick. HOWEVER ... I got the thing for a COWmuter MOObile. Long trips in stop and go are NOT fun with a stick. Yah a stick is more fun to drive any place else but stop and go ... which is why I got the auto.

P. S. I cowdn't vote (got some kinda error) ... so add 1 to the automagic for me please.

tanks.

Dig the Cow puns! you better lay low though with all that MADCOW stuff goin on in the news 8) ...Personally I have a stick... I think thats the only way to go! Test drove the auto and really wasnt too impressed... got my XB manual without even test driving a stick version.

Getting my Manual Thundercloud a week from tommorow !

manual, my girl holds my drink and feeds me my food while I drive :lol:

I got the Auto and I will challenge EVERY one of you stick drivers to beat me into the City. If the Auto seemed gutless, you just weren't pushing the gas pedal hard enough. The reason I got the Auto was because of the way it is laid out with each gear separate. You don't HAVE to leave it on D. First turn off the O/D, 321. When I want to down-shift I do, when I want to hold the revs up I can. And I never get clutch foot. Try sitting in your car and just push your clutch in and hold it for 1 minute, let it out for 20 seconds, push in for 30 seconds, let it out for 10 seconds. Now hold it down for 90 seconds. REPEAT for a 10 to 20 minute period. That will simulate the Tollgate backup at the Bay Bridge. Tell me how the sole of your foot feels. Feel that pedal callous? Not on my left foot.

I got the Auto and I will challenge EVERY one of you stick drivers to beat me into the City. If the Auto seemed gutless, you just weren't pushing the gas pedal hard enough. The reason I got the Auto was because of the way it is laid out with each gear separate. You don't HAVE to leave it on D. First turn off the O/D, 321. When I want to down-shift I do, when I want to hold the revs up I can. And I never get clutch foot. Try sitting in your car and just push your clutch in and hold it for 1 minute, let it out for 20 seconds, push in for 30 seconds, let it out for 10 seconds. Now hold it down for 90 seconds. REPEAT for a 10 to 20 minute period. That will simulate the Tollgate backup at the Bay Bridge. Tell me how the sole of your foot feels. Feel that pedal callous? Not on my left foot.

Don't need to, don't have to deal with traffic period. Whole reason I got a stick. No traffic and will have more fun wih it.

manual

I orderd an manual. What im concered with is if im going to have the money they asked for me to put down. Hope so :D

I orderd an manual. What im concered with is if im going to have the money they asked for me to put down. Hope so :D


A congrats is in order for another newb. :D Welcome to the site!

this is a quick poll to find out what kind of transmission the people here have. just vote for one or the other. the more votes, the more accurate this will be. thanks.

this poll is for xA and xB owners only. if you have a new civic or something, that's great, but please don't vote because it will just screw up the poll. thanks.

this poll will run for 30 days. maybe in a year i will do another one to compare the difference.

XB, Automatic, 1/15/2004
David :)

Had to let the wife be able to take the car to work as well. :(

To all the people _____ing about traffic w/ a manual transmission, I work in DC and I deal with bumper-to-bumper everyday. The extra exercise my lower left leg gets is definitely worth not dealing with the hassles of an automatic. Once you learn how to drive a manual, you will rarely think about the extra efforts when stuck in traffic. It becomes natural. I'll never buy another automatic again, whether the car is a racer or grocery getter.

To all the people _____ing about traffic w/ a manual transmission, I work in DC and I deal with bumper-to-bumper everyday. The extra exercise my lower left leg gets is definitely worth not dealing with the hassles of an automatic. Once you learn how to drive a manual, you will rarely think about the extra efforts when stuck in traffic. It becomes natural. I'll never buy another automatic again, whether the car is a racer or grocery getter.

IMHO I dont think its an issue of learning to drive a manual.
I think its a hassle to be doing clutch-gas-brake motions repetitively while watching out for the fools around you stopping and tailgating all the time and cutting in.
Its alot easier to worry about two pedals and mostly just one-the gas- if you do it right. It gets old, day in and day out driving in hour and a half bumper to bumper traffic.

Half the reason I want a new car is to get an automatic.

Joe

Half the reason I want a new car is to get an automatic.

Joe

*That`s why I bought my wife an Automatic Xb :lol:

I got a manual and I love it. :D

I ordered my RS 1.0 in Automatic.

Eric

Got my BCP Automatic 2.4.04

SUP PLAYAS THIS IS MONEY
OF COURSE I GOT A MANUAL TRANS. I DONT SEE WHY THEY EVEN MAKE AUTOMATICS. NO OFFENSE BUT I HAVE ALWAYS PREFERED A MANUAL OVER AN AUTO. IN FACT I HAVE NOT YET OWNED AN AUTOMATIC.
MONNNEY2000@YAHOO.COM

hey, like i said before, it's all good. i like that you have a choice and there is nothing wrong with getting either one. i wouldn't mind driving either if i didn't have a choice, but personally i enjoy driving a manual transmission more. i've had automatic cars and i've had manual cars, and i just enjoy manuals so much more. speed isn't the issue. it's just fun for me. engine braking, choosing when the gears shift, and having something to do other than hold the wheel straight are some reasons why i like manual. but there are plenty of reasons to love auto as well.

couldn't have said it better myself. :D

manual is awesome..especially for that extra push... however when it comes to convenience like holding hands with ur girl while cruising ..auto is more than a convenience, not to mention eating ur hamburger with one hand and holding a drink in the other. .

You mean you haven't mastered the art of shifting while holding hands with your girl?

It requires some cooperation on her part so if she's willing to hold your hand thru the gears, you've got a keeper

Manual, I eventually want to turbo this thing, and I think the manual should hold up a little better under more power than an auto. And I love rowing through gears . :D

Manual. I take delivery in about a week! :lol:

My mom taught me to drive on her 1980 Fiat Strada 5-speed. After I mastered that, my parents let me drive their 1974 VW camper bus. They should bring that back. Oh wait! I think VW is bringing it back in the form of the Microbus. Supposedly, it's going to start in the mid $30Ks. So much for VW being the "people's wagon."

I started to learn how to shift a manual transmission today. I tried it on my friend's 2002 Toyota Celica GTS (about 180hp). Shifting is easy, but the hard part is getting the car moving in the first place. I stalled my friend's Accent on the way home...sigh... practice makes perfect, I guess...I might just go automatic just because it's less of a hassle, though.. hrmmm...

I'll have nothing but a manual PW xB. 8) It's ordered and the wait is killing me.

Just ordered my Manual Xb! :D

5 speed, I called about 10 dealers throughtout southern ca because no one had 5 speed XBs they all had automatics, a salesman told me that scion only made about 2 percent stick. I'm loving it. pics coming soon!

Give me convienence or give me death !
Here Here!!! :o

Dealer made it hard for me, I wanted a manual but they put free remote start on all the automatics so I switched to auto.

I have an manual xA..wait, this is the xB forum.. No one talks in the xA forums... :cry:

MERGE _____es! :twisted:

xB with the manual.

autos are for highschools who think they're the shiznit driving a soapbox. but then again, you m/t xb's dont justify anything either.

Manual XB

I just ordered a Blue xB with a manual transmission. I test drove one and loved it.

I needed the upgrade so I got an auto. I dont miss shifting and sticking in the clutch 300 more times a day actually i think it will save wear and tear on my ankle down the rode.

I drove a 3.0 V6 manual tranny for years so driving the Xb manual just really made the power difference obvious to me, so I opted for the automatic. I test drove both and didn't feel much difference. Plus I spend a good amount of time in DC gridlock. 8)

I drove both the automatic and the 5-spd.

I felt the Auto, with its electronic tuning, had more pep off the mark.

The lower gears of the Xb 5 spd had to be rev'd reaaly high to get the kind of acceleration I enjoy from my Honda CRX.

I addition, with 1.5 under the hood, I was not about to sink gobs of $$$ into this thing to bring it up to performance level.

At 36 years old, and 20 years of driving,---driving with one knee on the steering wheel, one on the shift, one on my coffee and one on my boyfriend's lap, I was ready to get an automatic.

Although it WAS tempting in my RS1, I went with the automatic and that's why!

regards,
levatino

Definately got a manual, who wouldn't want more control of their car!

:roll: manual but you definately need to add some horsepower to that bad boy or release a turbo or supercharger kit for the xB.

I got a manual. I love it. It's the coolest car in the whole world! :D

I absolutely got the manual.

I don't buy automatics.

I don't even want to drive YOUR automatic. Not for 5 minutes.

Personally I think it is insane to even offer an auto trans paired to a teeny tiny 1.5 liter engine much less actually choose that option.

A car like this needs a manual for acceptable performance, but some people don't want to shift. I think the best solution would be to offer a CVT. That way you would have none of the drivetrain losses. It would be just as powerful as the manual, you would get the same (or better) fuel mileage as the manual and you don't have to shift. They are also really smooth and keep the RPMs in exactly the right place all the time for however you are driving--- ideal for this car. The only issue again, is cost. :(

I'm still undecided, I could do both no problem, but maybe, since this is gonna be a cruzer, and haul me, the wife, and little girl around, an auto would be better. And, for those saying that autos aren't good perf. vehicles with turbo's, I'll have to disagree, as the GMC Syclone I recently sold (auto trans, turbo, awd) did perfectly fine.

Another thought though, for you manual peeps..wonder if the bolt pattern from the Celica GT 6-spd is the same..that would be a nice upgrade...one more gear...just a though.

I'm getting alot of good input form this thread that will more than likely help me alot in my decision.

If I do choose an auto (a sin in some of you guys/gal eyes)..is there ANYONE who makes a cooler shifter handle than the stock one...

Matt B

Manual! Makes driving more enjoyable(usually). :wink:

I got an automatic transmission and it does seem to drag at times, but I don't know how to drive a manual.

manual Xb....drove both, and the Xb definately felt better with the 5 spd

Had to go with an auto. Would have preferred a manual considering the 1500 engine. But my wife has only driven with an auto and there is a lot of stop and go driving here in NJ.

That being said, we've been pleasantly surprised at how smooth and lively our xB drives with the auto transmission. Even the downshifts while going up steep hills are barely noticeable (note we have less than 500 miles and this was with only two in the car). Yes it is a little noisy when accelerating hard due to the high rpms. But this is not unbearable and a tradeoff we can live with considering the great gas mileage.

Don't think I've had as much fun driving a car since my teenage years with a VW bug. Yes it had a manual transmission. But it required this because it only had a 1200 cc engine and probably generated less than 50 hps. Normal mode of driving was to depress the throttle right down to the floor (aka pedal to the metal). But with the bug, you felt you were a driver (as opposed to being driven) and the car became a part of you. My early impression is that this xB also generates these feelings. 8)

i got manual.. its much more fun to drive unless your looking for a ride to take you from point a to point b

manual bB all the way babie! :shock:

Go Karts Rock !

Woo hoo! :mrgreen:

autos are for grannies and mommies. they have there place, but they just rob too much horsepower. STICK! :twisted:

stick 8)

manual for me - keeps me awake

I ordered an xA with a manual.

I really can't stand automatics, I don't like the lack of control.
However, I test drove the xA with an automatic as well, and I thought that for an auto it shifted very nicely. not for me though.....

Plus I want that extra bling on the shift knob. :P

OH! I just remembered, I pick up my xA in just 14 hours! Yippie!

i wasn't in time for the voting, but count me in manual.

stick

Manual with a long throw!! :lol: :lol:

Manual.

Driving an automatic feels like driving a golf cart.

HAD TO GO W/AUTOMATIC :)

I had to go with the auto. Not by choice. but since the wife can't drive manual, you can figure it out from there.

Automatic Lava :lol:

Manual xA.

Never had much of a problem in bad freeway traffic. If you're in 1st or 2nd gear, you can just let up on the gas and the car will slow down immediately. If you had an auto, you'd have to hit the brake to slow, then gas & brake & gas. The manual is more responsive in that kind of traffic.

When fully stopped, I also like to take my foot off the brake - relaxing. On an auto, you have to keep your foot on the brake, and hold it there, or the car will move forward.

3rd gear is also good because of VVT-i giving good low-end torque. You can slow down quite a lot (braking) and still be able to go without downshifting. (If in 4th or 5th though, you should downshift :D but that's just fun!)

But my favorite is downshifting to 2nd gear every time I have to hit the brake - for a red light, or for a turn. I try anyway :shock: 8) .

Had to be a manual :!:

Ours is an automatic my other vehicle is a 5 speed so since i work like 45 miles from home thru heavy traffic automatic is easier on my left leg. :D

I am planning to buy the xB. I had planned to buy the manual trans. until I looked at the gear ratios.

Auto: 1 - 2.85, 2 - 1.55, 3 - 1.0, 4 - .70
Man. : 1 - 3.55, 2 - 1.90, 3 - 1.31, 4 - .97, 5 - .82

In some reviews I have read that the manual transmission has high rpms and is loud when going highway speeds. The numbers show that the automatic would allow the engine to spin more slowly at highway speeds. I would like zippy around town performance, but would trade this for a better road trip car.

Any thoughts by current owners? I wish they would have made the manual overdrive a lower ratio.

I am planning to buy the xB. I had planned to buy the manual trans. until I looked at the gear ratios.

Auto: 1 - 2.85, 2 - 1.55, 3 - 1.0, 4 - .70
Man. : 1 - 3.55, 2 - 1.90, 3 - 1.31, 4 - .97, 5 - .82

The numbers show that the automatic would allow the engine to spin more slowly at highway speeds. I would like zippy around town performance, but would trade this for a better road trip car.

Any thoughts by current owners? I wish they would have made the manual overdrive a lower ratio.

I have an xA with automatic and it is much better than I expected. Here are my observed rpm numbers:

60mph = 2400rpm
70mph = 2900rpm
80mph = 3400rmp

The automatic is very well matched to the engine output and you won't find your self lugging around waiting for the car to catch up with the pedal. This is my commute car and it sees a lot of stop-and-go, so I am very pleased that the automatic is better than most.

you know i was wondering about the shift points on my new xB manual.
i am used to lower rpm trannies, so shifting above 3k came as a surprise. i assume this is operating as designed?
i will say a 6th gear for highway driving would be kind of nice. 4k at 80 seems a bit excessive to me, but as i said, i may just not be used to the toyota engineering. i've driven auto's for the last 6 years, so i'm sure i've grown out of touch with the current designs:p

i will say that i love my 5 speed zipping around town. much more fun:)

manual

manual 5-spd
How do you vote?

i got an automatic...................

2 months ago my parents agreed to buy me the xb of my choice so i was leaning toward an all white 5-speed until i heard about the rs 1.0 and the dealership told me they would supply one to me in 5-speed in 3 days so they had one located supposedly the way i wanted it and we show up at the dealership and low and behold there is the hot lava box me and my dad went and looked at it the first thing i noticed the plain looking gear selector which i hated and i was upset but i didnt want to seem ungrateful so they bought it now i cant stop thinking about what if i had a manual but i'm stuck with the auto its not that bad but its not really what i wanted. so for now its the auto. :?

Got the manual. Never owned an auto. I like to feel like I've got control over the vehicle, especially when driving fast and cornering hard. The 5 speed could use an improved shifter but it's fine for me since I never really get in full-race mode these days. :lol:

NISSAN_shift... my own damn gears! :wink:
I only drive manuals..... can't deal with autos.... too boring for me.... need to have the control.... plus saves me on brake pads.... Downshift yo!!

-Alex B.

Automatic. I have arthritis in both feet. Sometimes it seems like only one foot will work well enough to be comfortable. Otherwise I would stick with manual. When I go around a curve or drive on ice & snow I like to have control of gear shifts. I gave up my 1991 Geo Metro one litre manual for an auto 2005 xA. Not a good exchange. The Metro got almost 60 MPG.

manual trans

I got the Auto and I will challenge EVERY one of you stick drivers to beat me into the City. If the Auto seemed gutless, you just weren't pushing the gas pedal hard enough. The reason I got the Auto was because of the way it is laid out with each gear separate. You don't HAVE to leave it on D. First turn off the O/D, 321. When I want to down-shift I do, when I want to hold the revs up I can. And I never get clutch foot. Try sitting in your car and just push your clutch in and hold it for 1 minute, let it out for 20 seconds, push in for 30 seconds, let it out for 10 seconds. Now hold it down for 90 seconds. REPEAT for a 10 to 20 minute period. That will simulate the Tollgate backup at the Bay Bridge. Tell me how the sole of your foot feels. Feel that pedal callous? Not on my left foot.

I too, drove in DC beltway traffic with a manual transmission for 5-6 years. It never phased me, but everyone's different. I suppose its a little less complicated to stop-and-go with an automatic, but I don't spend most of my time driving in bumper-to-bumper crawling traffic. It would take some extreme circumstances for me to choose an auto tranny. I just find driving them so much less engaging. I quickly get bored, even in a very very nice automatic car. On the other hand, you give me a little econobox with a manual and I can play race car driver.

Add a manual transmission and you can make almost ANY car at least a little fun to drive.

Add an automatic to anything and you remove any pretense of sporty driving. Slapping the automatic gear lever around is a poor substitute and its not even intended for that purpose. Its not a tiptronic, guys.

FYI, the manual xB got a 8.99 sec 0-60 vs. 10.8 sec for the automatic in Edmunds test drive.

automatic

Automatic Transmision :lol:

Automatic because I need a free hand to eat my burger, drink my soda, talk on the cellphone, play with the stereo, scratch my balls, give the finger to whoever cuts me off, etc

auto... easier to drive in traffic

Automatic.................since it is only used in city traffic mostly. I've driven the 5 sp. It was only slighly more entertaining too drive to me. As far as being more perforamnce oriented, come on thats not what these things are about. My beat up 34 year old farm truck is faster.

5 -spd manual. I like to control.

I went automatic. I thought about a manual but then I decided I would just be cruising and not trying to go fast or anything of that sort so I decided the auto would work just fine for me.

manual xB

I got my 05' BOP with manual trans in september and love it!

I got an auto against my better judgement. This is my first auto and only got it b/c they had no manuals, and said it was a 2 month waiting period. I didn't want to wait.

manual!

auto. i'm in outside sales, and the last thing i want to be doing is rowing through the trans.!

my '05 xB has a manual transmission.
I had the opportunity to test-drive both the auto and manual and I could feel a significant difference in performance. Both types are as easy for me to drive with so I really had no preference... though I heartily understand why someone who deals with stop-n-go traffic daily would opt for the auto.

After a while you can get just as coordinated eating a cheeseburger with a 5-spd as with an auto. ;)

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Reminds me of when I bought my first 5-spd. I was 25 and never drove a stick before, but wanted a Suzuki Samurai so bad... and it was ONLY available with a 5-spd. So without test driving it, I bought it and had to have my Dad drive it home for me. That night I took it out on the back roads and after stalling 2 or 3 times, I finally got the hang of it. (I found it helpful that I used to ride a dirtbike as a kid)

Went with the Auto since it's my daily driver :)

My last car was an Echo with an automatic so I had a pretty good idea what an xB with auto would be like. The Echo was mighty poky accelerating onto the freeway and passing and such, so I got a manual.

And besides, manuals are a lot more fun to drive :)

We used to be manual transmission all the way. Even bought one of the few manual transmission minivans. However, at age 49, our knees already lack the perfection of youth, so we went with auto.

HEY HEY , I GOT THE AUTOMATIC, TOO MUCH COMMUTE TRAFFIC DOWN 580 INTO OAKLAND FROM TRACY. IF I HAVE TO BE SHIFTING, I HAVE AN NSX FOR THAT...

Got the automatic. Just for ease of driving.

Automatic. I'm 62 and probably couldn'r drive a stick anumore!! (not really) (but I am 62)

Walt

auto

Manual........

all my vehicles are manual..... 3 bikes, xB, and a pickup......

I don't know what I'd do in an auto............

For most of the 28 cars I've owned I've bought manual, but after a leg injury I can no longer trust my left leg to properly control a clutch, so I went automatic on my lil' white box.

i got the automatic one because i wanted my wife to be able to drive it as well. and boy does she :rofl:

manual

HEY HEY , I GOT THE AUTOMATIC, TOO MUCH COMMUTE TRAFFIC DOWN 580 INTO OAKLAND FROM TRACY. IF I HAVE TO BE SHIFTING, I HAVE AN NSX FOR THAT...

:bow: :bow: :bow:

maual all the way man...its just funner to drive.

autoMATIC

Out of the 15 cars I have owned in 23 years, 12 have been 5-speeds, 3 were auto's. Struggled with the decision on the XB,,,really struggled. But since I still own a 5 speed 81' Rabbit Diesel, 4 -speed 79' Beetle Convertible and about to inherit a 4-speed 74' Custom VW Bus, I wanted the best of both worlds and went...

Automatique'''' as they say in the old world.

Not as fun as the 5-speed I am sure, but really and truly fun for an automatic and no power problems doing what I want it to do. And what a damn fine "relaxed" highway cruiser it is!

That was the clincher for me being the highway performance, I have owned "wound out , high rpm on the highway" cars before and they do tire me out after a couple of hours. I take a lot of 12-16 hour road trips, so it became clear to me after numerous test drives in both auto and manual. And like I said, I have both types at my disposal, so when I wanna shift, I go shift. When I wanna relax/cruise, I go cruise.

Peace.

Automatic

Drove both and my husband and I thought the auto was peppier. The manual had the shortest 1st and 2nd I've ever driven. I couldn't even get to the other side of an intersection without shifting 3 times. Oh and that little overdrive button works wonders when you hit it is is like downshifting, HOLD ON!! Also, I'm sick of sitting in traffic shift, shift shift, no rolling hills and curves in Florida!

automatic

5 speed or a " me do the work- transmission

Will pick up my '05 ThunderClound Manny on the 16th of Feb !!

Only options I got are
Fog Lights
Spoiler
Billet Grille
Bazooka Subwoofer.

Rest I'll do myself

manual, but stay away from the OBD gear shifter...

I'll drive a stick until my joints wear out; or until I'm rich enough to be chauffered. Lucky for me I know a good surgeon..............

El Manuel for me

Auto of course!!!http://adwoff.com/ubb/graemlins/einstein.gif

stick is it.

I went with the manual due to the road feel and better passing control. It gives you the illusion that you have more control over the car.

Automatic

Drove both and my husband and I thought the auto was peppier. The manual had the shortest 1st and 2nd I've ever driven. I couldn't even get to the other side of an intersection without shifting 3 times. Oh and that little overdrive button works wonders when you hit it is is like downshifting, HOLD ON!! Also, I'm sick of sitting in traffic shift, shift shift, no rolling hills and curves in Florida!

Very true. Whenever I'm following manual xBs, I have to let off the gas while they're shifting 1-2. I really need to run someone off the line a little to see for sure...

Automatic

Drove both and my husband and I thought the auto was peppier. The manual had the shortest 1st and 2nd I've ever driven. I couldn't even get to the other side of an intersection without shifting 3 times. Oh and that little overdrive button works wonders when you hit it is is like downshifting, HOLD ON!! Also, I'm sick of sitting in traffic shift, shift shift, no rolling hills and curves in Florida!

Very true. Whenever I'm following manual xBs, I have to let off the gas while they're shifting 1-2. I really need to run someone off the line a little to see for sure...

Or you could just refer to one of the several professional road tests done by reputable car magazines.

Edmunds got an 8.99 sec 0-60 with the manual xB and every test of an automatic I have seen has been over 10 seconds.

In the history of cars, the number of models that were faster with the same engine and an automatic vs. a manual can be counted on one hand. The only one I can think of is the Audi A4, and that is with a CVT vs. a manual and a CVT is nothing like a conventional automatic.

When you pass power through an automatic and a torque converter etc, you get less power to the ground, period.

Automatic

Drove both and my husband and I thought the auto was peppier. The manual had the shortest 1st and 2nd I've ever driven. I couldn't even get to the other side of an intersection without shifting 3 times. Oh and that little overdrive button works wonders when you hit it is is like downshifting, HOLD ON!! Also, I'm sick of sitting in traffic shift, shift shift, no rolling hills and curves in Florida!

Very true. Whenever I'm following manual xBs, I have to let off the gas while they're shifting 1-2. I really need to run someone off the line a little to see for sure...

Or you could just refer to one of the several professional road tests done by reputable car magazines.

Edmunds got an 8.99 sec 0-60 with the manual xB and every test of an automatic I have seen has been over 10 seconds.

In the history of cars, the number of models that were faster with the same engine and an automatic vs. a manual can be counted on one hand. The only one I can think of is the Audi A4, and that is with a CVT vs. a manual and a CVT is nothing like a conventional automatic.

When you pass power through an automatic and a torque converter etc, you get less power to the ground, period.

Well, first of all, Mine's different than the ones they tested, so are the ones I am referring to following, etc. Secondly, I'm not talking about the same pro driver in two factory-provided stock units, but me, the owner and person responsible for mishaps vs, another person in the same boat . Thirdly, That only tells me the results of 0-60. What about 0-30? 0-40? slow roll to 50? 0 to the end of the straight stretch? Where my cars at when it shifts from 1st to 2nd to 3rd compared to where the stick is shifting? Just because the stick was a second faster at the end doesn't mean the auto was a second behind the whole way...

i think the manual is a way better pick becuase the car has such low HP you can run higher rpms so its not quite as slow. and for saying the auto us a cruiser....you can get cruise control for the manual. however in stop and go traffic, like any manual, it sucks.

Fact: Traditional hydraulic automatic transmissions incur more parasitc drivetrain losses than manual transmissions.

Fact: The professionals driving both auto and manual versions of virtually every single car review get faster times with the manual.

Could an inexperienced stick driver lag behind an automatic? Sure, but all things being equal, manual transmissions get more power to the ground and that really counts when you have a 1.5 liter engine.

I can see definite advantages to having an automatic, if I wanted one I think I would prefer a CVT or SMG type deal. Many of the newer electronic autos are pretty good at not leaving you in too high a gear and hunting gears on hills, so that negates a part of what makes them unappealing to some people.

i like manual because not only can you pimp ride your car, since it is a pimp ride and not a speed demon. you can have nice pleasures with woman allso when you drive(hahahaha)

automatic because i will be sharing the xB with my mom and i dont know how to drive stick...

auto cause i would be too hard on a manual tran.

Funny, my dealership said that only 15% of the Scion made
are Manual Trans, but 60% of the users here voted manual.

I wonder if it's more of a case of "Enthusiasts Choose Stick"

Funny, my dealership said that only 15% of the Scion made
are Manual Trans, but 60% of the users here voted manual.

I wonder if it's more of a case of "Enthusiasts Choose Stick"

Could be.

Automatics are great for delivery trucks, buses and Buick highway cruisers, but you remove any pretense of sporty driving when you opt for the automatic...and you cant fix that by shifting your automatic like a ricer driving his mom's Civic. :ttth:

Automatics are great for delivery trucks, buses and Buick highway cruisers, but you remove any pretense of sporty driving when you opt for the automatic...and you cant fix that by shifting your automatic like a ricer driving his mom's Civic. :ttth:

:blah: :blah: :blah:

The truth hurts, eh? LOL

Nope, just tired of hearing the same insecurities. A skilled driver can drive either, someday, maybe you'll learn that...

Nope, just tired of hearing the same insecurities. A skilled driver can drive either, someday, maybe you'll learn that...

Anyone can drive an automatic, skilled drivers included, I agree.

It's just that serious drivers choose manual transmissions because they like the control. Most people are more casual and prefer the convenience of an automatic though, at least in this country.

When I can finally buy an xB, I'll be getting an automatic because driving a manual in Los Angeles, CA just plain SUCKS

It's stop and go traffic all day :flame:

Besides, I love to cruise 8)

Hey,I love my auto. It's nice to have an auto after the last 6 vehicles owned had a manual. As far as sporty driving is concerened it depends on what type of sporty driving. In autocrossing the auto would have the edge because you could stick it in 1st and forget it whereas the manual you would be constantly hunting for the proper gear. It is a nice change not having to constantly row gears though.
I also love the fact that while cruising at higher speeds the engine is not turning such high RPMS

manual. its ordered at least......

In autocrossing the auto would have the edge because you could stick it in 1st and forget it whereas the manual you would be constantly hunting for the proper gear

That doesn't sound right to me at all, but whatever works for you. :eyebrow:

Manual. Just bought/ picked it up this week. It's growing on me.
When shopping for a new vehicle, and decided on the xB I 'swore' I had no interest in mods whatsoever, but within a day I was wondering how to shade the taillights and darken the window tints.

automatic

Automatic... Wanted manual but my girlfriend doesn't drive stick, and she'll probably be driving as much as I do.

A Manual, Lewis

Nilus

I prefer an automatic b/c I'm usually multitasking...i.e. eating, dialing, channeling, and/or reaching around. I have an automatic.

I did drive both an automatic and a stick to see what I
thought, and honestly, I couldn't stand the auto. After driving
the stick that was it for me.

Besides I don't "hunt" for gears, I instinctively know where
to go most of the time.

This is the first car I learned to drive MT in. What a forgiving clutch! I tried to learn on a friend's Audi, man that sucked...

Now that I've tried both, MT for me all the way! It's just more fun to drive, but it's hard to put down a sourdough jack while driving around town.

I would have loved a MT, but I'm teaching my wife to drive on this thing and it HAD to be a AT.... I already tried teaching her on my Hyundai Accent MT and it was pretty scary! After all these years with the stick though, I'm actually starting to like the AT and the relaxation that comes with it.

Besides I don't "hunt" for gears, I instinctively know where
to go most of the time.

Precisely. And every automatic I've driven has multiple personalities and isn't quite sure WTF to do, especially going up and down hills. The best I've ever experienced is the Honda automatic on the CR-V with grade logic. It knows to downshift on long downhills and not to go into overdrive on uphills, but it's still FAR from perfect and gives you zero control, just like the rest of them.

Went w/ what the dealer had. Lucky for us it was a M/T. My next Scion will be an A/T...my box is my 6th car in a row w/ a M/T. :yawn:

You're yawning about a manual?

As if driving an automatic was more interesting?

Never heard that perspective before.

I'm ready for a boring A/T after driving M/T for so long...is what i meant.

Ah, I got ya.

<--A/T...Wifes Xb is M/T.

Automatic is the way to go. :P

Manual :clap:

Auto was the best choice for me for Southern California traffic... :tap:

...and it's not like I was looking for performance out of a 108 HP Toyota built on the Echo platform :rofl:

I should be getting my Xb soon, although I'm still caught up between buying it in 5sp or auto. 75% of me is saying to get the 5sp, 25% the auto. As of now my Scion rep has located a manual TCM for me(all he has is auto cars in stock) that I can have immediately, but my heart is set on the RS 2.0, if it's acquirable. Also, my first time driving it was an automatic car that I did get to drive for a little while, my initial impressions were driving locally, the automatic is fine. On the highway, it really feels like it runs out of breath quickly and realy needs to push to get up there. I know it doesn't have so much to do with the tranny as it does to the power of the car, but I figured the manual will at least "feel" more powerful. I'd also be driving it anticipating stop and go traffic, which is notorious on the highway that I take to get to work. I dono man, I'm still set on 5 sp, but there's still that chance of the last second switch..
Ed :)

If you are even a *slightly* aggressive driver or you are the type of person who will take your car out for a drive *just* because you love to drive it, then I think you need to get the manual.

If you're more of a point "A" to point "B" kind of person and dread the idea of having to shift in traffic, then maybe an automatic could be what you're looking for.

I would definitely take the manual for an extended test drive before deciding on an automatic, if you think you're about to go that way.

Let us know what you do and post some pics of your cool new ride!

take it out on a winding road course and really drive it before you decide

wow 7777 views...
oops I just ruined it

sorry should contribute...
but like ppl have said...
I view the xB as a practical car... not a sporty one ...
so auto is fine... its a people lugger...
If I want something sporty I might go with the xA or tC.

That said auto tranny needs some serious help... so the little power mods add up and hopefully bring it on par with a manual.

Yeah grade logic would've been nice... but I don't find it so hard to pop the O/D button on or off...

We've got Grade Logic and it works very well, IMO.

Got the man!

Hi,

My xB has the 5 speed, and while it is fun to drive, it REALLY needs a 6th gear/OD to bring the 65+ mph revs down. I know this is on another topic thread, but I can't remember where I saw it last week when I found this site.

Short of that, for maximum gas mileage, I would think a taller tire (don't go shootin me) within the physical limits of the vehicle height etc would go part way towards that goal. I think the xB should be able to see close to 40 mpg highway with a more firendly final gear in the tranny.

Point being that typically gas MPG for manuals that I have ever seen are several mps higher than an automatic tranny. Maybe that has changed of late with more automatic tranny science.

But this little engine with the right gearing should get 5 mpg better when highway revs are more like 2600 +/- instead of current 3500+

Now granted the real reason is probably the lawyers said some jerks will end up implanting themselves into a tree cause the engine winds out so nicely and that .6 (as quoted from that other tranny gear ration thread I referenced) would increase the top end speed much higher than they want to deal with; air resistance etc not being addressed here 8-) .


Dave

Automatic

Hi,

My xB has the 5 speed, and while it is fun to drive, it REALLY needs a 6th gear/OD to bring the 65+ mph revs down. I know this is on another topic thread, but I can't remember where I saw it last week when I found this site.


Dave

I just don't get why manufacturers do this...? maybe they're afraid the xB will do absolutely nothing if you step on the gas pedal when cruising at 65mph in a taller 5th or new 6th gear.

believe it or not I only had one choice and that was auto. I'm freakin 21 years old and I don't know how to drive stick.. My dad says only a man should learn how to drive a stick women don't know anything about cars..... :no: I love cars tho..it's what I grew up around...old muscle cars and imports. but I'm still learnin'.. hopefully I learn some useful stuff on these boards about my B.

Hi,

My xB has the 5 speed, and while it is fun to drive, it REALLY needs a 6th gear/OD to bring the 65+ mph revs down. I know this is on another topic thread, but I can't remember where I saw it last week when I found this site.


Dave

I just don't get why manufacturers do this...? maybe they're afraid the xB will do absolutely nothing if you step on the gas pedal when cruising at 65mph in a taller 5th or new 6th gear.

Simple, V8's have the low end torque and power to run at 2500RPM at 75-80 mph.

Teeny tiny 1.5 liters don't

You might notice that every car with an engine this small and a similar power-to-weight ratio roars along at a pretty high RPM on the highway. It's a necessary evil. Just look at the powerband of the car and see how much torque and horsepower is available at 2000-2500 RPM and you'll quickly realize why this ain't gonna happen.

I got used to it pretty quickly, most of us do.

That said, if it really makes you crazy, there is an option. You could swap in the final drive gearing from a Toyota Echo. I beleive it's about 3.90:1 vs. 4.30:1 for the xB. That would drop you a good 3-500 RPM at speed. Of course regular xB's and xA's will be kicking your a$$ in acceleration, but you will probably get better mileage.

believe it or not I only had one choice and that was auto. I'm freakin 21 years old and I don't know how to drive stick.. My dad says only a man should learn how to drive a stick women don't know anything about cars..... :no: I love cars tho..it's what I grew up around...old muscle cars and imports. but I'm still learnin'.. hopefully I learn some useful stuff on these boards about my B.

Wow.. your dad is pretty misogy... um... old fashioned huh?

Well as long as you enjoy your xA, that's what's important!

oh yeah just a little bit...but hey I guess the old fashioned ones are obviously getting weeded out or we wouldnt' have our B's

Hi,

My xB has the 5 speed, and while it is fun to drive, it REALLY needs a 6th gear/OD to bring the 65+ mph revs down. I know this is on another topic thread, but I can't remember where I saw it last week when I found this site.


Dave

I just don't get why manufacturers do this...? maybe they're afraid the xB will do absolutely nothing if you step on the gas pedal when cruising at 65mph in a taller 5th or new 6th gear.

IMO, the reason for it is that this car and the powertrain were designed for the AUTOMATIC. At normal freeway speeds, the auto is just cruising along. There was no stick option on the bB. When I bought my Echo, when they first came out, you couldn't get it in a stick. I think they tried to gear it differently than the Echo to give it more pep around town and at lower speeds, but I think they had to guesstimate on the right gearing. It's not easy to cover every point on the speedo, so they gotta pick the spots where it seems the most important. Even at the RPMs it's turning at freeway speeds in the stick, it's still being efficient and that's it's main objective. I don't think a 6th gear would help much. It wouldn't have hardly any pull, you'd constantly be pulling out of it to accel.

And yes, they are afraid there won't be any punch and people will complain about that as well. You can't please everyone...

Auto tranny = TRUE JDM style

We just took delivery of a Thundercloud with Auto. Shame we couldn't get side air bags as well... :doh:

I'd never get an automatic anything, but it'll be something both my wife and I drive. :(

God I hate automatics.

auto

My wife and I were initially stuck on getting an automatic, but after driving the manual, it just seemed that the manual added more "fun factor". Most pros who have road tested the xB say you utilize the power range of the 108 horsies better with the manual. We're lovin' it!

Auto, tired of driving a stick

auto -- wifes car -- it's still fun to drive tho

Stick.... 5 spd

auto

I got a stick...and I use it 5-6 days a week delivering pizzas,all stop and go,and wouldnt change it. I do have an auto "backup" car but after about 10 minutes in that thing I'm bored. I guess I could be like most of you people who picked autos on here,talk on my phone,eat,fondle my girl...etc. but that defeats the whole purpose of driving,actually paying attention to the road. People who pick an auto so they can "multi-task" shouldn't be allowed to drive in the first place. :come:

automatic:::my ex and my lil brother tried teaching me manual......but i dont see them enough to do it....

anyone willing to let a girl mess with your transmission? :P

and uh, how do u vote on this thing? or is the voting over already?

Manual is definately the way to go. My S-10 has a B&M short shift kit in it, can't wait to get a kit for my xB.

i suggest the TRD sport shift. the price and the ease of installation ( 20 Minutes or less) and its worth it. it comes with a nice TRD ball shift knob too

auto

bought an auto cuz of my commute,but wish I got a manual

i got a manual. . . auto's just dont feel right. I like having more driver imput, even if it is for only a short time changin gears.

I got the 5-speed. I like to drive when I drive.

Automatic!

I just picked mine up manual the only way to drive. :love:

AUTOMATIC YELLOW xB AND LOVE IT

manual

I'm going to get a manual.

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I dont think I can ever drive automatics anymore... Give me a manual transmission anyday.

Automatic... had to my wife cannot drive manual i tried in my civic man she scared me ...

manual , and loving it.. :bow:

/\/\ Agreed! i got a manual as well, and LOVE IT!

My previous car was a 5-speed as well, but the xB is soooo much easier to drive

stick all day