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7red7
01-12-2006, 12:55 AM
I know it's been publicised a million times, but I was unable to find anything to answer my question in the search feature...

I faintly remember a TSB or some kind of replacement plan for the xB windshields being done by dealerships due to them cracking/breaking/shattering et-all...Is this TSB still in effect??? If so, does anyone have the info on it, or know where I can find it???

My xB became on of the thousands with a cracked windshield today thanks to the 24 Freeway in Oakland...

Last but not least...How much does a Scion windshield cost to replace anyway???

Thanks!!!

DAN

rdclark
01-12-2006, 02:13 PM
You may be thinking of the tC moonroof recall. I don't believe there's anything on xB windshields, although some people certainly think there ought to be.

RichC

Wheellug
01-12-2006, 02:23 PM
no.. no recall for xB windscreen.

though I wish they would replace mine. Besides the one crack, there must be a thousand small pits. I've never seen pitting on windscreens before.

RudyT
01-13-2006, 01:27 AM
there must be a thousand small pits. I've never seen pitting on windscreens before.

My old Jetta had the windshield pitting happen, it's a...pity (couldn't help myself)

NHGrafx
01-13-2006, 02:14 AM
Yeah my windshield has millions of small sand grain sized pits in it. Driving into the sun makes it impossible to see through them all. Now my windhshield has a 2.5 foot crack in it from a rock kicked by a truck. So now I have a good excuse to replace it. Hopefully with something better.

7red7
01-13-2006, 04:47 AM
I have a mobile company coming out tomorrow afternoon to do a windshield replacement...Has anyone ever had their windshields replaced yet??? If so, what's all involved??? I'm just concered about glue residue spilling out onto the A Pillars or the wiper area just behind the hood...Is a windshield replacement a tough thing for someone to do??? Forgive my naivety, I've never had to replace one before :D

DAN

xActly
01-13-2006, 12:16 PM
I have a mobile company coming out tomorrow afternoon to do a windshield replacement...Has anyone ever had their windshields replaced yet??? If so, what's all involved??? I'm just concered about glue residue spilling out onto the A Pillars or the wiper area just behind the hood...Is a windshield replacement a tough thing for someone to do??? Forgive my naivety, I've never had to replace one before :D

DAN

If it's a reputable company (not Jo-Bob's glass 'n' stuff) you should not be able to tell they ever touched your car, besides the fact that your glass is new.

Don't accept anything less - I know I won't when I get my rock-cracked windshield replaced in the spring.

I plan to inspect closely after the swap to make sure there are no imperfections, and as soon as they say it's ok (assuming the sealant has a cure time) I'm bringing it to the power-wash to test their work further. If it leaks, it's going back.

7red7
01-13-2006, 11:06 PM
If it's a reputable company (not Jo-Bob's glass 'n' stuff) you should not be able to tell they ever touched your car, besides the fact that your glass is new.

Don't accept anything less - I know I won't when I get my rock-cracked windshield replaced in the spring.

I plan to inspect closely after the swap to make sure there are no imperfections, and as soon as they say it's ok (assuming the sealant has a cure time) I'm bringing it to the power-wash to test their work further. If it leaks, it's going back.

I've decided to go through Triumph Auto Glass...They came recommended to me by another Scio owner here that I work with who had his xB windshield replaced...The tech came out today to inspect the car and informed me that it's a seamless transition, and yes I wouldn't be able to notice anything being different other than my glass being brand new...I called in for a repair not a replacement the other day so they're coming back to replace it on Monday afternoon...They told me the whole thing takes about an hour to complete and then another hour to completely cure and dry...You better believe I'm heading down to the pressure wash after it cures ;)

DAN

flyerI
01-13-2006, 11:43 PM
Unless the technology has changed drastically in the last year you need to give it about 24 hours to cure. The one I had done about a year ago involved putting a bead of sealant/adhesive around the frame and then pressing the windshield into the frame. The tech said to leavea door window cracked just so slightly if the car was sitting out in the hot sun for the rest of the day. He had seen the pressure in the car rise from the heat enough to force the newly installed winshield out slightly and break the bond of the adhesive. He also said not to spray water directly around the seam for the same time period or it could force the adhesive to move and cause a leak. I do not remember the name of the company but they have done 3 of them now over the last 6 years or so and they are a large company, not a fly by night outfit.

xActly
01-14-2006, 02:22 PM
Unless the technology has changed drastically in the last year you need to give it about 24 hours to cure. The one I had done about a year ago involved putting a bead of sealant/adhesive around the frame and then pressing the windshield into the frame. The tech said to leavea door window cracked just so slightly if the car was sitting out in the hot sun for the rest of the day. He had seen the pressure in the car rise from the heat enough to force the newly installed winshield out slightly and break the bond of the adhesive. He also said not to spray water directly around the seam for the same time period or it could force the adhesive to move and cause a leak. I do not remember the name of the company but they have done 3 of them now over the last 6 years or so and they are a large company, not a fly by night outfit.

24 hours seems reasonable. Good tip about leaving the window cracked a bit in the warmer weather/direct sunlight.

bB_Widow
01-14-2006, 06:50 PM
Last but not least...How much does a Scion windshield cost to replace anyway???

Thanks!!!

DAN Depends on how much your deductable is :rofl:

DeansBlackBox
01-14-2006, 11:55 PM
My windshield is cracked-cracked by a truck....great....It started out as a chip that I got repaired and once the cold air hit it-it started to spread ...the sheild is a problem.

bB2NER
01-15-2006, 04:22 AM
We are still waiting for the answer to the question... What is an average cost to replace the xB windshield. I'd like to know just incase. Thanks!

rmfitch
01-16-2006, 06:00 AM
Here is some data to help determine the average cost of replacing an Xb windshield. I've replaced 2 in the last year here in the bay area (only thing worse than the flying rocks on 24 is the uneven payment - Get the koni's, it really helps!). A2Z Autoglass replaced it for $295. After finding out that the window leaked badly after a rain, I tried calling them, but the phone just rang. Not wanting to mess around with a small shop, I called a few others and went with All Star Glass for $311. That was about 3 mo ago. I just returned from the car wash and found a nice leak down the center of the windshield. I'll drop by the shop tomorrow.

Tomas
01-16-2006, 06:49 AM
Back in February of 2005, when I'd put less than 500 miles on the box, someone tossed 4 large chunks of concrete at the front of my xB. Part of the damage was the windshield.

The first replacement glass (Pilkington) did NOT fit the vehicle properly and had numerous 'wavy' areas in it so I refused to accept the job. It was replaced by the same shop (a quality shop) with a different brand that fit perfectly.

Not only was the Fuyao Glass (FY) windshield of better quality and fit, the flexible seal piece around the glass (it has to be replaced, too, any time the windshield is) was of a MUCH higher quality.

Look carefully at how your factory glass fits, and how the flexible black trim around it fits. Make sure your new glass fits the same way.

As to how long one has to wait for the job to "set," it varies. There are 'fast set,' 'normal,' and 'slow set' adhesive mixes, depending on temperature when the work is done and other things. The usual, 'normal' adhesives should be left for 5-8 hours, again, depending on temp. The shop should tell you.

Be very careful not to slam the doors with the windows up all the way, close them gently for a couple days - the sudden overpressure of a quickly closed door can sometimes un-seal things a bit until they are fully and completely cured.

Good luck! That's a big chunk of glass for just one guy to put in place...

bB2NER
01-16-2006, 07:02 PM
Thomas, that is very good and useful advise. I might add it will help to lower a side window while the windshield is drying to aid in closing the door without building pressure

Tomas
01-16-2006, 10:09 PM
Yeah, Jethro, I had front and rear windows all down about 3/8 inch for a few days just to make sure I didn't 'pop' the seal on the install job. That may be a bit of a 'belt and suspenders' sort of action, but I'd rather be certain everything is well cured before stressing it a lot. (Keep in mind, too, that the adhesives cure faster in summer than winter...)

(What I find interesting is that my new glass had taken some rather amazing hits with little damage so far. Buzzing down the freeway and watching a rock come right at you, and hearing that huge *THWAK!* as it hits is nerve wracking. When close inspection later finds only about a 1/32nd inch scar on the glass surface, one is impressed at just how tough glass can be at times.)

bB2NER
01-16-2006, 10:19 PM
I've taken some substantial hits on the stocker with no damage. I know it's only a matter of time before my luck runs out. Knock on wood...

7red7
03-06-2006, 04:05 AM
You know I never did post about my results...After about a month since getting it replaced, the new glass is still perfect...Oh and I didn't have a chance to let the windshield cure for 24 hours, the rain began falling about four hours after the tech left my driveway...

The new replacement glass is thicker, and better quality glass...Not sure if the namebrand of it, but I can get it if anyone needs it :D

No new chips yet at all, it's water tight, and believe it or not I even hear less of the outside wind noise than I did before...Oh and the best part is, it also came with a smoked tint strip that matches the factory rear windows perfectly...Total cost was $230.00 tax and all :D

HAPPY DRIVING ALL!!!

DAN

bhatfield99
03-06-2006, 08:41 PM
My windshield cracked on me this morning. Some salt from a plow truck got me and put a 12in crack in the glass. I know that scions arent very popular in this area. So ive called 6 glass shops now and not one of them even has a listing for my car. I called the dealer and they want $525 for OE glass. Which im not to excited about spending it on a peice of crap glass that breaks when salt hits it. So im trying to find out some manufacturers names so i can find my own glass. Any help would be awsome.

Tomas
03-06-2006, 10:40 PM
So im trying to find out some manufacturers names so i can find my own glass. Any help would be awsome.
I'm very happy with my Fuyao Glass windshield, I was less happy with the first replacement by Pilkington

Here's the logo from the corner of the Fuyao windshield on my xB. It appears to be very strong glass, free of defects - it has taken some significant whacks without a problem...

http://tijil.org/new_glass01.jpg

(Ignore the stainless steel wiper insert strip coming out of the OEM wiper - that's a whole different problem that was solved. :) )

7red7
03-07-2006, 07:08 AM
I went outsie and checked my glass out, and sure enough I have the exact same windhield that Tomas has...I highly recommend this company as well, this new windshield has taken some hits that would have easily added another chip or two to the OEM glass...

Hey Tomas, did your glass come with the smoked tint strip over the spotted "center viser"??? I'm curious to know if this is something this manufacturer does to all of their xB windshields because it could be a great thing to add to help promote this company for aftermarket replacements...That tint strip has really come in handy the past few weeks :D

HAPPY DRIVING!!!

DAN

Tomas
03-07-2006, 07:18 AM
Hmmmmm... Nope! I don't have the 'smoked' area, just the dots. :)

I read up on Fuyao once I finally found out who made mine, and they actually make some of the OEM Toyota glass in the Asian markets. (http://www.fuyaogroup.com/en/home.htm)

I'm very impressed with the overall quality not only of the glass, but of the vinyl trim that comes with it to put around the windshield - that's another area where the Fuyao far outshines the Pilkington replacement I refused to accept.

If i have to get this one replaced I will actually specify Fuyao over the OEM glass.

7red7
03-07-2006, 10:33 PM
I was told the same thing about the company making the OEM glass in Japan from the tech who came out to do my install...I'll take some pics in a few minutes, and get them posted here so you can see the new glass and tint strip I'm talking about :D

And I agree, I'll be using this glass and the same company to replace this windshield if it comes to that again for sure :D

DAN

xActly
03-09-2006, 10:30 PM
Thanks for the brand Tomas & 7red7 - I'll be calling my insurance company to collect on my full glass coverage as soon as they sweep the streets around here...don't want to get a new shield just to have someone throw another rock.

I'll make sure to request that particular brand.

Tomas
03-10-2006, 12:53 AM
Uh, 7red7, when you take pics of your replacement glass, could you see if you can grab the numbers down in the corner, too? Maybe one of 'em is the part number for the smoked top windshield. :D

7red7
03-10-2006, 08:53 AM
I sure will...Weather has been rainy here for the past three days, and I wasn't able to get any clean shots...I'll have 'em up the first inch of sun I see in the sky...The weather is supposed to be clearing up tomrrow and then raining all weekend so hopefully I'll have a small window of opportunity to grab some pics tomorrow morning :D

Hang in there, pics are definitely on their way soon :D

DAN

bhatfield99
03-10-2006, 12:05 PM
Just another option for everyone, I called Safelite the other day and they told me $207 installed on site. They apparently manufacture their own glass. Im not sure of the quality but I think im going to give it a shot. Ill post my after thoughts when i see what its all about. In the meantime if anyone has gone with safelite id love to hear about it. Im not going to have it done untill next week sometime.

bB2NER
03-10-2006, 10:10 PM
Safelite did a great job on my van. It was better than the Ford OEM glass by far. I'll prolly go with them if the need arises

Bubble2Box
12-15-2006, 02:39 AM
:flame:
OK....The box hasn't been driven since last Friday. It's been sitting in the carport, safe and sound. I had a ride to the airport on Sunday and just got brought back home. Had to run something to a friend and sat down in VooDoo and his windshield is cracked about a foot and a half from about the lower corner on the driver's side towards the middle. This is not from a rock chip....not one of the dozen or so I've had fixed. It's not even been below freezing here. Oh well, I'll have to have the windshield replaced before inspection time after the first of the year. Thanks Tomas for your comments on Fuyao.

keg79
12-19-2006, 07:01 PM
:flame:...........mine got done by a rock this morning on my first long trip.........so now
i'm in texas with a huge crack in my glass and can't decide if i get it fixed here or wait till i get back to georgia.

bB2NER
12-19-2006, 07:08 PM
:flame:...........mine got done by a rock this morning on my first long trip.........so now
i'm in texas with a huge crack in my glass and can't decide if i get it fixed here or wait till i get back to georgia.I'd wait and shop around for a replacement when you get home. Plus why risk the second window on the trip home. Sorry this happened to ya :cry:

Bubble2Box
02-02-2007, 01:06 AM
OK, so I bought my car January of '06 and it needed a new inspection sticker before the end of the month. Now in MS, you can have NO muffler, mis-matched bald tires, etc and pass inspection....but a CRACK in the windshield....NO SIR. That's not safe. So I called to make the appointment for the new windshield at a shop that's very respected. I asked the guy what brand he would use, and he said Pilkington. I told him I'd heard bad things about that brand from a good source not to get Pilkington for the xB. I asked about Fuyao. He said that actually cost him alot less, but he couldn't recommend it. After a while, I gave in and said OK, but that he'd be replacing it if I didn't like it. It was replace on Monday.

It fit GREAT. Perfect view. No problems.

Tonight, on the way home, WHACK! Big ole rock hits the windshield head on. Would have busted the Toyota glass all to pieces. Barely a nick. I must say I've been pleased with the purchase.

bB2NER
02-02-2007, 03:50 AM
So maybe all these glass problem stem from the Toyota OE glass?

Bubble2Box
02-02-2007, 11:00 AM
Oh no Doubt about the OEM glass being sub standard.

JONR
02-04-2007, 03:46 AM
Well gang I had mine crack right after getting it, took it to a glass shop, and they said they could see no damage to the glass, was just right of the rear view mirror as others have reported.
The car compnay replaced it at their charge and gee guess what, a short time later the same think has happened again. Same exact place as the other one just right of the reir view mirrow. No damage visable. Starting under the molding. This seems like a pattern reported by others and seems like Scion needs to step up to the plate, and solve a problem for a great car.

integroid
02-04-2007, 04:12 AM
That Sucks

Darkfader
02-04-2007, 05:22 AM
Damn when I bought my xB 3 days later my windshield crack to the right of the rear view mirror. There was no damage what so ever I was so ____ed.

JONR
02-05-2007, 02:59 AM
Well this is my second with no damage in 6 months. Yes it does suck well off to do battle with the dealer tomorrow.

Jon

JONR
02-05-2007, 02:59 AM
Well this is my second with no damage in 6 months. Yes it does suck well off to do battle with the dealer tomorrow.

Jon

JONR
02-05-2007, 02:59 AM
Well this is my second with no damage in 6 months. Yes it does suck well off to do battle with the dealer tomorrow.

Jon

inversed
02-05-2007, 03:23 AM
So I guess unfortunately I get to add my two-bits to the cacophony of broken windshields....

Samething. I awoke yesterday morning to a crack in the upper passenger side of the windshield. No impact star. Just a crack in the glass from the top down.....

So I'm bringing it in tomorrow. Wish me luck.

vFePiC
02-05-2007, 06:27 PM
So I guess unfortunately I get to add my two-bits to the cacophony of broken windshields....

Samething. I awoke yesterday morning to a crack in the upper passenger side of the windshield. No impact star. Just a crack in the glass from the top down.....

So I'm bringing it in tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Mine started also from the passenger side, but it came from UNDER the seam all the way on the right side. It was cracking from right to left, not top to bottom. They always do that retarded pen test. All the pens will catch on is the split glass or shards........ Hopefully your dealer wont fight with you on it. Mine didnt, yet i dont even want this glass. But i will give them a chance to fix the problem.

wonderworm
01-22-2009, 11:12 PM
I'm very impressed with the overall quality not only of the glass, but of the vinyl trim that comes with it to put around the windshield - that's another area where the Fuyao far outshines the Pilkington replacement I refused to accept.
If i have to get this one replaced I will actually specify Fuyao over the OEM glass.
Just to add to some confusion. I need to replace my OEM windshield which has lasted 4+ years and am trying to find the most dependable windshield with a tint strip at the top and preferably with integrated solar tint to block the infrared heat. Similar to this product that noone seems to have or even know that it exists. Anyone familiar with PPG sungate? http://corporateportal.ppg.com/NA/OEMGlass/10_Products/SungateWindshield/sungate.htm

Also, the opinion of the local glass installer was that Fuyao was "crap" and he actually said he would not install it! He selected Pinkleton with solar strip for me.

What do you think? Anyone with any current 2009 experiences with Fuyao or the other windshields? I would love to be able to get the IR sunblocking windshield but noone has heard of sungate. In spite of the installer's opinion, my second choice right now is Fuyao if it has the tint strip on the top.

tat2dude25
01-27-2009, 04:17 AM
I know this post is old, but heres my thing. I have an 06 xB and my windshield literally saved my life today. Never had a crack chip etc. on it until now. I have had rocks, birds and everything slam into it. Today I was on a freeway and was following a Ford F250 in the other lane and either a part flew off his P.O.S. or he hit something in the road. I saw the oblect fly through the air. I thought it was a bird and SLAM! It hit so hard that it threw my garage door opener on my sunvisor and my sirius radio in the back seat! The windshield needless to say is a total spiderweb. It is almost caved in where the object hit. After getting his tag # just in case it was something out of his truck, I went back to get my prize. It is a piece of metal about the weight and size of a baseball! My friend belives it is a piece off a parking brake. Not sure! There is actually rust embedded in the glass from where it hit. At first I was P*ss#d but after looking at the offending object and the windshield. I laughed about it. I was doing 75 MPH when it hit. I truely belive the windshield in my Scion totally saved me. It hit exactly right where it would of hit me in the face. I truely belive that if there was a problem with the windshield in my xB I would be dead! Maybe tomorrow I will post pics of the windshield and the object and let you guys be the judge before the insurance adjustor gets here!

tat2dude25
01-27-2009, 04:23 AM
Oh guy forgot to mention I am sorry to any of you who ARE having probs. with Toyota glass. After my accident I remember reading about windshield probs on the xB. I then decided to post my experience with it which to me was good. Not sure what I'll be replacing it with though?

bB2NER
01-27-2009, 05:05 AM
Sorry about your windshield but glad you survived. Looking forward to the pics too.

EAmon
01-27-2009, 05:15 AM
i guess ill chime in
my windshield cracked prematurely (at lik 26k)
due to stress (hot inside cold outside)
toyota replaced it for free
looked at teh receipt when i got teh car back
said it would have been $1000 if it wasnt under warranty

bB2NER
01-27-2009, 05:20 AM
toyota replaced it for free
looked at teh receipt when i got teh car back
said it would have been $1000 if it wasnt under warranty :money: Wow, no wonder dealers don't $ell many windshields. Average replacement windshields run around 300 bucks. :relief:

kimaesha
09-24-2009, 04:03 PM
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