The tools:
1. Filter of your choice ( I got the Ultra Allergen from 3M at home depot for about $16.00 that can make 4 filters )
2. Scissors, any household scissors will do
3. A pen if necessary

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/cabin_filter_tC/1.jpg


Now the hardest part of this job was taking out the glove compartment. You first start off by taking out the two side clips like so.

My advice would be to take the left one out then to the right.

You use a mild pressure towards the center of the compartment to push the clip out
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/cabin_filter_tC/2.jpg

This shows the clip out
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/cabin_filter_tC/3.jpg


Now the right side.
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/cabin_filter_tC/4.jpg

Right side out
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/cabin_filter_tC/5.jpg


Now for the buttom hinge that has to be pulled off. ( located on the bottom right of the glove compartment )

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/cabin_filter_tC/6.jpg

Hinge off
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/cabin_filter_tC/7.jpg


Once you remove everything you will see the filter tray and and also the our cars ECU on the right hand side. Just pull off the tabs to the tray and your almost done!

http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/cabin_filter_tC/8.jpg


Take the tray out and do some cutting with your scissors. i compared the tray size and used a pen to mark how much cutting i needed to do.

Finished product
http://www.scionlife.com/tech/images/cabin_filter_tC/9.jpg


Hope this will help you guys have a dust/pollen/odor free car. :P

{Tagged as tech article - pics moved to ScionLife --Tomas}

Nice, simple, easy to follow write up.

We also have one for the xB in the FAQ/Tech section. Pretty much same process:
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20753

So I found this write up (thank you gcxandy) and decided to change the filter myself. When I opened the filter tray, lo and behold, no filter! Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't there be a filter? On my last service visit, the dealer offered to replace my filter because it's been over a year. Wow, I bet 'replacing' my filter will make a signifcant difference...

He probably replaced your air filter ... which is under the hood. That is the in-cabin filter - no Scions come with them from the factory... but the space is there on all models.

nice and easy guide =)

i need to do this soon because with all this rain it smells !

thank you

He probably replaced your air filter ... which is under the hood. That is the in-cabin filter - no Scions come with them from the factory... but the space is there on all models.

No, he was specific about the in-cabin air filter... so they don't come with the filter but the space is there? Interesting. Thanks for the reply.

^ That's strange then. I'm pretty sure my dealer doesn't even know it exists. :)

That's true. None of the SCION dealers I called had a P/N for it for the tC.
They did me a favor in the end because I got off of my lazy butt and mode some like above and it's great.
I've heard that they should be the same P/N as other SCIONs, but why?
Making them yourself is the way to go.

Scott

I just picked up one of these filters, except I bought the slightly cheaper one which still filters out pollen/smoke/etc(I also got 20x30x1, which will make 6), just not germs:) Did you pay attention to which way you put the filter in? The one I bought only has the metal mesh on one side, and with that side up the air seemed very restricted, turned around the other way it flowed like normal but was definitely fresher. So, from what I can tell from how the airflow arrow is on the filter, the air flows from the top through the bottom. Can anyone who has had one in for a while confirm which side gets dirty, or if anyone just knows for a fact which side the air flows from?:)

YES, I can confirm this... it flows from the top, down. I put the air on and held a piece of paper to make sure.

BTW, forgot to mention earlier and while we're on the subject of clean air... Before I installed the new filter in I also used a product from a German company called Klima Cleaner. It's made by 1Z (or 'einszett' in German). It cleans out the evaporator core inside the dash (that's where all the mold and bacteria are because of water condensation and dirt buildup). Anyway, with that applied and my new filter, I'm looking forward to easier breathing during allergy season. I just wish I knew about the filter a couple of weeks ago before the pollen count started to skyrocket!

Here's a pic and link to the product.

http://www.1z-usa.com/images/1z/Klimacleaner.gif

Link: http://www.1z-usa.com/AC_Cleaner.html

Descript:

Klima-Cleaner 250 ml (8,5 fl oz)

- Removes bacteria and fungi from air conditioning units and ducting.
- Reduces allergens for clean, healthy, and fresher smelling air.

Don't mask odors with fragrances -- treat them. Klima-Cleaner is an effective means for removing odors from the air conditioning unit by eliminating odor-causing bacteria, fungi and other germs. Works by effectively cleaning the evaporator -- the source of the problem. Simply insert included spray hose into the center air vents in your vehicle's interior and spray. Allow to work for 30 minutes. Creates a healthy and fresh smelling environment that lasts for months.

i was going to buy one today at toyota, but they said there is no where to put one. (obviously wrong), but there was a special note that said that the filter mod cant be done to the tc because of the cooling system, but their pc showed it working for the xb and xa, but specifically said not to do it in the tc. he gave me the card to call the master tech tomorow to find out more.

i was going to buy one today at toyota, but they said there is no where to put one. (obviously wrong), but there was a special note that said that the filter mod cant be done to the tc because of the cooling system, but their pc showed it working for the xb and xa, but specifically said not to do it in the tc. he gave me the card to call the master tech tomorow to find out more.

Yeah, that's been posted, so I'd like to know why this is and if it's true.
Please post back if you hear anything back.


Scott

Just spoke to my dealer Scion Buena Park. The parts guy was the only one who could give me some answer. When he checked his system for a part number, he got the same message about the cooling system. But he said he couldn't imagine how it could cause a problem. Which leads me to emphasize that it's important to put the filter in the correct direction so that the air flows freely.

He also mentioned that he's seen it before (he used the Toyota Highlander as an example) where one year the system had the place for the air filter but it wasn't installed and no mention of it was made to the public. The following year it was suddenly standard when all along it was there. He said that it's possibly the case with the tC as well. That if there a response to it, it will be installed in the next cycle.

I did call Scion directly but I hate to say it, they don't have a clue. They told me it was an option and I could buy the filter at the dealer. The rep also said I should call another dealer to verify the information about the 'possible issue'. I don't know, I just don't see how there could be a problem.

Anyway, if you want to get a filter from Scion, it's $25... it's the filter from the xB. Probably been mentioned before but just in case...

All I can say is that my air is way cleaner - especially driving out here in smog filled SoCal.

well i called the service department at my local dealer and the tech said if it has a tray, do it. he thinks it was more of an issue with some of the tcs not having the tray. or something. so bassically if you have the tray, do it. and it will be warrantied till 36k also. and he also said that no filter will be restrictive enough to cause problems. yay!

So you guys really notice a difference right? I will try it...does wal-mart sell those filters?

Without a doubt, yes

so i got the filter from wal mart. the wires side goes on top correct? like the picture? Just need a confirmation.

Not sure. On the filtrete filter, it had wire on both sides. Look for the arrow that's on the side of the filter before you cut it. It shows which way the air should flow.

The air flows from the top, down. \/

I made mine exactly how the picture here is like. I hope thats right. The arrow said to have the side with wires to face the fan...or whatever...

If you put it in wrong, the air flow will be limited and you'll notice. I believe someone posted that earlier in the thread. Enjoy the fresh air... you won't have to put on recirculate as much anymore!

I just replaced mine after only three months - it was totally and unbelievably dirty!
Don't wait - install one now!
BTW, I think the wire should go on the down side, but I'll have to double-check that one.
I should have taken a picture of it - next time I will...it's truly amazing how bad it looked.

Scott

This is interesting....my electronic parts catalog shows a cabin air filter case (aka tray), but no filter.
My fast moving parts book says:
"The Scion tC cannot be retrofitted with a Cabin Air Filter or Case part number due to cooling system operations."

"The Scion tC cannot be retrofitted with a Cabin Air Filter or Case part number due to cooling system operations."

Yes, and that's what we debated earlier. I spoke with the rep from my dealership and he read the same message. Basically, he didn't know what that message translated to - what exactly is it saying. And calling Scion didn't help... the rep was simply unaware of any air filter system.

The message is so vague. I don't see how a filter could disrupt and cause harm to the HVAC system - unless you installed the filter incorrectly which would put stress on the fan.

All I can say is that I'm breathing fresher air and apparently (based on the previous post), the filter is grabbing a lot of contaminants producing fresher air.

So can anyone confirm which way is the correct way the filter should face? My filter has the wires side up...I need to know so I can change it.

i've been using it with the wire side up with no problems, air flow is still the same.

YES, I can confirm this... it flows from the top, down. I put the air on and held a piece of paper to make sure.

BTW, forgot to mention earlier and while we're on the subject of clean air... Before I installed the new filter in I also used a product from a German company called Klima Cleaner. It's made by 1Z (or 'einszett' in German). It cleans out the evaporator core inside the dash (that's where all the mold and bacteria are because of water condensation and dirt buildup). Anyway, with that applied and my new filter, I'm looking forward to easier breathing during allergy season. I just wish I knew about the filter a couple of weeks ago before the pollen count started to skyrocket!

Here's a pic and link to the product.

http://www.1z-usa.com/images/1z/Klimacleaner.gif

Great DIY I'm gonna try to get this done over the weekend. By the way, what is the evaporator core and how do I get to it?

Link: http://www.1z-usa.com/sys-tmpl/plasticvinylrubbercare1/

Descript:

Klima-Cleaner 250 ml (8,5 fl oz)

- Removes bacteria and fungi from air conditioning units and ducting.
- Reduces allergens for clean, healthy, and fresher smelling air.

Don't mask odors with fragrances -- treat them. Klima-Cleaner is an effective means for removing odors from the air conditioning unit by eliminating odor-causing bacteria, fungi and other germs. Works by effectively cleaning the evaporator -- the source of the problem. Simply insert included spray hose into the center air vents in your vehicle's interior and spray. Allow to work for 30 minutes. Creates a healthy and fresh smelling environment that lasts for months.

The evaporator is located in a box within the dashboard (behind the glove box). From the box, the ventilation tubes extend out to the dashboard vents. Refrigerant flows through the evaporator which then pulls heat and moisture from the air flowing over it. The moisture collects on the tubes (like condensation on a glass of ice water) and drops to the bottom of the box. At the bottom of the box is a drain plug that's connected to an evacuation tube that extends to underneath the car around the engine area. That's why you'll see a puddle of water forming underneath a car that's been running its a/c.

The problem is that this moisture that build up in the box is a great place for mold, fungus, etc. That's why it ends up smelling the air coming out of the vents.

So this stuff works by dispensing a thick foam that goes to the evaporator and like soft scrub kills the mold and fungus that grows on the evaporator tubes and within the box.

So much valuable info, I've had more of this damp mold smell when I turn on my air in my tC more than any other new car I've been in. Usually this smell developes after a few years but I noticed it in my first summer. Gotta get this done before it gets hot around here. I love this furum!

Even toyota says it can't be done:

http://www.toyotaownersonline.com/pdf/appchart_cabinairfilters06.pdf

However, as part of my 15,000 mile service I just had a new one put in. Using the directions in this thread I opened it up to make sure they really did it. There is a new filter in there, and it looks like an original toyota part.

I have a bunch of those fiberglass spun one's lyin around, Ill grab a pair of gloves and make me one, although Ill try to double it up as the fiberglass ones arent exactly the best filters. Hopeflly should work without a hitch, Ill let ya know.

Even toyota says it can't be done:

http://www.toyotaownersonline.com/pdf/appchart_cabinairfilters06.pdf

However, as part of my 15,000 mile service I just had a new one put in. Using the directions in this thread I opened it up to make sure they really did it. There is a new filter in there, and it looks like an original toyota part.

Thanks for posting that.
I'm ____ed though because the filter does such a gret job and comes out incredibly cruddy. All my vents, etc. are so clean that I can't imagine running without one, but if it's going to cause trouble, I'm not sure I want to leave it in :flame:

Scott

Cut a fiberglass one to fit, threw it in, there was room to squeeze a second layer, but one layer seemed that it would do well enough. We shall see.

I like to put a dryer sheet on that rack in the filter box to act as a air freshener, smells like fresh laundry :silly:

Hey......not a bad idea....

But then again...when i use downy sheets the girls like to snuggle up with me....hehe I don't want them gettin the wrong idea and start snugglin up to my car.

I'll try that when it comes time to change my filter...good idea. But is it good for circulation of air?

this issue re: the tC has been discussed in several threads. this (http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=68300&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=web+absorber&&start=0) thread from last summer shows what i use. it is a filter called "web absorber" (home depot) and uses a fiberglass filter element and a charcoal sheet with a plastic cover that when cut to fit, fits neatly under the tabs of the filter housing (this part i use over and over).

as told to me last year, toyota's issue with the tC utilizing a filter was the poor ac performance that caused the tsb; they didn't want to impede air flow to exacerbate the problem. since the ac fix there apparenly is no issue. "web absorber" has minimal air flow obstruction.
photos:
http://img106.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img106&image=filter28do.jpg

http://img143.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img143&image=filter15kx.jpg

Alright, so I just did the install and I noticed that either way I put the filter it restricts the air flow just a bit. Anyone know if that's normal?

Alright, so I just did the install and I noticed that either way I put the filter it restricts the air flow just a bit. Anyone know if that's normal?
toyota says don't use a filter in the tC. there are filters less restrictive than others. i've used a filter since i bought my car and change it every three months. decide for yourself...some filters probably shouldn't be in the tC.

Alright, thanks for the quick reply.

Just made one for myself. I got pretty much the same filter as gcxandy's. Gonna have to wait til after work to test it out. Gotta find me a big nasty truck to drive behind...

ok, so after reading all of this i have two questions lol should i put a filter in there or not? and if so which one?

I have been using a filter since I first saw this post back in the spring and I couldn't be more pleased. I've changed it every three months - you can not believe how dirty that thing gets - the filter turns black. I also use it in conjunction with the 1z einszett Klima Cleaner which cleans the evaporator core of mildew, etc.

Those two combined and I get clean fresh air... on SoCal highways :)

ok cool but i dont use my ac that much but sometime with the windows up and the ac off it smells weird so thats y im wanting to do this. dose it matter what type of filter i get?

I used the 3M Filtrete because it's one of the better ones. I got 4 filters out of one sheet... sorry, I don't know the size of the filter I got off hand. Even the most expensive filter is a fraction of the price of the filter you can buy from the dealership so don't skimp.

The most important thing you have to remember is to make sure you install the filter in the correct position based on the air flow. Otherwise you will restrict the flow of air and put stress on the system. This is mentioned in prior posts but I thought I'd point it out again.

It only takes a few uses of the a/c for condensation to build on the evaporator core and in turn create an atmosphere for mold and mildew to grow therefore creating that odor. I like the Klima Cleaner because it cleans the surface, kills the mildew/moldew, bacteria and then prevents in from coming back in the near term. The einszett site has some labratory docs to confirm its effectiveness.
Link:
http://www.1z-usa.com/sys-tmpl/plasticvinylrubbercare1/

ok cool can u get that stuff at like auto zone or somthing?

No. They have a few retailers across the country but I could only find it at the einszett website's online shop at 1z-usa.com (http://www.1z-usa.com). It's a more specialized product coming from Germany.

I did find a few other a/c cleaners out there but they were all the type where you spray the product into the return section of the system. It was no different than spraying Lysol into the return. On the other hand, when you apply Klima Cleaner, it dispenses a foam that goes through the vents and on to the evaporator core. Then you can see the used product dripping out from underneath the car from what they call the evacuation tube. This is where excess moisture from the evaporator core leaves. Technical stuff but I know the product is getting where I want it to go.

Tip: The can directions suggests to dispense the full can but you can get two applications out of it. I also dispensed it in the right passenger vent vs. the center vent as suggested in the directions.

I’ve been using the XBs replacement filter for as long as I had my tc. It fits in perfectly in the tc’s tray.

just one quick question. Do i spray this in the middle vent? all the vents? when its on whens its off? do i let it sit for a half hour while its on/off? while the car is driving while its off? (cuz some air flows thru even when you have the ac off)

First, do not apply when driving :)

The product comes with a tube that's maybe just over a foot long. You see, all the vents lead to a box that holds the evaporator core. This box is usually located in the area under the dash, behind the glove box. So the idea is to access the vent that has the shortest route to the box with the evaporator core. I found on the TC that it's the passenger side vent. I have a bmw and it's the center vent. Every car is different.

According to the direx on the label, make sure the vents are on the 'fresh' air setting. With the car off, the fan on off, insert the tube through the vent all the way and hold the trigger on the can down. This will dispense the foam through the system (you will hear it). Continue to spray until about half the can is dispensed.

Next step, wait for 30 minutes to let the product do its thing.

After 30 minutes, open all the windows, turn the fan on (don't have to have a/c on just the fan) all the way to the highest setting. This will blow out any remaining product from the system. Do this for maybe 10 seconds and then you're done.

You'll get a citrus scent from the product initially but it lasts no more than a day. After that, the 'smell' should be neutral. Odor gone. I do this about twice a year or when I change the filter.

Doing the filter and Klima Cleaner really help with my allergies and no one complains that it smells like cat ____ when I turn the air on :nails:

Actually the A/C radiator is almost directly under the big center defrost vent... The heater and A/C radiators are both above the transmission hump, to the left of the blower assembly.

See:
http://tijil.org/tC_heat_AC_55-5.gif
and
http://tijil.org/tC_heat_AC_55-31.gif

Whatever vents you stick this stuff in, at least make sure that particular vent is open. :P

Another thing to do, to kill things most throughly from both ends is to remove the filter, put the empty filter drawer back in, turn on the blower and put in an alcohol/water mix from the OUTSIDE vent.

See:
http://toyota.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/toyota.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=4243

Best to have the windows open while doing this stuff - fumes can get pretty nasty inside if you don't. :shock:

Oh, the exact same comments apply to the xA and xB, too. :D

Tomas

Great info, thank you!

I've been using my home-made filters for the tC since this spring.
They get amazingly dirty - about 10x dirtier than the engine air filter!

Once you start using them, you'll never not use them again.

They get amazingly dirty - about 10x dirtier than the engine air filter!

Funny, I was just thinking the same thing today. I know this is especially true out here in SoCal where the smog, pollution, brake dust and soot is much higher than other places in the country. Do the filter... your lungs will thank you.

They get amazingly dirty - about 10x dirtier than the engine air filter!

Funny, I was just thinking the same thing today. I know this is especially true out here in SoCal where the smog, pollution, brake dust and soot is much higher than other places in the country. Do the filter... your lungs will thank you.

My allergies have been MUCH better too.

i need to try this!

I'm on my third filter...previous 2 got very dirty....i can't believe that if I didn't have the filter all that would've flown into my car...scary indeed!

i need to do this cause man i get alot of dust! I might have to throw in a nice scent on the filter :)

Just Do It!

thanks! its just what i needed!

watching....for later....

GREAT STUFF!!!

might give it a go sometime :D

just did this last night. install was a breeze and i'm very pleased. thanks for the DIY!

mines blowing clean air now...

This seems like a cheap and very useful mod for us city folks. I'm gonna head out and buy a filter this weekend!

I don't hardly notice a difference at all with it. I've never taken apart anything in a car, and the DIY guide made it very easy to do.

I was amazed that the TC didn't have a filter in already, so I bookmarked this post long before I got mine. I installed in the second day I had the car.

I can't wait to check up on how dirty it is when I go to change the filter in a couple months.

Well, I do have to say its been almost five months and I was pretty disappointed with the mod, probably because my expectations were too high.

Now, don't get me wrong, I love it, and would never remove it (I've already seen enough dirt and even some bugs in there), and know I'm breathing cleaner air.

The only thing is, the carbon layer on the filter doesn't seem to work all that well. I'm sure its filtering out a large portion of external odors, but if I get stuck behind an old bus or truck, or run by a sewage treatment place, or someone cutting their grass (although that one isn't that unpleasant), I can still smell it inside the car.

I bought a filter that someone else bought... it was carbon based, and they wrote a tutorial as well. I also remember it being close to $10, so I don't think I bought a crappy filter either!

Um, it's there to filter particulate, not microscopic odors.
Your expectations are WAY out of wack.
You'd have to spend a fortune for a system to filter out smells as you mentioned.

I believe earlier on in this thread it was stated that a filter with carbon should not be used because it's more restrictive for air flow and could put stres on the HVAC system.

As far as the carbon, I'm not an expert in it but I don't believe it will take away the odor completely especially heavy diesel soot.

The good news is that new diesel fuel that is much lower in sulfate is coming out in 2007!

Um, it's there to filter particulate, not microscopic odors.
Your expectations are WAY out of wack.
You'd have to spend a fortune for a system to filter out smells as you mentioned.

But the point of the carbon layer was... ?

It should at least reduce them significantly. Don't get me wrong, there is a reduction, just not as much as I hoped for.

"Activated charcoal" particles bind with all sorts of 'organic odors' and essentially 'trap' them with 'carbon bonds.'

This of course is never 100%, and only affects those molecules susceptible to being locked up with a carbon bond. Also, of course, this only affects molecules that physically come in contact with carbon that has not yet 'bonded' with something else. This means "carbon filters" aren't 100% when brand new, and progressively get less and less effective, and slower to 'grab' odors. Eventually they just stop.

When following a diesel or passing a pile of manure it is best to flip the control to 'recirculate' instead of sucking in the bad air, then open it back up when it is "OK."

Tomas

Exactly.
The recirc button is your best friend in the city...

this diy should be in the tech section. nice writeup

I forgot about mine and just took it out after 5 months. It is soooo dark and dirty, unbelievable....Thank God for this thread.

I just took my xB in for the second oil change and mentioned that I found that the in cabin air filter was never installed. They stuck one in for free. That's the first and only thing I've gotten from them for free and I'm sure it'll be the last.

I forgot about mine and just took it out after 5 months. It is soooo dark and dirty, unbelievable....Thank God for this thread.

Amen brother! If my lungs could talk, that's what they would say. :pray:

just did this about 10 mins ago and only took me less than 5 mins to do it. I wont know the difference once i use my a/c but the install was cake. I used the 3M Filtrete 20x25 i believe for only $9 at walmart so i can probally make 5-6 filters. I also bought a couple of tree air freshener and threw one on top of the filter when i put it back in. turned on the a/c just to check it smells ok and it smells good! thanks for this DIY!

YES, I can confirm this... it flows from the top, down. I put the air on and held a piece of paper to make sure.



Here's a pic and link to the product.

http://www.1z-usa.com/images/1z/Klimacleaner.gif

Link: http://www.1z-usa.com/AC_Cleaner.html

Descript:

Klima-Cleaner 250 ml (8,5 fl oz)

- Removes bacteria and fungi from air conditioning units and ducting.
- Reduces allergens for clean, healthy, and fresher smelling air.

Don't mask odors with fragrances -- treat them. Klima-Cleaner is an effective means for removing odors from the air conditioning unit by eliminating odor-causing bacteria, fungi and other germs. Works by effectively cleaning the evaporator -- the source of the problem. Simply insert included spray hose into the center air vents in your vehicle's interior and spray. Allow to work for 30 minutes. Creates a healthy and fresh smelling environment that lasts for months.








i went to the website to order the product and it says it cant find the a/c cleaner, has anyone else experienced this problem? :tap:

Ya, get it elsewhere. For example:
http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/shopcart/CARE/POR_CARE_einszt_pg19.htm

Thats just a quick google, first thing that came up

Also check out Parts4vws.com: http://www.parts4vws.com/catalog/product_detail.asp?PartNumber=EZ961105

glad to see my DIY is helping out the scion community!

hope everyone is enjoying the cleaner air because of this

looks like the pictures don't work, i'll get on fixing that right now

glad to see my DIY is helping out the scion community!

hope everyone is enjoying the cleaner air because of this

Yep - sure am! :)

thanx :)

Just thought I'd add on a bit to this DIY. I have one of those squash scented air fresheners from Japan and I REALLY like the way it smells, but it never seemed to be quite enough scent. So, what I did was take the scented part of the air freshener out and cut an opening in the self-made air filter and put the air freshener in there. Now whenever I have the vent open for outside air, I get a nice squash scent blowing through my vents and/or defroster!

This is one of the recommended mods for our cars.

This stuff is good to know..Good d/i/y'er..

just did mine. i got the exact same brand of filter as OP but since all sizes were the same price of $16, i opted for the 20"x25" to make 6 filters.

i thought it would be very easy to cut it up but actually took me awhile. they use some very good adhesive for the filters so it was tough to rip off the cardboard borders. cutting the metal mesh with a pair of household shears was difficult so i used a wire cutter instead.

originally i thought i would be done in 20 minutes but it took me twice that time to finally do 3 pieces. i guess i was trying to find an efficient way to do it. at least now with experience, i think i can do the other 3 pieces in 20 minutes.

i've already placed the filter back into my scion and i'll report back on how the airflow and odor later.

overall, i think it will be well worth the time and money spent considering that the dealership charges about $60-80 to replace the filter and i've seen filters on autoparts stores going for about $20-25.

Just replaced my quarterly filter.
MAN - those things get ugly.
I'm so glad I do this - the junk it catches is amazing.

If the cars have the tray but no filter take it out and give it to the parts guy at your local dealer and have them get you a genuine one that fits. Takes the guess work out of it. :)

The dealers do have the genuine ones, but their prices are all way too high ($20-$50!). They are available aftermarket at better prices, on the average $12-$20. However, Maria (06B0X (http://www.scionlife.com/profile/06B0X)) down in Orlando found an excellent source of Denso filters for just $6.95 each. I bought a bunch for my two Scions. http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2233992#2233992

If course making up your own is still less expensive, and also means one can use all sorts of custom filter materials.

Tom

wow... they told me that they would replce mine for 79.99... lame

ill have to do this myself

The dealers do have the genuine ones, but their prices are all way too high ($20-$50!). They are available aftermarket at better prices, on the average $12-$20. However, Maria (06B0X (http://www.scionlife.com/profile/06B0X)) down in Orlando found an excellent source of Denso filters for just $6.95 each. I bought a bunch for my two Scions. http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2233992#2233992

If course making up your own is still less expensive, and also means one can use all sorts of custom filter materials.

Tom

That's a good link, but I still don't get why Scion and parts dealers refuse to acknowledge the fact that the tC can handle a filter?
Nobody - including the link above - shows filters for the tC.

I'm happy with the ones I make, but I do like the NPN filters - they're like the OEM filter in the air intake.
Just not sure if there's an issue putting one in?

Scott

The xA, xB, and tC all use the very same blower assembly with identical filter drawers.

As to why Scion doesn't list a filter part number for the tC, you will have to get that answer from Scion.

We do know that the xA, xB, RAV4, etc. filter fits perfectly, but only Scion Corporate knows why they don't list it for the tC.

Tom

Tomas: I TRIED to get the answer from Scion/Toyota but nothing but form letters.
None of the dealers could tell me.

I've been using one since I found the original DIY right after buying my tC, so I'm assuming that it's not hurt anything (yet)
Just seems odd, but I will continue until someone shows me that it does something(s) bad.
Again, thanks for that link - I may try the NPN this time.

BTW, doesn't this statement on their site bother you?
For this application the AC cabin filter is a DEALER OPTION ONLY. This does NOT come as stock equipment. It is your choice whether you want to "add" one or not.

No, that statement, to my mind, is only a notice that the filter is not necessary, and should not be considered a required maintenance item. There are very few items like that - even the windshield washer fluid isn't considered an option. :)

I believe it is just their way of saying your car may or may not have one, that it is only a 'replacement' part if you had it optionally installed - it didn't come with one.

(The filter IS shown in the vehicle parts breakdown, but is one of the very few items shown as "optional.")

Tom

even the windshield washer fluid isn't considered an option. :)
Tom

:doh: Yeap. Every new car I inspect at work (Toyota) I have to add about 1/2 gal. of washer fluid. I think they make up for it w/tire pressure (~45/50 psi!!).

even the windshield washer fluid isn't considered an option. :)
Tom

:doh: Yeap. Every new car I inspect at work (Toyota) I have to add about 1/2 gal. of washer fluid. I think they make up for it w/tire pressure (~45/50 psi!!).

:rofl:

I did this mod about 2.5-3 months ago and now ready to change the filter. Im very impressed on how much this thing picked up and what it picked up.

Saw about 10 of these guys!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Yanki01/Aftershoxfilter013.jpg
BIG difference!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Yanki01/Aftershoxfilter012.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/Yanki01/Aftershoxfilter011.jpg

This is a MUST HAVE mod that we need!

Wow. Thanks for letting us know! Thats pretty drastic. What kind of mileage is on the filter and what is the air quality like near you?

mileage was almost exactly 1k cause i got my oil changed the day i started the filter. The air is pretty moderate here, but im always in traffic.

WOW, that is 1K worth of milage?! :shock:

I've had mine on for about 7-8K and was gonna change it at the next oil change. I should probably move that up!

damn, i wonder what yours looks like. I dont drive much. I have an 05 and bought it back in June 05 with only 15k miles on her right now.

I smoke cigarettes and drive many miles daily. I thought about doing this, but felt I should just LET IT FLOW since it's not too fresh in my Marlboro Mobile anyway. Would it still be beneficial ya think?

Yea, it would definitely be beneficial for everyone, especially considering the cost.

I'll post up a picture when it remove mine. It'll have like 12K on it lol. I have an '06 with 30K. You really don't drive much at all! wow

Wow. Thanks for letting us know! Thats pretty drastic. What kind of mileage is on the filter and what is the air quality like near you?

That's nothing - next time I change mine, I'll post pix.
10x worse than than - non-smoker, but LA air.

Scott

Thanks for the bump! I almost forgot to change mine and it's been 3 months since I did this mod. I wonder what my filter caught in that period. :ponder:

christ I missed you guys.

my filter tends to capture small insects (like on Yanki's pic) and also small bits of leaves (even though I never park under trees... its a mystery) :D

christ I missed you guys.

Dude!

Believe it or not, I was thinking about you this morning because I saw a car with two bad door dings - reminded me of the PDR threads we had going!

Where've you been?

Scott

had mine changed this afternoon, not really that dirty but i got a road trip coming this weekend so i figured i'd get some clean air on the 1000 mile round trip drive :silly:

http://x8e.xanga.com/781d723211332113989314/w81448846.jpg
http://x2d.xanga.com/f45d453211332113989304/w81448836.jpg

im gonna watch this for my future mod...

Your filters aren't even dirty yet!
Seriously, that's good for a lot longer.
I will posts mine after three months - you'll die.

okay...i'm gonna do this because living out here in the desert, it gets crazy dusty and i'd prefer not to be breathing it in as much.

so i go and pull out the tray for the filter....and to my surprise, there wasn't one in there to begin with!!! so my question is this: isn't there supposed to be a filter in there from the factory? i would think so....it's not a big deal. just thought it was weird, that's all. TIA.

no, it doesnt have to come with one.

no, it doesnt have to come with one.

okay. not a big deal. i'm already done putting the new one in anyway. thanks for the quick response.

no problem.

this is really sweet, I was not aware we even had a cabin filter on a TC. I will check it after work. Nice!

i change the filter today, it caught alot dirt and trash.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/filter.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/filter2.jpg

and i realized i install the filter upside down.




This is the new piece i putted in. Fuzzy side UP!
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/filternew.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/gammatnt/car%20stuff2/filternew2.jpg

gezus! You caught alot of sh*t!

hey guys i did mine about a week ago i dont really feel or smell a difference but hey i know it there so its all good plus when ill know it worked when i change it lol

what does this exaclty doo???

filters the air comming from the vents. Their's no filter in the tray so we do this "mod" and add one to get some "cleaner" air flowing through instead of all that junk that you've seen in our ugly filters.

what does this exaclty doo???

Have you seen the pics of the really dirty filters in this thread? Without the cabin air filter in place, all of that would be spread out in the interior of the car.

I'd personally rather have a filter catch all that stuff than have it in the carpet, on the upholstery, dash, windows, headliner, etc., and I'd much rather the filter caught it than me breath it...

The filter is optional, just like floor mats, fog lights or seatcovers: The car doesn't come with one installed. If you want one you need to put one in.

The ones from the dealer are expensive. Some auto parts stores have 'em for much less. You can make your own for next to nothing.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2445786#2445786

Tom

The place I notice the lack of dust most is in the vents.
Worth every penny and effort to put it in.

ohh thanks.. i saw all the junk, but i was like where its coming from.. its been a slow day for me..lol

gotta try this tomorrow

I was browsing and found that Wix make a cabin air filter now
http://www.oreillyauto.com/EW3/gpi?id=829828632

Wix part number 24900

Yes, WIX was one of the first aftermarket filter makers to make one... :D

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=721933#721933

And at those prices, forget it.
Make your own for about $4 a piece.

Heheheheheh... My closest Scion/Toyota dealer has 'em on sale right now!

http://tijil.org/cabin_filter_sale.jpg

However, I get mine here:

http://tijil.org/Denso_cabin_filter.jpg

for a little bit less... :)

Tom

Wow - I guess so!
Do you like the Denso?
Does that number also work in the tC?

They are the exacty same as the OEM filters except for color. They are very good filters. (Much of what the factory puts in our cars is actually FROM Denso.)

Tom

I just noticed your (is it yours?) Land Cruiser - that is HOT!
I will someday have one too - just waiting for the right time.
I grew up on those in Montana - we had a bunch at the camp in Red Lodge...awesome.

Currently doing this install right now as I type this, but I didn't read the whole thread, but just my .02 on the issue as to why they (Scion) did not do this to begin with and the reason why they say don't is b/c a majority of the owners would not replace the filters. When I just took out my glove box and removed the tray I felt the inside of the fan housing, and its one of those types that uses centripicle force or w/e you want to call it, it does not use a prop like system. So with my understanding, if they don't clean it, the filter will get so clogged that this type of system would have a very hard time to operate and thus shorten its life. Like I said just my .02 and I could be totally wrong.

(That Land Crusher was my first boxy vehicle, back in '72. Built like a bridge girder, reliable as an anvil. Sadly I don't have it any more, but with luck it is still out there somewhere.)

Currently doing this install right now as I type this, but I didn't read the whole thread, but just my .02 on the issue as to why they (Scion) did not do this to begin with and the reason why they say don't is b/c a majority of the owners would not replace the filters. When I just took out my glove box and removed the tray I felt the inside of the fan housing, and its one of those types that uses centripicle force or w/e you want to call it, it does not use a prop like system. So with my understanding, if they don't clean it, the filter will get so clogged that this type of system would have a very hard time to operate and thus shorten its life. Like I said just my .02 and I could be totally wrong.

With that reasoning they'd not put in an oil filter either... :P

With that reasoning they'd not put in an oil filter either... :P

Lol, smart@$$ :P

:rofl:
Sorry, it just made me laugh.
But let me tell you, I've been on my daughter's case for three months to get her oil changed in her new Altima - she didn't do it and came over last night and said "my car smells like smoke"
I was so pi**ed, and I knew she hadn't done it.

So, never underestimate the lack of owner's attention...

No, it's more like their not automatically including (and charging for) floor mats or the upgrade head unit, or fog lights: Those items are optional extras that an owner may want to add, but they are not necessary to the proper operation of the vehicle. Same for the cabin air filter.

Manufacturers consider oil filters a necessity. :D

Tom

Tom,

Where is the place above you buy the filters from?
I can only find sites with the prices $12 and up.

SB

Just a sec - I posted it in another thread and need to find it. :)

BRB

Tom

TY!

Here's the original thread:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2194085#2194085

I haven't checked the price since I ordered mine, and they seem to have changed supplier and price - about double. :(

Glad I have my stack of eight filters...

http://tijil.org/cabin_filters01.jpg

Tom

You can find something simialr at wal-mart or your local grocery store. I got a home air filter,cut it up and took the carboard off. Looks and fits great

You can find something simialr at wal-mart or your local grocery store. I got a home air filter,cut it up and took the carboard off. Looks and fits great
i think thats what everyone else used?

Two different discussions going on here at the same time: Custom cut your own cabin air filters from whatever filter material you want, and find commercially made filters ready-made to fit at a decent price.

I've done both, and actually prefer the commercial filters, but only if they are priced decently.

Tom

You can find something simialr at wal-mart or your local grocery store. I got a home air filter,cut it up and took the carboard off. Looks and fits great
i think thats what everyone else used?

It's called "I only read the last page of the entire thread" posting. :)

You can find something simialr at wal-mart or your local grocery store. I got a home air filter,cut it up and took the carboard off. Looks and fits great
i think thats what everyone else used?

It's called "I only read the last page of the entire thread" posting. :)
ha ha, it was on the tip of my tounge!

man i got people ripping on me in 2 different posts =)

man i got people ripping on me in 2 different posts =)

At least you're consistent! :rofl:

It helps to read the thread before posting, just some helpful love coming your way...

Hum, I do think there is a point where the thread gets too long for someone to read just for the sake of a cabin filter mod :P

I've been here sorta from when it was only a couple of pages so I have no problems... new members probably not. Maybe we should consolidate the info present thus far into a new thread or something? I would hate to lose this thread though.

Maybe people shouldn't reply if they haven't read it?
I'm cool with people not reading 9 pages on a cabin filter - read what you want - but don't comment blindly if you're too lazy to read it! :)

i just saw this mod this morning, i went to walmart and picked up some filter, and i did this in 5 minutes! it was soooo easy, no more dusty vents yay! :D

'Bout time, redneck!

Maybe people shouldn't reply if they haven't read it?
I'm cool with people not reading 9 pages on a cabin filter - read what you want - but don't comment blindly if you're too lazy to read it! :)

Indeed, and there is something strange about this thread that makes one want to read nearly nine pages about an air filter :P

i just saw this mod this morning, i went to walmart and picked up some filter, and i did this in 5 minutes! it was soooo easy, no more dusty vents yay! :D

Hey man this doesn't clean your already dusty vents :silly:


My filter is still holding up well, but I think I replaced about 2500 miles ago, and I don't do a lot of highway driving. In fact, most of the time I usually keep the vent open, but don't run the fan or AC, so go figure about the filter not being too clogged up. Just checked it a few days ago, and other than some insects ( :nope: ) that I just vacuumed out, its still lookin good so I didn't do anything further :D

'Bout time, redneck!

good burn gramps! :lol: :D


the only problem i had was the little arm that controls the glove box from slamming down popped off and i had no idea what it was for at first! i was like wtf! then i but the box back on and was playing with it a bit when i was like OH SNAP that why the glovebox was acting weird!
:loser:

Just did this DIY today and the hardest part was cutting the big air filters and I got few cuts on my finger from those wires on the filter. let's see how it will turn out after 3 months.

it holds good, mines been in for a year. Time to cut a new piece and pop it in I think...

Just did this DIY today and the hardest part was cutting the big air filters and I got few cuts on my finger from those wires on the filter. let's see how it will turn out after 3 months.

For me, the hardest part is always popping the glovebox top off. I mean, you manage to pop one side out, then the other side pops back in. It's annoying... plus once you manage to get one side out, which is easy enough, the other side just doesn't want to come off! Feels like I'm about to break something, well it almost does before everything suddenly pops out as if nothing was ever wrong :relief: :tap:

Just did this DIY today and the hardest part was cutting the big air filters and I got few cuts on my finger from those wires on the filter. let's see how it will turn out after 3 months.

For me, the hardest part is always popping the glovebox top off. I mean, you manage to pop one side out, then the other side pops back in. It's annoying... plus once you manage to get one side out, which is easy enough, the other side just doesn't want to come off! Feels like I'm about to break something, well it almost does before everything suddenly pops out as if nothing was ever wrong :relief: :tap:

Yeah this was my first time to pop the glovebox off and I had same problem like you. I didn't wanna break anything and I figured out that I can just pop both sides at the same time with two hands and that made me easy to pop them off.

OK

so what exactly is this filter for?

to filter the outside air coming in the cabin when the A/C recirculation is in OFF?

because if thats what it is I might never need this filter.. i have my A/C recirculating inside 99.9% of the time.

I dont know if its the miami whether but its hot azz f**k down here and the A/C pumps 3x as cold when its recirculating.

It filters all outside air coming into the heater/defroster. It does not filter recirculated air at all. If you only run recirc, you would get no advantage from this filter. If you ever let the system suck in outside air, heating/cooling/neutral, this is the only way to keep the lumps out.

Tom

Yea i guess i'll just go to home depot and buy a small filter... maybe $5-10.

I'll probaly never have to replace it.. as i believe the only time i let air in is in defrost mode.. but its only for a few minutes

I'll probaly never have to replace it.. as i believe the only time i let air in is in defrost mode.. but its only for a few minutes

Take a look at page 6. The filter get dirty after a year of use.
I will replace it twice a year.

I'll probaly never have to replace it.. as i believe the only time i let air in is in defrost mode.. but its only for a few minutes

Take a look at page 6. The filter get dirty after a year of use.
I will replace it twice a year.

yea but he obviously lets air into the cabin.. i dont.. only time i do is in defrost mode and thats for just 5min tops.. it will take me a really longgg time before mines gets that dirty.

I took a glance at mine and it ain't that dirty at all. I just dust away particles caught by the filter and put in back in. I use outside air 95% of the time. And when I turn my A/C off, there is still a cool breeze coming from outside.

can someone give me a link of a good filter to put in the tc?

can someone give me a link of a good filter to put in the tc?

Please read the thread! :pray:

Just went down to Lowe's and bought myself an air filter, got 3 20"x30"x1" sheets of filter for only 8 bucks, don't recall the name of it, but it seemed like decent stuff (especially since it's only .13 cent a filter). Cut out a chunk and put it in and didn't notice much difference in air flow thru the vents.

i read the thread...i just didnt know which one was the best one

i read the thread...i just didnt know which one was the best one

IMO, I think all the filters will do something, just that the better quality ones will flow more air AND filter more out at the same time. Living in the gigantic dust blow that AZ is...I decided to buy cheap stuff, but be able to make 18 filters. I'm gonna check after 1,000 miles and see how the first one did and take it from there.

I finally did mine today, $16.00 for the filter at Home Depot and i made 4 filters out of it :P not bad, Plus i put a dryer sheet in there too, my girl loves it..

a dryer sheet is an awesome idea. that would help hide the cigarette smoke coming from my car :)

Do it , it works great!

Keep in mind that dryer sheets contain 'stuff' meant to coat the clothing in the dryer. That same 'stuff' will just as happily coat the inside of your windows, etc. I suspect it would be difficult to get off. :(

(That's why I'm always reluctant to use deodorants or 'smell good stuff' in a car: Most of 'em leave a tenacious film on everything inside, dash, upholstry, windows. Remember there is 'stuff' evaporating from those sheets and deodorizers, and it has to go somewhere...)

http://tijil.org/tom_icon.gif

Um for those that just use the recirculate button like 100% of the time. The filter DOES work wonders. I just put mine in about 2 months ago, only use recir. but I put my windows down sometimes for the cool mix of cool air with scorch of LV heat, I'm weird I know :P My filter is already gray and dirty. If anyone wants to take a min or two, all you have do is pull out the tray that the filter goes in and look through that opening at the top. Turn your car on, set the fan to just one bar, dont stick your hand in the opening just use your eyes 0.0 and now press the recir. button, you will see this lid thingy at the top inside move. With it open it in one position it only pulls air from outside and directs it down onto the filter, press it again and it moves to block the outside port and suck the cabin air in and direct it down onto the filter. So yes, even if you do use recir all the time this is still a good investment. Plus I just bought a small bag of vanilla scented bead thingys that your suppose to put under you car seat. Well its sitting under my filter now and my car smells awesome! I'll post pics if need be.

interesting.

Yup, its interesting. Since I was bored I decided to do the hard work for everyone :D Here is the link on youtube for it. http://youtube.com/watch?v=K4cECEGsGZU It might take a few mins to become available though.
Here is my airfreshner mod though :P

Top view of filter:
http://img104.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2007/05/20/hpim0646-46jgvjmyz.jpg

Bottom view of filter:
http://img104.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2007/05/20/hpim0647-46jgvt8zt.jpg

Yup, its interesting. Since I was bored I decided to do the hard work for everyone :D Here is the link on youtube for it. http://youtube.com/watch?v=K4cECEGsGZU It might take a few mins to become available though.
Here is my airfreshner mod though :P

Top view of filter:
http://img104.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2007/05/20/hpim0646-46jgvjmyz.jpg

Bottom view of filter:
http://img104.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2007/05/20/hpim0647-46jgvt8zt.jpg

Wow, that's actually a really good idea, I think I'm going to have to try this out when I change my air filter.

yup I like it, smells great :) Wish they had something other than vanilla but when it's time to replace it I'll find something better lol It's hilarious when you have people get in your car, some that have never been in a Scion yet alone a tC and wonder why it smells so good without any airfreshners in sight!

hah ai should try that, so that people go in my car and it smells great and not like asss from my cigs

This thread has been one of my favs for killing time at work. I rarely use the AC, and almost always ride with the windows open, but I;ve changed that filter 4 or 5 times now since I bought the car, and it keeps amazing me how much stuff gets in there. And people wonder how a car that's a year and half old still smells like new...

ok, i read all 10 pages on this thread.. and no one mentions whether this voids the warranty if you have problems with AC-related parts later on.. Not that it matters much since i will probably do it eventually anyway, but just wanted to know..

i just got my tc last week, and this seems like a great way to keep my car smelling new. How long have people been keeping this filter in? a few months? a few years? and no problems so far?

I've never taken off any interior panels/parts before, so what worries me the MOST is whether constantly taking on/off your glove box will cause it to rattle over time.. i've heard of people complaining of unkown noises/rattles in their scions, so i'd hate for this to be the cause of one of them.. Can anyone atest to the sturdiness of the glove box even after several detachments? And how many times have you taken it off so far?

BTW, this thread is one of the best i've come across so far! Thanks for everyone's input on this!

ok, i read all 10 pages on this thread.. and no one mentions whether this voids the warranty if you have problems with AC-related parts later on.. Not that it matters much since i will probably do it eventually anyway, but just wanted to know..

i just got my tc last week, and this seems like a great way to keep my car smelling new. How long have people been keeping this filter in? a few months? a few years? and no problems so far?

I've never taken off any interior panels/parts before, so what worries me the MOST is whether constantly taking on/off your glove box will cause it to rattle over time.. i've heard of people complaining of unkown noises/rattles in their scions, so i'd hate for this to be the cause of one of them.. Can anyone atest to the sturdiness of the glove box even after several detachments? And how many times have you taken it off so far?

BTW, this thread is one of the best i've come across so far! Thanks for everyone's input on this!
this will no void the warranty unless you put this filter somewhere else where it shouldnt be but i would highly doubt the dealer even knows about this or the parts manager. Most keep it for at least 2-3 months. You can go longer depending on where you live and how poluted it is there? If you put it back the right way, it shouldnt cause any rattle. Never heard of doing this mod causing that.

It wont take you but 1 min to take it apart. You cant mess this up, and if you do well.....i hope you at least know how to drive your car?

Here's an update on the dryer sheet, it only lasted one week. Can't smell it anymore. :(

The glove box is very sturdy. In all honesty, I've detached mine atleast 15-20 times so far and still works like a champ and no noises/rattles. If something goes wrong down the road just make sure you take the filter out, they'll never know. However I would change it about every 3 months, unless you live in a really dirty/smog/dusty place and use the outside air setting constantly. Then I would just periodically check on it.

The glove box is very sturdy. In all honesty, I've detached mine atleast 15-20 times so far and still works like a champ and no noises/rattles. If something goes wrong down the road just make sure you take the filter out, they'll never know.

this will no void the warranty unless you put this filter somewhere else where it shouldnt be but i would highly doubt the dealer even knows about this or the parts manager. Most keep it for at least 2-3 months. You can go longer depending on where you live and how poluted it is there? If you put it back the right way, it shouldnt cause any rattle.

Thanks for sharing! I'll definitely do it now!

Especially since bugs keep getting inside my car from who knows where!?! And I NEVER open my windows when driving, even in stop & go traffic.

It's been only a week, and TWICE now, i'm just driving down the highway and i feel something fly into my face!! WTF??!! A bug!? One was really small, no problem.. but the other one was quite big! Long and skinny, with a hard beetle-like shell that I couldn't squish!!
Ugh! This has got to stop! :tap:

So...why do we have dust covers on our stereos, but Scion didn't put filters in the cabin tray?

So...why do we have dust covers on our stereos, but Scion didn't put filters in the cabin tray?

Because it's not only a dust cover, but a shield to protect from prying eyes that may want your system. If they can't see it, then it may deter them from breaking into the car if the thing isn't going to be worth money. I personally think its more for show and to make the waterfall flow better with the interior

That was simple. Now I need a filter to keep the pollen off the car's exterior.

Yeah get the ultra allergen one like the guy in the first post has. That's the only type I use and this is what mine looked like that I just changed this weekend. It was only used for about 2-3 months and only on recirculate too, never outside air drawn in except for when windows are down. Decided to tape the new one's edges, got tired of sticking my fingers on it.

http://img105.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2007/06/03/06560663-46oxus787.jpg

:bow: nice DIY

I know this may be a little off topic for this post because everyone is making their own air filter but does anyone know the Toyota part number and price for an air filter on an '07 tC. I've seen stuff for the xA and xB but nothing for an "official" air filter on the tC. Thanks.

I know this may be a little off topic for this post because everyone is making their own air filter but does anyone know the Toyota part number and price for an air filter on an '07 tC. I've seen stuff for the xA and xB but nothing for an "official" air filter on the tC. Thanks.

Please read the thread - it's in here...

For about the 12th time... :P

Toyota Echo (00-04), RAV4 (01-06), Scion (03-06)
Cabin Air Filter 88568-52010
Style: Air Filter Panel
Service: Cabin Air
Media: Batt/Fiber
Length: 8.504
Width: 7.716
Height: 0.709

http://tijil.org/Scion_air_filter.jpg

xA/xB CABIN AIR FILTER: Toyota 88568-52010, WIX 24900, DENSO 4531014, Puro C38188, MicronAir TY00166P, Bosch #P3750, Valvoline C38188,

http://tijil.org/Denso_cabin_filter.jpg
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2233992#2233992

For about the 12th time... :P

Toyota Echo (00-04), RAV4 (01-06), Scion (03-06)
Cabin Air Filter 88568-52010
Style: Air Filter Panel
Service: Cabin Air
Media: Batt/Fiber
Length: 8.504
Width: 7.716
Height: 0.709

http://tijil.org/Scion_air_filter.jpg

xA/xB CABIN AIR FILTER: Toyota 88568-52010, WIX 24900, DENSO 4531014, Puro C38188, MicronAir TY00166P, Bosch #P3750, Valvoline C38188,

http://tijil.org/Denso_cabin_filter.jpg
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2233992#2233992

Then this should be the 12th time you have heard "Thank you" then. Honestly though I do appreciate it.

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I brought my car to the dealer, showed them the empty tray, and the instructions in the manual for replacing it... they gave me a toyota filter for free. No duct-tape required.

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thats after a year of usage.. lol

Nice DIY

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thats after a year of usage.. lol

Dam thats dirty! :doh:

Why isn't this made a sticky?

Why isn't this made a sticky?

Because it's in the tech section as a tech article - have you ever looked at all the tech stuff up there in those gray buttons? :)

Tom

ooohh thats what those are :)

Would you believe after owning my car now for soooooo long I never knew I had an a/c filter, I thought it was only on 06' and up. Anyways, I happened to be at the dealer today and asked them if they had a filter for my car and they said " um we don't show anything for the Tc and according to this chart there is blah blah blah..." anyways!!!!
I work at Lexus so I am just going to see if a filter from an ES330 will fit, I will find out tomorrow. If anyone cares to know if I find something like price and part numbers or whatever let me know...

I am soooo happy I can install an a/c filter on my ride it makes such a difference! Shame on Scion for not even installing a filter or even mentioning anything about an a/c filter in my owners manual.

Dang I wrote a lot :P

that is one dirty filter

This is interesting....my electronic parts catalog shows a cabin air filter case (aka tray), but no filter.
My fast moving parts book says:
"The Scion tC cannot be retrofitted with a Cabin Air Filter or Case part number due to cooling system operations."

Yeah, that's what the parts guy said to me. lol

ok, i just got my tc last week, and this seems like a great way to keep my car smelling new.

If you want to keep that new car smell you should fart with the windows down!


Man, I am hyper tonight...

dude just buy the in cabin air filter its on $10 it mean come on its the air u breath the one from toyota is perfect and made to fit and made to filter

dude just buy the in cabin air filter its on $10 it mean come on its the air u breath the one from toyota is perfect and made to fit and made to filter

True, but it doesn't filter nearly as well as the equivalent $1/filter you can make from a nice full-size filter from Lowe's or Home Depot

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There it is, the finished product. I had to cut some of the edges for it to fit, not sure if Toyota has an exact fit for this so I used an a/c filter that fits an RX300 and IS300, it cost me 13 bucks. If you want to do this on your own be careful not to cut too much!

Notice the small edges where the filter rests, yep, that's there for a reason.

Well after installation I noticed a decrease in air output so maybe once the filter gets dirty I will not replace it, but we'll see. :clap:

Yeah, the exact fit filter is Toyota 88568-52010...

Tom

funny thing is the site tom refered to doesn't seel the denso ones anymore, and the filters are 13.95.....

Yup. :(

Tom

I am going to go to home depot to pick this up. What section is the Klima-Cleaner and filters in? The filters look like home air condition filters but they seem to be a lot narrower.

I don't think Klima-Cleaner is available at Home Depot...could be wrong but I think you have to get it online. I got two cans for like 20 bucks I think. Here's the link to the site I got mine from...They raised it 2 bucks from the beginning of this year :( http://stores.1z-usa.com/-strse-Interior-and-Exterior-cln-A-fdsh-C-Cleaner/Categories.bok

whoa tom did not know you were in the seattle area.
I ordered the npn air filters from the site you recommended and they came the next day. easy, breezy install. perfect fit
nice quality filter too..olala

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a132/msndomino/DSC06831.jpg

I am going to go to home depot to pick this up. What section is the Klima-Cleaner and filters in? The filters look like home air condition filters but they seem to be a lot narrower.

Do you have a Lowe's? Go there.

Otherwise, Home Depot keeps it in irrelevant sections... I think at my HD, the filters were next to the PVC pipes. No kidding. Took me about 45 minutes to find it.

Tried asking someone, he didn't acknowledge me for the longest time and then also obviously lied to me just to get me to go away.

I have more HD stories, but I won't put them here. Just know that HD is a waste of space on this planet. Go to Lowe's if you can - they still know who the customer is.

im going to have to look for it soon because everybody posting is saying how great it is. I have a home depot and lowes right next to each other so I will deff try and get it soon.

so i got the same filter as the poster, and being the dumby i am, i just began tearing off the cardboard and forgot which side was top and stuff.

so i just chose a side and put the filter in and turned on the ac. i put my hand to the ac and i checked how much air went through. and then i took out my filter and turned the filter upside down and check my ac again. i couldnt really tell the difference between either side.

will there be a difference once i start driving and i dont turn on my ac but allow air into my car? and how will i know if i put in my filter the wrong way?

great diy btw. cutting and removing the cardboard from the filter is one hell of a battle though

Hmmm, with mine I noticed a big drop in air flow, weird. However, my solution to the cardboard issue...just cut the filter area without the cardboard. You can't make as many filters but I don't have to fight with cardboard either.

I've should have read this thread a long time ago. Its been about 3 months since something started to smell when I turn on the vent fan or as the car moves while driving. Terrible terrible smell...... Just recently intalled it today. Did the Home Depot version. Rode the tC a bit afterwards and the smell started to die off a bit. Hopefully gone by the end of this week.

Gonna buy that German cleaner thingy, hopefully that works well. Thanks again. :bow:

^ yea i was looking around for that german cleaner and it turns out that the price on their webpage seems like its the price everybody sells it for. Also - i think the tube on theirs is longer then the ones for other brands. I was at AutoZone and they had some similar other chemicals and the tube was Very short.

I've should have read this thread a long time ago. Its been about 3 months since something started to smell when I turn on the vent fan or as the car moves while driving. Terrible terrible smell...... Just recently intalled it today. Did the Home Depot version. Rode the tC a bit afterwards and the smell started to die off a bit. Hopefully gone by the end of this week.

Gonna buy that German cleaner thingy, hopefully that works well. Thanks again. :bow:


if you smell it that bad you surely are a prime person to get that spray. Once you have mold growing in your vents I doubt it will totally go away w/ the filter but you are just masking things. You need to get rid of that mold and then put a filter on. BTW are you noticing any large air blockage after installing the filter?

Sorry if this has already been addressed, but I just want to confirm whether it's ok to use a self-made cabin air filter for the tC or we can only use an OEM one.

yup, its fine to use a "homemade" one as in you buy a big airfilter panel and cut it to size for the tray. Or you can get the OEM one, either/or will work.

Sorry if this has already been addressed, but I just want to confirm whether it's ok to use a self-made cabin air filter for the tC or we can only use an OEM one.

They are fine - you are cutting out free flowing filter. As long as you put it in and things are flowing fine ....then thats that. If you notice there is less flow you need to flip over the filter and reinsert. Simple as that.

I've should have read this thread a long time ago. Its been about 3 months since something started to smell when I turn on the vent fan or as the car moves while driving. Terrible terrible smell...... Just recently intalled it today. Did the Home Depot version. Rode the tC a bit afterwards and the smell started to die off a bit. Hopefully gone by the end of this week.

Gonna buy that German cleaner thingy, hopefully that works well. Thanks again. :bow:


if you smell it that bad you surely are a prime person to get that spray. Once you have mold growing in your vents I doubt it will totally go away w/ the filter but you are just masking things. You need to get rid of that mold and then put a filter on. BTW are you noticing any large air blockage after installing the filter?

Didn't notice much blockage of the air. I was driving around without the fan turned on and air still was kicking in from outside. And yes, its true, I definitely need to that that cleaner. The filter made the air breathable but the odor is still there. Gotta get one ASAP.

Quick Question...... Where do I apply the Klima Cleaner?

down the air vent .... i think people are saying the center one? can someone confirm?

I don't think I read any replies mentioning the size of the filter.

The dimensions of the homemade filter should be cut to 7.625" x 8.5" in order to fit in the case.

Went to buy myself the Klima Cleaner from DriveWerks.com and it seems I'm getting 1 for the price of 2. WTF..... :tap: $12 for it and $5.25 for shipping.....should have only been $17.25. But I was charged THAT and another $20.25. Maybe it was a mistake... I'll wait and see tomorrow when they reply, as of now.... I don't recommend them.

dang...that sucks, I just buy it straight from the company itself.

down the air vent .... i think people are saying the center one? can someone confirm?

CENTER or PASSENGER SIDE.

Other recommendations:

1. Make sure the setting is on FRESH and NOT RE-CYLCE/RECIRCULATE
2. Make sure setting is on "BODY -->" and not on Foot, Foot/Body, or Defrost.

Went to buy myself the Klima Cleaner from DriveWerks.com and it seems I'm getting 1 for the price of 2. WTF..... :tap: $12 for it and $5.25 for shipping.....should have only been $17.25. But I was charged THAT and another $20.25. Maybe it was a mistake... I'll wait and see tomorrow when they reply, as of now.... I don't recommend them.

I'd try again... it must be a glitch. I just purchased and everything came out right.

Went to buy myself the Klima Cleaner from DriveWerks.com and it seems I'm getting 1 for the price of 2. WTF..... :tap: $12 for it and $5.25 for shipping.....should have only been $17.25. But I was charged THAT and another $20.25. Maybe it was a mistake... I'll wait and see tomorrow when they reply, as of now.... I don't recommend them.

I'd try again... it must be a glitch. I just purchased and everything came out right.


Well the manager replied to me that it was an authorization, which is suppose to be on hold. I've never gone through this type of payment routine but as long as my account balance remains good tomorrow, I'm fine with it. Though they there was a mistake, the shipping charge, seems they couldn't shipping the item since it was hazardous material. So they decided to ship via UPS instead of USPS. That saved me a good $3. :P

I'll see tomorow if they kept their word about it. But the very least, they did a good job on keeping up with my emails.

nice tut ;) ill have to add this into my freaking tC damn you scion for not putting this in my car & you know i livein Cali errr...!!!!

I will definitely be trying the A/C cleaner i just started to get this nasty smell off the vents when i turn the air on. Something like a dirty wet towel ewwww. Hopefully this makes it go away :)

:ponder:

hey it worked :) i was aiming to only use half the can... when i notice that thing was freaken empty! But yeah it got rid off that nasty smell :)

some help for you cheapos out there tC cabin air filter part number 88568-52010-83

me no give damn. i like my custom one better.

Cheapos?
I'm far from cheap, but my filters are better and cost 25% of what yours do!

cool guy wants a sticky....
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=205271&highlight=

^^ Lord. Must be a slow day in York, PA.

yeah I agree the home made ones save money and seem to work better.

you can also get them with scents =)

olala scents?

what do you mean get them with scents? the filters come prescented?

Yeah, pre-scented, I can send you one that smells just like a fresh fart!

lmao I just had this quesadilla thing and woof, watch out... heh heh