Hey my name is Mike from Sound Performance. We are one of the midwests largest tuner shops. Well we have our new TC turbo kit almost done. Here is a link with alot of pictures you can check out. This kit will be done in about 3 weeks. So check it out and let me know what you think..

Thanks
Mike @SP
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=94995

any more detailed pics of the manifold? that manifold looks sweet for a top mount turbo!

I have it out getting coated right now. I will have more pics when I get it back next week..

carb legal?

That I do not know. I think it would pretty hard to make a turbo kit carb legal..

Hey Im a newbie to all of this stuff and I just got a couple of questions. What does Carb legal mean? (I think is has something to do with emissons right?) Can I buy a part for my car that doesn't specify if its carb legal or not and I can still pass emissions down here in georgia?

Well carb is legal in all 50 states. I know in IL for emissons they just scan the ecu for codes and check engine lights. I dont know about georgia. I know that I am going to make my kit so there is no check engine light..

Aprox Price? Since many other companies are releasing their turbo kits, just comparing.

Running the SAFC for management? Are you sure you can get around ECU Relearning and CEL's under 4 grand?

I have found the way around all the SAFC problems.. The price will be right around $4,000 with the fuel system also. I am going to have all pricing in the next week or so..

Wonderful... us N/A guys are really hoping for some progress on our side in regards to the SAFC issues..... You'd make some good SL friends when the kit comes out, as we'd love to be able to tune our rides better and are limited currently....

Yea but I am not sure if I am going to share the fix just yet. I know that if I share the fix that every one is going to copy our kit and go with the SAFC insted of the e-manage because it would save in cost but I will be installing the SAFC'S and tuning them at the shop...I might also make a harness for the SAFC so it will be a easy install and then I can hide my little tricks to make it work...

That's understandable...

Eventually it will make the "papers" though, but I can appreciate you wanting to keep it proprietary until your release...

I like the harness idea... I would definately be interested.

Where are you from

Unfortunately... Portland, Or

Where is the shop located?

Yea but I am not sure if I am going to share the fix just yet. I know that if I share the fix that every one is going to copy our kit and go with the SAFC insted of the e-manage because it would save in cost but I will be installing the SAFC'S and tuning them at the shop...I might also make a harness for the SAFC so it will be a easy install and then I can hide my little tricks to make it work...

But from the other side you want us (the customer) to shell out 4 grand for a turbo kit with a fuel system that no one (besides you) has gotten around with the stock computer....all because you say you know a way around it and no concrete proof of that until we actually get the kit and try it out on our own (unless of course you're lucky enough to live by the shop and see for yourself). I'm not saying you don't or do, or am I criticizing your product. I'm just showing you another angle than just hiding your secrets for the sake of controlling the market. The more products out for the tC means more competition. More competition means better products and lower prices, so it's all good.

this sounds good, i would buy this

although i'd might change some parts around haha

Hmm.. interested.

Yea but I am not sure if I am going to share the fix just yet. I know that if I share the fix that every one is going to copy our kit and go with the SAFC insted of the e-manage because it would save in cost but I will be installing the SAFC'S and tuning them at the shop...I might also make a harness for the SAFC so it will be a easy install and then I can hide my little tricks to make it work...

But from the other side you want us (the customer) to shell out 4 grand for a turbo kit with a fuel system that no one (besides you) has gotten around with the stock computer....all because you say you know a way around it and no concrete proof of that until we actually get the kit and try it out on our own (unless of course you're lucky enough to live by the shop and see for yourself). I'm not saying you don't or do, or am I criticizing your product. I'm just showing you another angle than just hiding your secrets for the sake of controlling the market. The more products out for the tC means more competition. More competition means better products and lower prices, so it's all good.

Well I will have the all the dyno numbers up as well as the dyno video. I know our kit will work and be one the top kits on the market. I think the price is pretty fair seeing that most of the kits for $4,000 have no fuel system. Our kit will come with a polished and coated turbo along with a coated down pipe. If you have not seen our supra turbo kits witch produce tons of power and have some of the best quailty on the market then you should check out our web site. People that know Sound Performance know that we produce a kit that makes great horse power and that is very safe for every day driving.. The numbers should be out by the end of next week. We are just waiting on parts to come back from the polisher, coater, and chrome. I will up-date as soon as I can..

Where is the shop located?

We are located just out side of Chicago..

this sounds good, i would buy this

although i'd might change some parts around haha

Why would you not buy it? and what parts would you change?

I think the price is pretty fair seeing that most of the kits for $4,000 have no fuel system.

I like competition and I know ZPI does as well. But on behalf of us and Turbonetics, all of our kits for 4k come with a fuel system. They all use injector upgrades with a piggy back computer.

Your kit looks good and I support other companies developing products for the tC, but please do not mislead people to place your kits above everyone elses. It's not good business.

I am not doing that at all. Our kit comes with a full return system with a regulator. Thats what I mean with fuel system. I have not seen that yet on any other kits. I am just saying that I think our kit will be one of the better kits on the market along with the ZPI kits and so on...

I like the return fuel concept and await the results from the full install.... and hopefully, the SAFC setup sometime down the road

great job on the turbo kit. any estimated time when this kit will be release to the public?

about 2 to 3 weeks

Where is the shop located?

We are located just out side of Chicago..
Finaly a shop local to me that knows the Scion. Nothing like dealing with a local company. I have a feeling we are going to get to know each other. :clap:

Good. I am glad you know about us. Check out the link in my link of my orange XB. I think I was the first on the road in chicago at the time. That XB was in turbo magazine. When you come byI will show you the magazine..

interesting...i heard turbonetic's is gonna be carb legal

very nice kit. i especially like the short intercooler that does not require cutting of the re-bar.

I am in the Willowbrook Area and I am interested in you guys tuning my S-AFC II under 4000 rpm. Larry (AKA Flip Kid) told me about you guys and said you were the shop to go to.

^ I Think that the S-AFC II info is valuable, but also to the community outside the Illinois area...

I know a signifigant number of people would truely appreciate being able to tune our cars effectively, that have no ability to make it out to the midwest for that option.

Not only would it help out the tC community enourmously, but it was also be a great gesture from a new vendor as well...

Just nudging you in a positive direction, as I know for certain more of these messages are to come now that you've stated your ability to get the SAFC to work.

I'm sure that later they would possibly let the secret out but i know that right now they have to keep it a secret for many reasons.

The fact that it is a selling point for their kit is one of them.

Maybe they will release it for the right price?!!! :P :P :P

Looks like the word is getting out there....

The Natives are getting restless....

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=101157

so where are those detailed pics of the manifold?

Aww i went there today to check it out but the manifolds gettin coated. The manifold and turbo was on a while ago when i went there, and i'm tellin you, it looks good.

It isn't the Alphawerks manifold?

ex_dsmer when did you go there?

I went to see my car today and i too didn't know that everything was getting coated. The pipes should be back next week though and then the final stages and then the START!!!!! :nails: :nails:

I can't wait to get my car back and see how it performs!!!

I'll probably put 1,000 miles the first day i get it back from SP

Hey bigpinoytc i think i might have seen you there. I saw a filipino guy there (i'm filipino too) and i thought it might have been you because i know your car was there. I dont know if you saw my car but its SW and its got an HKS exhaust on it.

Well here are some more pics. This car should run tomorrow... I will post more pics tomorrow


http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_135.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_1341.jpg
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Well here are some more pics. This car should run tomorrow... I will post more pics tomorrow


http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_135.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_1341.jpg
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Is it me, or are you guys running NO Bov? Where the Bov normally is on other kits, you have the MAF Sensor there.

What difference does this produce?

Turbonetics Turbo Kit
http://x11.putfile.com/1/1820342644.jpg

SP Turbo Kit
http://x11.putfile.com/1/1820335897.jpg


That's what I'm refering too. By doing this, does it help with stalling and idle problems?

Not to knock anyones product but i am really glad i waited for my kit.

And tomorrow everyone will see what i mean when this bad boy puts out some sick ___ numbers!

Well by putting the MAF where we did the BOV does not matter because the BOV is not venting metered air... We do have a BOV on the kit. It is off the intercooler pipe down low so it will be very loud.. I will have pics up in the morning...

Mike!!!

Did you say the BOV will be "VERY" loud??!!!!!! :bow: :bow: :bow:

DAMN IT!!!!

I can't wait to drive this damn thing! :tap:

Looks like a good kit, if you guys are looking to sponsor a car with one id gladly help you out with that ;)

-Dan

On this kit, when the BOV vents the MAF will see no air and won't dump fuel into vacuum which is good.

The only problem I see is that the MAF will see compressed air which will be pretty hot relative to what it'd normally see like on the Turbonetics kit. That's fine though with tuning.

On this kit, when the BOV vents the MAF will see no air and won't dump fuel into vacuum which is good.

The only problem I see is that the MAF will see compressed air which will be pretty hot relative to what it'd normally see like on the Turbonetics kit. That's fine though with tuning.


Good point. How will the MAF react to compressed/higher temperature air being shoved past it? Is that something that's going to be worked out during tunning?

It's just interesting to see what other companies approach are. Amongst all the vendors producing Kits for us, this is the First and Only I have seen that has the MAF where it is. :ponder:

Here are some better pics of the kit...

http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_1251.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_1271.jpg
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http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_1381.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_130.jpg

That is so sweet 8) .

:love: :love:

some member with a custom kit (think his sn is taquito) put the maf there as well.

Sound performance is junk I would never buy a bunch of supra parts from them. :) Wait, maybe I already have.

Charles

It's just interesting to see what other companies approach are. Amongst all the vendors producing Kits for us, this is the First and Only I have seen that has the MAF where it is. :ponder:

Scionspeed put the maf up there as well.

Well guys the car is up and running all of the low rpm settings are in the SAFC and the car is on the dyno right now and I am going to tune the high side tomorrow. I will post numbers pics and videos tomorrow..

Sweet! Watching Thread.

Parts_Pimp, I was just wandering what turbo is that? I don’t remember if you mention that or not and how many lb of boos will the kit be set up for. Thanks

Rick C.

Ready for some #'s :)

Well guys we just made our first pull and it made 255 at the wheels @ 7lbs of boost with the second factory cat on the car still!!! This is great.. We are going to keep tuning and we might turn up the boost a little...

Well guys we just made our first pull and it made 255 at the wheels @ 7lbs of boost with the factory cat on the car still!!! This is great.. We are going to keep tuning and we might turn up the boost a little...

Sweet 8)

It made 278ft lbs of torque and we are still tunning. I think it is time to turn the boost up :)

It made 278ft lbs of torque and we are still tunning. I think it is time to turn the boost up :)

Ya, smart thinking just make it a nice even 300whp & 300tq.

watching this thread

I am impressed! Looks like another great kit will be available

How's the SAFC II working out? No CEL's on the baby and no ECU relearning? I'm still waiting axiously in the wings for your divine information regarding how to get this to work for the N/A world!

Sup everyone! Incase no one has caught on the car they are using for this kit is mine.

Right now Mike "Parts Pimp" is out driving my car around making sure everything is ok. There is still some more tuning to be done to get some more hp but we have a show to go to tomorrow so that'll have to wait.

The kit has not thrown a "CEL" and everything else seems to be fine according to Mike. He says its has instant pull and i couldn't get much more bkuz he is having to much fun driving my car. Im sure he will let you know about his drvin experience as will i when i drive it up to the show tomorrow.

I'll get to open it up the the expressway on our way up to Chi-town. I know i am going to enjoy this. The car gets back into the shop on Monday after the show and then the tuning will continue.

Tomorrow before the show i will see if Mike and I can take some videos and post them for your viewing pleasure.

Well guys we did end up making 262HP and 280 torque at the end of the day on 7lbs of boost. I have to say I have been driving this car all night and it is sick at 7lbs. This car has no check engine lights and runs like stock. It is so fun to drive I think I might have to buy one now. 1st gear is tire smoke and rev limter, 2nd gear is tire smoke, 3rd spins a little then just takes off. I will have some videos up soon.... I will have a price out by monday night with new pics.. I am also going to turn the boost up on monday and go for 300 or more...See you at the show this weekend...We are next to the nopi booth...

Very nice numbers, looks like another great kit!! Will you guys sell parts individually? Because im going to be looking into diff companies for my custom turbo and see what prices i get.

-Dan

nice numbers.. very impressed

Damn Charles, you lucky S.O.B. I can't wait to see it at the meets in the future.

i am with wedrivescions on this one i cant wait to figure out whats going on w/ the apexi safc... i am not boosted but this info would surely help me in finding out how to squeeze a few more out of my bolt ons without the ecu relearning and correcting

^ Just as long as I'm somewhere near the top of the list, when the apexi information comes out...

Bump for a nice looking setup... and still hoping you can help us N/A guys out.

Watching

Very nice numbers, looks like another great kit!! Will you guys sell parts individually? Because im going to be looking into diff companies for my custom turbo and see what prices i get.

-Dan

Yes I will sell parts to you. I am going to have the kit for sale on monday. I will have a new post with new pics, parts included in the kit and pricing.

i am with wedrivescions on this one i cant wait to figure out whats going on w/ the apexi safc... i am not boosted but this info would surely help me in finding out how to squeeze a few more out of my bolt ons without the ecu relearning and correcting

What are you trying to accomplish with your NA?


Larry

Well i just had to tell you guys that i FINALLY go to drive my car today. I drove in with a small caravan of cars all done up by Sound Performance.....350z w/pro charger, Axis Hiros etc. A 2006 Zo6 black with 20's on back 19's on front (black forgeline wheels) this car is sick ___ hell with its exhaust n headers.

Anyway back to my car. This car is a beast. As soon as i touch the pedal you have instant boost and you glued to the seat. With a few hundred miles on the kit there is still no CEL of the sort. The BOV is crazy loud and i loved it....a real head turner.

Mike will post videos and have picks up by monday night so youll be able to see for yourself.


This kit the $H!T!!!!

All of us N/A guys are trying to get the most HP out of the engine without pushing the F/I... some for priciple, some for sheer price....

All of us want to be able to use the SAFC to further tune the setup... He's just one more on the list that's hungry for that ability, the ones who have the apexi are even that much more, as it really presents problems for them.

All of us N/A guys are trying to get the most HP out of the engine without pushing the F/I... some for priciple, some for sheer price....

All of us want to be able to use the SAFC to further tune the setup... He's just one more on the list that's hungry for that ability, the ones who have the apexi are even that much more, as it really presents problems for them.


Are you trying to lean it out a bit to pick up a couple HP? Do you have a wideband in the car now?

I believe he does have a PLX, hes running nitrous so its a must to have a wideband.

I've got everything... just want the ability to tune my engine along the RPM curve, lean or rich as I need, especially with upcoming projects such as P&P and Larger TB. Going Emanage or Unichip is not what I want to do, and since the SAFCII will do that for me, I want to go that direction, just hit the wall with the CEL problem and the ECU...

Looking forward to price and availability.

Well i just had to tell you guys that i FINALLY go to drive my car today. I drove in with a small caravan of cars all done up by Sound Performance.....350z w/pro charger, Axis Hiros etc. A 2006 Zo6 black with 20's on back 19's on front (black forgeline wheels) this car is sick butt hell with its exhaust n headers.

Anyway back to my car. This car is a beast. As soon as i touch the pedal you have instant boost and you glued to the seat. With a few hundred miles on the kit there is still no CEL of the sort. The BOV is crazy loud and i loved it....a real head turner.

Mike will post videos and have picks up by monday night so youll be able to see for yourself.


This kit the $H!T!!!!

duuude!!! u gotta let me check out ur car! what part of chicago are u from?

picts? vids? and when does the normal turbo hit full boost and when does it hit for the ball-bearing upgrade?

picts? vids? and when does the normal turbo hit full boost and when does it hit for the ball-bearing upgrade?

There is a new post with pics. I do not have vid's let but they are coming soon. The vall bearing comes in at 3200 the non ball bearing should come in about 3500

since the ball bearing kit is bigger, will the non-ball bearing kit still push the same numbers?

track times would be sweet as well!!

i know i know im demanding

oh and to get a good idea of how big this turbo is... what is the cfm rating?

told you i was demanding..

thanks

Well I have made 640 at the wheels with the same turbo. We will run the car when it gets warmer and the tracks are open

Hey guys check out my post with new pics of the kit off the car..