hehe i'm spying on these guys...
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_994295/tm.htm

so if they try to rev on you... you know you can smoke em...

:rofl:

This is the best post on there:
Why the **** are you guys racing 14 thousand dollar toaster shaped econoboxes anyway, nothing better to do with your gas?
I just think that most of those guys have no idea about anything about the car. They're just guessing. I would normally think a Mustang would whip my ___... then again, I don't go out on the highway looking for races. Because that's stupid.

can a tc really smoke a mustang(aka me too car)

I think a s/c tC would spank a V6 Mustang....a lot of those new ones are V6's too.
Don't think so on a V8 though.....not unless u were seriously modded.

i highly doubt it. 5spd might come close, auto no chance

dude that's awesome!! they're talking about a 500hp tC?? where, who?

even if we were only able to "keep up" with them think about it....a 4cyl keeping up with a mustang!!! LMAO

btw, i took an older (80's) camaro driving from reno to sacramento a few months back....you should've seen the dude's face....lol.

stangs suck the classics are tight but cmon highly overrated! thats funny their all starting to cry cuz their sh!t is heavy hahaha its allabout light small cars!

lol..some of those domestic guys just dont know..tc looks nuting like a toaster..they just think because its a scion its slow..i would love to meet a v6 at a light..unfortunately i only got the v8 and they spanked me lol..i kept up from a roll for about 3-4 seconds though and im auto :P. im guessing he was auto too otherwise, i think i did better then i was suppose to.

I posted up over there, was nice but made a few comments to put the fear of god into them

what did you post under?

desertheat :) 2nd page

dude, that was great...good info without letting out the goodies...lol.

dude that's awesome!! they're talking about a 500hp tC?? where, who?

even if we were only able to "keep up" with them think about it....a 4cyl keeping up with a mustang!!! LMAO

btw, i took an older (80's) camaro driving from reno to sacramento a few months back....you should've seen the dude's face....lol.

nittos scion tc has about 520 hp...... www.nittosciontc.com

dude that's awesome!! they're talking about a 500hp tC?? where, who?

even if we were only able to "keep up" with them think about it....a 4cyl keeping up with a mustang!!! LMAO

btw, i took an older (80's) camaro driving from reno to sacramento a few months back....you should've seen the dude's face....lol.

nittos scion tc has about 520 hp...... www.nittosciontc.com

that one. ok, i though the guy on the mustang forum had actually seen one in the road...lol.

awesome thread... lol... alot of scion hating though... good thing ive always hated fords

nittos scion tc has about 520 hp...... www.nittosciontc.com

533 at the wheels actually is what the nitto team told me when i talked to them.

Manual tc will own a 3.8 mustang(old body v6) at least on the highway. I came along side one a month or two ago. Had a body kit that looked like a race car and a 232 badge on back. I think actually said out load "WTF is a 232?" Next thing I know he romped on it. I downshifted and punched mine and dusted him. It was funny cause after he lost he kinda hid behind this other car.
New V6(4.0) mustangs are much faster tho: 15.3 in the quarter.
A decent driver with i/h/e manual should be about even with a new one.

yea but anyone with money can make a fast car. I mean there are a few 1000+hp rustangs, but that doesn't represent the actual car, just like the nitto car doesn't even remotely represent the capability of the tC in stock form.

^Agreed! Any trouser stain can spend $100,000 and make a car fast. Impressive is buying a car for 5K spending 10K on parts and having an 11 second car.

theres also a tc with 1400 whp but i very seriously doubt its the stock engine

I took out an auto v6 stang from school like 2-3 weeks ago, from a roll and from a dig. From a roll, i honestly didnt even think he was going, but he was. From a stop, i got him by 3-4 cars (i'm not even lying or exaggerating, i promise haha). After the race, he said, "man you smoked me, you gotta have a supercharger in there." But yeah, he said he had no traction and just spun the tires. I wanna run a manual v6 with a good driver now. And yeah, he still thinks i'm supercharged haha.

Haha THIS was the best quote because its true where I live

I've always wanted to catch a tC at a light... but most of the tC drivers in my area are little asian girls or old people. Seriously. In fact, I see more xB's and xA's that zip around traffic on the highways.

:rofl:

lol maybe if those darn eggs and boxes werent so damn fun to drive :D

theres also a tc with 1400 whp but i very seriously doubt its the stock engine

yea thats just a tC shell..its a drag car using the 2jz engine and its rwd totally not steet legal...lol...but if you go to houston-imports they bash on tCs all the time its sad.

I was racing another econobox for kicks, toying with them really when another owner saw what was going on and thought he would throw down too... it was a Volvo... it put both of us in check. Ahhaha. S60 ;) Even if it was stock it would be pretty damn quick.. but you could tell it had the boost and other things turned up closer to the 'R'.

Pretty funny to get spanked by a Volvo, but I am getting used to it. I drive these windy hills from time to time instead of the Highway into work and there is this 1980's 4door Volvo that obviously has a nice big engine with stock super quiet exhaust (car is the definition of sleeper) but it has been lowered and it owns the TC hahah.

It's fun to play even when you know it's a loss cause. Know your limits and don't drive past them and everything will be ok.

I was racing another econobox for kicks, toying with them really when another owner saw what was going on and thought he would throw down too... it was a Volvo... it put both of us in check. Ahhaha. S60 ;) Even if it was stock it would be pretty damn quick.. but you could tell it had the boost and other things turned up closer to the 'R'.

Pretty funny to get spanked by a Volvo, but I am getting used to it. I drive these windy hills from time to time instead of the Highway into work and there is this 1980's 4door Volvo that obviously has a nice big engine with stock super quiet exhaust (car is the definition of sleeper) but it has been lowered and it owns the TC hahah.

It's fun to play even when you know it's a loss cause. Know your limits and don't drive past them and everything will be ok.

the s60r is no joke! those things can from factory at 500whp and its awd! ITS INSANE!!! I cant wait for my friend to get his.

I'm pretty sure stock for stcok a 05+ manual v6 mustang can beat a manual tc and the older 99-04 would be a drivers race

I'm pretty sure stock for stcok a 05+ manual v6 mustang can beat a manual tc and the older 99-04 would be a drivers race

they both would be a drivers race. the mustang is HEAVY, so a stock m/t should be able to run with it maybe beat. but an i/h/e m/t would take it.

hahaha this post is great! Just so you know I am a tc owner. N/a tc's fully built run a best time of about a 15.2. I have not really heard of any better n.a. Most of them run 15.5-15.7's Now here is the catch. There are ALLOT of tuned tc's around. And I am not talking just header and intake type cars. Usually you will run accross built tc and it will usually look close to stock and sound mean as the devil. Be carefull thinking your going to smoke a tc like this especially in a v6 or even a gt. They might give you a heck of a suprise. They are no rocket car but many of them are in the 13's to low 14's which is pretty good for a economy based engine. Most tuned versions are laying down around 230whp-250whp. Then there are some extreme guys running 300+whp. Have fun guys! and keep it off the streets and on the track. Much better chance of you whopping a tc on video than on the street... or a tc whopping you and it being plastered all over the net hahaha


Just for the record, mine whipes the floor with a celica gts :)


:rofl: that should make em think twice of trying to race a tC...

but seriously... i agree... Stangs are HEAVY... and stock to stock will be a drivers race... what about an s/c tC vs Mustang GT? GTs are monsters! or the Cobras? or Saleens? :nails:

hahaha this post is great! Just so you know I am a tc owner. N/a tc's fully built run a best time of about a 15.2. I have not really heard of any better n.a. Most of them run 15.5-15.7's Now here is the catch. There are ALLOT of tuned tc's around. And I am not talking just header and intake type cars. Usually you will run accross built tc and it will usually look close to stock and sound mean as the devil. Be carefull thinking your going to smoke a tc like this especially in a v6 or even a gt. They might give you a heck of a suprise. They are no rocket car but many of them are in the 13's to low 14's which is pretty good for a economy based engine. Most tuned versions are laying down around 230whp-250whp. Then there are some extreme guys running 300+whp. Have fun guys! and keep it off the streets and on the track. Much better chance of you whopping a tc on video than on the street... or a tc whopping you and it being plastered all over the net hahaha


Just for the record, mine whipes the floor with a celica gts :)


:rofl: that should make em think twice of trying to race a tC...

but seriously... i agree... Stangs are HEAVY... and stock to stock will be a drivers race... what about an s/c tC vs Mustang GT? GTs are monsters! or the Cobras? or Saleens? :nails:
I ran a gt in my tubo tC untuned, running rich and back firing(lol bad move i know :( ) but i took him bay about 1/4 of car it took him by surprise!

hahaha this post is great! Just so you know I am a tc owner. N/a tc's fully built run a best time of about a 15.2. I have not really heard of any better n.a. Most of them run 15.5-15.7's Now here is the catch. There are ALLOT of tuned tc's around. And I am not talking just header and intake type cars. Usually you will run accross built tc and it will usually look close to stock and sound mean as the devil. Be carefull thinking your going to smoke a tc like this especially in a v6 or even a gt. They might give you a heck of a suprise. They are no rocket car but many of them are in the 13's to low 14's which is pretty good for a economy based engine. Most tuned versions are laying down around 230whp-250whp. Then there are some extreme guys running 300+whp. Have fun guys! and keep it off the streets and on the track. Much better chance of you whopping a tc on video than on the street... or a tc whopping you and it being plastered all over the net hahaha


Just for the record, mine whipes the floor with a celica gts :)


:rofl: that should make em think twice of trying to race a tC...

but seriously... i agree... Stangs are HEAVY... and stock to stock will be a drivers race... what about an s/c tC vs Mustang GT? GTs are monsters! or the Cobras? or Saleens? :nails:
I ran a gt in my tubo tC untuned, running rich and back firing(lol bad move i know :( ) but i took him bay about 1/4 of car it took him by surprise!

:clap: GTs are really though... especially if they are fully tuned... and it's always fun to beat one of them... gj hope nothin bad happened to your tC...

I've only truely lost one race and that was to a porsche. Really I did'nt even try. Had my ex's daughter with me and did'nt want to freak her out.

Big horsepower does'nt mean ____ on freeway-its all skill. I've trashed a vette in a four cylinder ranger before. Till he hit an opening then he was gone...

I'm pretty sure stock for stcok a 05+ manual v6 mustang can beat a manual tc and the older 99-04 would be a drivers race

they both would be a drivers race. the mustang is HEAVY, so a stock m/t should be able to run with it maybe beat. but an i/h/e m/t would take it.

How could they both be a drivers race when the 05+ v6 are completely different and even just with an auto, I've seen magazines that say it hits 0-60 in 6.9 sec, which is faster than the 99-04 manuals. So a manual 05+ V6 should most likely take out a tc stock for stock.

theres also a tc with 1400 whp but i very seriously doubt its the stock engine

yea thats just a tC shell..its a drag car using the 2jz engine and its rwd totally not steet legal...lol...but if you go to houston-imports they bash on tCs all the time its sad.

Actually, I think the 1,400 hp tC he is talking about is the one driven by Chris Rado. It uses a Toyota 3RZ-FE Tacoma engine. It is just the tC shell, but it is actually front wheel drive.

It is actually dyno-proven to only 1,200 hp. The dyno they ran it on had a 1,200 hp limit. They estimated the 1,400 hp out of what was left when the dyno shut down at 1,200. It is a pretty cool car with lots of innovative parts to make this Scion the fastest FWD car out there.

Sorry, I'll take a Stang GT over a tC anyday.

V8 + Rear drive+Live axle > *, when it comes to drag.

The V6 on the other hand, I'm not a big fan of. Don't go thinking you're hot ____ and try to take them on, since the newer v6's will actually make you earn your keep. The older V6's aren't worth much.

I've raced several different V6 mustangs.. a 96 (manual).. a 2000 (auto).. 2003 (manual), and a 2005 (manual)..

none of them were even close to me except the '05.. it put 1/2 a car length on me when I hit 4th gear.

I've even beat GT's (00-04) in 1st and 2nd gear, then in 3rd they fly by me.

Big horsepower does'nt mean poop on freeway-its all skill. I've trashed a vette in a four cylinder ranger before. Till he hit an opening then he was gone...

Good job racing on a freeway. Weaving in and out of traffic isnt skill, it's luck and balls.

Big horsepower does'nt mean poop on freeway-its all skill. I've trashed a vette in a four cylinder ranger before. Till he hit an opening then he was gone...

Good job racing on a freeway. Weaving in and out of traffic isnt skill, it's luck and balls.

NOT. Do it once and you can call it luck. Do it many times without incident or accident and its no longer luck.

There is a difference between driving by the seat of your pants and reading traffic/maintaining control= its called discipline. There have been a couple of times when "idiots" have made sudden/unsignaled lane changes in front of me and i've had to scrub 30mph right F'n now. CONTROL!

Just FYI I don't go around looking for races but if someone wants to cop an attitude, i'm more than happy to put them in their place. <=This holds true both on and off the highway.

^^I have to disagree with just about everything you just said..


Staying on topic however, I have seen the 90's/2000 model GT in action. I was not impressed either. We had 3 people in our tC. My g/f was driving, I was in the passenger seat, and my g/f brother was in the back. The GT had only just the driver. We punched it a little, and the GT didn't even walk us. He SLOWLY creeped us, but for us having 3 people in the car, it was very UNimpressive. I think we can take them with ease due to weight differences.

I want to know what salesman tried to tell the guy the tC could take the GT-S ... last I checked, most of the salesman werent really much for up-selling, just letting the car sell itself.