Well heres my dyno chart, i must say im a bit dissapointed. I think the problem lies within my pulley. for whatever reason i barely hit over 8 psi on the dyno at 6275 rpms. im not sure if there is a defect in my pulley or what not, but i am a little dissapointed in the numbers. Im sorry to dissapoint but i dont believe the header made much of a difference, at least not as much as people think it would.

heres my setup:

TRD supercharger
ZPI pulley
Alphawerks Header
3in s-pipe
2.5in magnaflow exhaust
bosch 110 BPV


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/outcrnru/dyno2.jpg

Good luck, you should see somewhere around 220-230whp. With just the supercharger alone puts manuals around 185whp. With the pulley and other mods you have, you should see around 220whp. Especially with the pulley.

are the numbers in ur sig SAE corrected? custom s-pipe i take it? cant wait to see ur numbers :)

yes and yes, hahaha short and to the point

i cant wait for tomorrow :silly:

Awesome, any plans w/Tuning??? That should get you around 260, maybe more!

Makeu sure you come back with the sheet so you can share!

Good luck, you should see somewhere around 220-230whp. With just the supercharger alone puts manuals around 185whp. With the pulley and other mods you have, you should see around 220whp. Especially with the pulley.

In his sig, it says that he already is at 211.

With that setup, all he needs is the Bosch Sport 110 BPV and he should be at 240-250 whp, hopefully

Sweet man, I am hoping to go get my car dynoed Saturday... I have almost the same setup...

ZPI pulley
3in exhaust, Header Back
intake
Bosche 110 BPV
and I just added a DC Sports Header...

I was getting 227whp and 197ft-lbs before the header..

cool, keep us posted

yeah forgot to mention i do have the bosch 110

ill update you tonight

man work is going slow today

cool cant wait to see the dyno.

ill be paying attention to this. cant wait

Will be waiting.

waiting...

man...i thought it would have better numbers? But if you said it barely hit over 8 psi, i was hoping about 240-250 whp. Maybe others out there with the NST and ZPI pulley should get dynos too for their numbers to see what everybody else is putting down.

the zpi pulley is suppose to be 9.5 psi isnt it? to be honest i actually think its your s-pipe that may be the reason your numbers are so low (thats if you got a fully funtional pulley). to me it seems too big for what you actually need so it may be causing you to lose some power instead of gaining. bigger isnt always better esp. when it comes to your exhaust system.. mayb try getting a 2.5 inch one. jus my opinion though :lalala:

I was dead on then. I figured around 220-230whp, closer to 220.

EDIT: You should be proud of that, thats about 90whp above stock. Of course, like i always have said the trd s/c is overpriced and over rated by a ton of people. If you wanted closer to 300whp then a turbo would be safer, and easier to acheive vs. what trd produces. But 224whp is about 30whp above what the supercharger alone puts out, which is very reasonable.

this may sound like a dumb question, as most my engine knowlege is old school v8 thinking, not tuner cars; but when our sc's were installed they increased the injector size. Is that something to consider when adding the pulley & increasing the boost? Maybe these run a bit too lean with the extra air blown thru? Man, back in the day we messed with carb jets, timing, etc each time we changed exhaust, cam, manifold, etc to take full advantage of the mods. I realize we had to do all that since there were no computers on our cars, but is there some "tuning" to be done to get the most of these types of add-ons?
just wondering out loud; especially for when the time comes that we do more to the wife's ride.

Oh, and i might also point out that the 3in s pipe is a little large, even for the f/i set up. However, you would loose more torque than you would horsepower with that size. Your horsepower might go up 2-5whp with a 2.5 pipe, but your torque would probably raise another 10wtq.

that's true on the exhaust. I would run just header mufflers for the fun of it ( small town, back road running, etc ). Sounded pretty cool at higher rpm's, but i could notice the low end punch would be better when I'd put back on the full exhaust. Free-er flowing is a good thing but there should be some backpressure in the system. We would make sure the header tubes & exhaust sizing all worked together.

2.25'' piping is perfect for n/a builds, 2.5'' piping is perfect for f/i builds, 3.0'' is larger than you want to go for a 2.4l on any build. Its do able, but you will lose mostly wtq. Which, 191wtq is not bad at all for the tC. 3.0''+ you will loose a good amount of wtq and whp.

Thats as a general rule, you wouldn't want to run 3'' piping unless your 2az is completely built up from side to side, bottom to top and even then its questionable.

that's true on the exhaust. I would run just header mufflers for the fun of it ( small town, back road running, etc ). Sounded pretty cool at higher rpm's, but i could notice the low end punch would be better when I'd put back on the full exhaust. Free-er flowing is a good thing but there should be some backpressure in the system. We would make sure the header tubes & exhaust sizing all worked together.

my point exactly :clap:

i just want to hand out some props to you younger guys out there. Too many times people my age end up pre-judging your age group; and don't ever return any respect. There is a good amount of car knowledge being used on this site, it shows in your posts & in your cars. At your age, I had a 70 1/2 Camaro that I worked on constently to make as fast as I could afford to. But vehicles were easier back then; less tech details to worry about. Now you are getting 2-300 hp out of engines that at one time were designed for reliability/economy. And in some cases ( like the older Honda hatches ) there is engine swapping, etc being done just like the old days. I just wish we had the web like you do--man this is great to be able to exchange ideas across the country in a moment's time.
Well, for what it's worth you guys have my respect.. keep up the solid work.

fyi, you sig says you have 2241hp. not disappointing at all if you ask me :doh:

I have to agree.. the numbers are lower than i would of wanted too. There is just no torque with this SC... i hate that.. Turbo is looking better and better.. now how to get rid of this supercharger is the real question haha.

i just want to hand out some props to you younger guys out there. Too many times people my age end up pre-judging your age group; and don't ever return any respect. There is a good amount of car knowledge being used on this site, it shows in your posts & in your cars. At your age, I had a 70 1/2 Camaro that I worked on constently to make as fast as I could afford to. But vehicles were easier back then; less tech details to worry about. Now you are getting 2-300 hp out of engines that at one time were designed for reliability/economy. And in some cases ( like the older Honda hatches ) there is engine swapping, etc being done just like the old days. I just wish we had the web like you do--man this is great to be able to exchange ideas across the country in a moment's time.
Well, for what it's worth you guys have my respect.. keep up the solid work.

I totally agree. Back in the day it was a set of headers, a manual distributor, carburators, having the heads reworked and tossing a cam in, all on a big block and still only making 250hp. Now 4cyl engines pound out over 300hp with a few mods. I still can't stand popping my hood and looking at all the electronics. Chips, pulleys, NOS, and re-tuning. Good job guys!

I Think the #'s are pretty decent for what mods you have. Now get that thing to the track and see what time you can squeez out of it ;)

Looks like your belt started to slip at 4800 rpm on that run and again up high on that run for a split second. Might be why you only saw the hp you did and 8 psi.

i would have to disagree with some of you about 3" being too big. the supercharger is designed for top end power, im willing to sacrafice 2-3 lbs of torque to gain some top end power with better air flow, but hey everyone is titled to their opinions.

desertheat- how would i be able to tell by driving the car that the belt was slipping, im very interested in this matter and how i might fix it if there is a problem

I agree that with some tuning the numbers would be a lot better, also with some form of cooling agent as well, ie intercooler. im not dissapointed in the numbers themselves, im dissapointed in not seeing the numbers ZPI claimed it would put out, maybe someone from there end might have some input.

Thanks for the comments

Those numbers arent bad at all, but I dont know if you are having any slipping or what, cause your dyno is very steady to redline besides that last little hump.... Do you have the stock air box in? If so I wouldnt be surprised if that is why you are thinking your numbers are a lil low... Think about it, you cant force any more air in that cant get through the airbox...
I am hitting 227hp-197ft-lbs before I did the header.... You have all of the mods that I have, besides the intake and 3" exhaust...

i have the umnitza intake but i think that does about as much as the stock airbox would, looks pretty though haha. after doing the s-pipe i wouldnt be surprised if my missing power isnt from the 3 inch exhaust.

But its like i said and what i still cant figure out is why i only got 13hp from the pulley when ZPI claims 21 on the stock exhaust, seems kinda funny to me but oh well life moves on

the zpi pulley is suppose to be 9.5 psi isnt it? to be honest i actually think its your s-pipe that may be the reason your numbers are so low (thats if you got a fully funtional pulley). to me it seems too big for what you actually need so it may be causing you to lose some power instead of gaining. bigger isnt always better esp. when it comes to your exhaust system.. mayb try getting a 2.5 inch one. jus my opinion though :lalala:


ZPI = 9psi

NST = 9.5psi


But its like i said and what i still cant figure out is why i only got 13hp from the pulley when ZPI claims 21 on the stock exhaust, seems kinda funny to me but oh well life moves on

Wasn't that claimed 21hp verified by someone other than ZPI? I believed someone else dynoed that increase. Honestly, I think it's your 3" piping. It's to large IMO.

The stock belt sucks...when you put a pulley on, its absolute garbage...look on your engine block right behind your pulley...you see any black dust?? Replace the belt with the part number that I supplied on my NST pulley thread and that will answer your problems...You can thank Munch for that one :lalala: :clap:

Wasn't that claimed 21hp verified by someone other than ZPI? I believed someone else dynoed that increase. Honestly, I think it's your 3" piping. It's to large IMO.

I gained about 19hp from the ZPI Pulley.. I went from 208hp with Intake and 3" exhaust to 227 hp with Intake, Exhaust, Bosch BPV and ZPI Pulley....

i have the umnitza intake but i think that does about as much as the stock airbox would, looks pretty though haha. after doing the s-pipe i wouldnt be surprised if my missing power isnt from the 3 inch exhaust.

But its like i said and what i still cant figure out is why i only got 13hp from the pulley when ZPI claims 21 on the stock exhaust, seems kinda funny to me but oh well life moves on


It is not a claim, it is a fact of physics. Somthing happened were you only hit 8 psi. that 1 psi is worth about 10whp which is why you only saw a 13hp gain! RIght at 4800 looks to me like your belt started to slip like I said, then on in the rpm range before redline she really slipped for a second. Just my 2 cents.

i just want to hand out some props to you younger guys out there. Too many times people my age end up pre-judging your age group; and don't ever return any respect. There is a good amount of car knowledge being used on this site, it shows in your posts & in your cars. At your age, I had a 70 1/2 Camaro that I worked on constently to make as fast as I could afford to. But vehicles were easier back then; less tech details to worry about. Now you are getting 2-300 hp out of engines that at one time were designed for reliability/economy. And in some cases ( like the older Honda hatches ) there is engine swapping, etc being done just like the old days. I just wish we had the web like you do--man this is great to be able to exchange ideas across the country in a moment's time.
Well, for what it's worth you guys have my respect.. keep up the solid work.

:clap: I concur! Mine was a '56 Chevy 2 DHT. When we wanted a lowered front end - we just heated the springs! :rofl:

Wasn't that claimed 21hp verified by someone other than ZPI? I believed someone else dynoed that increase. Honestly, I think it's your 3" piping. It's to large IMO.

That would be me. Dyno'd 195 before the pulley. 217 after. Swapped it out while it was strapped to the dyno. No other mods, stock airbox, spipe, header, exhaust. That why i thought with a header, intake, spipe and muffler he should of saw more than what he got. I'd suspect some belt slippage too maybe?

wow

i personally like the linear increase in power, just because i know its safe on the engine.

the flat line of torque looks awesome too.

Good job!

Wow I thought you would pull in a bit better for the mods. Nothing stratospheric but I mean at least 235 hp and over 200 tq. My car has the TRD supercharger, ZPI pulley, Crank Pulley, DC Header and Custom Intake and I netted 225 hp and 195 tq. I recently added the Forge 007 BPV a ZPI s-pipe. Wondering what that will put me at when I go to the dyno.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade regardless, the wheel horsepower is still awesome considering the TC dynos at 139 whp and 136 tq stock. So its good to know you have one of the faster tC's on the road. :clap:

ill have to look into the belt but im still curious how you can see that by looking at the dyno.

Also what makes you think 3" is too big when people with FI on our cars and other cars are making more power with 3" exhaust. Also I talked to my tuner about it who has built dozens of low psi to high psi boosted applications and in his experience 3" always yeilds better gains.

well, im not sure an upgraded BPV is going to net you gains, it will hold the boost better throughout the powerband.

i think the main problem with the TRD BPV was that it wasnt holding boost at a lower RPM, but had no problem holding it at a higher RPM. If i'm wrong correct me.

What i am sure about, is a 3inch exhaust with forced induction is going to yield better gains. When going NA, too much lose of backpressure can hurt you.

Also, 225whp seems to be right on the money

9.8 X 9psi = 88hp

so... 130whp + 90whp = 220whp.

and of course, we have to take into account that not everything in the real world is perfect, so maybe...

1bar (9.8) X 9spi = 78 whp.

Plus his supporting mods

225whp seems perfect.

i have the umnitza intake but i think that does about as much as the stock airbox would, looks pretty though haha. after doing the s-pipe i wouldnt be surprised if my missing power isnt from the 3 inch exhaust.

But its like i said and what i still cant figure out is why i only got 13hp from the pulley when ZPI claims 21 on the stock exhaust, seems kinda funny to me but oh well life moves on

The belt has to be slipping, I have the same setup except a modded K&N CAI and my autometer nexus gagues tell me I hit 10psi at around 5000rpms and sometimes it looks like the needle is a little past 10spi. I should hook the controller up to my laptop and get the exact numbers, the replay feature on these gauges is just awesome!

You need to get video of that or something, there is almost no way you are reaching 10psi at 5000 rpm... That would mean that at about 6200 you would be around 12psi...

As for the exhaust size... On a S/Ced setup it really shouldnt matter at all how big your exhaust is because you dont need the back pressure on a S/C setup.. For a Turbo setup it is good for spooling purposes, but on the Belt Driven S/C it wont matter, the more air that you can let out, the better... But you still have to get the air in...

i would have to disagree with some of you about 3" being too big. the supercharger is designed for top end power, im willing to sacrafice 2-3 lbs of torque to gain some top end power with better air flow, but hey everyone is titled to their opinions.

desertheat- how would i be able to tell by driving the car that the belt was slipping, im very interested in this matter and how i might fix it if there is a problem

I agree that with some tuning the numbers would be a lot better, also with some form of cooling agent as well, ie intercooler. im not dissapointed in the numbers themselves, im dissapointed in not seeing the numbers ZPI claimed it would put out, maybe someone from there end might have some input.

Thanks for the comments

Top end is great, i'm a top end guy myself but 3'' piping on a 2.4l is too big, even if you do want top end.

It is all going to depend on how much boost you are planning to run. If you are eventually going to go with 12lbs or more, I would get larger exhaust... 2.5-3" is going to be fine, prolly not much different, but so far I have the 3" and am pushing 227 and 197, we will see what I hit with the Header.. then we can see what other people are getting and go from there.

224whp is a perfect number for the mods he has guys. Some of you are trying to make excuses, yes the 3'' piping is a little large but its not going to eat that much whp or wtq away. The belt is probably slipping, which should be fixed but again wouldn't be 20whp increase either.

Stock tc with only s/c is around 185whp

His tC is 224whp. Thats a 39whp increase, ZPI claims just say 20whp. Thats puts his tc around 205whp. That leaves 19whp for the rest of the mods, then you take into effect the fact you can't figure whp by each mod for the fact they all work together as one machine. So 224whp i'd say is very respectable with the mods he has. Its also a great number for a daily driven tc.

i have the umnitza intake but i think that does about as much as the stock airbox would, looks pretty though haha. after doing the s-pipe i wouldnt be surprised if my missing power isnt from the 3 inch exhaust.

But its like i said and what i still cant figure out is why i only got 13hp from the pulley when ZPI claims 21 on the stock exhaust, seems kinda funny to me but oh well life moves on

The belt has to be slipping, I have the same setup except a modded K&N CAI and my autometer nexus gagues tell me I hit 10psi at around 5000rpms and sometimes it looks like the needle is a little past 10spi. I should hook the controller up to my laptop and get the exact numbers, the replay feature on these gauges is just awesome!


Sorry but your gauge is broken to he*l if your hitting 10 psi at 5K rpm *LOL* sorry man not going to happen. Most likley you hooked up the nexus boost gauge wrong... as in put the ignition lead to an ignition wire that goes to open when the car is cranking. They read goofy if you hook them up that way. They have to see a 12V constant ignition source when the car is cranking.

It is all going to depend on how much boost you are planning to run. If you are eventually going to go with 12lbs or more, I would get larger exhaust... 2.5-3" is going to be fine, prolly not much different, but so far I have the 3" and am pushing 227 and 197, we will see what I hit with the Header.. then we can see what other people are getting and go from there.

well hurry up and get a header already.

224whp is a perfect number for the mods he has guys. Some of you are trying to make excuses, yes the 3'' piping is a little large but its not going to eat that much whp or wtq away. The belt is probably slipping, which should be fixed but again wouldn't be 20whp increase either.

Stock tc with only s/c is around 185whp

His tC is 224whp. Thats a 39whp increase, ZPI claims just say 20whp. Thats puts his tc around 205whp. That leaves 19whp for the rest of the mods, then you take into effect the fact you can't figure whp by each mod for the fact they all work together as one machine. So 224whp i'd say is very respectable with the mods he has. Its also a great number for a daily driven tc.


I guess you missed this post....

That would be me. Dyno'd 195 before the pulley. 217 after.

He dynoed 195, not 185 and then added a ZPI pulley to reach 217. That's a difference of 22whp on the pulley alone. So, don't act like there isn't something a little off. He should be slightly higher than 224whp not by much, but still higher.

I won't have this let down, because I'm going turbo to begin with.

224whp is a perfect number for the mods he has guys. Some of you are trying to make excuses, yes the 3'' piping is a little large but its not going to eat that much whp or wtq away. The belt is probably slipping, which should be fixed but again wouldn't be 20whp increase either.

Stock tc with only s/c is around 185whp

His tC is 224whp. Thats a 39whp increase, ZPI claims just say 20whp. Thats puts his tc around 205whp. That leaves 19whp for the rest of the mods, then you take into effect the fact you can't figure whp by each mod for the fact they all work together as one machine. So 224whp i'd say is very respectable with the mods he has. Its also a great number for a daily driven tc.


I guess you missed this post....

That would be me. Dyno'd 195 before the pulley. 217 after.

He dynoed 195, not 185 and then added a ZPI pulley to reach 217. That's a difference of 22whp on the pulley alone. So, don't act like there isn't something a little off. He should be slightly higher than 224whp not by much, but still higher.

I won't have this let down, because I'm going turbo to begin with.

Like i said before, if he replaced the 3'' s-pipe with a 2.5'' s-pipe, he would have a slight gain with whp and he would more than likely increase 10wtq.

Also, one person dyno'd 195whp with nothing else done. Amazing, i've seen two actual sheets of stock tcs with just the s/c, both dyno'd between 185whp-190whp but never broke 190's. I might also point out, there are quite a few people on here, with h/e s/c set ups not breaking 200whp, which also goes with the 180's and not 190's.

Every thread you try to prove me wrong in something, i never said nothing was off. If you read my post you would see i said the 3'' s-pipe is pretty large, and the belt could be slipping. Both replacing both of those like you said, the gains would be very small. Probably still be in the 220's. You are arguing with me the difference of up to 5whp? Give me a break.

Like i said before, if he replaced the 3'' s-pipe with a 2.5'' s-pipe, he would have a slight gain with whp and he would more than likely increase 10wtq.

Also, one person dyno'd 195whp with nothing else done. Amazing, i've seen two actual sheets of stock tcs with just the s/c, both dyno'd between 185whp-190whp but never broke 190's. I might also point out, there are quite a few people on here, with h/e s/c set ups not breaking 200whp, which also goes with the 180's and not 190's.

Every thread you try to prove me wrong in something, i never said nothing was off. If you read my post you would see i said the 3'' s-pipe is pretty large, and the belt could be slipping. Both replacing both of those like you said, the gains would be very small. Probably still be in the 220's. You are arguing with me the difference of up to 5whp? Give me a break.

:rofl: :rofl: Did someone put salt instead of sugar in your coffee this morning? No one was arguing bro, chill out. I was just merely stating that he could see a little more gain if he did do the suggestions that people were making. I was just trying to confirm it for you. Where you say these #'s were "Acceptable", I was just saying, he could definitely squeeze out more by dropping down to a 2.5" instead of the 3" he has. Because that's what we are all about RIGHT....Squeezing every last Drop of HP out of the mods we have?

That's all son, nothing more, nothing less...

PS...Trust me, I have bitten my tounge on some of your comments more than I care to remember.

Like i said before, if he replaced the 3'' s-pipe with a 2.5'' s-pipe, he would have a slight gain with whp and he would more than likely increase 10wtq.

Also, one person dyno'd 195whp with nothing else done. Amazing, i've seen two actual sheets of stock tcs with just the s/c, both dyno'd between 185whp-190whp but never broke 190's. I might also point out, there are quite a few people on here, with h/e s/c set ups not breaking 200whp, which also goes with the 180's and not 190's.

Every thread you try to prove me wrong in something, i never said nothing was off. If you read my post you would see i said the 3'' s-pipe is pretty large, and the belt could be slipping. Both replacing both of those like you said, the gains would be very small. Probably still be in the 220's. You are arguing with me the difference of up to 5whp? Give me a break.

:rofl: :rofl: Did someone put salt instead of sugar in your coffee this morning? No one was arguing bro, chill out. I was just merely stating that he could see a little more gain if he did do the suggestions that people were making. I was just trying to confirm it for you. Where you say these #'s were "Acceptable", I was just saying, he could definitely squeeze out more by dropping down to a 2.5" instead of the 3" he has. Because that's what we are all about RIGHT....Squeezing every last Drop of HP out of the mods we have?

That's all son, nothing more, nothing less...

PS...Trust me, I have bitten my tounge on some of your comments more than I care to remember.

Everything you are saying though, is something i had already said as far as the s-pipe goes. Yes, we are all about making more whp but the way it sounded, at least to me, was it would make the difference of like 20whp and 224 is just way too low. Maybe i misread what you were saying, i dont know.

To me, 224whp is right on the money. Yes, you could do a few things a possibly squeeze out another 5-7whp but thats not a big enough difference to be able to tell. 224-230whp in that range, to me, is dead on. It could be a little more, but like i said before, 5whp isn't even worth worrying about. Especially when you talk about completely re-doing the S-pipe for. To be honest, he shouldn't have gone with 3'' to start with so thats his mistake. His intensions were well, don't get me wrong but yeah.

Also, i'm sure you have held back on some of my comments. But i think basically hijacking an entire si-tc thread is enough for the community. People were talking about the name being changed to rythmnsmoke vs. killerxromances i mean.. You actually have to try to accomplish that. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I didn't care for a lot of the crap that was going on in the si/tC thread, but Killerxromances posts in this thread so far have not been derogatory or critical really at all & I respect that. Let's stop this where it is, so we don't ruin another thread. Going back to killer's original post, he was giving credit to the OP, basically saying good work & that he should be proud of those #s.

I didn't care for a lot of the crap that was going on in the si/tC thread, but Killerxromances posts in this thread so far have not been derogatory or critical really at all & I respect that. Let's stop this where it is, so we don't ruin another thread. Going back to killer's original post, he was giving credit to the OP, basically saying good work & that he should be proud of those #s.

None of my posts on the si threads, or this one have been derogatory, maybe some of you guys read my posts out to be that way. But when discussing the tC, i have always stated i respect it.

Now as for this thread, yes, my posts have been talking about just that. 224whp is a respectable number given the mods he has. While a 3'' s-pipe is rather large, its not going to change it to an extreme number. However, i think it would help in the torque area the most. Which, most tC owners perfer torque over anything so yeah. The belt could be slipping, but i don't know. I've heard a few stories on that, some say the belts are fine some say it slips. Either way, you should swap belts. You should also upgrade the clutch too if you haven't already.

oh damn.... :nails: :nails: to i sense a rhthmnsmoke vs killerxromances again???

nah jk guys

People were talking about the name being changed to rythmnsmoke vs. killerxromances

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: i believe that was me haha :silly:

oh damn.... :nails: :nails: to i sense a rhthmnsmoke vs killerxromances again???

nah jk guys

People were talking about the name being changed to rythmnsmoke vs. killerxromances

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: i believe that was me haha :silly:

Nope, i think your senses are off. :P The last one got old fast, and about 1/3rd of the way through it was boring.

Anyway, 224whp...yeah.

if this post train was back on the tracks; the dyno numbers are still strong for the mods done, and seem comparable to others with somewhat similar set ups ( but these aren't IROC cars, so even with the same mods, there can/will be some slight variations from car to car ). Maybe the belt is an issue, maybe the exhaust diameter could affect it, or even the temp/humidity when tests were ran ( sorry, but up here in WI i have no idea on CA weather ). Sometimes even with all the info available to the user, there is still some trial and error to find that right "package" or set up that works on that car, for that driver.
I'd say he's pretty close, and with some tweaking might just hit the numbers he's hoping for. I'd be curious, knowing the traction problems with just the sc, what you guys are doing ( with the extra 20-30 +/- hp/tq over our ride ) to get solid starts off the line... i wouldn't think just tires would make that much of a difference on a front driver, but who knows....

im not going to say who is right or who is wrong and i really appreciate everyones comments. Im going to stick with a 3" setup becasue from my experience and the experience of others it has only gained power, not lost power. But im done with that argument until someone can prove that its too big, not just stating an opinion.

Anyway regardless whether the belt is slipping im still going to change it tomorrow, i think that may be the reason why im not hitting 9psi, we will see.

I guess to clear some things up i should explain my goals for the car. My ulitmate HP goal is 250whp and torque im looking for around 200, but like i said earlier im looking for more top end. My only other plans are an intercooler to get the temps down and some fine tuning of the ecu, and i think i should be able to obtain my goals.

Again i really appreciate everyones opinions and i understand there are a lot of knowledgeable people here, all with different outlooks and experiences. overall i am happy with my overall output, my only dissapointment was not seeing the gains from the pulley that other people have been seeing, but that could be due to belt slippage possibly caused buy the warmer and more humid climate, or simple differences from car to car and pulley to pulley who knows. if i feel any differences or see any differences in the gauge after doing the belt i will let you all know

thanks again

oh damn.... :nails: :nails: to i sense a rhthmnsmoke vs killerxromances again???

nah jk guys

People were talking about the name being changed to rythmnsmoke vs. killerxromances

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: i believe that was me haha :silly:

Nope, i think your senses are off. :P The last one got old fast, and about 1/3rd of the way through it was boring.

Anyway, 224whp...yeah.


....we should just take it to the track and get it over with... :P


Anyhow, OutCrnrU, keep up the good work man. Tweak around, and see what you can come up with. Good luck, and God Speed.

....we should just take it to the track and get it over with... :P


You cant say that yet...you dont have your turbo :lalala:

....we should just take it to the track and get it over with... :P


You cant say that yet...you dont have your turbo :lalala:



:silly: I might get me a GSX-R 600 first. Then get some boost on our tC. Haven't made up my mind yet.

....we should just take it to the track and get it over with... :P


You cant say that yet...you dont have your turbo :lalala:



:silly: I might get me a GSX-R 600 first. Then get some boost on our tC. Haven't made up my mind yet.

Now your talkin...what about the new R6 :love:

....we should just take it to the track and get it over with... :P


You cant say that yet...you dont have your turbo :lalala:



:silly: I might get me a GSX-R 600 first. Then get some boost on our tC. Haven't made up my mind yet.

Now your talkin...what about the new R6 :love:

I like them, but I'm just a Gixxer fan... I like Suzuki bikes, and their styling.

On the track, I prefer a Yamaha, but on the Street, I would rep. the Suzuki.

The thing I love about my R6 is the ability to tune the bike without getting a power commander....The ECU has the ability to be adjusted by grounding out the number 29 pin and doing a diagnostics tune through the computer.

That's NIIIICCCCEEE.... I might have to think about that one.

go to the 1/4.

im going on wednesday the weather should be nice here, ill keep you all updated with times if i go

PS I want an r6 too :bow:

im going on wednesday the weather should be nice here, ill keep you all updated with times if i go

PS I want an r6 too :bow:

To bad your in Cali. Can always use riding buddies.

1/4? Do you have the stock tires, or some better ones?

i have Kumho SPT tires, not the greatest for drag, but better than stock

all this talk about different pullies on the TRD S/C, doesnt that void the warranty? Thats the only reason I would get the S/C is to stay under warranty.

all this talk about different pullies on the TRD S/C, doesnt that void the warranty? Thats the only reason I would get the S/C is to stay under warranty.


YEP.

well I guess if I decide to void the warranty I know which FI i will be getting.

well I guess if I decide to void the warranty I know which FI i will be getting.


Why do you think we went Turbo... :question:

I knew why you did, I just dont understand someone going s/c and voiding the best part about it, the warranty

Lets bring back a dead thread.. lol...

I would suggest going turbo.. hell I want to also.. I wish I could go back to stock form, sell all my S/C stuff and go turbo..

not trying to bring up a dead thread, just started posting on this site.

its no big deal..

at least someone uses the search function. :D

I knew why you did, I just dont understand someone going s/c and voiding the best part about it, the warranty

Not everyone wants to go the same route. All personal preference. If it was as easy as this is better than this. We would all be driving an Identical car and there would be no need for more than one kit on the market.

So turbo lovers, love your turbos, and quit bashing supercharger lovers. (not intended at you GreddytC)

more power to you Nick06tc, I am all about being unique when it comes to modding my car, my wrx, that is I am sure I am one of the only wagons running around with red wheels LOL

Just for the record, I just wanna say, I've never bashed a S/C a day in my life..... :lalala:


:P J/K guys. But I have said that ANY F/I is GOOD F/I. Just a matter of what your shooting for. Good luck in whatever endevor you choose.

at least someone uses the search function. :D

AMEN!

at least someone uses the search function. :D

Im new to this board not forums in general, I too hate it when people dont use the search feature, but I also hate it when people arent polite when asking people to use the search feature, alot of people are new this and dont fully understand.

Welcome to SL then. :D Your far from being a n00b now.