Has anyone tried the spring 4 sale on ebay that are dirt cheap? Im looking to buy some but Im not 2 sure about these. I dont think they said a name brand but if anyone knows about them let me know.

Those are supposed to be RSR springs. I ordered a set so we will see. The guy seemed pretty freindly and answered all my questions so he might be legit.

i e-mail that guy too. he appears to be cool rsr springs thoough can't remember good or bad about these springs?

Err...I'd be careful with those...

I'd say say save the 90.00 bucks and buy the Goldlines from Bill (scionspecialist)...

There is an old saying that goes, if it is too good to be true, then it probabally is... :?

I've seen them.

They are either Arospeed, or generic Arospeed.

They will arrive in an Arospeed box, each spring wrapped in shrink plastic. The springs and box are both imprinted with the p/n "ARO-601247"

ARO-601247 is the p/n for drop springs on a Toyota Echo. I don't know if the springs are interchangeable or not.

http://www.arospeed.com

RS*R springs are the ti2000 (think they have a set for the ist in Japan). race, and down springs. They have down springs for the xA and xB..but they are like 280 bucks retail... I want a set of the ti2000s...but *shrug*

THanks for the props guys, most name brand are worth it, stay away from DropZone and any name you can't find on the internet. The DropZones are some real junk, the fit finish and ride are all subpar, I refuse to install them. The reason I mentioned them is these are the only spring I know of that you you can get for under a hundred bucks. Buyer beware. Bill Turner dba Scion Specialties

if u save a few bucks more, u can get PEACE OF MIND.
remember, springs are VERY VERY important in a car

If these are not what they say, I doubt I will put them on. Just put them back on ebay. I was considering RSR before this auction, so I bought them. I figured worst come to worst 100 bucks is not the end of the world.

I've seen them.

They are either Arospeed, or generic Arospeed.

They will arrive in an Arospeed box, each spring wrapped in shrink plastic. The springs and box are both imprinted with the p/n "ARO-601247"

ARO-601247 is the p/n for drop springs on a Toyota Echo. I don't know if the springs are interchangeable or not.

http://www.arospeed.com

Your right, this is what showed up, I called an b***hed. They said they would take them back. so beware of that auction. Havn't decided what I am going to do with them.

Arospeed Says they will work with no problems, so I may Install them. Echo people are installing Scion springs with no problems. So I may put them in and see what happens.

thats some bugged out stuff i almosat got hose too good looking out i think im going to cop the goldies

So ARE Echo springs interchangeable with Scion springs????? That part I actually do not know myself.

Curiosity got the best of me and I called the people listed in the auction (the seller) and they swore they are - but I don't know. Obviously it's in their best interest to lie to you and sell the product.

Did a cross check on eBay and the same Arospeed springs listed for an Echo specifically are like $85 or something like that.

I called arospeed they said that they are interchangeable. They also said that they would warranty them 100% used on a scion. Also said they had several employees with arospeed echo springs on there scions. The guy on ebay says he has at least 20 with these springs with no problem( but his word is worthless). On echofans.com they are buying xa and xb springs and using them, with out problems. Only thing is I bet they sit lower then 2 inch drop because of the weight difference. almost 400lbs. Arospeed also seems to have problems with them sagging after time.

Bottom line this guy is shady he will be less than truthful about the springs. To his credit he did agree to take them back, but only if I shipped them first. I just want you guys to know what they are before you order. I am going to leave negative feedback for them though. But I think I will experiment and put them on, if they are crap i'll just take them back off. Bottom line is I want the drop in a week for a show, so after that I will decide about them.


The lava in the auction is supposed to be the shop's owner's XB w/ thes springs.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2478604539&category=33586&sspagename=WDVW

I'm in Miami and I bought these springs from him he is the owner of wheel outlet. I installed them today and they look great. I am going to attach some pics. He is an honest guy.

www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4286872549

My major issue was that they said these were RS Racing Springs. Which they are not. They came in an Arospeed box & stamped w/ arospeed part numbers. If he would have said they were arospeed I wouldn't say a word. I now beleive they will fit and work just fine, but I still have an issue with they way he did business.

Your ride does looks good with them on it, those 18's? How is the ride? Stiff or softer than stock?

I don't know what happened he might of gotten mistaken or something but anyways yeah the are 18's and I just installed them today but so far the ride is great it is a little bit stiffer than stock but not much. I would say it is very much like the stock ride.

i hope i can get mine on on monday. I'll pust some before and after pics. Did you happen to measure how much the actual drop was?

you ride looks good though, nice and low.

:shock: im the guy selling the springs on ebay.
-no im not shady, i put the springs on my car when i did the 20" TIS wheels and when i got them i was told they were RS-Racing springs. they were not in a box when i got mine they were in a regular brown box, i was told they were sample springs for a scion. every set of these springs i sold never shipped from my building, they shipped from the main warehouse. only till FENDED came and picked up his springs did i find out they were in arospeed boxes when i picked them up from the distributor. once the springs settle you get about 2 inches all around the car. i had the 20's on my car and loaded up the car with as much weight as i could fit and it never rubbed.

sounds on the up and up to me.

Arospeed says they're compatible. "Llamabob" says he's the seller - and spoke up! His seller feedback rating is good (although I notice Llamabob, you do not RETURN feedback... SHAME SHAME SHAME on you, that scares a lot of people from bidding - it makes it look like you don't have good customer follw-up. From one seller to another -- leave your feedback for your buyers.)

To other Scionlife members - loking for springs - I'd say Llamabob's got a good deal going on and he can be reached for comment. A+

I agree that the parts will work, and i will keep them and put them on, for little bit. But I still think the fact that what exactly the parts were never disclosed was wrong. I just think that in the future you need to be very clear what they are. I am basically content, but I still think the auction was conducted very bad.

I agree that the parts will work, and i will keep them and put them on, for little bit. But I still think the fact that what exactly the parts were never disclosed was wrong. I just think that in the future you need to be very clear what they are. I am basically content, but I still think the auction was conducted very bad.

i agree and that will be fixed today...sorry for the confusion as i was a bit confused myself.

I installed the springs today and am very happy with the look and the ride. Even these springs seem to ride better then stock. I'll post some pics this weekend, after I charge my camera batterys.

Also If anyone else has to do theirs alone. Autozone will let you use a set of spring compressors for free. You just have to leave a $40 deposit while you have them. It made the job real easy.

Does the car end up level? Some of the pics make it look like the back end is lower then the front.

Might be interested if the car is level, but not if it's nose up. :)

Also, other then being about an inch lower, how do you think these would compair with the Tien H-Specs?

And is it a lot smoother then stock?

I am not sure about it being level. I have noticed there is a smaller gap on the rear tire then on the front. But it looks level and sometimes and looks a little lower in the front. But I haven't seen it anywhere absolutly level yet though. I'll try to go somewhere level when i take pics, so you can see it.

The ride is softer then stock. Very comfortable. But I am sure these are not performance type springs.

The rear gap should appear smaller then the front, the rear wheel well openings aren't as big (back tires don't need the extra space, they don't turn).

Easiest way is to find a fairly level parking lot and then measure the distance from the front bumper to the ground, then repeat with the back bumper.

I think I'd pull my support for "LLAMABOB" selling on eBay. Just took a look at the feedback rating page and his rate of returning. People like this should have their ability to sell on there yanked.

I notice the seller (LLAMABOB, aka Hyperformance95) has not left not so much as one single "thank you" positive feedback for a buyer - EVER. BUT, has managed to leave two negatives and a neutral. It's good to see you really appreciate your customers, my guess is you aren't looking for repeat business. Hell, I wouldn't be a 'first-pete' customer with crap like that.

As far as follow-up customer service goes, this guy's a total joke. Save your money or spend a little more with someone who runs his business likehe actually wants to keep it.

**edited** Accidently entered wrong Scionlife users name as the seller (fixed) - if I'd read more carefully I wouldn't make stupid errors.

Umm...I bought the springs, I didn't sell them. :?