View Full Version : Forged pistons and Connecting rods for 1NZ-FE
Yaris_WRC 01-30-2006, 12:42 PM Here is some pics for you forced induction fans.
its my forged pistons and rods for the 1NZ-FE that will be going into my Toyota Yaris. But we use the same engine so its all relevant.
the pistons are 8.5:1 CR
(im from the UK)
Price for pistons was £500 and price for rods was £1000.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/446000-446999/446393_122_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/446000-446999/446393_123_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/446000-446999/446393_106_full.jpg
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Eddy2006 01-30-2006, 04:14 PM Where can I buy these parts, I checked the Arias piston website and the Carrillo rod site and could not find a yaris part number. Are these custom made or just sold in the UK? Also the price you gave was that in British pounds? How much is that in US dollars.
Yaris_WRC 01-30-2006, 05:29 PM Both pistons and rods were custom made, they wont be listed on the websites.
But im sure if you called them up asked, they would still have the designs stored on computer. This means you wouldnt have to send any original parts from your engine away.
Both companies are in the USA.
Prices in Dollars are:
Pistons $883 Connecting Rods $1766
BoogieQ 01-30-2006, 05:49 PM Geebus on the price batman! Pretty sweet though. I really wish we had better information on the 'rod failures' everyone here claims occur all the time with boost, but I have yet to see good hard information that says the rod failed on it's own, and not that a horrible tune caused the rod to fail.
Xbilly 01-31-2006, 12:42 AM Our rod are forged, but that new rod looks way beefy...
that is pretty low compression, what is your target psi?
glamdrig2000 01-31-2006, 01:14 AM do thy make one with our standard compression? I have a supercharer on mine and I dont really wanna change the compression I just want a little more security.
Yaris_WRC 01-31-2006, 12:51 PM my target psi is 18psi daily.
I dont think they make them in 10.5:1 CR its usually Higher compression for N/a or else lower compression but rarely would they make forged pistons in the same Ratio.
BoogieQ 01-31-2006, 02:00 PM Does the Yaris use the same transmission as the xA/B? If so, have you done anything to it or have reason to believe it is strong enough to hold?
Yaris_WRC 01-31-2006, 06:41 PM i think the scion has longer gears. I have a set of TRD gear ratios, not sure if they use these ratios in the TRD yaris Turbos.
Im not even sure if the TRD units are any stronger than standard gears. I got the TRD gears because they were longer ratios, and im hoping they are a bit stronger.
i have a TRD clutch and clutch plate as well if thats what you were asking about.
BoogieQ 01-31-2006, 08:45 PM Well, I have heard of a few trans failures under boost on these cars. I am trying to figure out WHAT broke but nobody has the info (of course)... so if you are confident your unit will hold with the power you will make using forged internals, then that gives me some good hope :)
I was more asking of the strength of the materials used, not so much the gears.. things like the drive shafts, whatever differential is used, input shaft, gears, shafts the gears ride on, syncros, etc.
How much power do you plan to make? How much HAVE you made? sorry for so many questions!
BoogieQ 01-31-2006, 08:46 PM Also, how much were the longer gears and did you install them yourself? Hard to do? (I've built engines and such before, I can do most anything but have yet to crack a transmission open.)
Yaris_WRC 01-31-2006, 11:11 PM im more than happy to answer your questions.
well as for drive shafts etc i will see what happens when the time comes. no i havnt put the TRD gears in yet and the mechanic will be doing that.
I will have to check the invoice on them to find out the price, i should have them with me by the weekend, there sitting at the suppliers at moment.
the most i can manage is working on 2 strokes, strinping them down but the most adventurous thing i did was open the tranny on an auto, motorised scooter :nails:
so im far from a mechanic.
I can really say how much power i plan to make, i suppose i would be happy with 200hp at the wheels
BoogieQ 02-01-2006, 08:37 PM Thanks for taking the time to reply! This community will only advance with open honesty and people with mucho money to test things out for us poor people! :)
I'd like to know how the gears work out for you when they are in. Do you know what ratios they are compared to stock? I am a fan of a longer gear than a bunch of short ones, provided the power is there to keep it going.
Yaris_WRC 02-02-2006, 12:59 AM This might be of some help :bow:
http://trdparts.jp/english/list_race-mis_ncp13.html
i went for the 3.772
BoogieQ 02-02-2006, 02:28 AM NICE. So are we fairly certain that the Yaris, Vitz, and xA/xB use the same transmission?
How much did the gears cost in US$? Also, do you have any pics and info on your ride?
Yaris_WRC 02-02-2006, 02:17 PM I think the gears work out at $480 that would probably include shipping and and TAX.
the list price on the web site is cheaper but then they are in japan.
im wuld like to think the transmissions are the same, it would make financial sense if toyota were using the same engine to also use the same transmission housing etc, just different ratios on the Scions.
I have a car domain site
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/446393
BoogieQ 02-03-2006, 04:11 AM That's a pretty nice car dude. Looks like a lot of fun! :)
Xbilly 02-03-2006, 04:41 AM I like your old car too!
Djbombsquad 02-10-2006, 04:22 AM What is this supposed to do to our xb?
DarkBoxJr 02-10-2006, 06:08 PM What is this supposed to do to our xb?
Make the engine less like a grenade under boost.
xAlex 02-25-2006, 09:15 PM bump
hotbox05 02-25-2006, 11:44 PM this motor 18psi. are you high? that's crazy if it doesnt blow up through the hood.
superbiker 02-28-2006, 07:01 AM I dont know alot about the car world but in the motorcycle world
the carrillo rods are used in alot of drag turbo Busas and GSXR1000's
if any thing could withstand the 18psi boost its the forged carrillo
rods. now you might have other failures, but its not going to be the rods or pistons.
NeoXa 03-11-2006, 11:43 PM Any motor can take boost, specially if your going to change everything from stock. It's more then possible if your doing that.
PWXBnMN 03-19-2006, 03:11 PM the carillo rods are the original H beam rod. These are the best rods can get if you're money is right. The supra guys swear by carillos
also, the TRD ring gear and pinion set lowers your final drive ratio...which in turn will slow down your acceleration. That would suck badly
black2doorecho1nz 03-20-2006, 01:32 AM I have info on piston and rods for 1nz-fe just go to www.importperformanceparts.net go to the HP engine kits toyota then scroll to 1nz-fe. Kit includes--complete gasket set.--performance MLS head gasket--Ross or wiseco forged pistons in the stock [75mm or 75.5 or76mm]and in [8.5/9/9.5/10] comp ratio.--Plasma moly rings--TOGA Hp main bearings--TOGA Hprod bearings--and Thrust washers. kit goes for 969.00. For rod pricing Email them at info@importperformanceparts.net
black2doorecho1nz 03-20-2006, 03:16 AM you might also be intrested in the EL prototypes block guard
PWXBnMN 03-21-2006, 12:52 AM contact Wil at www.exospeed.com for carillo and arias pistons. He is a master distributor for both
brownKIDDnate 03-21-2006, 01:22 AM I have info on piston and rods for 1nz-fe just go to www.importperformanceparts.net go to the HP engine kits toyota then scroll to 1nz-fe. Kit includes--complete gasket set.--performance MLS head gasket--Ross or wiseco forged pistons in the stock [75mm or 75.5 or76mm]and in [8.5/9/9.5/10] comp ratio.--Plasma moly rings--TOGA Hp main bearings--TOGA Hprod bearings--and Thrust washers. kit goes for 969.00. For rod pricing Email them at info@importperformanceparts.net
those might look like a winner when it comes to an affordable forged internal set safe enough to run some extra pounds of boost. you get about everything you need for under a grand. just ogtta disassemble the engie and get all the goodies in
black2doorecho1nz 03-21-2006, 03:11 AM On the fuel delivery side of forced induction check out the synapse engineering SYNCHRONIC F.P.R. it has adjustable boost dependent ratio from 1:1 to 12:1 and adjusts static pressure from 16psi up. They have returnless applications in development .They also have universal one's for anyone adding a return line. I belive this will help solve some of the fuel delivery issues attributed to bad computer tuning. For larger injector's turn the static pressure down so as not to throw those D.T.C.'s from running ritch at low speed. Very flexable tuning tool but for best results it's a good idea to use a wide band A/F ratio meter for fine tuning.www.synapseengineering.com
xAlex 01-08-2007, 09:49 PM i live for the bump... since this topic seems to be propping back up, why not...
Yaris_WRC 01-09-2007, 03:23 PM the carillo rods are the original H beam rod. These are the best rods can get if you're money is right. The supra guys swear by carillos
also, the TRD ring gear and pinion set lowers your final drive ratio...which in turn will slow down your acceleration. That would suck badly
The ratios at the min are kind of usless, in first it only lasts about 2 seconds and with small wheels and short ratios, wheel spin and hop becomes a problem, making the short gearing usless as you dont get the most out of it, i feel.
when the turbo goes on the car will have lots of power and make the short ratios even more usless, so thats why i went for the longer TRD ones, to try and get more pulling time out of them. its not like they are hugely different. so i wont even notice it as i will have made the car more powerfull and in the end get more use of the power.
a quick update. The Arias pistons i got were just a little to small for a used block. they would only be good on a practically brand new block with no wear, i dunno why Arias didnt make them a little oversized.
Any way i had to get 4 custom made liners for the block. and the engine should have begun to get built but the mechanic dropped on of the liners and broke it :tap:
this was just before christmas, so with the holiday period and new year lazy syndrome the new liner has still not arrived yet. once that comes things can start again.
rollhard 01-11-2007, 08:17 PM If anyone is interested.
http://raceprecision.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51
julioxcorexA 08-04-2007, 05:36 AM finally, i just started building my old motor (1nz)
finding things here and there
does anyone know the cam specs of if someone makes cams for the 1nz yet? pm me if you know of conecting rods, sleaves, cranks. ect...
i hear that 1nz can push a good amount but everyone is telling me the block cant take it. if this is so imma swap, something good =] probly be the 1st one here in the states to do it
Steve60 08-08-2007, 08:40 PM Making 200 at the wheels is quite a feat for these 1500s, I applaud your effort.
The internals you have is a great start. After the rods & pistons, where are you wanting to go?
autopainter13 08-08-2007, 10:42 PM finally, i just started building my old motor (1nz)
finding things here and there
does anyone know the cam specs of if someone makes cams for the 1nz yet? pm me if you know of conecting rods, sleaves, cranks. ect...
i hear that 1nz can push a good amount but everyone is telling me the block cant take it. if this is so imma swap, something good =] probly be the 1st one here in the states to do it
everything is custom order for our cars.
awdisuzu 08-15-2007, 03:16 PM dmmit, I wish these had an iron block. I make 450+ at the wheels in my 1.6 isuzu motor. I'd LOOOVVVEEE to see that in my xa!
julioxcorexA 08-15-2007, 10:31 PM Dang. I was hoping at least some things were made for this engine.
Also
If you guys know anyone that has built this motor. Pm me there info I want to know what they did. Didn't do, what they got out of it. Ect....
If nothin else works imma swap
That's my last resort
julioxcorexA 08-15-2007, 10:31 PM Dang. I was hoping at least some things were made for this engine.
Also
If you guys know anyone that has built this motor. Pm me there info I want to know what they did. Didn't do, what they got out of it. Ect....
If nothin else works imma swap
That's my last resort
rollhard 08-21-2007, 03:01 AM Dang. I was hoping at least some things were made for this engine.
Also
If you guys know anyone that has built this motor. Pm me there info I want to know what they did. Didn't do, what they got out of it. Ect....
If nothin else works imma swap
That's my last resort
I built my motor. We have had parts available for this engine for some time. People are just not willing to pay for them. :P
earpl 10-22-2007, 05:59 PM BUMP!
anyone who was wondering what happend to these nice shiny internals..............i bought them off nick about 8 months ago and put them in my greddy turbo'd yaris :) 145whp at 8psi........... anyway......... last week took the car down the strip and due to a bit of pre-det this happened.........
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5964/piston006pm1.jpg
soooooo where in the US can i get another set of forged pistons?? oh and the greddy turbo will run 18'psi without boost spikes :)
Steve60 10-22-2007, 10:57 PM too much ign, not enough fuel. how does the cylinder look? And do all 4 pistons look the same? You could look at Jans or CP for new pistons...maybe TRW forged
microbg 11-10-2009, 11:52 PM hello there guys, im trying to get some internals for my engine...
i have a scion xD boosting 8 pounds but want more. and want to run safe.
i have a 2ZR-FE Engine.
walter5876 11-11-2012, 09:50 PM Hi Yaris WRC,
could you tell me where you've bought your turbo manifold, which flange does it have and the price you 've paid for it?
I'm planning to buy by myself all the engine parts to turbocharge my Yaris TS and i like this manifold. Could you make me know the other parts used to boost your Yaris?
Thank you.
Regards.
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