View Full Version : Steering Wheel Controls w/ Aftermarket HU
Tcjake 01-07-2006, 11:02 PM I have an Eclipse single DIN HU (cd8445) installed and I'm using the steering wheel controls straight out of the box with NO ADAPTOR.
I know that the single DIN 8Volt HU's (2005) models's have this function along with the double DIN's.
I'm not certain about the 5Volt models but you can verify by consulting your manual. In the back where it shows the various connection diagrams. IF YOU HAVE 2 BROWN WIRES ( one solid and one with a black stripe ) IT WILL INDICATE IN THE DAIGRAM THESE ARE FOR REMOTE STEERING CONTROLS.
If you in fact have these two wires, here's all you have to do to enable your steering wheel audio controls.
There are 3 plugs in back of the factory radio, 2 of which connect to the aftermarket harness. The third is the factory harness for the steering wheel controls. There are several different wires in this harness but only 3 are of concern.
The ORANGE wire is ground. I used a T-Tap quick connect and ran a short piece of speaker wire. I tapped into the orange wire and connected it to the ground connection for the HU.
Next up is the PINK wire. This one get's the BROWN/BLACK wire. Again, I used a T-Tap to tap the pink wire and put a male insulated spade connector on the Brn/Blk wire to make the connection.
The last wire is GREEN, connect the BROWN wire using the same technique as above.
When you power on the HU the steering wheel buttons will funtion just as they did with the factory radio. Volume, Channel/Track and Mode. They will also illuminate.
On the channel/track button i found if you have station presets saved, if you press the button once is will tune to the next channel. If you hold either up or down button for a second it will beep and go to the next saved station in either direction.
UPDATE!!!!
At least for my HU, the AVN-5435, the Steering wheel interface DOES directly plug in using a harness that comes with the HU.
Page one has inventory of what all comes in the box includes a reference to a Harness for Video/Audio In and Steering Controls. I dug in the box further and found it. The AV inputs and the steering wheel control harness. I took it outside, went to try it out and it plugs directly to the HU in the 2nd connector from the right (while looking directly at the back of the HU) and it also accepts the Steering control connector directly. I hooked everything up, tested out my Controls, and BAM! Works like a champ.
gjpjr84 01-08-2006, 06:19 AM finally! I hope this ends all of the confusion!
PrivateTucker 01-08-2006, 05:59 PM Just an FYI- the UPDATE on the AVN-5435 was from me. WDS merged it into this so we'd have an end all be all of SWC confusion like gjpjr84 said. If you don't have the harness like I found, then you now know how to manually hook it up and its all in one thread.
And gjpjr84, I never noticed until now that the clown moves. I almost punched my screen when I saw it. 8)
WeDriveScions 01-09-2006, 04:37 AM The notorious "It" avatar.... Glad to see this on a sticky for guys to reference.
-WDS
jjos1 01-10-2006, 07:33 PM I'm sorry if this has been asked but will the stock aux input work also ?
This is the deck that I want http://www.eclipse-web.com/cd/cd8455.html
gjpjr84 01-10-2006, 11:35 PM The notorious "It" avatar.... Glad to see this on a sticky for guys to reference.
-WDS
your glad my avatar is on a sticky? :silly:
my avatar is so famous, im so proud of myself for thinking of and creating it. :rofl:
bear454 01-10-2006, 11:48 PM Should this be in tech?
TCINBLACK 01-14-2006, 03:57 PM Does the Older Eclipse 8443 have an input for factory steering controls or is it only 2005 models?
Tcjake 01-14-2006, 05:27 PM I'm not sure about the 8443. check the schematic in the back of the manual. If you have the two brown wires on the HU harness then yes, you can connect them and have functioning steering wheel controls.
NeveNelEstate 01-15-2006, 02:20 AM Anybody know how to hook up, or if you can hook up a Kenwood HU to work off the steering whhel controls? there is only one wire(lightblu/yellow "remote Control") wire coming off the HU?
boostedscion 01-20-2006, 06:08 AM Does anyone know if the AVN2454 will work?
Fugitsu Ten is a owned by Toyota so I guess it makes sense that the inputs would be the same.
gjpjr84 01-20-2006, 10:42 PM Does anyone know if the AVN2454 will work?
yea, all of the d2s should go in with no problems....
Mangus 01-24-2006, 01:24 AM Does anyone know if the AVN2454 will work?
yea, all of the d2s should go in with no problems....
Not necessarily. Here's a wiring diagram of the 2454:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26335&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0&sid=8b7b5ef3f5e3617189ffe39038a0cade
Note that it doesn't have the aforementioned brown wires. I've already asked Eclipse about this. Early 2454s will not work with the radio controls.
PlayinWithFire 02-04-2006, 02:32 AM does anyone know if the AVN 7000 will work? I just had it installed but its not hooked up... could this be done?
IaMVinhamese 02-04-2006, 03:33 AM Does anyone know if the AVN2454 will work?
yea, all of the d2s should go in with no problems....
Not necessarily. Here's a wiring diagram of the 2454:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26335&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0&sid=8b7b5ef3f5e3617189ffe39038a0cade
Note that it doesn't have the aforementioned brown wires. I've already asked Eclipse about this. Early 2454s will not work with the radio controls.
this might be a stupid question but does that mean the late 2454's should work?
is there a difference from the 2454 and the 5435? i like the way the 2454 looks but another few hundred and it will just get me the newer model
yellot00tr 02-06-2006, 02:30 AM the 5495 doesn't work with the steering wheel controls. i just bought one of the pac swix things.
gjpjr84 02-06-2006, 02:39 AM At least for my HU, the AVN-5435, the Steering wheel interface DOES directly plug in using a harness that comes with the HU.
Page one has inventory of what all comes in the box includes a reference to a Harness for Video/Audio In and Steering Controls. I dug in the box further and found it. The AV inputs and the steering wheel control harness. I took it outside, went to try it out and it plugs directly to the HU in the 2nd connector from the right (while looking directly at the back of the HU) and it also accepts the Steering control connector directly. I hooked everything up, tested out my Controls, and BAM! Works like a champ.
thats from the first post in this thread
OneLiterPeter 02-07-2006, 09:13 PM the 5495 doesn't work with the steering wheel controls. i just bought one of the pac swix things.
+1
Nothing on the AVN5495 is a direct plug-in with the exception of the antenna (2006 tC). You'll need to hardwire the unit into your existing harness. :doh:
gjpjr84 02-07-2006, 09:22 PM why would eclipse suddenly change up all of their connections?
OneLiterPeter 02-08-2006, 03:08 PM why would eclipse suddenly change up all of their connections?
No Idea... Could be that Toyota changed them in their higher end cars that would use a unit like the AVN5495.
gjpjr84 02-08-2006, 07:08 PM why would toyota suddenly change all of there connections then.......
bugless 02-11-2006, 01:20 AM Does anyone know where to download the updated steering wheel control software. Only the mode button is working for me and in the funtion options in my CD8445 there is a place where you can upload new SW control software from memory stick or CD. Can anyone help with this?
bug
Shorty 02-12-2006, 11:16 PM You DONT need to download any software for the CD8445. I have the CD 8445 in my tC just got it had it installed but they didnt connect the wiring for it because they didnt know. But if you read the FIRST POST ON HERE you should have no problems check your wiring again if you installed it yourself.
I connected the wiring myself after i read it and had alil problem with the T-taps they must be pressed really hard for the contacts! BY THE way if you just bought Your CD8445 you might want to upgrade with the NEWER model eclipse came out with CD5000 IM upgrading this week Reason for is because ITS IPOD READY with FULL CONTROL should ask The store where you bought it from if they have AN UPGRADE POLICY where i bought mine they have 60 day upgrade!!
BY THE WAY off the TOPIC anyONE know the TRUE SIZE and depth speakers FOR THE TC????
bugless 02-13-2006, 03:28 AM I installed the stereo myself, and soldered all connections, correctly. The mode button works, but others do not, so I thought maybe a software upgrade would work. Also, I have an xb, so I dont know if the behaviour is different as opposed to the tc. Also, I dont need the new CD5000 since I made a custom charging docking station for my nano in my ashtray. I found on the e-iserv.jp web site an unlinked page for the download of the new toyota.ssw software for the cd8445, but the file is missing. I was hoping someone on here had the toyota.ssw file available.
bug
Smoses799 02-14-2006, 01:30 AM i have a 8454 (i dont have a manual). What wires am i looking for? also if you could possibly provide pictures, that would help immensly. Thus far, ive found the pink, green, and orange (unless that is my ac wires :P) I cannot find any brown.
bugless 02-14-2006, 03:55 AM Smoses,
The brown wires should be on the harness attached to the Eclipse stereo, not in your toyota harness. Hope this helps.
bug
Smoses799 02-14-2006, 05:17 PM hmm dosent look like my 8454 has them
knight 02-15-2006, 09:56 PM Does the cd8445 have a color screen or is it black and white?
bugless 02-16-2006, 07:31 PM The CD8445 has a blueish white on black background VFD display. Its decent enough.
bug
knight 02-16-2006, 11:06 PM Thanks. I'm trying to decide between the cd8445 and the Alpine cda-9855 with the PAC SWI-ALP adaptor.
bugless 02-17-2006, 01:23 AM knight,
if it helps, the user interface on the eclipse is much easier than the alpine. It can be tricky to change some of the advanced settings on the alpine. Sound quality should be really similar on the two decks, but if you are running seperate amplifiers with the eclipse, make sure they can handle an 8 volt preamp signal, many can not.
bug
knight 02-17-2006, 03:47 AM bug,
Good info , thanks. Ive had an '03 Alpine before and liked the fact that you can search for the next music file as you are listening to the current file in mp3. I'll have to see if my fosgate amp can handle the 8v preout for the Eclipse.
DippinTc 02-21-2006, 07:35 AM i got the avn5435 for my 06 tc i was wondering if you guys know if where i can get a harness to fill in the gaps on the side, and is my ipod adapter just a plug and play or do i have to get an aftermarket adapter
kayeenxteen24 03-05-2006, 08:52 AM before i make my purchase on the avn5435, i was wondering if the cover will close or not??? my only concern is on having to do any kind of drilling since im not familiar with doing that kinda stuff.. :nails:
Shorty 03-05-2006, 09:33 AM ALL eclipse 05 model HU's will work with the sterring wheel controls.....I believe eclipse is owe by toyota dont quote me on that i heard that somewhere...but i know for sure they all work without an adapter.
and by the way the new models just came out this week and are available too awesome i just got my CD5000 and waiting for the ipod full control interface to come in and my component speakers and subs, amps :D ;)
knight 03-05-2006, 01:11 PM I beleive the company Fujitzu Ten (Eclipse) is owned by Toyota. I was wondering , does the avn5435 use a gps antenna with the navigation system? And how does the head unit mount in the space , do you need a install kit? Thanks
DanPorges 03-21-2006, 03:26 AM Anybody know how to hook up, or if you can hook up a Kenwood HU to work off the steering whhel controls? there is only one wire(lightblu/yellow "remote Control") wire coming off the HU?
That is not a steering wheel control wire, that is the wire that controls when an Amp attached to the system will turn its power on and off. I do not believe that Kenwood units have steering wheel control ability.
ack154 04-08-2006, 04:53 AM Added this to Tech rather than a sticky.
tikbhoy 04-15-2006, 05:04 PM just wanted to add, Look at #4 video input/steering wheel interconnect
http://www.myfruityimage.com/uploads/961454cd18.jpg
Jasonviper04 04-19-2006, 05:24 PM Ok i went to circuit city today and looked at the eclipse head units I like the 4000 and 5000 series but they told me that the steering wheel controls and aux port would not work with my 06 tC is this true???
binhbinh 04-21-2006, 08:08 AM knight,
if it helps, the user interface on the eclipse is much easier than the alpine. It can be tricky to change some of the advanced settings on the alpine. Sound quality should be really similar on the two decks, but if you are running seperate amplifiers with the eclipse, make sure they can handle an 8 volt preamp signal, many can not.
bug
how would you know if amps can't handle it?
tikbhoy 04-21-2006, 08:20 AM something to add when i emailed eclipse because i was looking to buy the harness seperate.
heres there reply
Thank you for contacting Eclipse:
You would need to contact PAC and use their product
Part # swi-x adapter
Tech support
:no: , an easy way out. stupid tech supports
azroadmonster 04-21-2006, 10:55 PM Call me crazy, but if Toyota owned Eclipse, wouldn't there be Eclipse HU's in Scion vehicles, and NOT Pioneer? Seems illogical.
pornstarmatt 04-21-2006, 11:52 PM Call me crazy, but if Toyota owned Eclipse, wouldn't there be Eclipse HU's in Scion vehicles, and NOT Pioneer? Seems illogical.
I have wondered the same thing. And the new special edition xb has Alpine stereo and speakers in it. What wrong with throwing in a Eclipse navi system instead of just an alpine dvd? I would for sure pay the extra for the special edition if it had eclipse navi. My dad has an eclipse double din nav in his Subaru and it's a very nice deck.
Matt
gjpjr84 04-23-2006, 03:07 AM honestly the reason i think is along the same lines as the reason that I myself didn't know about Eclipse until a few months after i got my car, but i did know about Pioneer and Alpine. and an eclipse would def be WAY too much for a factory HU
Garage1217 04-25-2006, 06:10 PM Thanks for the writeup!!!! Worked first time 100% on my cd7000. Did not have to program a thing!
Spect2K3 09-10-2006, 06:43 PM Nice writeup, this works for me perfectly!
Nick06tC 09-23-2006, 05:27 PM Nice write up. Marking this so I can use it if I get the one I want.
tagscook 02-26-2007, 06:13 PM Ok i went to circuit city today and looked at the eclipse head units I like the 4000 and 5000 series but they told me that the steering wheel controls and aux port would not work with my 06 tC is this true???
They told me the same thing....can someone confirm they have no clue what they are talking about (which I'm assuming they don't) before I buy...only thing holding me up is that I'll loose my steering wheel controls. If I won't then I'll buy it today.
Thanks guys!
Spect2K3 02-26-2007, 06:19 PM if its a double din unit with video, it has the sw control port right in the back. The single din like the cd3000 doens't have that port, it would need to be hard wired (still better than using a pac adapter). The double dins like avn units are perfectly compatable with the sw controls
tagscook 02-26-2007, 06:27 PM That's the one I wanted..the Eclipse AVN5500 Double din Navigation system. SWEET. good to know I won't loose my sw controls like previously told. Thanks so MUCH!!
Spect2K3 02-26-2007, 07:04 PM No problem. If I may add though, save some money and get the avn5435. The ONLY difference between the 5435 and the 5500 is that the 5500 comes with the newer nav disc. It'd probably be a lot cheaper to buy the 5435 and purchase the upgraded nav disc for the couple hundred it costs than buying the 5500 outright. Otherwise, save the extra couple hundred and deal with a 1year older nav disc (real big difference, lol)
tagscook 02-26-2007, 08:20 PM Awesome! I will check that one out ...thanks for advice, am always looking to save a few bucks...it will all end up in my car somewhere anyway though :P
Spect2K3 02-26-2007, 08:21 PM haha i hear ya!!!
gjpjr84 02-28-2007, 02:36 AM still nobody knowing if the scion ipod connector still works :ponder:
but when the new models come out we down here are gonna take the new HUs and test them out on the original cars. :pray:
aandf1978 02-28-2007, 03:18 PM Awesome! I will check that one out ...thanks for advice, am always looking to save a few bucks...it will all end up in my car somewhere anyway though :P
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=163172
Actually if you are looking at the AVN5435, here is a great deal on one. Great price and a great unit. Only difference between the AVN5435 and AVN5500 is the AVN5500 has a newer NAV DISC(BUT THE MDV-07D, NAV UPDATE from Eclipse will be released in the next couple weeks, which this model is covered on that update, and that will be the same NAV DISC that the AVN5500 has). IMO stick with the AVN5435, you still won't be disappointed!! Hope this helps!!!
raceronabudget 03-24-2007, 10:12 PM the 5495 doesn't work with the steering wheel controls. i just bought one of the pac swix things.
+1
Nothing on the AVN5495 is a direct plug-in with the exception of the antenna (2006 tC). You'll need to hardwire the unit into your existing harness. :doh:
can anybody else confirm this?
tagscook 03-28-2007, 12:55 AM Awesome! I will check that one out ...thanks for advice, am always looking to save a few bucks...it will all end up in my car somewhere anyway though :P
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=163172
Actually if you are looking at the AVN5435, here is a great deal on one. Great price and a great unit. Only difference between the AVN5435 and AVN5500 is the AVN5500 has a newer NAV DISC(BUT THE MDV-07D, NAV UPDATE from Eclipse will be released in the next couple weeks, which this model is covered on that update, and that will be the same NAV DISC that the AVN5500 has). IMO stick with the AVN5435, you still won't be disappointed!! Hope this helps!!!
thanks - didn't see this until just now. Sent him a PM to see if it is still for sale.
krazyscion 07-06-2007, 01:19 AM ehhh ...need some major help here guys...my cd5000 can't seem to have the brown wires for the steering wheel controls...is there another color scheme? or is there something i'm missing? thx in adv.
gjpjr84 07-06-2007, 01:34 AM from what i have read before only the double din units have the wires for the steering wheel controls.
krazyscion 07-06-2007, 05:51 AM not really i have a friend that has the cd3100 and it worked with steering wheel control... and its single DIN
gjpjr84 07-06-2007, 10:13 PM ah well, there goes that thread of explaination. :doh:
:question: screw eclipse, SNS all the way, works with everything and has just as many options and looks cooler, IMO.
VeeDubbx 07-11-2007, 01:15 AM and costs about 2 grand!
gjpjr84 07-11-2007, 02:48 AM damn straight but it has a crap load of goodies in it. compared to similar it isnt that bad
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