will 16's fit over the factory brakes?
smaller rims are lighter and the rubber is cheaper. stock power isnt enough to justify such large rims, they are just there for looks.
these would just be for the track, i already have 18's for daily driving.
these would just be for the track, i already have 18's for daily driving.
Nerek, the 16"s are for track use. The tires for 16" wheels cost less, for one, and they also help with acceleration. Please know what you're talking about before you comment.
16" wheels won't handle better than 17" wheels as the increased side wall isn't condusive to handling. It does help a lot with acceleration.
The reason for this is stated in the law of conservation of angular momentum. The further out the forces needs to apply to, the lower the velocity. By keeping the mass in the center, velocity will be higher.
16" steelies were put on the Scion tuner concept which is basically a tC with 16s and a solid glass roof (no opening. ) I assume they'll fit.
16" wheels won't handle better than 17" wheels as the increased side wall isn't condusive to handling. It does help a lot with acceleration.
The reason for this is stated in the law of conservation of angular momentum. The further out the forces needs to apply to, the lower the velocity. By keeping the mass in the center, velocity will be higher.
16" steelies were put on the Scion tuner concept which is basically a tC with 16s and a solid glass roof (no opening. ) I assume they'll fit.
Is it that sad to have 16's for street? The tires are sooooooooooooooooooooo much cheaper, and as you said provide better acceleration, another added benefit would be the increase in ride comfort. you'd get a much smoother ride.
Im looking to buy my tC in a few months, and am fairly certain I want to get the TRD lowering springs. Im not comfortable dropping the money on rims, because Id have a lot of other things that I would want to do with it, primarily in the interior + audio and tinting.
Just wondering, whats the general wear and tear mileage on the stock tires or lets say an upgraded yokahoma's.
I'm personally into having fun on the curves.
Im looking to buy my tC in a few months, and am fairly certain I want to get the TRD lowering springs. Im not comfortable dropping the money on rims, because Id have a lot of other things that I would want to do with it, primarily in the interior + audio and tinting.
Just wondering, whats the general wear and tear mileage on the stock tires or lets say an upgraded yokahoma's.
I'm personally into having fun on the curves.
you guys who down on 16 inch rims for daily driving really dont know much on what was stated above about momentum, accelertation, ratating mass and handling. Please i cannot stress this enough do the research on why people go smaller then 17s. faster acceleration,smaller rim with a slightly bigger tire for more comfort and less harsh bumps, improved rim weights, overal gearing and transfer of power, and saying that handling decreases on 16s vs 17s because of size and tire are wrong. you can have an equally wide 16inch as a 17inch tire and be the same. who ever has the 16s will be faster because of the things mentioned above. for looks 18+ for performance 17-16 on a tc as anything smaller will not help your traction at all. plus it will look bad being such a small rim and tire.
function > form ... anyone who understands true performance would know that, not a show car or trailer queen on the biggest rims he can tuck under his wheel well will.
i personally would stick with 17s on the tc. you can go 18 but i wouldnt unless you have the power to push the lag you will suffer for such a biigger rim.
16s will fit on the tc also.
function > form ... anyone who understands true performance would know that, not a show car or trailer queen on the biggest rims he can tuck under his wheel well will.
i personally would stick with 17s on the tc. you can go 18 but i wouldnt unless you have the power to push the lag you will suffer for such a biigger rim.
16s will fit on the tc also.
Consider the meaning of RICE. For this discussion I will just assume "Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement."
Also, let's assume daily driving does not involved slalom type driving nor does it require a good RT, ET, and trap speed.
Now why do we need true performance on the daily driver? I completely agree that 16"s on the track car is a great investment as, like I mentioned, lower radius is greature velocity as in the function of momentum, the two are inversely related.
Ok, with the aforementioned assumption, any ostensible performance mods can probably be considered cosmetic only. These performance mods are also, obviously, race inspired. Therefore, smaller rims for the express purpose of increasing accleration on a daily driver can be considered RICE in the definition I gave.
Now, for all I know, a tC can look good in 16" wheels. I've never seen a tC running 16" that aren't steelies. However, the 17"s already look pretty small on the tC so I think going smaller will look even worse.
It could look bad, but 16" wheels are definitely an improvement to acceleration. Again, this is the daily driver we're talking about.
Also, let's assume daily driving does not involved slalom type driving nor does it require a good RT, ET, and trap speed.
Now why do we need true performance on the daily driver? I completely agree that 16"s on the track car is a great investment as, like I mentioned, lower radius is greature velocity as in the function of momentum, the two are inversely related.
Ok, with the aforementioned assumption, any ostensible performance mods can probably be considered cosmetic only. These performance mods are also, obviously, race inspired. Therefore, smaller rims for the express purpose of increasing accleration on a daily driver can be considered RICE in the definition I gave.
Now, for all I know, a tC can look good in 16" wheels. I've never seen a tC running 16" that aren't steelies. However, the 17"s already look pretty small on the tC so I think going smaller will look even worse.
It could look bad, but 16" wheels are definitely an improvement to acceleration. Again, this is the daily driver we're talking about.
just because it has less rotational mass, doesnt mean it will handle better, typically there would be less of a contact patch on the road, thus less grip, and thus worse handling (not much mind you, but still)
im thinking about doing this 16" wheel thing for autox. and then getting another set of 17s or 18s for street. probably 17s. i like the way it sits, since ive seen friends with 18s on their tcs, and it looks more aggressive with 17s i think.
just stick with 17's, no need to go smaller, their is a reason why manufacturers choose the size they do, because they believe that it is the best for performance/looks.
im plan to do alot of auto-x'ing, track(road course), and canyon runs in my tC so that is why i plan to go with a 17x8 inch rim with a 245/40 tire. if you want to handle better, dont go for the diameter, go for the width
im plan to do alot of auto-x'ing, track(road course), and canyon runs in my tC so that is why i plan to go with a 17x8 inch rim with a 245/40 tire. if you want to handle better, dont go for the diameter, go for the width
well, the rim size doesnt always dictate the total diameter of the wheel. our 17s have low profile tires. but often 16's dont. they're thicker. its really a matter of lightening the wheels.





