We at Sound Performance are proud to offer for sale our SP TC Turbo Kit. This is one of the nicest kits on the market. This is a full bolt on kit that will come with instructions and all parts needed. We will be offering a stage 1 stage 2 and a Tuner Kit. At this time the Stage 1 is the only available kit. We are testing the other 2 kits at this time. The stage 1 turbo kit will come with the following parts standard in the kit.

SP TC 32 Turbo (non ball bearing)
Tubular Stainless Steel Turbo Header
Delphi 440cc Injectors with clips
SP TC Front mount intercooler with pipes (bolt on no cutting the bumper)
SP TC Complete return fuel system
Fuel system includes
All high pressure line
All a/n fittings needed
Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
Liquid filled pressure gauge
Fuel Rail with return fitting welded on
Tial 38mm waste gate with a 7lb spring
Turbo XS blow off valve
Apex Safc II (black or silver)
Ceramic Coated - Manifold/down pipe/turbo (hot side)
Powder Coated - Intercooler pipes and Air Intake Pipe(any color)
Polished-Turbo (compressor housing)
Oil Pan with fitting welded in
Oil Return line with fittings
Oil Supply line with fittings
Stock fuel pressure regulator welded closed
All couplers and clamps
AEM 3in Dry flow filter
NGK Spark Plugs
Retail price-$4999.00
Scion Life price-$4500.00
Special for the first 10 kits ordered-$4150.00

The up-grade options for the kit are

SP TC 32R dual ball bearing turbo with water lines $450.00
Stainless Steel fuel lines-$75.00
AEM Uego wide band gauge-$299
Chrome intercooler pipes and air intake-$325.00 (that includes all intercooler pipes)
Fiberglass glove box mount for SAFC and uego-$200 (painted to match car)
Apex turbo timer-$109.95
Auto Meter boost gauge-$59.95 (black-white-silver)
We will also offer a $125.00 credit for your old oil pan,fuel rail, pressure regulator

The car has no check engine lights and drives like stock. The blow off valve is vented open and the car does not stall at all. The kit makes 260hp at the wheels and 280 foot pounds of torque on 7lbs of boost. I will have video very soon...

Here are some pics of the kit. This is the ball bearing turbo with the chrome pipe and stainless lines option...


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Ooooo, I think that's one of the nicest turbo gettups for the tC I've ever seen!

Wow that is a beautiful kit.....can't wait to see a video clip!

Wow that is a beautiful kit.....can't wait to see a video clip!

I will have one very soon. I have 10 manifolds in stock and I am ready to start building kits...

wow wow wow

that kit is truely all go and show to boot, the fuel set-up, the piping LUCKY


Kudos parts pimp and SP

wow wow wow

that kit is truely all go and show to boot, the fuel set-up, the piping LUCKY


Kudos parts pimp and SP

Thank you for the kudos. I just cant wait to start shipping them out and seeing alot of tc's with our kit on them...The car is so fun to drive with the turbo I might just go buy one for a daily driver...

SAFC Pre tuned? Or is that up to the end user?

so if i place an order now, when can i expect to receive the kit?

I think I just came. That is sexxxxxy! :love:

ohhhh that's pretty...... maybe after i pay off the car, lol

so if i place an order now, when can i expect to receive the kit?

SP please don't be like ZPI! :rofl:

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The gauge under the hood is the fuel pressure gauge!!!

The BOV is mounted in the intercooler piping behind the bumper on the drivers side!

The gauge under the hood is the fuel pressure gauge!!!

The BOV is mounted in the intercooler piping behind the bumper on the drivers side!

But wouldn't you want the feul pressure gauge inside the car to be able to monitor it better?

With the fiberglass glove box mount can you still put your owners manual in there or not?

And if you can't put anything in there is there any way to get it made smaller so that you can put something in there?

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SAFC Pre tuned? Or is that up to the end user?

Yes it does come with settings buit every car is a little differnt so for maxim power you will want to get the car dyno tuned.

so if i place an order now, when can i expect to receive the kit?

The kit will take 2-3 weeks for me to build all the pipes and ship out. The only hold up can be the ball bearing turbo. I have a non ball bearing in stock and I have 10 manifolds getting made as we speak. I can have the first order out in about 1-2 weeks..

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That is a fuel pressure gauge. You need to set that to the specs we give with the kit. The BOV is on the intercooler charge pipe right behind the bumper and it sounds great..

The gauge under the hood is the fuel pressure gauge!!!

The BOV is mounted in the intercooler piping behind the bumper on the drivers side!

But wouldn't you want the feul pressure gauge inside the car to be able to monitor it better?

No you have to set it for the low end and it will go up as you go in to boost...

With the fiberglass glove box mount can you still put your owners manual in there or not?

And if you can't put anything in there is there any way to get it made smaller so that you can put something in there?

The owners manual will not fit. The side pocket is still open for some small stuff. You really could not make it that small to fit a manual. Do you really need your manual in your car?

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Oh and can I get a SP sticker for my tC before HIN..... :bow:

that kit just turned me on

Oh and can I get a SP sticker for my tC before HIN..... :bow:

No problem...

so shinnnnneeeeyyyyy, i like your setup in the box, saw that a while back around here. whats the power on that baby?

It's a lovely kit, and I can't wait for the SAFC-II info to come out with them... so we can all share the joy!

Looks really great though....

the most beautiful picture you guys have on your website is the supras lined up.

Nice Mike, hey you need any extra employees? seriously.......

I do custom car audio :)

but its nice to see you got the pics/price up. as soon as the warranty is up on my car I have permisson from the wife ,lol

so can i just run my car on your dyno for a few months? lol

the kit looks great!! but when does the turbo hit full boost for the normal turbo and when does it hit for the ball-bearing turbo?

oh and how much boost are you running with this kit?

that is some crazy torque numbers. can you say change out tires alot sooner? now only if i had the money.

so shinnnnneeeeyyyyy, i like your setup in the box, saw that a while back around here. whats the power on that baby?

260hp and 280 torque oin 7lbs of boost

the kit looks great!! but when does the turbo hit full boost for the normal turbo and when does it hit for the ball-bearing turbo?

The ball bearing hits about 3200 in a forth gear pull from low RPM. The non ball bearing should hit around 3500 or so. I have not tested one yet but I do not think it will be a big differance...

oh and how much boost are you running with this kit?

7lbs of boost

that is some crazy torque numbers. can you say change out tires alot sooner? now only if i had the money.

Yea the stock tires light up like a x-mas tree

since the ball bearing kit is bigger, will the non-ball bearing kit still push the same numbers?

since the ball bearing kit is bigger, will the non-ball bearing kit still push the same numbers?

The ball bearing turbo is not bigger. It is just the ball bearing version of the SP TC 32..

With the fiberglass glove box mount can you still put your owners manual in there or not?

And if you can't put anything in there is there any way to get it made smaller so that you can put something in there?

The owners manual will not fit. The side pocket is still open for some small stuff. You really could not make it that small to fit a manual. Do you really need your manual in your car?

Not really I just like having it with me just in case I need a quick reference when I'm not at home, plus it's easier to keep track of it if it's in the car.

With the fiberglass glove box mount can you still put your owners manual in there or not?

And if you can't put anything in there is there any way to get it made smaller so that you can put something in there?

The owners manual will not fit. The side pocket is still open for some small stuff. You really could not make it that small to fit a manual. Do you really need your manual in your car?

Not really I just like having it with me just in case I need a quick reference when I'm not at home, plus it's easier to keep track of it if it's in the car.

Well you have to give up some things to look good...

260hp and 280 torque oin 7lbs of boost

Is that 260hp & 280torque @ the wheels?

*EDIT* never mind I read the first post. More power than Turbonetics, and on a lower boost setting. NICE :bow:

With the fiberglass glove box mount can you still put your owners manual in there or not?

And if you can't put anything in there is there any way to get it made smaller so that you can put something in there?

The owners manual will not fit. The side pocket is still open for some small stuff. You really could not make it that small to fit a manual. Do you really need your manual in your car?

Not really I just like having it with me just in case I need a quick reference when I'm not at home, plus it's easier to keep track of it if it's in the car.

Well you have to give up some things to look good...

True, I could always find somewhere else to put it.

yup

Hm.. do you guys think I could pass emissions here in georgia with this kit?

Damn thats a nice kit, parts_pimp you got pm.

Hm.. do you guys think I could pass emissions here in georgia with this kit?

I do not know what they do but there are no check engine lights so I would think so....

Would you guys sell your return fuel setup parts seperately?

Sure

send me a PM I will get you a price...

Wow.. this is an amazing kit! Good job guys :)

Wow this is one nice looking turbo kit

Wow this is one nice looking turbo kit

Thank you. I am just glad that we can offer this kit for a great price. I think people were thinking it would be big money but we priced this kit to sell..

i'm a novice at best when it comes to turbos. can you explain the difference between balli bearing and non ball bearing turbos? pros and cons of each and what not.

I'm not a pro but one difference i do know between the ball bearing and non ball bearing is that the ball bearing turbo can hit full boost a little faster than a non ball bearing turbo.

Anyone else know what the differences are?!

The ball bearing lets the shaft spin faster so they spool faster then a non ball bearing and they are also water cooled intsted of just oil cooled...

because they are ball-bearing, they are also considered to hold more boost, or so I have read... since they spool faster you will have better (or lower) et's and a little wider powerband, or more usable power since you get full spool earlier... am I being really repetitive?? :blah:

No you are very correct..

I do have one question though, the kit looks awesome and everything but, and this is just my opinion, but the intercooler does look a little small... I mean with the amount of boost the kit is running there won't be any heat soak, but if you were to up it later on there would definately be some... how big is it anyway??? One thing I love about the kit is the tubular manifold, just love the design and concept! :bow: Okay one more question, the turbo, what would its flow characteristics be equivilant to, a T3/T4??? Who makes the turbo, your company? Sorry for the 20 questions, just would like to know! I will also post some figures on the FI comparison thread too once you give me some, thanks a bunch... Stephen

I do have one question though, the kit looks awesome and everything but, and this is just my opinion, but the intercooler does look a little small... I mean with the amount of boost the kit is running there won't be any heat soak, but if you were to up it later on there would definately be some... how big is it anyway??? One thing I love about the kit is the tubular manifold, just love the design and concept! :bow: Okay one more question, the turbo, what would its flow characteristics be equivilant to, a T3/T4??? Who makes the turbo, your company? Sorry for the 20 questions, just would like to know! I will also post some figures on the FI comparison thread too once you give me some, thanks a bunch... Stephen

Well the intercooler is rated at 450hp and I have made 638 with the same intercooler on a 240. So I do not think that intercooler is to small. Most kits have very big intercoolers and they cut the bumper support witch is very unsafe. If you crahed your car with no bumper support the car would be wrecked. The turbo is a Garret GT32R. It is close in size to a T3/T4 the GT32 is rated at 650HP...

I do have one question though, the kit looks awesome and everything but, and this is just my opinion, but the intercooler does look a little small... I mean with the amount of boost the kit is running there won't be any heat soak, but if you were to up it later on there would definately be some... how big is it anyway??? One thing I love about the kit is the tubular manifold, just love the design and concept! :bow: Okay one more question, the turbo, what would its flow characteristics be equivilant to, a T3/T4??? Who makes the turbo, your company? Sorry for the 20 questions, just would like to know! I will also post some figures on the FI comparison thread too once you give me some, thanks a bunch... Stephen

Well the intercooler is rated at 450hp and I have made 638 with the same intercooler on a 240. So I do not think that intercooler is to small. Most kits have very big intercoolers and they cut the bumper support witch is very unsafe. If you crahed your car with no bumper support the car would be wrecked. The turbo is a Garret GT32R. It is close in size to a T3/T4 the GT32 is rated at 650HP...

Oh I see, well then that sounds great... I did know that on srt-4's if you got a big FMIC and had to remove the crash bar, you could buy an aftermarket crash bar that could fit around it, so I was thinking they could do the same thing for the Scion tC's, but since that intercooler is rated at 450, it's not really a need...

Oh, I didn't really realize that it was the GT32, very nice turbo... I would definately have to go with the ball-bearing option though, almost need the faster spool with a large turbo such as this!!! Keep up the good work! :clap: Stephen

Thank You very much..

All I have to say is wow! I've been watching the developing aftermarket for the tC and this turbo kit is the first I've seen that can be truely called a "kit". All that and that price is pretty decent.

Few questions:

1: Do you guys prewire the SAFCII for use with a tC or are you reselling them wholesale as part of the kit (universal)?

2: Your manifold looks pretty nice but tubular manifolds are not immune to cracking. Does the supplied downpipe bracket to anything to help with the weight?

It's refreshing to see support. I like that you provide base maps for the SAFC. I like that your fuel setup is a return like kind and the fact that it comes with a pressure guage.

One thing I would like to see in this thread are pictures of the kit itself not installed.

All I have to say is wow! I've been watching the developing aftermarket for the tC and this turbo kit is the first I've seen that can be truely called a "kit". All that and that price is pretty decent.

Few questions:

1: Do you guys prewire the SAFCII for use with a tC or are you reselling them wholesale as part of the kit (universal)?

2: Your manifold looks pretty nice but tubular manifolds are not immune to cracking. Does the supplied downpipe bracket to anything to help with the weight?

It's refreshing to see support. I like that you provide base maps for the SAFC. I like that your fuel setup is a return like kind and the fact that it comes with a pressure guage.

One thing I would like to see in this thread are pictures of the kit itself not installed.

i don't know if the kit has brackets or anything, but the tubular manifold hel so much as far as air-flow and has a lot less heat then the conventional log-style manifold... right now its the only kit that is offered with the tubular manifold...Stephen

All I have to say is wow! I've been watching the developing aftermarket for the tC and this turbo kit is the first I've seen that can be truely called a "kit". All that and that price is pretty decent.

Few questions:

1: Do you guys prewire the SAFCII for use with a tC or are you reselling them wholesale as part of the kit (universal)?

2: Your manifold looks pretty nice but tubular manifolds are not immune to cracking. Does the supplied downpipe bracket to anything to help with the weight?

It's refreshing to see support. I like that you provide base maps for the SAFC. I like that your fuel setup is a return like kind and the fact that it comes with a pressure guage.

One thing I would like to see in this thread are pictures of the kit itself not installed.

We will send you a wiring diagram with the SAFC along with evey thing you need to make it work. The down pipe brakets on the bottom on both sides where the factory hader did. I will have the kit off the car this week and I will have pics for all you guys...

keep us informed... i will totally drop the $$$$ for this kit after i get my tax return...

keep us informed... i will totally drop the $$$$ for this kit after i get my tax return...

Sounds good. Just let me know all we need is a 1/2 deposit for the kit to start building it...

All I have to say is wow! I've been watching the developing aftermarket for the tC and this turbo kit is the first I've seen that can be truely called a "kit". All that and that price is pretty decent.

Few questions:

1: Do you guys prewire the SAFCII for use with a tC or are you reselling them wholesale as part of the kit (universal)?

2: Your manifold looks pretty nice but tubular manifolds are not immune to cracking. Does the supplied downpipe bracket to anything to help with the weight?

It's refreshing to see support. I like that you provide base maps for the SAFC. I like that your fuel setup is a return like kind and the fact that it comes with a pressure guage.

One thing I would like to see in this thread are pictures of the kit itself not installed.

i don't know if the kit has brackets or anything, but the tubular manifold hel so much as far as air-flow and has a lot less heat then the conventional log-style manifold... right now its the only kit that is offered with the tubular manifold...Stephen

I know full well the benifits of a tubular manifold. My question was regarding stress induced by the weight of the runners and turbo but Parts_Pimp answered my question perfectly.

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Awesome. I would have to say that is the best looking kit i have seen.

Thank you guys. I am glad to bring a nice looking and well kit to the Scion community just like we have with the Supra guys....

hey... I was wondering, again, if you have had any problems with the ECU on the tC?... from what it seems the ecu keeps overwriting Emanage (or fighting with it) and the result is either too much fuel, horrible or rough idle, etc. Do these problems exist with your kit? I know you are only running SAFC II and have the fuel pressure regulator under the hood so is this keeping the ECU in check :rofl: so to speak? I read a lot of great reviews on your site and I am from the Kansas City, MO area so when I decide to go turbo maybe I will just stop on by??? :bow: Stephen

All I have to say is wow! I've been watching the developing aftermarket for the tC and this turbo kit is the first I've seen that can be truely called a "kit". All that and that price is pretty decent.

Few questions:

1: Do you guys prewire the SAFCII for use with a tC or are you reselling them wholesale as part of the kit (universal)?

2: Your manifold looks pretty nice but tubular manifolds are not immune to cracking. Does the supplied downpipe bracket to anything to help with the weight?

It's refreshing to see support. I like that you provide base maps for the SAFC. I like that your fuel setup is a return like kind and the fact that it comes with a pressure guage.

One thing I would like to see in this thread are pictures of the kit itself not installed.

i don't know if the kit has brackets or anything, but the tubular manifold hel so much as far as air-flow and has a lot less heat then the conventional log-style manifold... right now its the only kit that is offered with the tubular manifold...Stephen

I know full well the benifits of a tubular manifold. My question was regarding stress induced by the weight of the runners and turbo but Parts_Pimp answered my question perfectly.

Woah, slow down turbo, i said I didn't know... its not like i have this kit or anything... wish I did though (can you send me one SP) from what it seems Sound Performance would be to way to go for any performance part, a very knowledgable staff, and a well thought out turbo kit :clap: Stephen

hey... I was wondering, again, if you have had any problems with the ECU on the tC?... from what it seems the ecu keeps overwriting Emanage (or fighting with it) and the result is either too much fuel, horrible or rough idle, etc. Do these problems exist with your kit? I know you are only running SAFC II and have the fuel pressure regulator under the hood so is this keeping the ECU in check :rofl: so to speak? I read a lot of great reviews on your site and I am from the Kansas City, MO area so when I decide to go turbo maybe I will just stop on by??? :bow: Stephen

We are not having any ECU problems at all. The car runs and drives like stock...

what about during shifting & at idle? its been my experience that with a BOV that vents to the atmosphere on a MAF engine, you get some stuttering/stalling at idle & when you shift gears... if that is not a problem with your kit, i will be paypal'ing you half of the total cost of a kit after i get my tax return...

The car does not stall at all. The reason is the BOV is venting non metered air.... The car is perfect. I would perfer not to do paypal. A charge card of check is fine...

k... money order work? (i dont have a credit card that has a $2000 limit... d@mn it sucks being 20)

thats cool with me..

The car does not stall at all. The reason is the BOV is venting non metered air.... The car is perfect. I would perfer not to do paypal. A charge card of check is fine...

One more thing, could you elaborate more on the non-metered air, haven't really heard much about this... also, what is the difference between yours and the others that makes your kit 'perfect'??? Stephen

(not flaming or anything, just trying to get a good answer to determine what kit I should purchase and why :love: )

notice where they repositioned the MAF sensor... its right infront of the throttle body, whereas the BOV is on the exit side of the intercooler, thus making the air vented through the BOV unmetered... rather ingenious IMO...

notice where they repositioned the MAF sensor... its right infront of the throttle body, whereas the BOV is on the exit side of the intercooler, thus making the air vented through the BOV unmetered... rather ingenious IMO...

wow great info, and I agree, very ingenious... so why haven't the other turbo kit developers noticed this and just made the change to their kits??? Well when I go turbo, or when I have the money at least, I know who I am buying from! Stephen

part of the reason why is because the MAF sensor can break very easily (and theyre not cheap to replace)... thus other kits have it near the air filter so that when the air is compressed by the turbo, it doesnt have a chance at breaking the filament because the MAF sensor is before the turbo...

part of the reason why is because the MAF sensor can break very easily (and theyre not cheap to replace)... thus other kits have it near the air filter so that when the air is compressed by the turbo, it doesnt have a chance at breaking the filament because the MAF sensor is before the turbo...

But since SP placed the BOV right after exit part of the intercooler and the MAF right before the throttle body, does this eliminate the chance of the sensor breaking? I just want to clarify because you say it is ingenious design then you say companies dont do this because of how easily the sensor breaks :eyebrow: ...Stephen

the sensor does have a greater risk of breaking while using this kit... the turbo could surge and cause a spike of 40+ psi to trave l through the piping and into the throttle body causing the sensor and your intake manifold to go "pop"... but the chances of that happening are very slim due to the external wastegate (if such a surge were to ever occur, the wastegate would hold the turbo @ 7psi regardless of how much pressure it feels like creating during that surge)

the sensor does have a greater risk of breaking while using this kit... the turbo could surge and cause a spike of 40+ psi to trave l through the piping and into the throttle body causing the sensor and your intake manifold to go "pop"... but the chances of that happening are very slim due to the external wastegate (if such a surge were to ever occur, the wastegate would hold the turbo @ 7psi regardless of how much pressure it feels like creating during that surge)


I do not think you will ever break a sensor. The waste gate has a 7lb spring so the car will never see more then 7lbs unless the waste gate fails. I have never seen a tial gate fail but any thing is possible. I have been driving and dynoing this car now for over 2 weeks and we have no problems at all runs like stock just faster..

any videos coming 1/4 mile or street?

I had alot of bad weather here and I have the car apart to make my jigs for the kit. I will post some when I get the car back together...

the sensor does have a greater risk of breaking while using this kit... the turbo could surge and cause a spike of 40+ psi to trave l through the piping and into the throttle body causing the sensor and your intake manifold to go "pop"... but the chances of that happening are very slim due to the external wastegate (if such a surge were to ever occur, the wastegate would hold the turbo @ 7psi regardless of how much pressure it feels like creating during that surge)


I do not think you will ever break a sensor. The waste gate has a 7lb spring so the car will never see more then 7lbs unless the waste gate fails. I have never seen a tial gate fail but any thing is possible. I have been driving and dynoing this car now for over 2 weeks and we have no problems at all runs like stock just faster..

That is very comforting to hear! If you decide later on to up the boost to... I dunno, lets say 15psi, will the MAF break then? If it does happen to break, is there a more heavy duty one that you can replace it with?? Thanks a bunch... Stephen

no... unfortunately MAF sensors dont get any stronger... what you should do is invest in the Greddy eManage Ultimate and convert the car into a MAP (mass air-pressure) which is a solid-state sensor that has yet to break... my friend has seen a spike of 70+ psi on an srt4 that blew the intake manifold but the sensor was fine... and with this kit, if you wanted to go with 15 psi, i would rebuild the bottom end with stronger pistons, rods, crank, and sleeve the cylinders... not to mention you would have to get a different spring for the TiAL wastegate...

I would run the AEM it is more then the E-manage but it makes so much more power. My friend made over 400hp stock block with a AEM ECM

and then you do not need a MAF meter either

yea, but we need the AEM ECM to work with our tCs... which it doesnt yet AFAIK

Oh yes it does. You have to run the universal box and have us wire it in. My friend is running one right now

yea, but youre in chicago and im in phoenix... not really helpful...

Can send you a wire harness for your car. Then you have to have it tunned

ah... is there a problem that you dont have a solution for?

I do think so...

Oh yes it does. You have to run the universal box and have us wire it in. My friend is running one right now

How much would all of that cost? And would that include all the sensors and the ability to run speed density? Thanks for your time!

Well I have not priced one out yet but they are big money the EMc is around$3,000 and then you need the sensors and wiring. I can look in to it but I do not think that they will be quick sellers...

Wow that's a pretty expensive option. Well hopefully AEM will put together a Scion tC specific ECU so that price will drop. Thanks for the quick response!

no... unfortunately MAF sensors dont get any stronger... what you should do is invest in the Greddy eManage Ultimate and convert the car into a MAP (mass air-pressure) which is a solid-state sensor that has yet to break... my friend has seen a spike of 70+ psi on an srt4 that blew the intake manifold but the sensor was fine... and with this kit, if you wanted to go with 15 psi, i would rebuild the bottom end with stronger pistons, rods, crank, and sleeve the cylinders... not to mention you would have to get a different spring for the TiAL wastegate...

oh I know all about what needs to be done internally before I up the boost like that, sleeving the cylinders might not be a big neccessity at 15psi, but the rest would definately be! Sleeves would probably be needed around 20psi i imagine... Stephen

The stock block will hold about 15-20 pounds with a stock block and a AEM with a good tune on it and you get about 400-450hp and then pistons and rods will get you up in the 600-650hp range...

what kinda turbo setup up does ur 400 hp tc friend have? he should post some pics of his car and some dyno results... i'm very interested to see that... also does he live in the chitown area?

The car is in Florida he has a turbo like the one on our kit. That turbo is rated for 650hp. He owns a shop down there. I will see if I can get some pics...

I keep getting more and more impressed with your kit :bow: now I hope you mean with a sleeved block, pistons and rods, and a good tune you could achieve 600-650... just making sure... if you could get pics that would be great! But I think most of us on here are really waiting for the dyno video!!! Or at least some street runs with the car, just to see if it performs as well as you said... no hurry though, but the sooner the better!!! Stephen

Yea I have seen a couple of guys making around 600 with just pistons and rods.. I will have some vids when I put the car back together...

Is there anything you would need to do to the engine to prepare it for this kit?

And how would you turn up the boost on this kit, say 1-4 PSI?

Just get all the parts and you would use a boost controler

so will all three of the kits be safe for everyday driving?
lets say you do max out the block at 400-450hp with the tuner kit, will that create risks, or lower motor life?

are u going to sell the manifold separately?

so will all three of the kits be safe for everyday driving?
lets say you do max out the block at 400-450hp with the tuner kit, will that create risks, or lower motor life?

Yes with the right tune the car will be fine. The motor life depends on how you drive the car and maintain it..

are u going to sell the manifold separately?

Yes the manifold coated is $450.00 by its self...

are u going to sell the manifold separately?

Yes the manifold coated is $450.00 by its self...

Wow that's a nice price for a sick manifold, and coated to boot. Sweet 8)

Let me know...

does the turbo kit work on a auto tranny, just askin so i could choose between new manual tc, no turbo for 6 g's or turbo with my auto with 7g's in it already for 5 g's

Well I would go with a 5 speed. The auto trans should hold up to low power but I am not sure for how long but yes the kit will work with a auto...

yea, the auto tranny's arent really meant for FI... thus why TRD still hasnt released the kit for the s/c on them...

Yea 5 speed will be fun to drive and they make great power...

Here are some pics of the kit off the car. The only thing missing is the oil pan and the fuel lines..

http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_1612.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_1621.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_163.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_164.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_165.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Picture_1661.jpg

so shiny! *drool...

yeah...looks sweet!

What exhaust does the project car have on it or is it custom?

Greddy Axle Back

What injectors does it come with again, I dont see them in the pics, I could be blind though...

440cc

Hey Mike, were you going to be around at all tomorrow? I'm back home in Chicago for the weekend and a couple buddies and I wanted to stop by and check out the turbo tC. Please let me know if you're going to be available. Thanks man!

The car is here but the turbo kit is off we are making the jigs as we speak...

very nice looking kit..

Thank you

now will the $4500 price tag stay at that price or will it go up/down in the future??? I want it so bad but I have to wait for funds :tap: Do you think you could just give me the kit and sponser me??? :rofl: :rofl: haha j/p, well update when you have more info or have a dyno video! Keep up the great work!

Stephen

The $4500 will stay. There are still 3 kits at the $4150. A 1/2 deposit will hold that price until the kit is done and you pay in full...

The $4500 will stay. There are still 3 kits at the $4150. A 1/2 deposit will hold that price until the kit is done and you pay in full...

yeah but I dont know how long the last 3 will last... I mean right now I have about $2700 but I am not working so I can't just drop 2g on this until I start working again in april... unless I can put that much down and somehow find some extra income in the meantime... how long could I hold off paying the rest? Thanks again for the info!

Stephen :love:

If you want to give me $1000 I will hold the kit. The kits will take about 6-8 weeks to build. I still do not have my manifolds yet. They are about 3-4 weeks away...So you have alot of time...

If you want to give me $1000 I will hold the kit. The kits will take about 6-8 weeks to build. I still do not have my manifolds yet. They are about 3-4 weeks away...So you have alot of time...

this is so tempting!!! I just don't know what to do hahaha. So if I decide to do this, I wont get the turbo kit until when??? Until I pay off at least half? Also I will probably have to get the gauges, steel braided gas lines, and the ball-bearing option. Being broke, what a life eh?!? haha, well thanks for the info and I will pm you if I decide to go ahead on that deal...

Stephen

You will not get the kit until it is paid in full. The kits are about 6-8 weeks out right now...

i was wondering how do u think this kit would work on an automatic??

I just do not how the trans would hold up...

How're the stage 2 / tuner kits coming along? What's the projected performance for them?

Few more months and I'll be ready to make my purchase.

I have not tested the stage 2 yet. I hope to test it in a week or two.. The tuner kits are almost ready. I am just waiting on the AEM pricing...

You have one of the best looking kits ive seen for our cars, way too go.

Thank you so when are you going to order yours??

Think this kit will pass an emissions test? Required every other year in my county and all of the surrounding ones too.

That, and the specs for the Stage 2 / Tuner kits are what's currently holding my decision. Once it's made, I'll end up making the purchase around June/July, or whenever the next level hits the market.

Well the car has no check engine lights so I think it will pass but I am not sure. The stage 2 kit will be the 10psi kit and the tuner will be the kit with the AEM ECU

i am a little late in spotting this thread but big ups to parts_pimp and sound performance....
I will need this at christmas time, gotta give myself a gift you know!

Great I will have a kit waiting for you...

what does the stage 2 kit include? any pricing on it and the tuner kit? this is very intriguing and i will be able to afford it once i get my new job...

The stage kit will be about $4,800 and it runs 10lbs of boost.. The tunner will be around $6,000 or so with the AEM ECU..

does that $6k include all of the necessary sensors & harnesses for the AEM ecu?

Yea it will be some where around 6K

cool... hopefully with this new job ill be able to order a tuner one from you within the next few months

Cool just let me know

Hey you got any videos of your stage 1 kit yet?
I am really interested

next week when I put the car back together

very nic epictures!!!

Hey how come your website has nothing about the tC in there?

because we are re-doing the site...

ahhh. ok.
Now where is that video ive been waiting for?

What fuel managment system does the Stage 2 kit use?

It will still use the SAFC II. We have not still tested that yet. I think for any over 7 or 8 lbs the AEM is alot safer to run...

video?

not yet.. I will when I get it back together...

Any updates on the other kits? :)

got the car back together?
video?

what page were the pix on? I don't think they were working for me. Is there a website up with the pix on it and more info? I'm sorry if i'm asking the same question as someone else but i just got tired of reading about people not being able to decide weather or not to put money down!!!!

Thanks for the help, I'd love to see those pictures specially by what everyone's saying.

I've been impressed with the Turbonetics kit, and to anyone wondering about CARB go with Turbonetics, they're based out of Cali. and they would know what works and what doesn't.... or just mine them for info on what it takes.

If you're concerned about CARB at all then you shouldn't even bother with a turbo kit, as there currently isn't a kit on the market with CARB approval.

im about to get a scion tC and im really looking to dropping a turbo into it? my question is which turbo, the one from sound or turbonetics? which is betta? which wont give me problems??

Any turbo kit has the potential for problems. They all require maintenance, tuning, and money. As of yet, there currently hasn't been any notable mileage done on any turbo kit to evaluate it from a reliability standpoint.

If you're overly concerned about problems resulting from forced induction, just go for the TRD Supercharger or save your money, pay off your tC, and trade-up for an STI :p

Can we see some new pictures? all the pictures on the front page are red x's :p

I'm starting to lose faith in this company...

Sorry guys.. I am out of town in Texas till Wendsday at a big Supra Meet... I have been here for over a week now... I will post up pics and a vid when I get back to chi-town...

did charles ever get his car back?

I would also love to see some pics of this kit! they are not working or showing up for me either!

I will do a new post tonight with all the pics from start to finish....

sounds great!

right...
Those are some amazing pics man.

There is a new post in the sponsord sales section and there is a link in the TC forced induction page with pics and a vid..

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1463982#1463982

right...
Those are some amazing pics man.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=113091

oh thanks.

no problem

that's a huge turbo

that's a huge turbo


No, this is a huge turbo!!

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9758/engine55zv.jpg

so much for the A/C-Heater System :silly:

:shock: :bow: I just nizutted :shock:

Yes that is one big turbo... I want to put in on a scion....


Just kidding...

You'd have to reinforce the front end....or the engine will jump the hell out and leave the rest of the car there :o

also i dont think there's enough room for a turbo that big in the tC :(

good news I will headers in stock next week...

What's considered a full weight supra? did'nt the boostlogic supra run a 8.1@174? Either way, both of em is a split second quicker than my tc... HAHA

The boost logic car did go 8.1 but it is not a full weight car. There car is about 300lbs lighter then our car. They have no interior in that car....

oooh, that's cool though, sounds like it'd be an awesome race =p

Thank you. I just hope to get my local guys running our kit...

I'm certainly not local but I'll be running your kit before long. Just need the money...

4500 for the kit..
Another 500 invested in a gauge pod and gauges
1200-1300 for wider wheels and tires

then dyno/install/tuning and whatnot


this stuff adds up pretty quick :eyes:

Yes that is one big turbo... I want to put in on a scion....


Just kidding...

Come on!
http://m2hosting.net/files/2/GT47h.jpg

:P

Indeed.. we all dabble in one of the most expensive hobbies known to man :) I love it! :lol:

Hmm..

A turbo like that would require catch-tanks under each of the seats so when the driver/passengers lose control of their bowels under WOT the mess won't be too bad.

I am thinking about doing a tc for my self. If I do I am going to build one crazy ___ custom turbo kit and it will make some crazy power...

well ill buy one locally mike! just need the money first :(

Unless you can finance me for a few months.......

Well its takes 3-4 weeks to build the kit. So give me 1/2 down and I will cover the rest till the kit is done...

Is there a reason that you didnt use the watter lines on the turbo? It seems to me that it was placed there for a reason, oh yeah longevity. One more thing is there a support for the manifold or does it just hang there? The reason I am asking this question is that thing is going to get hot and holding all of that weight there is a good chance that it will crack sooner than later.

Thanks Dan


P.S. the kit looks awsome, keep up the good work.

any updates on the next stage kits? any more pics? vids? good stuff? :D

On behalf of Sound Performance. I know right now they are very busy putting together some tC kits to fill their orders. I should have the Tuner kit within the next month and be putting out some really good numbers (Hopefully).

I WILL.....post pix and videos of the updates and dyno. So far though i have put about 4,000 hard driving miles on the car and no problems except for a few exhaust leaks but only due to the fact that they have put together and taken my kit apart TOO MANY times, but its all good now. As soon as i find a digital recorder ill post videos of dyno and track runs etc.....

Does anyone know if i can some how get the video from my 8mm camera onto the net??? How?

:yawn:

in response to 8mm to hard drive......you're gonna need an analog-digital capture card for your pc or go here and pay someone to make it digital http://www.videoconversionexperts.com/Film_to_DVD/Film_8mm.htm?iorb=4764

Digital cameras are getting cheaper by the day. ask for one for a b-day gift :) Can't wait to see those videos. I'm about 2 weeks into the order process. Waiting on Mike to get back from NY so I can ask him more about the exhaust, I need an 1/8th NPT in the piping somewhere for my EGT. Too bad I won't get it on before Hot Import Nights, shoulda ordered sooner.

in response to 8mm to hard drive......you're gonna need an analog-digital capture card for your pc or go here and pay someone to make it digital http://www.videoconversionexperts.com/Film_to_DVD/Film_8mm.htm?iorb=4764

Or you can get one of those cyberhome dvd recorder for less than $100. :)

or you can borrow a minidv cam and use the pass through feature to go staright to hard drive :blah: but thts just geek talk lol

any word on the stage 2 kit or tuner kit?

:yawn:

They will being doing the tuner kit on my car in Oct. They are very busy working on a lot of other customer cars and that is the time they are least busy.