View Full Version : Greddy Supercharger Installed!!!!!!
Rocket 01-23-2006, 11:23 PM Just got done with my Greddy Supercharger install. It took about 8 hous and that included installing a B&M Automatic Transmission Cooler. I have not even driven it yet, but I will take it to work Tuesday. I also removed the front bumper cover, the instructions do not tell you to do this but I had to to install the Trans. Cooler and I believe it made the s-charger install much eaisier. Here are a few pics I will update tommorow after the drive
http://www.morethantires.com/t//No_Bumper.JPG
http://www.morethantires.com/i//Mustang.JPG
http://www.morethantires.com/i//Supercharger.JPG
05_camo_boxb 01-24-2006, 02:11 AM how did you do the ac line??move it?made a new one??lloking good so does that stang ...
BrianxB 01-24-2006, 02:35 AM http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/dude__where_s_my_car_/_group_photos/ashton_kutcher4.jpg
SUHWEET!
sarcasmkillsme 01-24-2006, 03:04 AM Please please please please please take a video!!! I wanna hear the whine!
TurboTighe 01-24-2006, 03:47 AM Please please please please please take a video!!! I wanna hear the whine!
Stop yer whining! :rofl:
eight08customs 01-24-2006, 04:12 AM Cool congrats!!! I drove an Xb with the SC while i was in LA this weekend.. It dosent make a whine... its a sleeper..
BTW what did you kit come with?? did it come with Greddy badges and instuctions in english???..
fusionscion 01-24-2006, 03:30 PM it doesnt make noise... i drove a xb with a blitz s/c and it was soo loud.... more pix, and a video..... nicceeeee :bow: :bow:
BoogieQ 01-25-2006, 05:48 AM Can you post some more detailed shots of how it's setup? Such as how the pulle is driven and some different angles and such?
ProshopXB 01-25-2006, 07:46 PM Rocket why a trans. cooler??
Rocket 01-25-2006, 11:23 PM AC Line ? The only AC line that was in the way was the one on the passenger side front, I used a few zip ties and tied it out of harms way.
Whine? I don't have a video camera but it only whines abovr 4000 RPM.
I did not get any Greedy Badges and the kit came with no instructions, but Greddy e-mailed me very good instructions in english.
I will try to post a few more pics Thursday.
Trans Cooler? I have been told that the Automatic Trans in the xB is a little weak for a Turbo or SuperCharger, most Autos fail due to heat, so I install a trans cooler and Red Line Synethic Trans Fluid to help keep the heat down.
I hope I have anwsered all the questions, The xB runs well big diference at low and mid RPM still no Rocket Ship but very fun to drive, If I need speed my other car has 1000hp. But I love my xB!!!!
squirrel 01-25-2006, 11:30 PM Rocket, I agree. The minimum peeps w/ auto trannies should do is synthetic at 30k miles. I did the same w/ my Matrix and it shifts a whole lot easier. The tranny cooler will be next should I decide to keep it.
xdorkx 01-26-2006, 02:33 PM PICS AND VIDEO, PICS AND VIDEO,
you said you dont have a vid cam, use your cell phone if you have to, or sometin!!!!!!!!!
dgHotLava 01-26-2006, 03:25 PM that SC is large....(at least it seems big in the pics.)
i am interested in knowing how much power it makes for you.
good clean install. nice work.
em-de-em 01-26-2006, 03:55 PM I'm interested if you're getting any CEL's, at anytime or have to reset them to continue on. It uses eManage PnP correct?
Rocket 01-26-2006, 11:24 PM The power is not great but it is very noticable, I'm sure 0-60 times are cut but 25-35% (a guess) I have had no CEL as of yet. It seams to be a great kit and a pretty easy install. The Greedy kit came with a Greedy piggyback computer.
sarcasmkillsme 01-27-2006, 12:06 AM You should buy some very light weight wheels and loose the 20s. Maybe just have the 20s for shows. If you got say some...Enkei Rpf1s 15x7 weighing in at only 9.9 pounds, your car would seem alot faster id bet. Just a thought.
BrianxB 01-27-2006, 02:23 AM it is a good thought. if the car feels that much quicker to you while riding on dubs imagine the possibilities of lightweight wheels.
05_camo_boxb 01-27-2006, 02:33 AM when i had my 18's very heavy 18's then took em off and put the stock ones back on wholy cow i felt a big diff...the stock wheels felt like i was acclerating quicker but corners felt bad ..it would feel as if i were sliding ....i would def get some nice light weight wheels and then see how you like it..or just put the stock ones take it for a spin and let us know if its worth it...
BOXED_N 01-27-2006, 03:22 PM i WANT 1!!
That price form PR shop is awsome..
I just got my exhaust from Greddy..now I'm really thinking about boosting my ride....more pics..more pics!!
Rocket 01-27-2006, 10:12 PM I like my 20's however I have the Stock Tires and Wheels on right now for the snow and I can not tell a difference between the 20's and the stock wheels. My 20's are not that heavy the are alloy and not chrome. I did the Super Charger just to have something a little different from everyone else, I have a car with power if I need to go racing. Here are a few more pics of the Greddy Unit.
http://www.morethantires.com/i/Vehicles/Scharger_S.JPG
http://www.morethantires.com/i/Vehicles/Scharger_F.JPG
http://www.morethantires.com/i/Vehicles/Pulley.JPG
http://www.morethantires.com/i/Vehicles/Cooler_Kit.JPG
jallamas 01-27-2006, 10:25 PM That sure looks nice! Good job on the install nd have fun. Thanks for sharing.
John
dgHotLava 01-27-2006, 10:26 PM quick question...
is the SC driven off of the Alternator? (meaning the crank has a belt going to the Alt. then a different belt goes from the Alt to the SC...)
jwa276 01-27-2006, 11:15 PM it all runs off the same belt, which is powered by the crank- engine, alternator, a/c, and supercharger on the same one
-jon
Rocket 01-27-2006, 11:40 PM quick question...
is the SC driven off of the Alternator? (meaning the crank has a belt going to the Alt. then a different belt goes from the Alt to the SC...)
Yes It is Driven Off the alternator. You change the alt. Pulley it is a double pulley than you run a short belt to the Super Charger.
Rocket 01-27-2006, 11:46 PM it all runs off the same belt, which is powered by the crank- engine, alternator, a/c, and supercharger on the same one
-jon
Sorry But That is Wrong! When you install the super charger you than have two belts in the engine bay. I don't mean to be rude but I want people to have the right info.
dgHotLava 01-28-2006, 12:00 AM it all runs off the same belt, which is powered by the crank- engine, alternator, a/c, and supercharger on the same one
-jon
Sorry But That is Wrong! When you install the super charger you than have two belts in the engine bay. I don't mean to be rude but I want people to have the right info.
thanks. for ^^^
your set up is just like the PE300 kit...
i might want to look into gettin their belt tensioner. better than the one i have.
ProshopXB 01-28-2006, 09:57 PM Rocket got a few questions for yeah, did the SC come with a fuel pressure regulator( i think i see one on the back but wasnt sure) how does the emange system piggyback and were, also were did you put the brain for it, and last are you puting any guages in for it air/fuel, boost, etc.. Thanks i will be joing the SC auto very soon, just had these few questions, Thanks, B.
Rocket 01-29-2006, 08:47 PM ProshopXB, No the kit did not come with a fuel Reg. The piggyback computer just plugs in to the stock ECM I Zip Tied it to the bottom of the factory unit. ( I will try to get a pic if you would like) As far a gauges go Yes I am going to install a boost gauge (not sure where yet) I believe air/fuel gauges a worthless I would never trust one so no air fuel for me. If anything I my install a EGT gauge. Thanks!
BoogieQ 01-29-2006, 10:11 PM An EGT Gauge on a supercharged car is rather pointless as well, in my opinion... not a knock or anything.
That is a pretty dang clean setup. Do you have any contact information from where you purchased this kit? I'm trying to source the alternator pulley and belt for my own custom setup. Any info would be good.
xAlex 01-29-2006, 10:21 PM The piggyback computer just plugs in to the stock ECM I Zip Tied it to the bottom of the factory unit. ( I will try to get a pic if you would like)...
i'd like to see a pic if you could :D
seattleplasma 02-02-2006, 05:28 AM you installed this all on your own? do you have a exstensive knowledge because of your 1000hp drag rig? i am asking so i can try and figure out what it will run me if i pay some one else to do it.
Rocket 02-02-2006, 09:24 PM They are not hard to install at all the instuctions are very good. I would say if you can do minor repairs your self you could install the Greddy Super Charger. If we were to install it at our shop we would charge $ 500.00 Labor.
ProshopXB 02-09-2006, 02:31 AM So rocket hows the SC treating you, im still wondering about the fuel pressure regulator, are you worried about it not geeting enough fuel pressure or you think that it is 100% bolt on nothing else needed. I have people telling me that i should get the regulator, or i could detinate the engine(etc.). Thanks for any info and knowledge you can pass on. B.
Prototype_xB 02-09-2006, 01:49 PM get some dyno numbers!!!!!
Prototype_xB 02-09-2006, 01:56 PM Using stock injectors?? I looked up the kit and didn't see any larger ones included.
Here is some pic of my SC
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/snrscion/PICT0045.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/snrscion/DSCN1694.jpg
Rocket 02-10-2006, 10:42 PM I don't know about the fuel pressure, I assume that the Greddy Computer richens the fuel mixture at WOT but I do not know. I have had no Ping or Knock so far??? I may e-mail greedy and see if they anwser.
I work next door to Greddy and Mike over there trying to schedule a dino run at Greddy to see if the e-manage need to be adjusted.
ProshopXB 02-11-2006, 01:34 AM SNR are you using a fuel pressure regulator or any guages with your Greedy SC, is any body running a fuel pressure regulator or thought about upgrading the fuel pump. Ive read that people with the PE super charger had to add upgraded fuel pumps and fuel pressure regulators. So im just trying to get facts and opions on whats best. It's like to spend all the money on mods, and not mods and a new engine too, LoL. I know everybody's got to feel that way. So any info you and rocket can hand out would be great, since you have SC's in your b's already and have most likely done some good research. Thanks.
eight08customs 02-11-2006, 03:24 AM I work next door to Greddy and Mike over there trying to schedule a dino run at Greddy to see if the e-manage need to be adjusted.
my brotha Steve!!! i wish i could the swing my car next door to greddy and have it dynod and fine tuned?? LEt me know what happens..
I dont have no gueges or feul pres reg on mines.. it supposed to be tuned ready to go.. i dont think you need to raise the pressure unless your changing out the injectors. Mines runs fine as is but if greddy can fine tune it that would be great.. but in stuck here in hawaii..
eight08customs 02-11-2006, 03:26 AM Before
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3128.jpg
3 Hours Later
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3197.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3198.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3167.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3153.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3155.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3131.jpg
Emanage pre programed
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3080.jpg
Idler Pulleyhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3082.jpg
Alt Pulley
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3083.jpg
Main Comp E Manage Wire harness
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3085.jpg
Super Charger
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3086.jpg
Manifold
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3087.jpg
Inlet TB Manifold
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/eight08customs/Greddy%20Install/CIMG3088.jpg[/b]
I am running stock too, but maybe we need bigger injector.........I don't know I am a newbie at this.
hPower 02-11-2006, 08:20 PM Hey eight08customs, GREAT post man, those are very informative pics :clap: Congrats to all you guys with the SC, your engine bays all look very nice with those blowers in there :)
ProshopXB 02-11-2006, 08:44 PM Hey Rocket let me know what Greddy has to say about the fuel, if you email them and they answer back. Thanks man. B.
jwa276 02-13-2006, 04:55 AM sorry about the misinformation- and thanks for being nice about letting me know :-D
ProshopXB 02-21-2006, 12:02 AM Rocket you get a chance to email greddy about the fuel managment and wether it needs the fuel pressure regulator or if does send more fuel thru the emanage. Just wondering.Thanks.
eight08customs 02-21-2006, 07:28 AM sorry guys they didnt respond back to me yet
aireck 02-21-2006, 07:30 AM me want one....
ProshopXB 02-21-2006, 12:28 PM Darn greddy, you let us know if they do eightOeight, thanks.
All they said to me was to run a colder plug. IK16 is stock plug in the XB so I went up one stage IK20 and it seem to have more power in the butt dyno. I am looking in to bigger injector because our stock injector are 200cc and we need at least a 260cc injectors.
ProshopXB 02-22-2006, 12:32 AM A colder plug, please explain dummy here, haha. As for the injector, if you go bigger will you need a new fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator and bigger fuel pump....
I am no expert it like changing the timing in the car so the combustion will be better for the supercharger. I ask guys at TRD and they said the same thing. As far as the fuel injector I don't think I need new fuel rail, or pump. But then again I could be wrong. Like I said Iam not an expert at this.
hotbox05 02-22-2006, 07:36 AM if u want bigger injectors change out the rail. the pump and regulator should be fine.
BrianxB 02-22-2006, 02:50 PM use 00-05 Celica GTS injectors. They are 310cc and pop in easily.
use 00-05 Celica GTS injectors. They are 310cc and pop in easily.
I talk to a friend at TRD he said that will be a over kill 310cc is too much for xb engine.
ProshopXB 02-22-2006, 03:53 PM Colder plug= spark plugs, SNR, just wanted to make sure.
Colder plug= spark plugs, SNR, just wanted to make sure.
yes....spark plugs.
ProshopXB 02-22-2006, 04:10 PM So greddy only said to run a colder plug, and nothing else. I would agree about he bigger injectors and the fuel rail, and as long as it doesnt need a bigger pump and regulator thats fine by me, mor money to spend on other stuff.
Rocket 02-22-2006, 11:24 PM I still have not heard back from Greddy. I do like the idea of a colder Spark Plug. I know anytime I install a NOS kit I always go colder on the plugs.
eight08customs 02-23-2006, 12:23 AM Colder plugs becuase you are forcing more into the combustion chamber in which a less hotter spark is needed to fire the gases. it like a Deisal Eng. the comperssionis so high you dont need plugs.
Colder plugs becuase you are forcing more into the combustion chamber in which a less hotter spark is needed to fire the gases. it like a Deisal Eng. the comperssionis so high you dont need plugs.
Thanks for clearing that up Marshall I knew you know. I just got new High Performance injector from RC Engineering.
eight08customs 02-23-2006, 06:04 AM you did how much did they cost? and do you have to change the feul rail?
eight08customs 02-23-2006, 06:05 AM I just installed anouther Greddy SC in an Auto Lat weekend.. every one in hawaii want one now.. now I have to do somthing differant again..
really......... :bow: the injector with shipping and everything is 405.00 I just got them today and I don't have time to put them in yet. I should be able to use the stock rail I hope or I might have to buy the Perrin fuel rail.
Ethereal_Dragon 02-23-2006, 03:26 PM Looks nice... how about some pics of that fox body mustang you have hiding under the car cover? :)
ProshopXB 02-23-2006, 03:30 PM Anybody know if our injectors are low or high resistance? Snr i found those same injectors for way cheaper on some other sites and one even had free shipping, just thought i would let you know.
fugitiveALiEN 02-26-2006, 06:27 AM has anyone connected emanage to their laptop or "carputer" i'm wondering what kind of further tuning could be done, such as installing a wideband o2 sensor on the downpipe to ensure a tight tune to get the best power/mpg for the setup.
Also for the folks talking about the larger injector and fuel rail or regulators, etc how do you plan on further tuning the fuel flow? with emanage? an afc? just curious... i plan on installing this on an xA 8)
Rocket 02-26-2006, 02:39 PM Looks nice... how about some pics of that fox body mustang you have hiding under the car cover?
I have more pics of the xB, But I do have a few of the mustang.
http://www.morethantires.com/i//pigpen.jpg
http://www.morethantires.com/i/Vehicles/NOS1.JPG
http://www.morethantires.com/i/Vehicles/5Engine.JPG
ProshopXB 02-27-2006, 01:53 AM Holy cow now thats a motor, now if we could just find a way to fit it in the xB, LoL.
B2FiNiTY 02-27-2006, 07:47 AM If you do plan on putting larger injectors for your car, I would get it tuned properly so that it runs at optimal a/f ratios since the greddy preprogrammed emanage is not designed for larger injectors.
ProshopXB 02-27-2006, 12:21 PM So what do you need to program the emanage correctly or how do you?
hotbox05 02-27-2006, 07:30 PM it's a ford motor tho it'll stop runnin on the way to teh track.
Simplyscion 02-27-2006, 11:09 PM If you plan on putting bigger injectors you hafta tune it...no ifs ands or buts about it. If you dont tune it the only thing you will get is a PO172 code(system rich bank 1) and a rough idle. The injectors wont do anything differently than stock unless you tell them to.
As far as the RC injectors, you will need the Perrin fuel rail, and you will also need to machine the head of the injectors to fit the rail, as well as getting pigtail clips for the injector harness unless RC finally came out with a plug and play version for the 1nz wich I highly doubt. A lot of work if you ask me. Whoever said that the 2zz injectors were to much obviously hasn't boosted one of these cars. They are no where overkill for a boosted application, especially when the max fuel pressure is at 55 psi with the in tank regulator, and no external fuel pressure regulator is gonn allow you to exceed that 55 psi max.
As far as plugs go, run a copper plug 1-2 steps colder depending on what kind of boost you are running, and also gap them to .025
Rocket 02-28-2006, 10:26 PM it's a ford motor tho it'll stop runnin on the way to teh track.
Please don't bash Ford to my face, at least do it behind my back.
hotbox05 03-01-2006, 09:20 PM too late
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