CRACK in plastic around window! [Archive]

boxzila

11-04-2003, 12:21 AM

I found a crack yesterday in the plastic that meets the rear door on the passenger side! Does anyone else have a crack in their plastic?

We were at a meet on Sunday and there was another Scion xB there that had the same type of crack, only on the drivers side.

Here is are some links to pictures of the crack.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/98187974/98214517CnbvYo

11-04-2003, 12:53 AM

I was in and out of your car and Don't remember seeing any crack, I will check the link.

BlueBox

11-04-2003, 12:56 AM

do u have any pix? wat crack are u talking about?

the only problem i have with my xB is the rear hatch not shutting tight enough all the time...i have to double slam it...wassup with that?

boxzila

11-04-2003, 02:13 AM

My first post has links to the crack.

And yeah, I totally have to give the hatch a good push to shut it, but i thought that it was because the mat was shifted or something.

scionracerxb

11-04-2003, 02:39 AM

:shock:
crackCRACK whose got crack?
crack kills :wink:

mod7XB

11-04-2003, 02:42 AM

I have the same crack on the passenger side. I Think it is suppose to be there.. The crack is straight across, kinda like it joining the two pieces of plastic together. If it was a stress crack it will be rough or not perfectly straight across

boxzila

11-04-2003, 07:08 AM

Maybe you are right mod7XB, I just never noticed it until yesterday. Of course my first reaction was to freak out...now I am just wondering if all xB's have identical cracks, or if it is just some random thing.

Vicki

LVXB

11-04-2003, 10:39 PM

i cheked mine...no crack...that sounds kinda dirty huh?
sorry man

eric_m

11-04-2003, 10:44 PM

no crack here. maybe some of the models have it, and some don't. i don't know. isn't it funny that it's only on one side?

boxzila

11-04-2003, 11:53 PM

I really got close to it today...I was all in the crack ; ). Anyways, it is not a straight crack it looks like a stress fracture, and to boot there is a small crack that is starting on the drivers side.

Not stressed, i'm going to take it down to the dealer and have them look at it, who knows maybe it is from the sudden change in temp around here.

BlueBox

11-05-2003, 12:19 AM

i'm sorry guys...but wtf are u all talking about? u guys have pix cuz i want to chk mine too for cracks?

xbiyach

11-05-2003, 12:43 AM

Who's selling crack? I want some.

Cameron

11-05-2003, 12:49 AM

FYI - crack pics in the first post.
I checked mine yesterday and found....nothing. Smooth as a dolphin.

BlueBox

11-05-2003, 01:00 AM

use Krazy glue to seal the cracks...then sniff to get high...it's like killing 2 birds with one stone...u get high and get to fix the crack..haha. Maybe that's where the term "crack" derived from...lol.

gotta chk mine now for cracks...maybe ppl are slamming their doors too hard...

but seriously...i think whoever has cracks should take it into the dealers..we don't have bumper to bumper 3 years warranty for nothing.

mod7XB

11-05-2003, 02:42 AM

boxzila

11-05-2003, 02:52 AM

I should be heading down to the dealership tomorrow or the next day. I pass along any info that they give me.

As for crack...well everyone knows crack kills! :wink:

vkeks05

11-05-2003, 03:03 AM

use Krazy glue to seal the cracks...then sniff to get high...it's like killing 2 birds with one stone...u get high and get to fix the crack..haha. Maybe that's where the term "crack" derived from...lol.

This is offtopic, but the term "crack" comes from the sound it makes when you smoke crack. It CRACKS.

boxzila

11-05-2003, 03:14 AM

I don't know if we want to know where you got that tidbit of information!

ToyBox

11-05-2003, 05:57 AM

that's what warrenty's are for. :D

tbp

11-05-2003, 02:48 PM

We have two xBs at my house and one has the mysterious crack and the other one does not. For what it is worth the xB with the crack was built in June and has almost 7K mikes while the crack-free xB was built in July and has only 1K miles on it. I agree that it looks too perfect to be a break, but it is certainly curious that it is only on some cars, on one side, and the same side whenever it appears...

scionman2003

11-05-2003, 03:58 PM

Checked out mine and I do not have a crack yet. I was wondering if this might be related to lowering the car. Does anyone who has not lowered their car have the crack?

tbp

11-05-2003, 05:43 PM

Checked out mine and I do not have a crack yet. I was wondering if this might be related to lowering the car. Does anyone who has not lowered their car have the crack?

Yup!

BlueBox

11-05-2003, 06:32 PM

i just checked mine on both sides...no sign of cracks or even a fine line...smooth and hard as my ___....haha.

eric_m

11-05-2003, 07:47 PM

Checked out mine and I do not have a crack yet. I was wondering if this might be related to lowering the car. Does anyone who has not lowered their car have the crack?

i'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with lowering the car. i have put my car through the torture test and it's still crack free and running strong.

boxzila

11-05-2003, 07:59 PM

For what it is worth the xB with the crack was built in June and has almost 7K mikes while the crack-free xB was built in July and has only 1K miles on it.

Ours has almost 6000 miles on it, so maybe that has some truth to that tbp. We have a two inch drop, but I doubt very highly that has anything to do with it. I am just going to take it in and have it looked at. Bumper to Bumper baby, thank goodness for warranties.

squirrel

11-05-2003, 10:47 PM

i checked my xB and no cracks..................................yet. (knocking on wood)

yes, i'm lowered and drive it hard thru corners sometimes, well most of the time. i also have over 7,200 miles on it.

could it be caused the hard hitting bass?

squirrel

scionracerxb

11-06-2003, 12:29 AM

i thought you guys were nuts...but i went out to check mine and ....BAM....i got the crack too!...i agree that it looks kinda rough ....let us know what happens at the dealer pleeeese....i don't want CRACK.....this suks...oh BTW mine isn't lowered so thats not the reason! :cry:

scionracerxb

11-07-2003, 05:33 AM

bump :wink:

WeirdStyles_net

11-07-2003, 08:55 PM

did you know the cones heads dont HAVE cracks...

isnt that AMAZING?!?!

sorry, post whoring.. 1st offence...

yanges

11-08-2003, 07:10 PM

yanges

11-08-2003, 07:13 PM

scionaraxb

11-08-2003, 08:05 PM

Whenever someone finds out the truth about the crack let me know. my crack is straight across no rough edges. maybe they were running out of plastic and found some scraps and pieced are's together.. :lol:

yeah, the crack in the picture is awfully straight

does not seem to really be a crack :?: you would think if it was a crack, it would be uneven or something....

look closer.....it isn't straight, it has jagged edges. Definitely a crack...plus the fact that only a few people have the crack should also be a clue that it isn't normal.

boxzila

11-08-2003, 10:19 PM

yanges

11-08-2003, 11:32 PM

http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=98187974&photoID=99022057&security=WlDbuk

The debate over wether or not it is a staright crack, yikes, the link above is a better picture of it with the door open. I will let everyone know what the dealer says, I am taking it down there on Monday.

Vicki

oops :?

in the one pic i had looked at it looked different....it is a crack all right....and i checked mine and both sides are good....

boxzila

11-09-2003, 12:35 AM

I'm not mad or anything, I just wanted to make sure that everyone knew that I wasn't being neurotic. The angle of the original picture wasn't very good, and even the new pic doesn't give it full justice.

I have a feeling that it is just going to be a "well isn't that weird" thing at the dealer. I just thought that I would ask everyone because I saw a crack in another xB at one of the get-togethers I went to.

All will hopefully be resolved Monday, Vicki

WeirdStyles_net

11-09-2003, 01:38 AM

do u have any pix? wat crack are u talking about?

the only problem i have with my xB is the rear hatch not shutting tight enough all the time...i have to double slam it...wassup with that?

the xB is so airtight that the big rear hatch is harder to shut....

i leave a side door ajar and shut the hatch first.....works well for me....

Water tight like a seals crack?

Sorry, just playing around a little bit. I cant beleive that the box is that air tight, that is seriously amazing. Question, if you have the heat blasting and get it thoughly baking inside; if you turn the heat off does it cool down real quick or hold the heat for a while? I've noticed with my fiance's Rav4 that it looses its heat VERY quickly.

George

11-09-2003, 02:01 AM

http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto&albumID=98187974&photoID=99022057&security=WlDbuk

The debate over whether or not it is a straight crack, yikes, the link above is a better picture of it with the door open. I will let everyone know what the dealer says; I am taking it down there on Monday.

Vicki

From the looks of it, it is a crack caused by differential expansion of the plastic and either the glass or the body metal. On a cold night, the plastic contracts more than the glass or metal it is attached to. The long thing piece of plastic would probably crack on a plane perpendicular to the length of the part, which is exactly how the picture appears.

George

WeirdStyles_net

11-09-2003, 03:39 AM

From the looks of it, it is a crack caused by differential expansion of the plastic and either the glass or the body metal. On a cold night, the plastic contracts more than the glass or metal it is attached to. The long thing piece of plastic would probably crack on a plane perpendicular to the length of the part, which is exactly how the picture appears.

George

does anybody have a smiley or .jpg of "over my head" ?

Sorry, I think I understand the logic behind your madness, different materials contract and expand at differnt rates which will cause stress on the opposing materials...

*right*

?

boxzila

11-11-2003, 03:38 AM

I took the car into the dealership today. They took one look at it and said that it was undoubtedly a large crack in the plastic. The service writer had to order the part so it isn't fixed yet, but he said that it shouldn't take to long to get the part in. He also said that we should watch a small line that is beginning to form on the driver's side, because it may begin to crack soon. I am sure that it will all be ok though so no stress here.

It will be completely covered by the warranty is what I was told. So, if anyone out there has a crack in there plastic make sure you get it in and get it taken care of. He did say that he hasn't seen any come in with there window trim cracked yet, so maybe it was some sort of impurity in the plastic?

Well that is enough about my crack...Vicki ; )

Oh, and one final note I was way off on our mileage, after last weekends trip to the Good Guys Show there is almost 9100 miles on our xB.

BlueBox

11-11-2003, 03:42 AM

DibujoB

11-11-2003, 04:19 AM

Check this:

That black "plastic" that goes around the door frames is actually tape!!! If you peel if off (ask rick...scionstars...or Erick C) there's actually metal underneath that is colormatched to the body of the xB. It's a beeeyooootch to peel off, but if you do it's pretty cool. I bet the "mystery cracks" are just the tape getting jacked up for some of the cars.
Mine is still crack free, and I'm not brave enough to peel off the tape, although it looks pretty sweet on the cars that have done it.

George

11-11-2003, 05:59 AM

I bet the "mystery cracks" are just the tape getting jacked up for some of the cars.

No, his crack is in the vertical plastic piece immediately behind the rear door opening, at the forward edge of the rearmost side glass. It's not tape.

I did an inspection of all the cars that came to the Canyon Cruise and didn't see any similar cracks on them, so it doesn't seem to be a universal problem, at least not yet.

George

George

11-11-2003, 06:02 AM

From the looks of it, it is a crack caused by differential expansion of the plastic...

does anybody have a smiley or .jpg of "over my head" ?

C'mon, this is the 21st century, you have to speak the lingo!

Sorry, I think I understand the logic behind your madness, different materials contract and expand at differnt rates which will cause stress on the opposing materials...

*right*

?

*right*, and the weaker material in tension will always lose the fight!

George

boxzila

01-31-2004, 06:57 AM

Well I got a PM regarding the crack and I realized that I never posted the outcome of the situation. I went down to Folsom Lake Toyota and they ordered the part. It took them all day, and I mean all day to get it fixed but it was done at no charge. It did take about 2 weeks for them to get the part in though. Also, I think it took so long because I dropped the car off at 9: 30 and they kept pushing it back, the window guy called at like 3:30 (because I had called them like 5 times trying to find out why it was taking so long) and said they were just about to start it and that it would take about 30 minutes. Oh well I guess, at least it was covered under warranty.

Vicki : )