Well i don't think i want to get the system from the Dealer, so do any of you have any suggestions on brands/types of alarm systems for the tC? Preferably i want one with a "Remote Start" feature so i can show off haha. I was looking around and i came across the "Clifford Solaris G5" but i haven't found any reviews. So yah, i would appreciate some feedback :lol: ok Thanks guys.

Edit:
Not sure if i should've asked this question now, since no one even has a tC yet haha. i am planning on getting mine ASAP. Hopefully there is no Crappy Wait-List! HmMmM now i have to figure if i should buy in San Diego or Los Angeles :? (ie. Kearny Mesa, Longo, or North Hollywood, HmMm the choices)

Hey there,

About a year ago my stereo got jacked and someone came out to my house to install new stuff. I asked him what good alarms are and who installs them and he reccomendded cliffords. He seemed very knowledgeable. Around here Acme Tops and Tunes is supposed to be reputable.

Personaly I plan on investing in a Clifford when I get my TC, but I've also heard good things about Compustar.

Hey there,

Around here Acme Tops and Tunes is supposed to be reputable.

Personaly I plan on investing in a Clifford when I get my TC, but I've also heard good things about Compustar.

Cool Thanks for the reply. i'll look into Compustar as well. On a side note, can any of you recommend a place where i can buy and have them install a new security system (clifford remote start maybe) in San Diego or in Los Angeles. I was looking in some Chinese Mag and found some shops around Alahambra, but then again, those deals might just be for chinese haha jk :D Ok thanks for your replies

I had a compustar alarm on my vette a couple years ago.....For 350 bones, I had installed a compustar alarm (model, not sure).....I was very pleased with it...

It had dual stage vibration/impact sensors (pretty standard)
Proximity sensor (worked excellent with the ragtop down or windows down)
the fob had a display that warned you when the alarm was going off...I had it go off a couple times when I was in class, it told my the alarm was tripped, so I went and checked on it, everything was ok but it's nice to know when someone might be messing with your car...
Also, as with other brands it had a starter interrupt...

Other options on the alarm include engine start and another cool one:
If someone car jacks it and takes off or robs you and says to give him the keys to the car and takes off with it...you give him the keys, let him drive off and when he's like a half mile away, hit a button on your fob (as long as you didn't give it to the car jacker) and the engine will be shutoff.

You could also program it to put your windows down/open trunk/etc.

Hope this helps...

i plan on getting an aftermarket alarm too. i dont want my car to get jacked or broken into. so far i think im going with clifford.

So the tC is going to have "Keyless Entry" standard right? but the alarm optional?? or does keyless entry always come along with an alarm? not too sure about these things. all i know is that i want an alarm and a "Remote Start" :lol: So yah, anyone have any suggestions on a place to get Clifford Alarms in San Diego, or in LA (preferably around Alhambra, San Gabriel, area's)
K thanks for the replies :P

im going with a Clifford Matrix 3.5, thats one of the best systems u can buy. it has remote start and a 2-way pager that lets u kniow whats goin on with ur ride from almost a mile away! $500 installed but still worth it. has a $2500 gaurantee on it i think...but i rec. this system

im going with a Clifford Matrix 3.5, thats one of the best systems u can buy. it has remote start and a 2-way pager that lets u kniow whats goin on with ur ride from almost a mile away! $500 installed but still worth it. has a $2500 gaurantee on it i think...but i rec. this system

With the Matrix 3.5, on the remote, does it have a backlight. So if its dark you will know what's going on with out turning on a light? just curious, and if so, what color backlight. I guess i'll start looking around for a place that has these bad boys for a good price :D

Also, what do you think about the Clifford G5 Solaris 5?

K Thanks :D

yeah it does have a black light, i dont know what color but i know it does. the remote will tell you everything thats going on with your ride. I dont really know anything about the other system.

Can anyone recommend a place to get a Clifford Alarm System installed either in San Diego, or in Los Angeles (preferably Alhambra, San Gabriel, Pasadena area)

I've been looking around, and i really like the Clifford Matrix RSX 3.5. It would be cool.

Do any of you know by any chance around how much it would cost to get one of these installed? I can get one of these systems for about $300 on-line. I'm just curious how much should i expect to pay to have it installed. Or would it be cheaper to buy the system at a place that would install it as well?

K thanks again for the replies :D

I going to be paying $500 installed. I found it for $300 too, but installation takes almost 4 hours because it has so much stuff with this alarm. youll pay about $500 installed.

So anyone know of a place in LA (ie Alhambra, San Gabriel, RoseMead, Pasadena, Monterey Park) or in San Diego (ie, Mira Mesa, Clairemont Mesa)????
:?:

Bump because i'm bored haha :P

Please tell me these Clifford alarms shut down the electrical or something major. I used to live in San Diego and noone ever looked when an alarm went off. They were everywhere and constantly going off so everyone ignored them. The alarms only stopped the amateurs.

A friend of mine was at a club and his truck was in a parking lot across the street (4 lanes). When he walked out of the club there was a person working on getting in his car. By the time he made it across the street the guy was pulling out of the parking lot with it. Basically alarms are worthless unless they can disable the vehicle. Well, they are cool for show but other than that...

If you have a remote start and the car is a manual transmission and you leave the transmission in 1st gear, will the car still start, would that cause the car to stall and possibly make the car surge forward and stall. Has anyone heard what happens?

If you have a remote start and the car is a manual transmission and you leave the transmission in 1st gear, will the car still start, would that cause the car to stall and possibly make the car surge forward and stall. Has anyone heard what happens?

what will happen is that the car will try to start and it will stall. the only problem is that it will try a few times (3 with a viper) and every time it will attempt to lunge forward so if your e-brake is not on real strong there is a chance that you will hit watever is in front of you. this is the reason that most shops do not reccomend/do remote start on manual transmission cars. hope that helps. btw, im thinkin of getting a viper 791xv

I heard the Clifford G5 is a good system.

It has a pager to let you know that your car is being attacked as well as a standard alarm built in.

Depending on the transmission (auto/manual) it even starts your car by remote.

I kind of got stuck with the Scion Alarm.

Way overpriced and not even a pager :(

You can pick this system up at BestBuy.

www.scionspecialties.com , :wink: do it yourself alarms, spend a day in the driveway, save $$$ :D

Please tell me these Clifford alarms shut down the electrical or something major. I used to live in San Diego and noone ever looked when an alarm went off. They were everywhere and constantly going off so everyone ignored them. The alarms only stopped the amateurs.

A friend of mine was at a club and his truck was in a parking lot across the street (4 lanes). When he walked out of the club there was a person working on getting in his car. By the time he made it across the street the guy was pulling out of the parking lot with it. Basically alarms are worthless unless they can disable the vehicle. Well, they are cool for show but other than that...

It's true people don't really pay attention to the alarm noise, but if your alarm has a paging system, its nice to know when it went off. Also, i doubt they could steal the car if it has an autolock haha. i basically want an alarm because i want my car to get some sort of attention if they are tryin to steal something inside (stereo, speakers, whatever). Better to have an alarm than no alarm i think. :P

would be nice to program an alarm to yell out obsceneties about Police :)

Try driving that around and not draw the attention of a police cruiser.

And no I don't hate cops :D

having remote start on a standard is really not an option... the only safe way would be to have a sensor on the transmission that could tell if you were in neutral, not a difficult fix, but will require some brain power to develop it... most install shops will NOT install it for you...

starter kill is much more important than a loud siren, a pager is just a pain in the butt... having to carry a separate device that you might need once?? ok, so now you know some thug is at your car... what are you gonna do??

save your money, make your car blend, don't mount the amp rack right up against the glass, close the flap on the stereo... don't "boom" where you park your car, that's just advertising... this is just logic... I only had my system ripped off once, and he was a "friend"... needless to say, after an ___ whooping, we called it even - I lost my P.O.S. MDF box ($12)...

you can get a starter kill alarm for $100... two stage shock sensor, intrusion detection - included... remote start adds a few bucks... if you can read, you can install most simpler systems... my first alarm was $49, literally a two wire hookup - one to ground, one to battery - it sensed when the dome light kicked on and the shock sensor was built into the housing...

viper 791xv is my choice....i had and no probs, gets a thumbs up from me....

There is a standard tranny clutch bypass made by peripheral. In order to remote start your car you have to have the e-brake up leave car in neutral while running get out of the car and then arm the car. By following those steps you can remote start your car upon next entry, Although if the door has been open and the steps were not followed it will not allow you to start your car. The bypass is a pain in the ___ to install sometimes but does prevent you from sending your car through the garage in the morning.

There is a standard tranny clutch bypass made by peripheral. In order to remote start your car you have to have the e-brake up leave car in neutral while running get out of the car and then arm the car. By following those steps you can remote start your car upon next entry, Although if the door has been open and the steps were not followed it will not allow you to start your car. The bypass is a pain in the ___ to install sometimes but does prevent you from sending your car through the garage in the morning.

Ok here's my dilemma now. I saw the Clifford Matrix RSX 3.5 at Fry's for $500 installed, and that includes LIFETIME Warranty from them.
I like the fact that there's a lifetime warranty, and i know that Fry's will be around and is at every large city in CA.

Now if i decide to get one of these installed at a local shop, they MIGHT have the lifetime warranty, BUT if there is a problem then i would HAVE to go to THAT same Local Shop i had it installed. Also, what if that shop goes out of business, then i'm screwed. On the "Plus" side, it would be much cheaper than $500. But then again you get what you pay for right???

HmMm What do you think? Getting an Alarm installed at a big reputable store (Fry's, BestBuys, GoodGuys, etc) or some local shop wher eyou will save $$$$ :?:

Ok thanks for they help :)

you will probably get a better job at the smaller shop. and if there is a problem, they will take care of it right away, thats the way I do things, my kumare bought a video system from fry's, it broke in five month's, they wanted to charge them $50 to take it out, I did it for free. why did they go there first, her husand the amerikano want brand name, now for her car, bibilhin na lang daw nila sa'kin. BIll

True a smaller shop would do a better job, BUT then as i said, what IF that small shop went out of business. then where would i go IF i had a problem? Frys' like i said, has a life time warranty and Fry's is all over the big cities. where as the small shop would be just there :P
But yah, hmm still debating. Anyother opinions on this :D

Oh yah, too bad you're in Vegas scionspecialistvegas, we could've done some business :) g'luck with your business though pare.

Ill be having mine installed at Circuit City, some of them have really good installers like the one I work at, plus I get half off on the install which is awsome.

Ill be having mine installed at Circuit City, some of them have really good installers like the one I work at, plus I get half off on the install which is awsome.

What is the cost at circuit city? does circuit city even have the Clifford Matrix RSX 3.5??

What is the cost at circuit city? does circuit city even have the Clifford Matrix RSX 3.5??[/quote]

I would suggest you go to Fry's to get it. There warranty and work is very good.

Fry's has it for $500 installed. with lifetime warranty. :lol:

Still debating whether to get it at a local shop where it would be cheaper overall, or Fry's with their lifetime warranty. HmMmMmMm

Fry's has it for $500 installed. with lifetime warranty. :lol:

Still debating whether to get it at a local shop where it would be cheaper overall, or Fry's with their lifetime warranty. HmMmMmMm

there are like high school kids who work at fry's.... i wouldnt trust them with my beater, much less my tC when i get it.

So any other suggestions :?:

so i assume that by you all talking about getting after market security systems that the tC will not come with an alarm system?

An alarm systems sounds like a good idea, but there are a few things that will probably stop me from getting one.

1. the keyless entry in built into the tC's key. I would feel retarderd with a second key fob.

2. The alarm systems just make noise. It does not stop alot of thiefs, and it is more likly to be set off by a bird or some thing. If nobody cares that your car is being broken into, then they probably dont care that the car that is being broken into is making noise.

3. The tC has a transponder in the key. So the tC is basicly impossible to hotwire without a key from toyota (atleast as my understanding of transponders go). That means the only thing a thief can hope to steal is the stereo or something in your car, not the whole car.

4. Money. I will be lucky to ba able to afford a tC, let alone an alarm system. Even if my stereo gets stolen, I can use that money to buy a new one.

5. Remote Start is sounds kind of cool. But not worth the money just to get my car warmed up. And I plan to get a manual so that will not work.

Last time I heard, an alarm is adjustable. You can set it on how sensitive you want it. A neighbor of mine has his set for too sensitive so it goes off when a car drives by. In my neighbor hood, if an alarm goes off for more than say 20-30 seconds, everyone walks outside to see whats going one...except the guys car that goes off all the time.
Also, I believe (may be wrong) that with an alarm system by scion, there will be no extra "doodad" hangin on your keychain. It will be all on your key. But thats with scion, i dont know how aftermarkets are.
If a thief is dedicated, or even skilled, he will steal your car...alarm or not...haven't you seen gone in 60 seconds? =o)

My tC will probably not be worth as much as a 67' Ford GT, atleast not for a while :wink: .

transponder in the key? Ford chevy and gm and honda all have a similar feature and they are all at the top of list for stolen cars. There is module out that is is used for remote starts that thieves can buy over the counter to buy pass the transponder key.

If an alarm is set up properly, birds and garbage trucks are not going to set it off, and if you make as loud on the inside as the outside, the thief will back off. A properly installed alarm will deter a thief, if he really wants its a flatbed truck is in order, but hte alarm will still be going off while on the flatbed. Bill

True an alarm just makes noise, but it's better than no noise haha. HmMmM now that i think about it, i really just want the Remote Start haha. But having an alarm shouldn't hurt, and wouldn't having an alarm lower your insurance rate??
I just dont want my new sub and speakers to get stolen you know.

Oh yah, the tC does NOT have a standard Security system. it has a standard keyless entry, which is kind of odd, but oh well, that's how they make money.

Oh yah, and what i like about that clifford is the LCD Pager haha, but then again, its not really a neccessity, so i will see what other options are out there.

If i should even get an after market alarm, or just install a remote start.

the Many choices. I still can't decided whether or not to leave a deposit haha :P

Bump :lol:

From what I understand, the car has an alarm as well but does not have the glass break sensor. Whenyou pay the $469 for the security the only thing you are getting is the glass break sensor which plugs into the existing system...

So right now a thief can break your windows but if he opens the door and alarm goes off.

When i talked to the dealer last sunday, he said that there was no security system, just the keyless entry. so yah

Anyways, i wanted to bring this back on topic because i wanted to know what would be my options for a security system with an alarm start. The only good option i've seen was the Clifford RSx 3.5. But $500 and there's still tax :evil: Any other options out there?

Also, how hard is it to actually install an alarm, if i just buy the alarm by itself. ok yah that's about it haha

You guys are missing the fact that the factory alarm system from scion is NOT two-way like most after-market... That means when someone chucks a rock at your car and the alarm goes off and you're at your friends house rocking to some hardcore music... You wouldn't know your car just got owned...

Now with most aftermarket... The little car alarm thing that you put on your keychain will vibrate/make noises (depending on what company)... While a factory scion key will act like nothing happened ;p

So...

Aftermarket Pros
TWO-Way
Optional Remote Start (Manual DOES work for some)

Aftermarket Cons
Extra POS on your key-chain
It's aftermarket :x

Factory Pros
It's right on your key
It's right from scion

Factory Cons
It's right on your key
It's right from scion

(No that's not a typo)

Yup i love the 2-way page feature, and i like the Remote Start too, but yah, I still need some advice on a brand :? Ok thanks again =)

Bump again :lol:

The tC does NOT have a transponder (or Immobilizer) in the key. The give-away was the valet key that they give you. If it starts with that (and mine does), then no transponder. It also means you can get extra keys made at Home Depot for $2, as opposed to bending over at the dealer for an $80 coded key. Good news.

As for the alarms, most of the big chains are fine for having systems installed. I know Best Buy requires MECP certifications, so do alot of the smaller mom and pop shops. Not sure on Fry's, Ultimate, Good Guys, or Circuit City.

Clifford was bought (assimilated) by DEI about 4 years ago. Directed security products are far and away the best stuff on the market.

The tC does NOT have a transponder (or Immobilizer) in the key. The give-away was the valet key that they give you. If it starts with that (and mine does), then no transponder. It also means you can get extra keys made at Home Depot for $2, as opposed to bending over at the dealer for an $80 coded key. Good news.

As for the alarms, most of the big chains are fine for having systems installed. I know Best Buy requires MECP certifications, so do alot of the smaller mom and pop shops. Not sure on Fry's, Ultimate, Good Guys, or Circuit City.

Clifford was bought (assimilated) by DEI about 4 years ago. Directed security products are far and away the best stuff on the market.

So the key does not have a 'Chip.' Because the salesman was talking about that, saying 'the cool thing is that you need this key to start the car since it has a chip in it'

Hmmm, i guess i'll wait for more opinions on this. But if it does hav an immobilizer, i just have to buy an immobilizer piece correct? thanks for the response :D

THE KEY IS CHIPPED.... read the manual...

Fry's has it for $500 installed. with lifetime warranty. :lol:

Still debating whether to get it at a local shop where it would be cheaper overall, or Fry's with their lifetime warranty. HmMmMmMm

there are like high school kids who work at fry's.... i wouldnt trust them with my beater, much less my tC when i get it.

Jeez - whoever thought Fry's does good work obviously hasn't spent much time there. They consistently have the stupidest people I've ever met working there. I'd definitely go to a small shop. If it breaks soon, they'll be there. If it breaks in 10 years, you won't care anyway.

Then why do copies of the key start the car? If it is chipped, then its broken.

Aftermarket alarms are far surperior to any factory system. You can add whatever options you want. Want the alarm to roll down your windows, sunroof, turn on your headlights, then just program/wire it to do that.

DEI makes the best alarms. Viper/clifford are both made by DEI.

The tC does NOT have a transponder (or Immobilizer) in the key. The give-away was the valet key that they give you. If it starts with that (and mine does), then no transponder. It also means you can get extra keys made at Home Depot for $2, as opposed to bending over at the dealer for an $80 coded key. Good news.



That's odd...the dealer told me that the valet key also was chipped. Has anyone actually tried to get a copy made at home depot and started the car with it? That's pretty blatant false advertising if there is indeed no immobilizer at all installed in the car.

The chip itself can be very small, as i had an old roommate who had one installed in his civic, and the thing was a small key fob about the size of a quarter, so i believe its on the valet key as well.

Again... Read the manual..... It explains how not to have two keys together or a piece of metal laying over the top of the key while starting the car or the car wil not start or may shut off soon after starting because of interference with the chip...

COPIES will not work unless you get it copied using the metal keycode that comes on the keychain...... All 3 keys are chipped.....

i was also thinking about an aftermarket alarm and the scion security. At first I did want the Matrix 3.5 2-way, but to me I dont know what I would do if I found out someone was breakin into my xB. I was also thinking the scion security may be good. I know for the price no, but its a factory alarm and if there anything wrong with it they will fix everything wrong with it. So im still up in the air on an alarm, i really dont have $ right now to get it anyway. If i do get an alarm I will probably have it installed at Circuit City, Ultimate, or Best Buy. I think the big stores are the best to go to cuz they gotta be certified. Some smaller shope I dont know about, you gotta really watch where you go u know...? laterz.

Edit. It does have a chipped key. I was fooled by the dealer giving me a regular copy of the key, that started the car (at the dealership). I didn't realize it at the time, but it was probably because I had a chipped key on the same keychain. My bad.

Edit. It does have a chipped key. I was fooled by the dealer giving me a regular copy of the key, that started the car (at the dealership). I didn't realize it at the time, but it was probably because I had a chipped key on the same keychain. My bad.

So what's the point of the dealership giving you a regular copy of the key if it will not start the car without have the chipped key??? :roll:

I'm interested on what people's experience's are with after market alarms - I'm looking into maybe adding one of the viper 2 way systems with remote start when I finally get around to purchasing the tc (a few weeks - and yes I know, I'll have to wait ;) ) . I'm curious if there are any problems or issues having remote start and the stock engine immobilizer or anything else that anyone has encountered...?

many thanks for any input.

Edit. It does have a chipped key. I was fooled by the dealer giving me a regular copy of the key, that started the car (at the dealership). I didn't realize it at the time, but it was probably because I had a chipped key on the same keychain. My bad.
The valet key has a chip too. I don't know that a dealer would make you a "regular copy of the key", nor why they would want to. It would only open the doors and glove compartment. The valet key doesn't have the keyless entry/alarm stuff on it, and it can't open the glove compartment, but it works for everything else.

I'm interested on what people's experience's are with after market alarms - I'm looking into maybe adding one of the viper 2 way systems with remote start when I finally get around to purchasing the tc (a few weeks - and yes I know, I'll have to wait ;) ) . I'm curious if there are any problems or issues having remote start and the stock engine immobilizer or anything else that anyone has encountered...?

many thanks for any input.

OK let me share with you guys my nightmare story of getting an aftermarket alarm. I wanted to go to a brand-name store just so I know if something goes wrong later down the line I can always come back for the warranty. Who knows how long a small shop will stay in business? So about a month ago i went down to Best Buy. There I found the alarm I wanted, an Audiovox alarm with a two way lcd pager ($350, free installation). The wait to install it was about 2 weeks. So I bought the alarm and waited. I bring it in 2 weeks later and they start working on it. I brought it in at like 9am and at 5pm they tell me there's a problem. The alarm is defective. So I exchanged it for another one of the same type and again another week wait. So they start installing it, and meanwhile i decide to chill at the store. A couple of hours later they tell me the alarm is defective too. Perhaps they got a bad bunch? And they start telling me to get the Viper one ($450). I said no, I want one for that price with the same features. After all they told me it should work with my car! So eventually the manager suggests getting an alarm at another shop ($250) and Best Buy installing it for $100. Some guy from the other shop delivered a Clifford Matrix Alarm (same features as the Audiovox, pager feature with lcd screen, etc...) and they install it at Best Buy. Took about 4 hours. I was there from 11-8:30. So now I have the Clifford installed on my car and so far so good. Best Buy gives a lifetime warranty. What lessons did I learn:
1. perhaps getting it done at a small shop isn't too bad of an idea.
2. Don't buy Audiovox alarms
3. Clifford Matrix seems like a good alarm
Still, I would rather waste all this time doing this then dish out $600 for the worthless Scion alarm.

Hope that helps.

russianTC,
thanks much exactly the type of input I was looking for ! Does anyone know if having remote start affects the engine disabler at all? (I keep coming across conflicting comments in the forum about how some systems require taking the chip from the key and putting it in a box in the car and some systems don't require that and etc., etc.,)?

thanks much!

I'm interested on what people's experience's are with after market alarms - I'm looking into maybe adding one of the viper 2 way systems with remote start when I finally get around to purchasing the tc (a few weeks - and yes I know, I'll have to wait ;) ) . I'm curious if there are any problems or issues having remote start and the stock engine immobilizer or anything else that anyone has encountered...?

many thanks for any input.

OK let me share with you guys my nightmare story of getting an aftermarket alarm. I wanted to go to a brand-name store just so I know if something goes wrong later down the line I can always come back for the warranty. Who knows how long a small shop will stay in business? So about a month ago i went down to Best Buy. There I found the alarm I wanted, an Audiovox alarm with a two way lcd pager ($350, free installation). The wait to install it was about 2 weeks. So I bought the alarm and waited. I bring it in 2 weeks later and they start working on it. I brought it in at like 9am and at 5pm they tell me there's a problem. The alarm is defective. So I exchanged it for another one of the same type and again another week wait. So they start installing it, and meanwhile i decide to chill at the store. A couple of hours later they tell me the alarm is defective too. Perhaps they got a bad bunch? And they start telling me to get the Viper one ($450). I said no, I want one for that price with the same features. After all they told me it should work with my car! So eventually the manager suggests getting an alarm at another shop ($250) and Best Buy installing it for $100. Some guy from the other shop delivered a Clifford Matrix Alarm (same features as the Audiovox, pager feature with lcd screen, etc...) and they install it at Best Buy. Took about 4 hours. I was there from 11-8:30. So now I have the Clifford installed on my car and so far so good. Best Buy gives a lifetime warranty. What lessons did I learn:
1. perhaps getting it done at a small shop isn't too bad of an idea.
2. Don't buy Audiovox alarms
3. Clifford Matrix seems like a good alarm
Still, I would rather waste all this time doing this then dish out $600 for the worthless Scion alarm.

Hope that helps.

wow seems like you were through some ____ there... I got an audiovox 996A alarm... for 350 including tax and installed from a local shop and it was done in an hr.. working so far so good, only thing is, the range isn't that far.. does yours work when your in a mall or something?

wow seems like you were through some ____ there... I got an audiovox 996A alarm... for 350 including tax and installed from a local shop and it was done in an hr.. working so far so good, only thing is, the range isn't that far.. does yours work when your in a mall or something?
The range is pretty good, it doesn't do too well going thru walls but out in the open it's a decent range...better then my Scion keyless entry. I can unlock it from about a block away or so? The real test will come on Sept 10th when I'm going to the Scion event at Marine World...the parking lot will be full of Scions!

Here's a stupid question. Is it work getting an alarm with a start kill? The tC has an engine immobilizer standard right?

Mostly I want an alarm because I have to park on the street, and atleast once a week we get a moron tearing by at 60. My girlfriends had the side mirror torn of her car, and a couple of my neighbours have had their cars sideswiped. I like the two way feature but I won't carry around a pager and Im not going to chance remote start with a manual.


any recommendations?

Fuel cutoff switch. A stater disable can always be bypassed. I have lots of friends that have gotten they car stolen although they had an alarm. Don't get me wrong, a two pager alarm would warn you what's going on, true. But guess what it's not that hard to pull the plug on the battery to stop the alarm and have a little time to bypass the starter kill. It's really not, I've tried it. A hidden fuel cutoff is one of the best solutions, it's cheap and really effective. Alongside iwth the transponder key, it would be troublesome to steal the car. Thieves/jackers aren't looking for the hardest thing to jack, they're looking for the quickest and easiest. But then again if someone really wants your car, all they need a flatbed or a little tow truck. Just my 2 cents.