View Full Version : Rear washer nozzle: less dribble, more spray?


Thirty-Nine
01-13-2006, 01:29 PM
Living in the Midwest, I use my rear windshield wiper washer quite a bit. However, I don't like how it just runs down the back. It doesn't really get the window clean.

Has anyone replaced the stock unit with something hat actually sprays the rear window for more coverage?

HeathenBrewing
01-13-2006, 07:31 PM
Living in the Midwest, I use my rear windshield wiper washer quite a bit. However, I don't like how it just runs down the back. It doesn't really get the window clean.

Has anyone replaced the stock unit with something hat actually sprays the rear window for more coverage?

Maybe mount another motor inline near the rear of the box to give it some more power. It is quite a long run for a single motor.

Thirty-Nine
01-13-2006, 07:50 PM
I think the problem lies with the nozzle more than the motor, though.

HeathenBrewing
01-13-2006, 07:55 PM
Sorry..I am in SoCal and have no need for the rear wiper/nozzle.

EastTNScionxB
01-13-2006, 08:44 PM
I removed my wiper and the nozzle. That's the future spot for my rear-view camera!

grizzly_choppers
01-13-2006, 09:30 PM
I feel your pain.

I think Heathen is right though. It's not so much a function of a bad nozzle, but a pump that needs to push the fluid along 10 feet of hose. That's a lot to ask from such a small pump.

I'm going to experiment though and we'll find out for sure. We're supposed to have a nice weekend here and I should be able to check a couple of things out. I'll post up if I come up with anything good.

-Alex

Max
01-14-2006, 04:33 AM
I have a little experience here, although not automotive-related. I suggest a larger diameter hose. I have not tried this in an automotive application, but it worked well on another project of mine (think refrigerators and how slow water comes out of the door filler.)

Drinking through a big straw is easier than a coffee stirrer.

Spr0ket
01-14-2006, 04:48 AM
MMMmm sushi. Dammit man, now I got to go get my fix. Yellow tail, squid, and bbq'd eel are my favs.

Increase the hose diameter and there will be less resistance in the line for the small motor.

squirrel
01-14-2006, 04:56 AM
I think Heathen is right though. It's not so much a function of a bad nozzle, but a pump that needs to push the fluid along 10 feet of hose. That's a lot to ask from such a small pump.

Yup!

dittoprinter
01-14-2006, 05:00 AM
Here's something weird..... On my white business box the rear squirter has only one hole and yes it just kind of dribbles out. However, the TCM personal box has a two hole squirter that actually has enuogh pressure to make it work the way it's supposed to. Bought 'em about 6 weeks apart. What's up with that?

Thirty-Nine
01-14-2006, 04:33 PM
MMMmm sushi. Dammit man, now I got to go get my fix. Yellow tail, squid, and bbq'd eel are my favs.

Yes, I hear ya. I'm a sushi fiend. I can't get enough if it!

Here's something weird..... On my white business box the rear squirter has only one hole and yes it just kind of dribbles out. However, the TCM personal box has a two hole squirter that actually has enuogh pressure to make it work the way it's supposed to. Bought 'em about 6 weeks apart. What's up with that?

Hmmm....that's interesting. One of the nicest washer nozzles I had on a car were on my old Ford Focus. The hood-mounted sprayers shot a fan of mist instead of a stream. I think that'd be what I'd ultimately want. Then again, it's probably hard to aim one on a flat surface, such as the xB's rear glass.

grizzly_choppers
01-14-2006, 04:41 PM
Here's something weird..... On my white business box the rear squirter has only one hole and yes it just kind of dribbles out. However, the TCM personal box has a two hole squirter that actually has enuogh pressure to make it work the way it's supposed to. Bought 'em about 6 weeks apart. What's up with that?

Do either of yours have steering wheel controls?

At the moment there is only one part number for all years of xB rear washer nozzles. I do wonder, however, if the 2006.5 models will have an altered rear nozzle. The easiest identifier of a 2006.5 model is the wheel controls.

-Alex

dittoprinter
01-14-2006, 05:26 PM
Here's something weird..... On my white business box the rear squirter has only one hole and yes it just kind of dribbles out. However, the TCM personal box has a two hole squirter that actually has enuogh pressure to make it work the way it's supposed to. Bought 'em about 6 weeks apart. What's up with that?

Do either of yours have steering wheel controls?

At the moment there is only one part number for all years of xB rear washer nozzles. I do wonder, however, if the 2006.5 models will have an altered rear nozzle. The easiest identifier of a 2006.5 model is the wheel controls.

-Alex

Neither has the steering controls.... Except for the paint, transmission and hubcaps everything else is the same. It's the TCM w/ auto that has the "good" two squirter apparatus. It, however, has the 8 spoke caps, I'd take just about any other style in trade if anyone is interested. I'm planning on some new rims later to ultimatly fix that problem.

xActly
01-17-2006, 01:06 AM
Keep looking for the nozzle & don't bother w/the hose or the pump. There is a sufficient AMOUNT of liquid coming out. It just needs to be controlled more efficiently at the end (the nozzle).

Think of a garden hose. A limp dick with nothing on the end, but restrict the flow just right & voila! You can hit your neighbor's house...WITHOUT increasing the pressure OR the diameter of the hose.

It's the nozzle. Let me know if you find anything.

While you're at it, let me know if you find anything better for the FRONT sprayers too...you know, the ones that shoot liquid with enough power to break the damn windshield, but deposit it in 6 very small spots. Yeah, those. And don't tell me to get a larger motor or hose.

Kremtok
01-17-2006, 01:48 AM
You said 'limp dick.'

dittoprinter
01-17-2006, 02:08 AM
While you're at it, let me know if you find anything better for the FRONT sprayers too...you know, the ones that shoot liquid with enough power to break the damn windshield, but deposit it in 6 very small spots. Yeah, those. And don't tell me to get a larger motor or hose.

The front sprayers for both of mine work great. It's the rear one on the PW box that has a GM design flaw the TCM's is acceptable. But, in Toyota's defense I can't remember ever seeing a rear window washer that was worth a darn.

BLKScion
01-17-2006, 02:58 AM
Swapped the rear wiper nozel off my element one day with the xB...works much better....i wouldnt call it a spray (its hard to get a spray to get on the rear window at that angle, plus while your driving the wind blows the spray all over the place...but its got three little jets, one to the left, right and down the middle...comes out alittle more pressured then the stock nozel, but best of all it get the whole rear window wet so the wiper doesnt just push around dirt on the rear left side like it does with the stock one cause it doesnt have enough liquid...
(oh, and it still looks stock, same color, and same size (about 1/24" bigger, no whoop))

edxa
01-17-2006, 03:13 AM
I have a solution...

Move to So. Cal. :lol:

oldmanatee
01-17-2006, 01:17 PM
Reckon the better squirter is a front nozle put on by mistake?

Thirty-Nine
01-17-2006, 02:03 PM
Yes, but the front nozzles have three squirters per nozzle, where as the rear only has one.

jpscion
01-17-2006, 02:24 PM
i have an 06 box and myself and some others from this board (SarcasmKillsMe, DaJap, and TheDanger) realized that my nozzle stuck out farther then theirs... mine actually works too..... maybe gt an 06 nozzle. by the way I do not have wheels controls

ScionPsyche
01-17-2006, 04:56 PM
I have an '06, but it dribbles. :cry:

pooder
01-18-2006, 12:34 AM
Yes, but the front nozzles have three squirters per nozzle, where as the rear only has one.Really? My early '06 (delivered on 10/05) has three squirters on the front nozzles, but TWO squirters on the rear nozzle. And it does a moderately decent job of wetting the rear window. (It helps to twist the knob down to spray some water for a second or two before turning up to wipe, I've found.) Not great, but passible.

The front nozzles are terrific, though. If I ever get a round tuit I'm going to try putting a front Scion nozzle on my Camry and see if that would improve the spraying there . . . .

-Don in sloppy Rochester MN

dchichaz
01-18-2006, 01:40 AM
My '06 has two nozzles as well. I usually just spray the window first and let it run down the window and then start the wiper. Can usually get it cleared in 4 or 5 wipes.

cherryBox
01-18-2006, 05:20 AM
I would echo the other posters who mention the pump. While you would need a different nozze to get a 'spray' pattern, the nozzle is so far from the pump (which is in the front of the car) that the pressure is weak.

Think of it this way: take a 2 foot section of garden hose, and a 10 foot section of garden hose. with a mouthful of water, how hard would you have to blow on each to get the water in your mouth out the other end?

ScionPsyche
01-18-2006, 05:36 AM
My '06 has two nozzles as well. I usually just spray the window first and let it run down the window and then start the wiper. Can usually get it cleared in 4 or 5 wipes.

I just checked my '06 and it has only one nozzle. Apparently only some '06s have the twin nozzles. If anyone has an '06 parts book, it would be interesting to see if the part number changed. This site only has an '04 parts book. It looks like a cinch to change out. If I can find one, I will change it out.

Tom

TerryStolmeier
01-18-2006, 05:45 AM
If it is still under warrenty I would take it back to a dealer and argue that it is a safety issue.

I will look into a different part for the newer model tomorrow.

Matt_Moore
01-18-2006, 12:30 PM
My 06 PW xB has the dual nozzle sprayer.

Just checked mine yesterday afternoon (after readin this post).