I am looking for a group of scion owners to get a group/team started. We can attend car shows and steal away the comptetion and make a big name for ourselves as a team. Lets get it started looking for a poll, please list your name and if you would like to attend. We would split expeneses like hotel fees, etc.... what do you think about team Fusion let me know bc car show season has stared and we need to get started ASAP. It will be a fun way to meet new people and give support to our fellow members in a show. :P

sorry i have forgot to mention where this would be at, well i am located in malakoff , about hour and a half from dallas so i figured we would be located in dfw, meetings monthly or dependant on when a show is coming up to discus meeting time and entrance, etc.., so we could travel to the texas/ surrounding area shows, hopefully get some magazine time, maybe some movie experience dependin on what comes our way. I want this to be the next big team emtion except with only scion. If you have anymore ?'s just let me know, I need your interst

Check out my hangar and see if there is anything you are interested in going to with me, I have a show that I am planning to go to almost everyweekend.

i'm interested. let's see if more people are too. hell hanging out with Cody, there's a chance to win at pretty much any show...lol.

his xA rocks....literally

that is until my secrect project is finished :)

arent u already a scikotics? why dont you roll out with them?

he's not talking about a club. he's talking about a competition team for shows. it can be anyone, not just scikotics.

a competition team? going to be with scion itself? or just another scion group? any details besides a team? whos working wit u or u just doing this by yourself wit some freinds? i just wanna know more or less what exactly your puttin out there? dont get me wrong im just lookin for facts about this.... since every show is going to have competion itself....

Scikotics Low Lifes! That's the group of Scikotics that are at shows to compete. The rest are there to support the club and take home the best club trophies! That's what I'm ta'n 'bout.

I'm always loyal to scikotics. You could make this a scikotics street team.

Scikotics Low Lifes! That's the group of Scikotics that are at shows to compete.

So there's a team that is part of Scikotics already? That might be a better approach. I like the idea of it being part of our group better than a separate thing.

More info please?

I'm interested.

So there's a team that is part of Scikotics already? That might be a better approach. I like the idea of it being part of our group better than a separate thing.

More info please?

Well, it's been discussed of having like...two tiered membership. I dunno what's going on with it exactly. Scikotics is all about the club as a whole. A lot of car shows have group participation and then vehicle judging. We talked about having the Low Lifes which are the people that compete in shows, and then the other members that are just there to be a part of the club, support the Low Lifes, help with club participation...that sort of thing. I really liked the idea, but nothing official ever came from it that I know of. Where you at Jon? :P

i currently live in Rio Grande City.... but i have a house in Temple (which i am visiting now) and i am interested in being a part of this group but i most likely coul not attend all of the meetings.... post back or pm me and we'll see whats up

:lalala: When Scikotics started last year, before it was nation wide, there was talk about having a group of the major modded members competing.
Along with names like HMFIC and all we weren't wanting a title like "elite". Low Lifes is a great name.
Nothing was ever decided on as far as requirements because Scikotics became more of an open membership and then exploded across the country.
It's a worthy idea to kick around. There are some awesome rides in Scikotics -- but bottom line is it's all about the family and not about the trophy (trophies are good though). Scikotics is about support, friendship, hanging out and having fun.

:clap: Opinions on it???

It's not all about the trophies...it's about THE TROPHY..."Best Club!"

:)

But, I'm down for it! I've got room for big fat "Low Life" lettering under my "www.scikotics.com" vinyl on the back window.

:lalala: When Scikotics started last year, before it was nation wide, there was talk about having a group of the major modded members competing.
Along with names like HMFIC and all we weren't wanting a title like "elite". Low Lifes is a great name.
Nothing was ever decided on as far as requirements because Scikotics became more of an open membership and then exploded across the country.
It's a worthy idea to kick around. There are some awesome rides in Scikotics -- but bottom line is it's all about the family and not about the trophy (trophies are good though). Scikotics is about support, friendship, hanging out and having fun.

:clap: Opinions on it???

Definately agree! I'm cool with what Scikotics stands for. Awesome cars, great friends and good times. Let's keep it that way then.

^^^ I wasn't saying not to do it -- just telling where it came from.

Speak up Jon.... where are you?? :lalala:

Well if it is alright with jon and the consensus then I would vote for this Low Lifes idea and be a member with my xA. 'course the Scikotics family would always be first with me. :)

hell it wasn't even my idea anyway...LOL

Actually, what i've seen happen in other clubs is that a team starts as a part of the club then eventually takes a life of it's own and splits. I'd rather stick with scikotics.

I'd never split. Sure I'm not down for life like Roger, but I wouldn't split.

any more posts that are not on topic and this thread will be locked and handled with accordingly.

The Low Lifes idea was one Shannon and I were kicking around last year.
It was meant to be kind of a club within a club for the hardcore show people.
We had even talked about charging dues for it to pay for entries, hotels, shirts, etc.

Does it sound like something people would be interested in?

sure! take my money! :P
naw, really though, right now no, but when i get more stuff done and off my to-do list then, sure!
and im sure there are others who can totally compete with this right now.

Would pay dues?? But car is not show ready :( However would still support this branch of the Scikotics.

^^ what he said :smile:

then what should we do, idont want to pay dues, ijust want a team that can bond and go to shows together to get the ultimate trophy and rep. what does everyone want to do, i want to be loyal but i want a team that just competes and what happened to some of my posts, they just majically diapeared? how many would want to do this off of scikotics but not have to pay dues? but still be loyal to the family. REMEMBER i am not going against the club i am just mearly starting a show team with whoever. We can either compete with/without scikotics. just let me know asap everyone shows are passing by as we speak!

My two cents say it will be a bad idea to create an elite group of show cars within our club. I love this club and won't stand in the way of progress at all, but based on gut instict I just feel it will put a rift in our club, and I like the fact that we are all equals, I don't feel like our HMFIC or VMFIC act like they are better than us, atleast in Dallas they are just another member who works their ___ off for us. Again just my 2 cents, but I would say be very careful if you decide to go this route.

i like your thinking all in for a sep. car club start listing your name, i dont care whether you car is stock mil wild or anything i just want a group to attend shows thanks

i don't think anyone is knocking the idea. as you see, we would be willing to do it as a part of Scikotics. What Jon is proposing makes sense. The dues are not ment to make anyone rich. They would be to pay for the club to register at the shows, etc.

Dealer shows are usually free, but the big stuff like HIN and Spring Break require a fee. Either way you go, you're paying money.

to far up north for me!

Can anyone even tell me what scikotics is about? I am sorry if this sounds blunt, or like I am an a$$hole, but honestly.. What makes scikotics different then being a part of this forum???

I am sure I am going to get nagged about this, and may even end up causing it to get locked, but oh well.. I really wanna know what the members think it is. I am trying to understand it.

lets get it stated just someone let me know is it frankinscion thats sets the price?Though my car is not heavily mod. as of right now will be in a month but not right now are they just wanting heavily mod. cars?

come to some of the activities and you'll see....i did..lol

just pm frakinscion ill post when i get the messege post after work tomorrow lets get the people in thanks! thank goodness we are finally starting get you cars ready lets do this!

I have been to them dude.. lol..

lets get it stated just someone let me know is it frankinscion thats sets the price?Though my car is not heavily mod. as of right now will be in a month but not right now are they just wanting heavily mod. cars?

The show determines the mods.

Here's how it is. I'd love to participate, but know sure as sh't that my car isn't ready to show. At least to start, it would be up to guys like Jon, Mike, Cody, etc. to take on those big shows (I know there are others so no haitin') if the team wants to have a chance.

Have you come out to some of the local shows? Try those first. If you can do well there, then think of the big leagues. Cody (sionpilot) invited you to some of the shows he's going to. Take him up on it and see what's out there...then decide.

can u pm on prices i was the originator of this thread lets get it started, although i s it ok that my car is not heavily mod. but will be shortly. Thge main purpse of this thread is to get a group together whether wild or mild to travel to a show and compete together as a team building rep. and wins is ok if some of the cars are mild and who will lead this?


I have no idea what the fees would be as we never really sat down and talked about it.

It's something we kicked around a bit last year, but never took off. I think the reason it never took off is a bunch of us already hit all the big shows under the Scikotics name. And I do think there is the possibility of it causing a rift by some people thinking they are better than others. And I certainly don't want that.

That's one thing we never wanted to do was have one group thinking they are better than everyone else in the club.

Plus, you would have divided interests at some shows. Some people would register under the Scikotics name like normal and some would register under Low Lifes.

I have no problem with you starting a competition team if that's what you want to do but I don't think it's the right time (if there is one) for Low Lifes. (You just can't use that name.....lol.)

We will be doing something with the Low Lifes name just cause I think it's funny.......lol.
We might make it a a special sticker or something you can get if you win a trophy. Then everyone could still register under Scikotics :ponder:

Can anyone even tell me what scikotics is about? I am sorry if this sounds blunt, or like I am an a$$hole, but honestly.. What makes scikotics different then being a part of this forum???

I am sure I am going to get nagged about this, and may even end up causing it to get locked, but oh well.. I really wanna know what the members think it is. I am trying to understand it.

The club does a lot more than just hang out on ScionLife, this just happens to be the most popular form of communication.

The club is about the people. It'sabout getting together with people who share the same interests as you and having fun.

"The cars bring us together, the people keep us together."

Can anyone even tell me what scikotics is about? I am sorry if this sounds blunt, or like I am an a$$hole, but honestly.. What makes scikotics different then being a part of this forum???

I am sure I am going to get nagged about this, and may even end up causing it to get locked, but oh well.. I really wanna know what the members think it is. I am trying to understand it.

The club does a lot more than just hang out on ScionLife, this just happens to be the most popular form of communication.

The club is about the people. It'sabout getting together with people who share the same interests as you and having fun.

"The cars bring us together, the people keep us together."

Just avoid the drama. He wouldn't understand.

if i was just a n0ob readint this i would say y make another team within a team to favor those who have already modded out rides.? y not just help each other out to achive the same goal an not be seperate from each other... its like insulting another member saying im a ''lowlife'' an your just scikotics? i think it would split up some members opinions an just go from there. to me scikotics is a nation wide club for scions of all sorts an kinds... if your going to do another club i say use a different name for your elite members only but than u will have 2 different names on the back or side..... i would ask stylewagons how to do this since they are an elite club an some of there guys are part of scikotics.,,, just my 2 cents..... an i dont know how it became a scikotic topic lol the guy was like lets make a competion club ... an i was thinkin it was going to be another scion club out there.....

Can anyone even tell me what scikotics is about? I am sorry if this sounds blunt, or like I am an a$$hole, but honestly.. What makes scikotics different then being a part of this forum???

I am sure I am going to get nagged about this, and may even end up causing it to get locked, but oh well.. I really wanna know what the members think it is. I am trying to understand it.

The club does a lot more than just hang out on ScionLife, this just happens to be the most popular form of communication.

The club is about the people. It'sabout getting together with people who share the same interests as you and having fun.

"The cars bring us together, the people keep us together."

Just avoid the drama. He wouldn't understand.


Woah there buddy. As I said in the beginning.. I am not trying to stat anything, just trying to figure it out.
As for you saying that I wouldnt understand. I have been the president of a car club. The only reason I am not still active in it is because I moved here to TX.
What happened to the club that I was the President of? Well, this is what I am trying to help you guys avoid. We were a club that was basically the same.. Brought together by cars, and kept together by the people. Not everyone of the people ing the club was into modifying cars. Some of the people ended up almost breaking the club up beause they didnt have the same goals for the club.
I am just saying that, by starting this club within the club could really hurt you guys by creating two different views within the same club.
If you want the club to be about the people, then make it about the people, if you want it about building car shows, then do that. Just dont try and mix them.

I hope you can understand what I am saying.
Think about it and you will get it.

I get what you are saying Mac. I say just let sleeping dogs lie. Although I do think it would be good if there was a scion show team of sorts that would go to the shows and tak on teams like 16Niss, Maybe as a Scion Show Team we could drum up some sponsors on our own and help get the enteries and hotels paid for. I do think it should be seperate from any of the clubs, unless if it were done in a club, the peeps that were in it were people that didnt think they were better than anyone else and if anything had a servants attitude in helping the other club memebers get their rides to the next level. But again in my personal opinion, I would like to see Scion team start to be able to take on Teams such as 16 Niss and also be able to relate to their home clubs.

I agree with you man, but unfortunately that is not going to happen. If someone puts soo much work into their car, they are going to usually feel like they deserve more.. Just hope it all works out.

i see the point wit scionpilot about keeping it different and i see how keeping it away from your home club. to make it another team that can get sponsers on there own an to take on other teams but it has some flaws that would make the guys home team kinda look at him like hes gettin more by doing this wit this team than wit his original team itself... an i think it would break up some freindships... but to my perspective making a whole new team ? would it be nation wide like some scion teams now? or would it just be in tx? i mean if it stays in tx good but to make it nationwide? would take a drastic change for others to do the same an drop the teams they are currently in to get more sponsers too?.... it would be cool to see some tricked out box's an hatchs go to nation wide events an take on other car teams not just scions but it would be to another level... but oh well who knows if this will ever come its just talk for now... an opinions.

ok i want to know this? whats wrong with having a all TC Club and be a sister club to another one.. like SW.. or scikotics... why not try that...... ive seen some pimped..out TC's just cause your a TC doesnt mean you have to join Scikotics.. be original and start your own....... club that is

by the way this is not to DISS SCIKOTICS what so ever... just helping peeps get an original idea.. Scikotics are great but would be nice to see an all TC club REP for once...... that would be sweet....

Stevonewstc is that what you are getting at if not ill shut up now.. but i think that would be pimp... all with the same ideas and enthusiasim as everyone else.. kinds like Stylewagons.. its kinda nice rolloing around with your crew and everyone noticing all the cars and not just the modded ones.. catch my drift.....

GOOD LUCK......

and if you start a all TC club i nominate TREVOR for PRES..........lol

lol i havnt seen an all tC team yet but ive noticed a few htown peeps doing that. which is good for the cars to get reconized. but i noticed u said rollin around with your crew and everyone noticing all the cars isnt that what we all do now? i mean i know i roll wit scions an we still get noticed even if im riddin on stock steelies lol... but soon enough ill be PIMPIN just watch out an wait.. cause i got a few tricks up my sleeve.....

Good luck with your ideas guys. Most of our scikotic memberw here in houston are doing a good job with their cars just about everyone has mods and we don't have a problem with the ones who don't. We don't just hang out we compete in every car show we can make. To each its own.

i hat eto sound rude but this is starting to gt way off subject...
lets jump back on it.. what im wondering is if anyone in this area dfw and surrounding area wants to start a team to just go together to shows that all. we would still compete against each other but still have that ultimate friendshiip like a club has(but not a club, a TEAM) I went to scion guys car show and saw everyone there that knew each other so i figured if i could get a crew together we would just roll together to car shows and MAYBE take home best CREW. Thats all its more likeyou and your friends going to a car show together, no matter what you are going to compete with each but everyone sees the bond rather than the wins thats what i saw at the car show(like the 3 TC) people talked about them I want to be talked about!and to answer your question pooty yes and no i would like for it to be xb xa tc but if its just tc then fine. I just want a crew so we can roll up to the car all pimped and have those new or old people say i wish i had that or i want to be apart of that. I personally dont want to be linked up with any club, just rep. the crew but i willl also supprt the club but i just need fellow scion owners to go with to shows. I think i like the idea of team fusion. If anyone is up for this just let me know, if not i guess i will continue alone thanks.

oh and you dont need to be modified just an owner

i dont think it got off topic but yea i can see where your coming from. an as far as team or crew to roll wit... i mean if u own a scion your welcome everywhere in the scion community as family... u can roll with anyone up there by the way they stand out its just unique to see so many of the same cars all together. if your lookin for a group to hang out wit an to roll with either way your going to use there name or your own. an if u do it on your own good luck with everything an find other guys/girls in your area that have the same intrests in scions . talk with the dealers around for some help an sponsership to get the word out. an hit up the local import scene because i know alot of tC's are more into the scene than the box's are.... but no matter which way u go you'll always get looked at when u hit the shows up an roll through wit everyone u come with. just be creative an come up with somthing that u never seen an u like. be different an stand out so they look at your car an say damn i wish i thought of that... thats how u get more people intrestin in u an what your all about. good luck

i hat eto sound rude but this is starting to gt way off subject...
lets jump back on it.. what im wondering is if anyone in this area dfw and surrounding area wants to start a team to just go together to shows that all. we would still compete against each other but still have that ultimate friendshiip like a club has(but not a club, a TEAM) I went to scion guys car show and saw everyone there that knew each other so i figured if i could get a crew together we would just roll together to car shows and MAYBE take home best CREW. Thats all its more likeyou and your friends going to a car show together, no matter what you are going to compete with each but everyone sees the bond rather than the wins thats what i saw at the car show(like the 3 TC) people talked about them I want to be talked about!and to answer your question pooty yes and no i would like for it to be xb xa tc but if its just tc then fine. I just want a crew so we can roll up to the car all pimped and have those new or old people say i wish i had that or i want to be apart of that. I personally dont want to be linked up with any club, just rep. the crew but i willl also supprt the club but i just need fellow scion owners to go with to shows. I think i like the idea of team fusion. If anyone is up for this just let me know, if not i guess i will continue alone thanks.

But we already do this. We roll to shows together and we generally win best crew at every show that awards it.

I'm not sure what you are saying is any different than what we already do, we just do more on top of it.

lol i think its confusing to some... lol if your going to make another team to compete with i say involve every one not just scion owners an open it up to other imports an cars....

I personally dont want to be linked up with any club, just rep. the crew but i willl also supprt the club but i just need fellow scion owners to go with to shows.
Okay, now I am a little confused. You said you wanted to join the club and do a side team for competition purposes. Now you say you don't want to be in a club,but you will also support the club. I don't see how you can do this. We (as a club) already compete for best crew and have won a few big shows. We already cruise to shows together and rep our club. I guess I don't understand fully what you want or what you are trying to achieve.

The top line was supposed to be a copy of stevos post.

i didnt say i didnt want to be part of the club it just became misleading earlier in the post about making a special show team on the side of scikotics, dont get me wrong about the club i just mainly wanted a group of fellow owners to roll with since there is none down here and again im not downing the club i just wanted a group. the thing i was sayiing about net being linked up with the club is about the car shows i just wanted to roll with the team bc i didn't know that yall did the best crew awards thats all that im saying but i guess its just a lost cause thanks for the feedback sorry if offended people see you at future shows

You didn't offend anybody that I know od. we were just trying to understand what you were getting at.

Wait until the shows start picking up, it will be fun. :D

What if you're not in scikotics?

ok well then riddle me this what the difference in a crew, a club, and a team, its all the freakin same you all have the same objective.....

and by the way, this is not really off topic we just dont understand what you are trying to do... first you wanted to start a TEAM then you wanted to be incorporated with SCIKOTICS now you want a crew with, all the models in, isnt that a club....hhhhmmm well if you will clarify yourself a little better maybe it wont look to you as off topic cause i know i dont understand what your talking bout and by the replys and you saying this is off topic then they dont understand what you are trying to do either.....

so please let us know what in the world your trying to do...... thanks

What if you're not in scikotics?

Then join. Or to be fair you can look at the stylewagons. Me and my wife looked at both and ended up with scikotics. But it's your choice.

i think he means in his area there really isnt a club of scions.... an if i was him i would look into starting a scion club around that area for scion owners to check out an get things started... u can make your own club/team or join an exisiting one an go from there... talk to the scion dealers an see if they can help u get one started. an some events started for scion owners around your town. an let us know how that goes so we can try an get up there for it... to show some support for u.

If you are going to look at joining Stylewagons I hope you have a good bit done to your xB. If you are totally stock or more you can join scikotics...

Just remember you have to be ASKED to join Stylewagons, if you arent up to it to build a car worthy enough then just join a different club... I hang out with the Stylewagons crew alot and there cars are sweet... I am not in to it for the same reason they are, but the love they show to their car shows through in the car they drive. I am sry, but if you are gonna give me crap about it then go ahead, I am just tired of seeing the Stylewagons vs. Scikotics... You wanna know the difference, and its flat out, It takes a LOT of work to get into Stylewagons, and you can see that in alot of the Scikotics, in OK, but all you need to do to be in Scikotics is drive a Scion, it doesnt matter how stock it is or how pimp it is. I am sry, but the truth is, you need standards to make it into Stylewagons...

I was thinking about starting a tC only club, but unfortunately there arent too many tCs in the area that would be up to it, and not to mention I am SURE there are not that many looking to go the same way I am. I am just not into shows to much anymore after I had a show PT cruiser.

i can see some of what your saying is true.... an yes i agree wit many things your said.... because its mainly all about SCION.. an i dont think its SCIKOTICS vs STYLEWAGONS it doesnt even apply what the guy who generally started this thread it just went from there... where all different an we come wit different things to bring to the table... stylewagons are great guys who love to build their own scion up an there a small group thats y your have to be asked to join....... scikotics is a NATION WIDE scion club just like scion evolution an scioNRG .... which gets alot of scion owners a chance to hang out togther as a whole an u just have to own a scion to get in. im pretty sure many owners want to do more than just have their ride an just leave it stock thats y one of the scikotics members where talking wit each other about havin a club for higher pimped out rides... like stylewagons for the ones who love to put more into there cars an want to show it off.... im sure many other states have small scion clubs within them an do thier own thing..

So then my question is, why not build a car and try to get into one of the smaller more "involved" clubs, then to try and make something out of something so big? People join Large clubs before they think about what it is about. Then they try and do things that the club as a whole is not looking to do, this is what breaks clubs apart.

You could also do what I do. Forget a club, just hang out with them. I know for a fact that people in scikotics hang out with people in Stylewagons, BUT there is a difference in what each club is about..

Basically what it comes down to is this. If you want a "Team or Club", because they are basically the same thing, to compete for Show trophies Other than just "The most who showed up" trophy, I would suggest starting a new club. Something more along the lines of Stylewagons, but for tCs, or for all Scions.

yeah many scion guys/girls just like to hang out which is cool. cause it gets us all a chance to chill together help out with things they need an give some advice on things u know.. some people just dont look at the BIG picture an rush right into things.. i myself am wit a small group an im lookin for ones who want to do something more to there ride.


thats y i rarely recruit as much as i should, i mean we have guys who like to come out wit us an chill which is perfectly fine. an we get them involved on the events going around town. i dont like to get big an than have the whole club have different opinions an things like that. an than split up between sides. if u think your alone in malakoff or where ever sorry if i misspelled the name. i think u should look into making your own team and get help from the dealerships an talk around to see who wants to do this. an if u just want to hang out come hang out it's not like where going to tell u bug off or anything like that. we open our arms to u an tell u to come out an hang wit us. just give it a chance. an i know u wont be alone when u hit up the shows.. but i would like to see a tC crew being made besides just square's always taking over lol...

guys, you are both missing one point. he's talking about building a "crew" (club, team..whatever) to go compete in shows against teams like emotion. the problem is that he is asking for anyone who owns a scion, whether moded or not.

the fact is, if you want to compete at that level and get the exposure he's looking for (mags, movies, uhhh's, ahhh's), you HAVE to be moded like crazy. i mean, have you seen those cars??? if not, check them out:

http://www.t-emotion.com/

no offense, but the kid is 19 and thinking of the F&F movies. best advise i can give him is work on your car first, get it to where it would be show worthy, and THEN worry about starting a "crew".

anyway, that's just my opinion.

^^^ good point.

ok so here we go again on this one he wants to build a team crew, etc.. right then why did he just type this........

stevosnewtc Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject:

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oh and you dont need to be modified just an owner



explain that...

Basically what it comes down to is this. If you want a "Team or Club", because they are basically the same thing, to compete for Show trophies Other than just "The most who showed up" trophy, I would suggest starting a new club. Something more along the lines of Stylewagons, but for tCs, or for all Scions.

That isn't the only trophy we go for, that is just our favorite. :silly:

That isn't the only trophy we go for, that is just our favorite. :silly:

True dat! And how many trophies did we take home at Exposed? Besides best club?

It seems to me like what he started this thread about is something that we are already about.

this thread is just going in circles! :| :?

stevosnewtc, i think you need to go back and rethink your idea, look at what others have done and then decide on a set of rules or whatever, a schematic of sorts. and then go look for your people.

i don't want to lock this thread but it is really just going in circles and people are repeating things and that could lead to frustration. and other stuff may come up.

my head is hurting just trying to figure it all out. :crazy:

come back here when you have made things more clearer and gotten the specifics down.
(and no im not locking it unless stevosnewtc wants me too or one of my bosses here does it.)

Stevo, a show club is harder to keep going than you imagine. The smartest thing you can do with your new TC is join Scikotics, you will have a club and enough team support thats likes to get wilder than mild. You will have more support, learn more/maybe educate some peeps on your strengths and projects. The social benefits will out weigh the winning of shows, cause there is disappointment in showing too, cause you don't always win.
As far as the SyleWagons go, we do not allow every xB in because we have certain requirement for mods and participation. Not everyone wants to spend money to show their cars, and I am talking entrance fees. One of the biggest thing that knocks a lot of people out of membership is supension modification, or they can't participate as often. It would be rare if ever that we base membership on the person though. We allow all Scion owners to attend our meetings or events and like me join Scikotics for the social aspects.

^^ what he said!

master PIMP has spoken!

P.I.M.P :bow: nuff said!!! Lupe your right this is going in circles.

Man this is making my head hurt too. Like Trevor said we all hang out together, and our clubs have different things going on. If you want to hang then come hang. If you want to start a different type club then do so. You are always welcome at get togethers we have around the metroplex. I hope we see you at shows and events. I agree this is getting confused and it would take a whole other thread to fix this. I don't think anyone is getting mad, I know I'm not. Please don't let this turn you away from the fellowship of this community club or no club.

what's going in circles?
this is going in circles
what's going in circles?
this is going in circle
what's going in circles?........:P

http://www.peakcp.com/images/circles.jpg

alright now, or i will push the button.

I don't wanna ____ anyone off but I say lock it. This isn't going to go anywhere good.

I agree, lock it.

i second that....done!
gavel down...lol

:tap:
if you leave it alone it will be fine.
don't post here anymore if your tired of it. a mod will decide if and when it needs locking. A sorry post after this isn't needed either.

Hey CB, thanks for seeing my point.. lol, I swear no one in here likes me.. hahahaha...

oh.. and just because...
hehehe, I am sorry Lupe....

Hahahhahahaha

Highlander I appreciate ya. I like people who speak the truth good or bad.

ok lupe if you wont i will.........to lock or not to lock that is the question......

ok lupe if you wont i will.........to lock or not to lock that is the question......

to lock or not to lock......

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c298/nancy_sdg/locked.gif To Lock!

see i tried to let it live. :roll:

oh no if anyone is gonna lock it its me....lol...... good job NANCY

Lockin' me out eh???


I get the last word :P N00bs....