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04-12-2006, 07:16 PM
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http://pressroom.toyota.com/Releases/View?id=TYT2006040504528

April 12, 2006 - New York - Scion, from Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc., unveiled the all-new FUSE Sports Coupe Concept vehicle at a press conference today at the 2006 New York Auto International Show.

Developed by Calty Design Research, Toyota's North American design studio located in Newport Beach, Calif. and Scion's Advanced Product Strategy Team, and built by Five Axis of Huntington Beach, Calif., the all-new FUSE was designed to be the new Scion sports coupe icon. Its goal was to push the limits of a coupe concept by combining entertainment, digital technology, and versatility into one sinister looking package. Most importantly, its styling makes a visual statement about its intention to expand the performance envelope among affordable, entry-level sport coupes.

"The idea of the all-new FUSE Sports Coupe is a reflection of the boundless limits and creative envelope that embodies all the vital personalization components of a Scion product," said Mark Templin, Scion vice president. "Since the launch of Scion three years ago, designers have learned a great deal about what inspires and motivates Scion buyers through its unique vehicle lineup and instilled them into the FUSE."

The exterior of the FUSE was the conception of Calty designers Alex Shen and Bob Mochizuki, who were determined to create a strong performance statement. Inspiration came from the "HAKO" super GT racing cars of Japan, commonly known as the JGTC series. From the side, the FUSE has a low, aggressive stance with a race helmet-inspired wraparound window that provides a panoramic view. The visor-like wraparound windshield is balanced by a strong C-pillar, adding a sense of security and protection.

At first glance, the menacing presence and dark undertones of the FUSE subtly hint there is more than meets the eye. The front of the FUSE glares at you with slim, high-mounted, deep-set headlamps communicating a serious and aggressive attitude. A massive rectangular air intake hints at potential for a large intercooler.

From the back, wide-body rear flares span the entire rear mass, encasing deep-set vertical taillamps. The dual exhaust also serves as fog and reverse lamps as lighting encircles each exhaust tip. Wheels are 20-inch custom-machined with LED's on the end of each spoke, which illuminate as turn indicators.

On top, two horizontal glass panels run the length of the roof, and slide open in both directions offering all occupants access to a personal sunroof. The rear window tapers down to a speed-activated spoiler.

True to the Scion tradition, the FUSE is equipped with extreme levels of personalization accessories. Headlights and fog lamps can be programmed to illuminate in various colors. Videos or images can be downloaded and viewed on a concealed LCD screen behind the front badge. And then there is the interior.

Calty interior designers Alan Schneider and Ichirou Mukai used the long wheelbase and high beltline of the FUSE to help create the interior theme, which revolves around providing the driver with an intense driving environment and occupants an intimate atmosphere. The activation of a small key-shaped sensor unhinges butterfly doors that open to reveal an interior that merges technology, function and racing inspired elements in an asymmetrical pentagon where the driver is positioned at the apex of the surround.

The influence of the "racing tub" in the overall design is obvious. It provides a unique contrast that highlights the floating technical elements of the interior. A drive-by-wire steering interface combines influences from race cars and video game controllers in one innovative driver module. A media station that runs the length of the dash is the focal point of the cabin. Passengers can watch movies, play video games, or do both, with dual display 10.5-inch monitors.

The FUSE interior concept is referred to as "one plus stuff." The design focuses on the driver by offering surprising versatility in the form of three interior arrangements: video, driving and cargo configurations. In its video mode, the front passenger seat folds flat and serves as a table, or footrest. Occupants can utilize video screens or take advantage of wireless fidelity (Wi-Fi) connectivity and instant message their friends. In driving mode, the video screens turn off and a multi-informational display is used for driver information.

Utility is maximized in a cargo mode where the front passenger seat and rear seats fold down to form a flat surface. And, multi-functioning rear cargo access allows stowage of larger items. The FUSE cabin seats four comfortably, however when the car is parked, additional room is available with a tailgate that converts to provide outdoor seating. A sweep of the foot over an infrared sensor located on the lip of the rear bumper opens the rear tailgate and sliding hatch, allowing the tailgate to drop down into a curb-high bench. This surprising seating arrangement is paired with rear foldout speakers for an unexpected social environment. Enhancing the social scene is a detachable drink cooler with a retractable handle, which is integrated into the rear center console.

Additional features include subtle accent lighting on the seats, doors and overhead lining. Deeply contoured seats are upholstered with soft-to-the-touch "Mythos" fabric that wraps around passengers for maximum comfort. Finally, audio, video and HVAC systems are easily controlled by a "vehicle system/communication interface" touch control board that is similar in appearance to a telephone keypad.

"The FUSE is a styling exercise that presents a discussion starting point for Scion owners and other Gen Y consumers with an eye towards a versatile sports coupe," said Templin. "Like previous Scion concepts, the FUSE delivers a unique statement about what the Scion brand is all about and where it is headed."


SCION FUSE SPORTS COUPE CONCEPT VEHICLE PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS

POWERTRAIN
2.4-Liter four-cylinder engine


DIMENSIONS (inches)

Overall Length: 174.0
Overall Width: 70.7
Overall Height: 52.1
Wheelbase: 106.3
Wheels: 20-inch custom-machined
Tire Size: Goodyear P245/35-20

mr2death
04-12-2006, 07:34 PM
Sounds like a party mobile. Wheres the pics and so is it turbo or not?

grandeville
04-12-2006, 07:37 PM
No more power then the Tc? Looks cool!!!

Click [/url]http://scion.com/showroom/concept_cars/fuse/

---SMITTY---
04-12-2006, 07:39 PM
Go to go www.autonews.com and click on the the New York Auto Show links. There are three photos of the Fuse. :love:

grandeville
04-12-2006, 07:44 PM
There is a lot of pics on scion.com

J
04-12-2006, 07:44 PM
caranddriver.com has interior shots if u watch the slideshow and the fuse is now also on scion.com

mr2death
04-12-2006, 07:45 PM
In my opinion i think its ugly. All the feature sound like theyre straight out of pimp my ride.
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/autoshow/unveil/2006ny/scion.fuse.concept.jpg

StreetScion
04-12-2006, 07:48 PM
A tC t2b with lambo doors... I'll be honest, this one might have to grow on me... The butt kinda looks like a Crossfire... I'm sure they'll bring something much more appealing to production.

TANTALIZEDMIND
04-12-2006, 07:56 PM
All the incredible featues are awesome. But same engine as the tC..... DISAPPOINTING! And the Fuse must weigh so much more than the tC. It's gonna be a slow ride.

TANTALIZEDMIND
04-12-2006, 07:58 PM
The xB abd xA are supposed to be replaced in the next year or two. And we haven't heard a thing (officially) what's going to replace them. I don't want to see Concept Vehicles.. I want planned and set future vehicles.

scionlife
04-12-2006, 08:10 PM
Added to the ScionLife Concept Pages:
www.scionlife.com/scion/fuse/

JuicyJ
04-12-2006, 08:51 PM
i love it..I love Scion for thinking "out the box". It's refreshing to see..you know I always wanted to know what it would feel like to sit in a spaceship.!

foodswami
04-12-2006, 09:07 PM
gang of pictures @ autoblog

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/12/new-york-auto-show-scion-s-fuse-gets-lit/

rear seats look wild

SpeciaL1_575
04-12-2006, 09:26 PM
This is really dissapointing. there is nothing on that car that would go into production. Scion really failed on this one.. They should be looking more towards the sporty crowd if they want to sell a coupe.

With mazda nearing production of the Kabura(or it looks like it) that has a estimated pricetag of sub 20,000$ 170hp RWD and LIGHT. the current tc wouldnt last long. Keeping the same 2.4ltr is ok but keeping it FWD wouldnt be wise.

It seems like there is a growing number of people getting interested in Drifting and scion would be a perfect maker to support it. A budget rwd light coupe with a sub 20k price tag. w/o the stupid tv's, gullwing doors, and a rear couch or whatever the fuse has.

but this is just a concept. nothing more.

jdgriswald
04-12-2006, 09:31 PM
Damn, that C pillar needs it's own zip code.

jct
04-12-2006, 09:38 PM
look at that huge blind spot!!!

jay_jay_n
04-12-2006, 09:38 PM
omg NOOO... ohh well insane concept.. luckily its just a concept.. daym doors are huge!! AND A COUCH in the rear seat lol

PrivateTucker
04-12-2006, 09:43 PM
THat car in its entirety will never see the light of day. It's too much like the t2b

mikochu
04-12-2006, 09:44 PM
I think it's nice, conceptually...but it's meh. :P

deloreanz
04-12-2006, 10:17 PM
I love the "power on" symbol button on the steering wheel. Assumably the ignition. :P

GEOLAN4
04-12-2006, 10:56 PM
Kinda batmobile meets something James Bond would have

Max
04-12-2006, 11:24 PM
The back end is completely not what I expected. Very wagonish. I'd own one.

mandangalo
04-12-2006, 11:24 PM
not bad, not bad.

doctorcue
04-12-2006, 11:30 PM
This will never be made. That being said, I would buy it. I really like how they are pushing the design envelope. Sure, some of this may seem outlandish, but I could see the instrument panel in the steering wheel (that always stays level). The rear seat/couch is bada**!

Just remember, this is just a concept to show off Scion's alter/counter/etc design philosophy. They are making something that will only appeal to a select audience. Hence, making it exclusive & cool.

Who knows what will come down the road? Yet, I'd grab the keys to that in a minute!

SorcererXIII
04-13-2006, 02:05 AM
I'm hoping that the production version looks something like this, just less bulky . . . otherwise I like the dramatic styling.

Oh, and a more powerful stock engine . . . somehow the extra power seems more palatable when it's part of the vehicle cost and not an add-on.

koasterking
04-13-2006, 02:24 AM
It's a nice little coupe! I like it! It has some very nice featuers to it like color-changing headlights and exhaust tips, a pull-out bench in the rear, and my favorite, the color-changing emblem.

Can't wait to see it this friday at the NY auto show!!

curtydc
04-13-2006, 03:05 AM
wow, scion just can't stay away from american designs, sure it's suppose to be an american brand, but it's toyota!

I can see the C 300, the Charger, and the already used t2B.
Absolutely dissapointing, but scion is good at that.

Keitaro
04-13-2006, 03:43 AM
Life size revamp version of the t2B coupe
http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/3341460724746661.JPG

Those doors somewhat mimics the Toyota Sera
http://www.eaglekitcars.co.uk/images/Gullwing/sera.jpg

Gambit7
04-13-2006, 03:55 AM
I love that car!!!! The blind spot has got to go, but other that, this thing ROCKS!!!!!!

thefoth
04-13-2006, 04:17 AM
I'm not 100% a fan of it, BUT I like the feel. It's modern, slick and clean with a hint of old school gangster.

hotbox05
04-13-2006, 04:23 AM
old school gangster. lol

thefoth
04-13-2006, 04:34 AM
Just a hint, not as much as the 300c.

thefoth
04-13-2006, 04:34 AM
Just a hint :) , not as much as the 300c.

Skunk
04-13-2006, 05:33 AM
I'm generally not a fan of "boxy" styling, I have to say that car looks really nice. The C-pillars need to be dropped in favor of something more feasible in a production model though. Interior is sweet as hell. As awesome as it is, I doubt the media center would make it to production because so many states have laws against video screens in view of the driver. Unless it's disabled while the car is in motion.

kungpaosamuraiii
04-13-2006, 05:34 AM
Who else here thinks it's ugly?

I find it a corruption of all that is "sporty." How can Scion call that an icon of Scion sports in the future? With all those features it's got to be extraordinarily heavy and it certainly does not look slim so the body panels and whatnot have got to put some extra weight onto the car. Imagine throwing 3500 lbs through a mountain road. It'll take some extra stiff suspension to keep that sucker on the pavement.

Hood scoop, big grill, whatever. It's an automatic. I know some of the fastest cars in the world are automatics but having a computer shift for you takes the sport away from a sports car. Unless the car is going over 200 mph then I don't see any reason the enthusiast driver shouldn't shift for himself. I can't see any sport in automatics. Even if it goes fast... a 300C can go pretty fast but I think very few would agree that it's a sports car.

In all, I feel the FUSE is a perversion of all that is sporty.


It IS a nice car though :D If ugly.

TheQuietThings
04-13-2006, 05:41 AM
look at the interior! gorgeous!!!!

avus
04-13-2006, 05:57 AM
alright, it took me a while but i finally figured it out... i've seen this exterior design before - or rather, designs before...
here's how i see the Fuse: t2b front end with a (nissan azeal + nissan sport concept) rear
sorry scion, not too original...
and that goes for the interior as well -- the t2b and the toyota F3R interiors were much more creative
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/04/16-Scion-FUSE.jpg
http://www.automotivearticles.com/uploads/azeal.jpg
http://www.motorpasion.com/archivos/images/nissan_sc.jpg

FUSE
04-13-2006, 06:31 AM
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/30794_1.jpg

hotbox05
04-13-2006, 07:11 AM
ummm doesnt look too much of a copy to me . the tc is more of a copy car than the fuse ever will be.

TeamTengu
04-13-2006, 07:12 AM
I think it looks alright. It's got a nice wide stance and agressive looks. The interior... I'm not so much a fan of. Too much silver. Kinda looks tacky. The driver's display looks kinda cool though. It's like the last Celica's display, but more evolved and futuristic. If they could just get that cockpit feeling in that car with an HUD on the windshield, add a factory turbo/blower, make sure it's lighter than the tC, and make it cheap, I think it would be a great car.

hotbox05
04-13-2006, 07:15 AM
I think it looks alright. It's got a nice wide stance and agressive looks. The interior... I'm not so much a fan of. Too much silver. Kinda looks tacky. The driver's display looks kinda cool though. It's like the last Celica's display, but more evolved and futuristic. If they could just get that cockpit feeling in that car with an HUD on the windshield, add a factory turbo/blower, make sure it's lighter than the tC, and make it cheap, I think it would be a great car.

all of you guys are hilarious.


you all want awd or rwd , 200+ hp turbo/supercharged super cars in a 2xk car. which would have to be under 20k to be a scion.




yes the car looks heavy it probably is but it doesnt have to be. if they put regular doors , regular rear hatch , smaller wheels it could be a very lightweight car.

TOAST3R
04-13-2006, 07:48 AM
This is really dissapointing. there is nothing on that car that would go into production. Scion really failed on this one.. They should be looking more towards the sporty crowd if they want to sell a coupe.

With mazda nearing production of the Kabura(or it looks like it) that has a estimated pricetag of sub 20,000$ 170hp RWD and LIGHT. the current tc wouldnt last long. Keeping the same 2.4ltr is ok but keeping it FWD wouldnt be wise.

It seems like there is a growing number of people getting interested in Drifting and scion would be a perfect maker to support it. A budget rwd light coupe with a sub 20k price tag. w/o the stupid tv's, gullwing doors, and a rear couch or whatever the fuse has.

but this is just a concept. nothing more.

tc drivers cant even handle fwd cars without losing control and crashing them, theyd be wrecking a rwd scion left and right. insurance would be insane on it

deloreanz
04-13-2006, 10:26 AM
I keep thinking Nissan 350z when I see the Fuse concept... Then again, I thought BMW when I saw the tC and Rice Crispies box when I saw the xB.

bBlover
04-13-2006, 02:38 PM
I like it!! I'd drive it and for those that don't like it beacuse nothing can go into production, its a concept its not really supposed to have anything that can go into production, that's the purpose of a concept. Go on and hate me but its the truth. I like the head and fog lamp color change Scion put that into production!! :pray: I know its not legal but who's gonna tell?

dekomi
04-13-2006, 03:05 PM
http://enports.joins.com/component/htmlphoto_mmdata/200604/htm_200604130904220305000003050100-001.jpg

New picture for Scion Fuse in NY

Syxxpac
04-13-2006, 03:56 PM
I keep thinking Nissan 350z when I see the Fuse concept... Then again, I thought BMW when I saw the tC and Rice Crispies box when I saw the xB.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Syxxpac
04-13-2006, 03:58 PM
I like it!! I'd drive it and for those that don't like it beacuse nothing can go into production, its a concept its not really supposed to have anything that can go into production, that's the purpose of a concept. Go on and hate me but its the truth. I like the head and fog lamp color change Scion put that into production!! :pray: I know its not legal but who's gonna tell?
it is legal if they wire it so that when the car is in drive it will automatically be white and not be able to change it. just make it so that it will only change colors when the car is in park. kinda like they can wire dvd HU's so they cant play while driving.

ShaolinSuckerPunch
04-13-2006, 05:38 PM
I think it's pretty hot. But it shouldn't be called a sports coupe. It seems like this would compete more against something like a Mazda 3 hatch or the new Dodge Caliber or something.

Like most said though... this wouldn't see production. And if it does, it'll look vastly different. Obviously they'd fix the blindspot and do away with the lambo doors. Remember how aggressive the tC concept looks?

As far as complaints about power and speed... I love my tC to death, but will be the first to say that you don't buy a Scion looking for drag racing performance. The FUSE is all about utility, and does it rather well. I absolutely love the double sun-roof.

I also agree that I'm tired of seeing Concepts. I want to know what the next-gen Scions are gonna look like, not some dream car that encompasses 'Scion's different attitude to car design'.

Sci0nXa
04-13-2006, 05:48 PM
I love it! Scions intention is to get more customers, and a different car will do that. Look at the xb ( I also like), not all xa and tc owners like it. Vice versa on the xa and tc. Just cuz someone hates it doesn't mean everyone will. And as for the fuse looking alike something else, every design has a touch of another. The xb; astro van. Xa; too many to list. Tc; its a coupe!!! But its all on how its put together.

ShaolinSuckerPunch
04-13-2006, 05:50 PM
Oh, I also totally dig the light up logo...I wonder if there is a way to mod my rear logo and make it into a brake light? Hells yeah.

Also, is that dual exhaust on a 4-banger? What's the other pipe for? And the rings around the pipes...do those light up? One looks like a brake light and the other for when going in reverse?

avus
04-13-2006, 07:18 PM
newsflash... here's the off-road version of the fuse... hehehe
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/02/vwconceptar.JPG
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/02/vwconceptar3-4.JPG

i understand that most design is derivative - don't get me wrong, i actually like the Fuse concept. all i'm saying is that this design 'theme' has already been on the car show circuit for almost 2 years.
it'll be interesting to see who actually brings this design idea to production first.

cyergey
04-13-2006, 09:08 PM
Wow...I certainly hope that they do not bring that to production. Good luck if you are a passenger in the rear seat. There are no side windows. In addition, what's with the rear exhaust. One red and one white. It looks like RCA jacks on my TV.

hotbox05
04-13-2006, 10:34 PM
wow. well it's probably 80% love it and 20% hate it. sounds like production time , well minus all the very expensive , heavy , easily broken components.

ninjaionsobe
04-13-2006, 11:49 PM
its like looking at my new tC for the first time, i want it!! fit me LIKE A GLOVE

scion_adam
04-14-2006, 01:49 AM
Who cares about LED on the wheels and exhaust or any of that other crap. Toyota need to build a car that can compete with the 350Z on both style and performance and stop worrying about all that "feng shui interior crap" that I keep seeing in every one of their concepts. End of story.

scion_adam
04-14-2006, 01:50 AM
And did I mention that the FUSE is ugly?

Big_Pimpin'
04-14-2006, 01:55 AM
I WANT ONE NOW!!!!!!! :evil:

The day this is released (if ever) the box goes on the block and is gone...to be replaced by the....the.....what the heck would it be called, anyway?

I don't care, I still want one.

Ghost04
04-14-2006, 02:02 AM
I've lost my love affair with Scion.

The tC was and still is a sick little car. In fact, it's the only car in my price range that I actually want. Other than that, I've lost all hope on the Scion brand. Now I understand this is a concept, and that it probably won't make production looking like that, but either way it's ridiculous.

I understand that "To each their own." but frankly, I don't think I can bring myself to buy a scion anymore. Let down after letdown in the design department.

I think I'm just going to keep putting money into my old camry until I can find one of the new ones at a used pricetag.

hotbox05
04-14-2006, 04:32 AM
what are you talking about? the tc is bland and copy cat . the camry is bland and boring. what kind of car should scion make for YOU......

Boxer_Rebellion
04-14-2006, 04:54 AM
Seeing as this car is positioned around 10k less than a 350z I don't think it was designed to be a competitor. As it is, it fills a niche that the current TC does, and if produced it would have no competition except for the new Civic Si. I dig the Civic but think the Fuse has way more potential personally. I hope the show car gimmicks don't see production, but the basic form is unique (reminds me of the Renault Alpine from the early 80's) and has alot more presence than the TC does IMO...

hotbox05
04-14-2006, 05:22 AM
lol this car 25k or 22k ? no way in hell at least no where near as optioned out as this one is.

PatD
04-14-2006, 12:56 PM
Just another car that wont come out. Just like the t2b.

gizmoviki73
04-14-2006, 03:26 PM
I think it's kewl, but doubt it will look like that when it actually comes out. I agree on a RWD coupe and can't wait for redesigned xB next year, with xA to follow.

Viki

FUSE
04-14-2006, 03:28 PM
cool pics of the FUSE...can see the scale of the car
urbanracer.com/gallery

dante
04-14-2006, 03:58 PM
I like it. I'm not crazy about the styling (actually I like that Nissan concept or the Azeal the best...), but I'm loving the fact that they're making a coupe with practicality in mind. The main draw to my tC wasn't the speed/handling, but rather the fact that it was a good looking car with a LOT of versatility. The features, price, and the fact that with the back seats down it holds a ton of stuff really sealed the deal. I'm glad that they're looking at keeping up that versatility aspect in the new coupe, and hope that it makes it into production (for whatever replaces the tC...).

scion_adam
04-14-2006, 03:59 PM
Seeing as this car is positioned around 10k less than a 350z I don't think it was designed to be a competitor.


I never said it was. I said Toyota needs to produce a car that can compete and stop with all these concepts that are really nothing but garbage.

ConjunctionJunction
04-14-2006, 05:49 PM
___ ___ ___ ___

the fact that they have this character on the page is evidence of this.

http://www.comfx.com/v.php?d=859854

Cars with excessively hip lifestyle marketing suck. The Honda Element is good evidence of "youth marketing" gone wrong. The Element coincidentally appealed with 50 year olds and is a slow mover for Honda.

This concept should die. RWD is interesting, but they are not understanding the youth/tuner market correctly. Way to go. "how rockstar" how edgy and blunt...yet conformist and not refreshing. Buy this concept, get a free trucker hat!

The Mazda concept is much more appealing to me, as they are focusing on the car, and not the lifestyle.

hotbox05
04-14-2006, 07:59 PM
where does it state rwd? i bet it won't be if it ever comes out. oh and might wanna watch the whole calling everything "___" makes you sound like an immature homophobe.

cars with excessively hip lifestyle marketing suck? really is that why you have a tc?


moded , lol

ConjunctionJunction
04-14-2006, 08:30 PM
The point is, I dont like the direction and marketing of that concept car. Politically correct or not as calling it ___ might be. In fact, Homosexuals tend to have more taste and maturity than that gimicky thing, so perhaps that was indeed the wrong misnomer. But this is a discussion about the "FUSE", which isn't very 'explosive'. Anal explosion perhaps.

I got my tC because it was inexpensive, a practical commuter, had many features and is still a "Toyota". Sure, Scion's a youth oriented brand, but the youth marketing isn't driving all of the sales.

Seriously though, did you look at the character they had on Scion's Press Release web page? That K-Fed looking doofus is supposed represent the target demographic of the car.

I'm pretty sure the FUSE has it's own MySpace page too. moded indeed.

/now back to the topic at hand.

Chillaxin206
04-14-2006, 08:41 PM
not a fan.

grizzly_choppers
04-14-2006, 08:50 PM
Okay, so I'm going to post because in the unveil video on Scion.com the presenter said that they were looking forward to hearing from people on the boards. Here goes...

I dig on the style. It looks tough and beefy. The c-pillar isn't really THAT much bigger than the current tC and I like the style of that. I really like the doors. It's been a long while since a decently affordable car has been available in the US with vertical/gull wing doors. It's a mod many here on Scion Life have done or have dreamed about and it would be great to have it with factory reliability. The body lines are really good and I know that back end will grow on me just like the tC did (I never liked that at release).

The interior has some neat tricks and the overall style is good. I would, however, like to see more realistic guages and other controls. We all know what can be done with today's technology when you don't have to drive it around. We want to see what you WILL do or at least what is feesable in a daily driver.

I will add my voice to those here who have requested to see more "closer to production" concepts rather than these "design exercises". Also, as a coupe concept this FUSE is the heir apparent to the tC. Scion's own market research indicates HEAVILY that the #1 thing all tC buyers are concerned with is POWER. Therefore it would make sense that the powertrain should be featured extensively in a release of this sort. All we got with this release is a line about it having a 2.4L 4-cylinder and an air scoop that "hints of a large intercooler". Every other person in this thread has mentioned either power or RWD. That should be very telling to Scion.

So, in summary, concept on the outside is good, design of the inside is good, technology on the inside is impractical and comes off that way, and power is...not really mentioned much.

I like the FUSE, but want to see it in person. Current Scion buyers didn't say that when these cars were released and they don't say that today when they come to me and order these cars.

That's my .02 Scion, thanks for asking.

-Alex

shorganjr
04-14-2006, 10:05 PM
I went to the NY Auto Show and the first display as soon as you walk in the Javits Center is all the Scions. You don't even have to pay to see them since they're before the ticket takers. I will post pics once I download them to my laptop. They've also got the tC RS 2.0 on display (it's number 3 of 2600). Every hour on the hour they give a display on all the features of the FUSE. Even though it is a concept, it's still pretty killer. I'm not disappointed in the least. The "butterfly" doors have a gas shock to assist it in lifting. The piping in the seats is that orange glow wire and all the guages are on the steering wheel. There's two monitors on the dash for multimedia and stuff. Two sensors on the rear bumper which will open the rear hatch. I like that Scion is still pushing the edge with this design, but still keeping with the tradition of Scion's t2b concept. The quirky headlights are actually "mood" lights which can change to about 5 different colors I think. The Scion emblem on the front actually has an LCD behind it constantly rotating the swirl. The 20 inch wheels have the turn signal side marker lights on each spoke. I'm sure I'm repeating a lot of stuff that has already been said or whaterver, but I could honestly talk about it for an hour. It's a really tight design that would be awesome as a production vehicle, but I won't hold my breath.....

hotbox05
04-14-2006, 10:07 PM
The point is, I dont like the direction and marketing of that concept car. Politically correct or not as calling it ___ might be. In fact, Homosexuals tend to have more taste and maturity than that gimicky thing, so perhaps that was indeed the wrong misnomer. But this is a discussion about the "FUSE", which isn't very 'explosive'. Anal explosion perhaps.

I got my tC because it was inexpensive, a practical commuter, had many features and is still a "Toyota". Sure, Scion's a youth oriented brand, but the youth marketing isn't driving all of the sales.

Seriously though, did you look at the character they had on Scion's Press Release web page? That K-Fed looking doofus is supposed represent the target demographic of the car.

I'm pretty sure the FUSE has it's own MySpace page too. moded indeed.

/now back to the topic at hand.
that kfed is all over scions page.

all the people on the scion page looks retarded but that's how it is.

no the youth marketing isnt pushing the sales so why should it matter to you how it's marketed.

what is so "gimicky" about the fuse? u mean all the electronic this and electronic that ? IT'S A CONCEPT CAR!!!!!! it'll look like that........

hotbox05
04-14-2006, 10:10 PM
telling to scion or not. they cant make a high powered (feature rich) vehicle under 20k....... end of story.

rwd? toyota along with almost every other carmaker shyed away for many reasons . mostly incapable drivers.


and with tc drivers totalling their cars left and right the last thing they need is rwd.

wesf23
04-15-2006, 01:37 AM
looks good in person, don't know if this was mentioned but the tailgate opens to form a seat for hanging out, all the lights look pretty cool up close

Show them your key and you get a hat!

Gamma
04-15-2006, 04:27 PM
I'm with ConjunctionJunction on this topic. I'm actually insulted by scion marketing, and think that this concept is a horrendous rolling abortion of style. Like a hideous chimera of established styles somehow crushed into this thing. If you could give it a voice, it would beg you to drive it off a cliff.

I bought my tC because it had the best standard features and horsepower by far over any competition, and I could get it for MSRP without paying exorbitant markup. Then I promptly removed all exterior badging.

I'm depressed at all the comments I see from the people who like the Fuse. All the 'features' are just idiotic flash and shiny lights. How on earth that passes for "pushing the edge" is beyond me. I'd rather have cargo room and a lighter car instead of fold out couches and seats and ____. I don't live in my car.

What should have happened, being that the concept was for a 'sport coupe' is that they should have tried to actually accomplish the best overall design for that kind of car. As it sits now it's like a combination of a coupe and a crossover, if such a thing is possible.

Toyota has it in their power to make a truly great sporty car, but instead we get. this. The rampant copycatting design is depressing. The reason the Xb is so distinctive is because it's a kind of car that's never made it out of japan until now. That style has been around there for decades. The whole scion image is just a poor imitation of real style, and it depresses me that because I happen to own one, I am mixed in with it.

All the kids driving their mother's '92 whatsits, stock speakers straining under maximum volume, riding as low as possible in the seat, cap turned to 60 degrees for maximum attitude and edginess. Those are the kids that say 'hey nice car, man, what is dat' and rev me at stoplights.

Those are the people that like the fuse.

hotbox05
04-15-2006, 06:26 PM
i don';t know why so many people hate a marketing plan. it doesnt make the car. it just gets it out in the public.


the fuse has some silly features yes but imo it looks totally bad arse.

krdshrk
04-15-2006, 09:20 PM
I saw the fuse yesterday - pics tomorrow when i get home. It's a great looking car. Granted, not everyone will like the body style, but what they're mistaking is that this is a CONCEPT. They've been adding new designs and items that make the car completely unique. The features can be used in production model cars. The neat featuresr were the color-changing headlights, the turn signals on the wheels, the video-screen front emblem, monitors in the interior, etc. It's a great car for new technology.

hotbox05
04-15-2006, 10:06 PM
that kind of technology doesn't belong in cars. let aslon in sub 20k cars. I LOVE the style the most.

Nick06tC
04-15-2006, 10:09 PM
I like the fact that alot of people arent to fond of the radical design of the fuse. I look at it and am not thrilled with how off beat it is. But because of that I want one. Different is what tuners go for. And this hits the nail on the head. I think its awesome, and will take on fast. Scion is doing good by going crazy. Hopefully they can keep it up and follow through production.

hotbox05
04-15-2006, 10:10 PM
Oh, and a more powerful stock engine . . . somehow the extra power seems more palatable when it's part of the vehicle cost and not an add-on.


ah but that significantly increases insurance costs.

gcxandy
04-15-2006, 10:31 PM
My pics of teh scion fuse

http://photothru.com/photo_filedbi%5CA4%5CF0%5C43%5CA4F043%5Cviewable%5CA4F043_13218FF2D206_1.jpg

http://photothru.com/photo_filedbi%5CA4%5CF0%5C43%5CA4F043%5Cviewable%5CA4F043_13218FF2D206_2.jpg

http://photothru.com/photo_filedbi%5CA4%5CF0%5C43%5CA4F043%5Cviewable%5CA4F043_13218FF2D207_3.jpg

http://photothru.com/photo_filedbi%5CA4%5CF0%5C43%5CA4F043%5Cviewable%5CA4F043_13218FF2D207_4.jpg

http://photothru.com/photo_filedbi%5CA4%5CF0%5C43%5CA4F043%5Cviewable%5CA4F043_13218FF2D207_5.jpg

http://photothru.com/photo_filedbi%5CA4%5CF0%5C43%5CA4F043%5Cviewable%5CA4F043_13218FF2D207_6.jpg

http://photothru.com/photo_filedbi%5CA4%5CF0%5C43%5CA4F043%5Cviewable%5CA4F043_13218FF2D207_7.jpg

etsnet
04-16-2006, 12:06 AM
It's ok. It might grow on me. I hated the dodge magnum and the xB when they came out but I think the magnum now rocks and the xB is a great blank canvas.

avus
04-16-2006, 03:41 AM
I like the fact that alot of people arent to fond of the radical design of the fuse... Different is what tuners go for...
i disagree -- it is not a radical design. just another interpretaton of the same styling exercise displayed by other auto manufacturers (nissan, vw, etc.)

here's more proof...
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/04/42-Scion-FUSE.jpg
http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/3060000000050018.JPG

camo_box
04-16-2006, 08:12 AM
i would totally buy one

scion_jon
04-16-2006, 08:43 AM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/scion_jon/concept3.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/scion_jon/concept4.jpg

Nick06tC
04-16-2006, 12:19 PM
I like the fact that alot of people arent to fond of the radical design of the fuse... Different is what tuners go for...
i disagree -- it is not a radical design. just another interpretaton of the same styling exercise displayed by other auto manufacturers (nissan, vw, etc.)

here's more proof...
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/04/42-Scion-FUSE.jpg
http://www.bilrevyen.no/nyheter/pressemeldinger/images/VW_EcoRacer_04_M448.jpg

But who wil be the first to put it on American streets in that type of form?

wHiTe_LiOn
04-16-2006, 04:49 PM
I think its pretty dope overall. The power plant is a bit disappointing, but maybe the most bang for the buck i suppose. The interior is too excentric for me, though. My design philosophy is less is more. All those monitors and the flippidy-doo-dah tail gate action, spell over kill on utility. we'll see tho! :o

TeamMightyMiniz
04-16-2006, 06:23 PM
This Fuse thing is the opposite of a SPORT COUPE in every way.

I'm at a loss of words. Waste of time, space, money and effort.

FLINT
04-16-2006, 07:14 PM
the fuse is more along the lines of having the shape like the dodge magnum and crysler 300 imo

TeamMightyMiniz
04-17-2006, 03:17 AM
So it's a Chrysler Inspired Concept.
300/Magnum/Crossfire monstrosity.

Everytime I see it I throw up a little bit in my mouth.

FLINT
04-17-2006, 04:53 AM
So it's a Chrysler Inspired Concept.
300/Magnum/Crossfire monstrosity.

Everytime I see it I throw up a little bit in my mouth.if u blow chunks too much then u might die, lol. so STOP LOOKIN @ IT.

hotbox05
04-17-2006, 05:55 AM
This Fuse thing is the opposite of a SPORT COUPE in every way.

I'm at a loss of words. Waste of time, space, money and effort.

explain how ? and what makes yer tc such a hot sports coupe ?


oh and how is it dodge/chrysler inspired? so any hatchback made from now on for the rest of time will be dodge/chrylser inspired too then...............

Sciond
04-17-2006, 12:59 PM
I'd rock it

xBster
04-18-2006, 11:54 AM
I like it and I don't, But it IS a concept don't forget,. There is a lot of criticism about the features and looks showing up here, but there will be a lot of changes before production, especially if it is a Scion-sub 20k car.
The styling is definitely going to have to grow on me too, but I never thought I would have an xB in my garage either at first glance.

gwtc
04-18-2006, 09:51 PM
Not sure if its been posted, but here's a short vid on it:
Just click on the Scion Fuse Concept pic on the bottom right hand corner, there's also a vid on the RS 2.0 as well, enjoy:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4661-10863_7-6508332.html?tag=vid&autoplay=true

TheScionicMan
04-19-2006, 12:31 AM
So if it comes with Forced Induction, will that be called a Blown Fuse?


All the kids driving their mother's '92 whatsits, stock speakers straining under maximum volume, riding as low as possible in the seat, cap turned to 60 degrees for maximum attitude and edginess. Those are the kids that say 'hey nice car, man, what is dat' and rev me at stoplights.

WRONG! Those are the kids that say "I'd never own a Scion because of the way they are marketed" They and you are very concerned with how others perceive you and your car. The people that like it are ones that are looking at the car and not worrying about the social implications of driving car that just so happens to be connected with a marketing theme...

killerxromances
04-19-2006, 06:10 AM
Okay, i'm serious sick of all you tC guys thinking the tC is some sports compact eater and can take on anything.

"This concept is pos, my tC will eat it and looks much better." Well one, looks is just an opinion. What looks good to you, doesn't look good to someone else. Secondly, its a concept. There are no known specs so stfu about my tC is faster, better, stronger.

The 2.4 liters, the 160hp, and the fact the tC is the pricey Scion is going into your head and melting what knowledge you would have had. tC is heavy, under powered per liter, and don't bring up all this torque. You have as much torque as a 1.8 or 2.0l made from Honda, Nissan, Mazda, depending on what motor you want to talk about.

Oh and heres another thing for you to complain about, aside from i'm some box owner raining on your parade. Quote from hotbox, "and with tc drivers totalling their cars left and right the last thing they need is rwd." End of story. You kids drive your tC like its a ferrari yet you complain about how Honda's always rev at you. All i see now is tC vs threads and how you "smoked" some car that obviously can out perform you in every way. Rwd? Please, half of you guys can't handle Fwd, and i'm a fan of fwd and awd more so than rwd. You don't need AWD either, you will figure out away to wrap yourself around a tree.

FLINT
04-21-2006, 04:27 AM
Okay, i'm serious sick of all you tC guys thinking the tC is some sports compact eater and can take on anything.

"This concept is pos, my tC will eat it and looks much better." Well one, looks is just an opinion. What looks good to you, doesn't look good to someone else. Secondly, its a concept. There are no known specs so stfu about my tC is faster, better, stronger.

The 2.4 liters, the 160hp, and the fact the tC is the pricey Scion is going into your head and melting what knowledge you would have had. tC is heavy, under powered per liter, and don't bring up all this torque. You have as much torque as a 1.8 or 2.0l made from Honda, Nissan, Mazda, depending on what motor you want to talk about.

Oh and heres another thing for you to complain about, aside from i'm some box owner raining on your parade. Quote from hotbox, "and with tc drivers totalling their cars left and right the last thing they need is rwd." End of story. You kids drive your tC like its a ferrari yet you complain about how Honda's always rev at you. All i see now is tC vs threads and how you "smoked" some car that obviously can out perform you in every way. Rwd? Please, half of you guys can't handle Fwd, and i'm a fan of fwd and awd more so than rwd. You don't need AWD either, you will figure out away to wrap yourself around a tree. :clap: :silly: wow killa. i actually dont have anything to say about this 1. so i repeated it 4 u

TeamMightyMiniz
05-04-2006, 08:20 AM
YO, killerxromances , Old man, Man of True and Ultimate Motoring Wisdom... He who points fervidly at the kids as he speaks, knowing all TC owners are younger and far less superior than He, chastizing those who He deems unable to handle RWD, FWD AND AWD, a Man amongst boys, The Superior Controller of Vehicular Manipulation, the Rock, Toughguy, Megaman, Hero.... ease up.
We all adore that you care sooo much as to release such education upon the masses here, keep up the good work old man

From all of us premmie, immature, uneducated, unqualified, ignorant, moronic, naive, unskilled, peons to the Great and all powerful :bow: killerxromances , Tc current and former owners/drivers, who've owned or have driven, who've considered or dreampt of owning or driving them. We Salute you.
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Naj-Zero
05-20-2006, 10:11 PM
To Be Honest

I love it.

I hope it comes out exactly how they have the concept. And if not base, then have all the options.

The futuristic classy design is exactly what makes it unique. Great for having a night on the town or backing into a parking lot/beach, folding out the trunk seats and watching the sunset. This paired with a T2B is a party on wheels, no matter where you are or how many people are there. Not only is it a great car for young people but it also has a serious business attitude to go with it. Great for inturns or young business oriented people. To be, it screams "balla"

I think this will be a hit.

Macster
06-15-2006, 08:00 AM
It's a modern day Knight Rider...

http://www.fresh99.com/images/carinterior/knight-rider-interior.jpg

In all seriousness.. if I had a couple million laying around, i'd probably get it :P

Keitaro
06-16-2006, 01:58 AM
Urban racer vids (takes awhile to load):
1/4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhXaa-zF0M0
2/4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTKbu3LFlY
3/4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGd3yZwDV74
4/4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEqtPsrwgG0
You can hear a brief engine/exhuast noise in vid 4/4 after 1:05min.

Somnambulated
06-21-2006, 07:13 PM
I saw the Fuze in a magazine, and looked it up on Scion Life.

I'm sorry, but this concept is horribly, horribly ugly.

I guess that's common with concepts, before they're refined, but DAYUM. This one fell of the Ugly transport truck, landed on Ugly highway, got hit by an Ugly bus, rolled to the median and stopped Ugly traffic.

Somnambulated
06-21-2006, 07:32 PM
This Fuse thing is the opposite of a SPORT COUPE in every way.

I'm at a loss of words. Waste of time, space, money and effort.

explain how ? and what makes yer tc such a hot sports coupe ?


oh and how is it dodge/chrysler inspired? so any hatchback made from now on for the rest of time will be dodge/chrylser inspired too then...............

I'm sorry, are you seeing the same pictures the rest of us are? That looks like a Dodge/Chrysler body. And yes, any hatchback that looks like it came from Dodge or Chrysler will be from now on, for the rest of time, Dodge/Chrysler inspired.