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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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i pretty sure this has been answered before, but i couldnt find it in search, so sry if this is a repost.

im deciding on whether to get a injen sri or cai, but i cant find an injen sri for the tc. the website says it hasnt come out yet. but it got tested here:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=92108

anyone know whats up with that?

secondly, i need some help deciding on which one to get. the cai obviously gives more hp, but is a harder install and has the water problem. im looking into the sri because its easy to put in and take out, and because im lookin to get my car a little more torquey.
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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the Injen CAI can be converted to a SRI.

Hopefully that answers about every single question you have.
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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hey dude... the injen CAI can be converted (it's the same product)... also.. if you want help in installing the 2nd (CAI) pipe.... i've done it before and can help you out.

i've driven in heavy rain and have had no problems with water... due to the location of the filter as a CAI, you would have to purposefully (or be stupid enough) to have it suck enough water in to hydrolock. (aka: driving in a two foot puddle/lake)

as for torqueiness, you'll feel a tiny loss in low end, but it makes it up in the high end.
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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cool. thanks guys. how does the sr conversion work, and how much more is it?
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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it works like this.
step 1-dont install the second tube
step2-slap the filter at the end of the first tube
it will cost whatever amount its advertised for because you get the full cai setup you cant just order the sri
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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o i see. thanks a lot man. thanks for the offer too squall. if i go through with this ill hit you up.
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
you would have to purposefully (or be stupid enough) to have it suck enough water in to hydrolock. (aka: driving in a two foot puddle/lake)
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Not True. I hope someone comes after you when they hydrolock for posting this irresponsible info on here. Maybe where YOU live theres LESS of a chance of sucking water..but here in philly theres potholes, hills, crappy roads, puddles, snow, rain, etc... Chances are much higher here that you'll have a problem. NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE.. especially when it comes to cars. there are so many different situations that could cause problems.

Thats fine if YOU want to take your chances..but to tell somebody that theres 'NO WAY' of hydrolocking the tc is RIDICULOUS.
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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i dont think he said theres no way of hydrolocking.like he was saying you cant hydrolock driving through potholes unless they suck up your entire car or rain and snow.yeah there is a small posibility that you might but not likely driving through all that.you would really have to drive through a puddle or lake to hydrolock.put it like this if the water reaches up to your bumper then yeah you might hydrolock.so unless you drive through really high water dont worry about it
Old Mar 12, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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i totally agree...the roads in philly sux...and when it rainz...IT RAINZ!!!...SRI is better for philly wheather..esp for an auto because we need that low end torque. However you can adjusted ever 2 seasons, for example when i get my injen iam gonna keep it on SRI in winter and spring and convert it to CAI + AEM by-pass valve in summer and fall
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everytime i go through the car wash and have the underbody washed i always wonder... if i had a cai would i risk hydrolocking with water spraying up into my car?

i have the sri setup and i am happy with it. i dont see how much more cold air you can really get with a cai. the fresh air from the outside is always coming into the engine bay. and maybe the little bit of air that would be colder would probably be reduced from the heat of the engine bay soaking into the pipe.
Old Mar 13, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AtC2nv
when i get my injen iam gonna keep it on SRI in winter and spring and convert it to CAI + AEM by-pass valve in summer and fall
do the aem bypass valves fit all other types of intakes?
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Originally Posted by Jarrod123
everytime i go through the car wash and have the underbody washed i always wonder... if i had a cai would i risk hydrolocking with water spraying up into my car?

i have the sri setup and i am happy with it. i dont see how much more cold air you can really get with a cai. the fresh air from the outside is always coming into the engine bay. and maybe the little bit of air that would be colder would probably be reduced from the heat of the engine bay soaking into the pipe.
BINGO!!!!!! Plus the extra length of piping reduces the density of the air and creates more restriction in the air flow.

and Contrary to what some VERY MISINFORMED people may think... The Filter HEad Does NOT have to be SUBMERGED in water! ITs like a vacuum...IF a little water SPLASHES on the filter, it can get SUCKED through to your intake manifold.

PUddles and water-filled potholes are VERY common in philly..so u just take your chances thats all. TO me, the risk isn't worth the extra 3 HP, but hey, whatever floats Your TC...no pun intended
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Originally Posted by wubaru
Originally Posted by AtC2nv
when i get my injen iam gonna keep it on SRI in winter and spring and convert it to CAI + AEM by-pass valve in summer and fall
do the aem bypass valves fit all other types of intakes?

well iam not even sure if they have one for the tC, but i dont think its a big deal, jus buy one that the same diameter as your non-AEM intake and it should fit...its almost the same type of clamp as the one you use to connect the two intake pipes with, just make sure both of your pipes are not touching each other and to leave enough room for the "spongy/filtery" meterial to suck air in from the engine bay incase water blocks the CAI pipe....hope this info helps.
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a few things:

- yes, i never said it was impossible to hydrolock a car
- a few drops of water sucked in will NOT hydrolock a car
- AEM bypass will only fit if you modify (aka, CUT) your intake.. i've seen it tried and done, and that's the only way i know is possible
- the CAI extention does help with HP, as little as it is.. but yes, there is a difference
- you lose more low end having it as a SRI, than CAI

my offer still stands, i'll help you install the 2nd pipe, which is normally a pain, if you want me to.
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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I just threw my Injen CAI on a couple of days ago (love it, by the way and I don't know if you can find it elsewhere cheaper, but http://www.trdsparks.com/displaypart...2&parts_id=692 is where I got mine and I can't rep those guys enough). My two cents about hydrolocking:
All of my friends that've had intakes on their cars have never hydrolocked them, and the streets are pretty horrible here (since I live in a "historic" area, they're not big on roadwork) and I completely accept the risk of hydrolock, but doubt that it'll happen. I will probably run SRI in the winter, now that I think about it, because when it snows here, it snows A LOT. My one friend with a Sentra Spec-V hydrolocked his car (well, his brother did ) and, well, it was pretty much because he ran it through a pothole of epic proportions. But what I really want to say is that if anyone offers to help you put the 2nd pipe on, you jump all over it because it was not easy. I scratched the hell out of my pipe in the process and that little rubber thing that they give you to protect against that a) was hard to get on and b) didn't stay on. But enjoy the CAI man. It's well worth it.
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Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
a few things:

- yes, i never said it was impossible to hydrolock a car
- a few drops of water sucked in will NOT hydrolock a car
- AEM bypass will only fit if you modify (aka, CUT) your intake.. i've seen it tried and done, and that's the only way i know is possible
- the CAI extention does help with HP, as little as it is.. but yes, there is a difference
- you lose more low end having it as a SRI, than CAI

my offer still stands, i'll help you install the 2nd pipe, which is normally a pain, if you want me to.

^^^^^^LISTEN TO HIM CAI DOES MAKE MORE POWER THA SRI,
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:08 AM
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Has anyone had issues with the Injen SRI filter rubbing on the car's body?
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:28 AM
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yes i did,i guess its normal
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SquallLHeart
- you lose more low end having it as a SRI, than CAI
torque?i thought a sr gives more torque cuz its faster flowing
Old Mar 14, 2006 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MJVsTC
Has anyone had issues with the Injen SRI filter rubbing on the car's body?
yes. i did and it rubbed a hole in the filter which is why i switched to an injen filter that is a little smaller. if your filter is rubbing call injen. i did and they said it was the first time they heard of the problem. if enough people call maybe they will change the design a little bit.



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