I want to get some blk lug nuts...................does it matter what size or if I find some online will they fit my car? Just wondering...............murrays didn't have any :loser:

most aftermarket wheels will need tuner lug nuts. they have thinner walla so they slip into the hole.

If you see gorilla lug nuts, dont buy them. They came with my Enkeis from tires.com. Every lug nut is a locking nut that uses its own socket that has a weird design. Well on the third wheel second lug, the socket snaped. I had to go and get lugs so I copuld get the last wheel on. Then i had the socket welded and am scared to try and take the gorillas off. If i get a flat i am screwed.

So deffinetly dont buy gorillas.

^^^ Wow that's scary, I was just looking a these, then your post^^^

BLACK TUNER LUG NUTS GORILLA NEW ALL 12MM 1.5 ECLIPSE Item number: 8032763941

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Any special size? I bet this would be somewhere in the tech section........... I'll look but just wondering.............. been online bout ten hours today, way too long without typing, just clicking the mouse

hold a sec and i will go see the numbers on the ones I couldnt get on

Ok Gorilla M12x1.5 on it. Here are pics of the stock on the left. They dont fit on my enkei wheels. The Gorilla in the middle, came with the wheels. And the ones from Advance autoparts on the right.

You can see how tall the gorilla socket is, and how thin the sidewall is. The pressure couldnt be handled. It is welded best it can be.

On the right are Dorman M12-1.50 tuner wheel lock kit. part number 711-345. Cost 29.99 at advance autoparts. Their lug fits in the lugnut and that also helps to keep from scratching the rim.

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12mmx1.5 is the size you need. if you have aftermarket wheels, make sure it has a conical seat.
www.summitracing.com for a pretty good selection of lugs.

Will Muteki lugs fit?
http://store.racinglab.com/musutunuclen.html
http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/racinglab_1882_246851561.jpg

the cheap crappy nuts will bust or the socket will crack. if you got the cash get rays lugnuts. very light and strong and they come with a locknut. total, you get 2 sockets 4 locknuts and 16 lugnuts.
they come in black, red or blue. $110 shipped reg $127 shipped extended duranuts.
reg, nuts
http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/honda-techspecial.jpg
extended duranuts.
http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/honda-techspecial2.jpg
i had a post on how to get them at a good price.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=66516&highlight=rays+lugnuts
on my car:
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i have muteki lugs on mines. its been okay so far. but im looking to upgrade to volk soon when i have $. as long as you dont overtorque them and you have the right thread size, you should be okay with muteki

i have rays extended lugs. only 4 of them are actual keys. the rest can be removed with a standard socket tools. i wish rays had made the whole set as locks.

Geez,,,,,,,,,, I didn't know lugnuts were so confusing? They just screw left to right, I've had a skrew get locked on somehting of mine once :eyebrow: , I can't remember but it was a pain. Oh........two cars ago. Anywayz....................stocks are 20x35mm?

And why are there so many in a package, its enough for six vehicles in all these packages............whats up with that?

Ok Gorilla M12x1.5 on it. Here are pics of the stock on the left. They dont fit on my enkei wheels. The Gorilla in the middle, came with the wheels. And the ones from Advance autoparts on the right.

You can see how tall the gorilla socket is, and how thin the sidewall is. The pressure couldnt be handled. It is welded best it can be.

What were you trying to torque them down to? You should never use an impact wrench on lugs.

Ok Gorilla M12x1.5 on it. Here are pics of the stock on the left. They dont fit on my enkei wheels. The Gorilla in the middle, came with the wheels. And the ones from Advance autoparts on the right.

You can see how tall the gorilla socket is, and how thin the sidewall is. The pressure couldnt be handled. It is welded best it can be.

What were you trying to torque them down to? You should never use an impact wrench on lugs.

This was simple tightening with the lug wrench that the scion comes with. Its not nearly long enough to exert that much torque to break a socket. But it broke the socket.

My dad is an engineer. When I had him take it to work to weld it he couldnt believe how thin the walls of the socket were. The pics dont show it to well.

Geez,,,,,,,,,, I didn't know lugnuts were so confusing? They just screw left to right, I've had a skrew get locked on somehting of mine once :eyebrow: , I can't remember but it was a pain. Oh........two cars ago. Anywayz....................stocks are 20x35mm?

And why are there so many in a package, its enough for six vehicles in all these packages............whats up with that?

for the tC there should be 20 in a pack. 5 lugs per tire, 4 tires.

Ok Gorilla M12x1.5 on it. Here are pics of the stock on the left. They dont fit on my enkei wheels. The Gorilla in the middle, came with the wheels. And the ones from Advance autoparts on the right.

You can see how tall the gorilla socket is, and how thin the sidewall is. The pressure couldnt be handled. It is welded best it can be.

What were you trying to torque them down to? You should never use an impact wrench on lugs.

This was simple tightening with the lug wrench that the scion comes with. Its not nearly long enough to exert that much torque to break a socket. But it broke the socket.

My dad is an engineer. When I had him take it to work to weld it he couldnt believe how thin the walls of the socket were. The pics dont show it to well.


Interesting, the wrench I got with my Guerilla lugs is pretty normal sized and hasn't had any problems.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c25/nick120580/IMG_5378.jpg
this is the better type of wheel lock to have. other lock designs, where the key covers the outside of the lug, can removed by hammering a deep standard socket over it (like the mutekis, rays lugs, gorillas, mcgards, etc)

Ok Gorilla M12x1.5 on it. Here are pics of the stock on the left. They dont fit on my enkei wheels. The Gorilla in the middle, came with the wheels. And the ones from Advance autoparts on the right.

You can see how tall the gorilla socket is, and how thin the sidewall is. The pressure couldnt be handled. It is welded best it can be.

What were you trying to torque them down to? You should never use an impact wrench on lugs.

This was simple tightening with the lug wrench that the scion comes with. Its not nearly long enough to exert that much torque to break a socket. But it broke the socket.

My dad is an engineer. When I had him take it to work to weld it he couldnt believe how thin the walls of the socket were. The pics dont show it to well.


Interesting, the wrench I got with my Guerilla lugs is pretty normal sized and hasn't had any problems.

Was your socket the same as the one I showed in the pictures?

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c25/nick120580/IMG_5378.jpg
this is the better type of wheel lock to have. other lock designs, where the key covers the outside of the lug, can removed by hammering a deep standard socket over it (like the mutekis, rays lugs, gorillas, mcgards, etc)

Yeah it is deffinetly a better desing. I am much happier with it.
My dad was telling me that if I cant get the lugs off to go buy a bunch of cheap sockets one size to small. And hammer them on and take them off. One shot each socket but it will get them off.
He also told me of reverse thread sockets, but they are expensive i guess.

i have muteki lugs on mines. its been okay so far. but im looking to upgrade to volk soon when i have $. as long as you dont overtorque them and you have the right thread size, you should be okay with muteki

What's wrong with the Muteki's? Overtorquing them will break 'em or something?

Ok Gorilla M12x1.5 on it. Here are pics of the stock on the left. They dont fit on my enkei wheels. The Gorilla in the middle, came with the wheels. And the ones from Advance autoparts on the right.

You can see how tall the gorilla socket is, and how thin the sidewall is. The pressure couldnt be handled. It is welded best it can be.

What were you trying to torque them down to? You should never use an impact wrench on lugs.

This was simple tightening with the lug wrench that the scion comes with. Its not nearly long enough to exert that much torque to break a socket. But it broke the socket.

My dad is an engineer. When I had him take it to work to weld it he couldnt believe how thin the walls of the socket were. The pics dont show it to well.


Interesting, the wrench I got with my Guerilla lugs is pretty normal sized and hasn't had any problems.

Was your socket the same as the one I showed in the pictures?

The pictures you have are a little blurry but it looks like your socket is black and has a couple of nuts on the bottom of it? Mine looks more like a standard socket and mounts straight to any 3/8" ratchet or torque wrench. If it makes any difference mine came with my OZ wheels.

the things that look like nutes is where it fits into the lug wrench. mine was alot longer than a normal socket. But anyway...It broke. Not air gun no breaker bar, just my arms turning the Scion Lugwrench. I must be strong...

Bizarre, mine is it's own lug socket as opposed to a socket that fits inside another socket.

for the tC there should be 20 in a pack. 5 lugs per tire, 4 tires.
Math, snuck up on me again. :nope: I'm a runnaway. Got a teachers note to go to the bathroom in 7th grade, never came back!

:come: Math aint gonna catch me this time........................................... :silly:

any body make green lugs? anodized?

off set [mm (in.)] 45 (1.8)
lug nut size [mm] 12 x 1.5

Will these fit? I wanted black luggnuts over my black 17 stocks........(that I plan on painting once the weather gets over 60)
http://infinitipa.zoovy.com/product/KYO30885B

off set [mm (in.)] 45 (1.8)
lug nut size [mm] 12 x 1.5

Will these fit? I wanted black luggnuts over my black 17 stocks........(that I plan on painting once the weather gets over 60)
http://infinitipa.zoovy.com/product/KYO30885B

do not buy those. the metal is soft and they start to get rounded-out with each use, and eventually strip.
search for Muteki's which are made by the same manufacturer, but with a different lock design. slightly heavier because of harder metal construction.

off set [mm (in.)] 45 (1.8)
lug nut size [mm] 12 x 1.5

Will these fit? I wanted black luggnuts over my black 17 stocks........(that I plan on painting once the weather gets over 60)
http://infinitipa.zoovy.com/product/KYO30885B

do not buy those. the metal is soft and they start to get rounded-out with each use, and eventually strip.
search for Muteki's which are made by the same manufacturer, but with a different lock design. slightly heavier because of harder metal construction.

i have these on my car now and i had them on a previous one also. i have also heard many stories about the trouble they can cause...broken keysand so on. the key is not as hard as the lug nut causing it to break before the nut when overtorqued. but in my opinion, they are excellent lugs, you just have to use them properly. never use an impact wrench and never over torque them and you should be fine. be sure the key is completely flush so you do strip the sides. but never overtorque them, thats why there are 5 lugs, 5x78=390ft/lbs per wheel...good luck

^^ that's for the heads up. Only reason I was looking at these was because If you spray paint the lugs, the will probaby be stripped silver again once ya put the wheels back on (manually) but if its soft metal, I think I may just spray paint the lugs on the facs with a little shot of spray again after I do the rotation.

Is everything aftermarket, going to f up something, geesh.. Thx

There is a reason the removal tool is so thin. Alot of aftermarket wheels today have VERY small lug holes in them. The socket is made to fit inside the lug hole on any wheel. It is also designed to be weaker then the lugnut so that it fails before the lugnut, if it wasn't, you could have an unremovable nut from being stripped out on the outside. The designer figured you would rather the key get damaged then the nut which is perfectly logical. A few members above mentioned the inner spined lug nuts are a better design. They could not be more wrong for 2 reasons. One reason is because the center hole collects water and dirt and causes rust in the worst place. Second reason is because the nut will split before the removal tool breaks creating an unremovable nut.

so most of these lug nuts say they are for use with aftermarket wheel. Is there any good lug nutz I can use with the stock wheels?

WOW!!!


http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EM&Product_Code=TITEK_SPDLG

this is nice!!!!!! the hole of my wheel is soooooo small the only lug nut would fit is this:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c25/nick120580/IMG_5378.jpg

this tuner lug has no bulky head and the lug goes inside ( no lug would fit around the lug nut because of the tight hole)

but that titek looks cool.. i might be able to use the regular lug... well.. my tuner lug is only 1.27 inch long.. and it doesnt stick out from the hole ( the hole is like 1.3 deep) but that mitek is like 2.3 inch long!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!! 100 for the 20 pcs.. i dont care..........




20pcs BLUE 5Zigen Lug nuts for sale!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAND NEW never installed!!!!!!!!!!!! ( they wont fit because they have the bulkyhead)
pm me for pice !!!! ( it was $150!!!)

so most of these lug nuts say they are for use with aftermarket wheel. Is there any good lug nutz I can use with the stock wheels?

The reason for this is because the factory wheels have "sleeved" lugs. Meaning they go into the wheel. I don't remember the technical term for it and don't feel like looking it up. After market wheels have a tapered seat and require tapered lugs. I don't see anything wrong with the lug nuts you are using and it would be hard to find custom colored ones.

EDIT: You can use either type of tuner lug with small lug holes. the ones with outer splines have a tool same size as the other type of lug. They both fit the same size hole.

good hey told me that titek speed lugs wont fit.. i need the inverted tuner lug nuts
:(((((((((((((((((( =does anyone knows where can i get some nice ones? i seen some on ebay and autozone but they are UGLY :((((

im rolling with these... http://hopupracing.com/5zproralugnu.html

http://www.autocarparts.com/images/vehicles/1652_1.gif

in gunmetal - i definitely recommend them they're right up there with Volks in terms of quality (a tad more $ too). good price through hopupracing.com

^^^^^ this is what im selling.. brand new.. blue ones!! never installed.. PM ME FOR PRICE!!!

im rolling with these... http://hopupracing.com/5zproralugnu.html

http://www.autocarparts.com/images/vehicles/1652_1.gif

in gunmetal - i definitely recommend them they're right up there with Volks in terms of quality (a tad more $ too). good price through hopupracing.com

You're not running these with stock wheels are you? The topic owner is asking for lug nuts for his STOCK wheels.

no.. he cant run on thos with stock wheels........................

no.. he cant run on thos with stock wheels........................

Running them on stock wheels isn't the problem. Them falling off or/and really damaging the wheel would be the problem! :rofl: That is considering he found some way to force em into the lug holes in the first place! :nails:

^ nah not with stock wheels, sorry didn't see that

so all these aftermarket lug nuts wouldn't work on the stockies we have?