Ok.......so they had this monstrosity in the SCION BOOTH at SEMA.......yeesh.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/476861/Img_0264(mod).JPG



AND.......this little gem.........that looked like it was painted by a pre-schooler with black primer.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/476861/Img_0265(mod).JPG


KiL

Hey man, dont be hating. LJ's car took a lot of hard work. I respect that he has put forth the effort to make a car different and unique. If his car was so ugly, why is his car there and your car not there? SEMA is where the best of the best go.

So were there any xA's actually worth looking at then?

As for the LJ xA....to each his own, to it's not too bad but I definitely wouldn't put CF stepsides on my xA!!!! It's bad enough that I keep stepping on the factory sideskirt on my xB. One wrong step with my fatass and that would be history.

To each his own..........if anyone likes that body kit...........good for them.

Some guys dig fat chicks..........don't mean I'm gonna stop makin fun of them.

I'm not "hatin".........but the cars chosen to represent Scion should reflect quality. Personally......I don't think that kit reflects quality........and that primer job sure as hell doesn't. If he put a lot of time into it.......I'm sorry..........time wasted in my opinion. But like I said.......to each his own.........my opinion is only relevant to me. You can wipe your a$$ with it if you feel so inclined.

And btw.......that was a pretty weak response. Why isn't my car there? Because my car is a beige 1987 Volvo 240.....not a show car..........I think its cool.........most peole don't. But I don't go off accusing people of "hatin".......particularly because I could never seriously say that word without subsequently punching myself in the face. And if you've ever been to SEMA.......you'd realize not every car there looks good.

KiL

Scionic.......I probably only saw about 1% of that entire show.........so I couldn't really tell you. I did see one black xA that looked pretty alright. Didn't take a picture though.

KiL

KiL,

I respect your opinion. To each his own. Not everyone will like that kit I agree. But you dont have to call it "pug ugly" :)


V

HAVE to? Of course not. :wink:

KiL

What is so bad about it??? I think it looks OK. Not my dream setup but I don't find it unattractive. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are tons of things done to cars that I think are ugly and stupid , but that is my opinion. Personally I prefer the looks of the xA over the xB but most here disagree. I like the B but it looks more minivanish to me than I would want. Now the A has the space but it has a very sporty look , almost muscular with the fenderflares. I would like to see more of it , one picture with you sticking your finger down your throat isn't enough to really judge by.

did you get pics of the blue xA? did ya like that one? i love it, but i didnt see it @ SEMA. :wink:

i thnk you should put up some pics of the badass cars too!

l. garcia 8)

That wasn't me with my finger down my throat Risen. :wink:

I didn't get many pictures cause I actually wasn't there long......Arin probably got more.........I imagine he'll post them.

And I apologize to anyone who can't see the pictures right now......I'm using a crappy image hosting site that only allows 5 mb of bandwidth per day.............and I guess the traffic has exceeded that.

KiL

I just think car that chosen to represent Scion should be more "ORIGIANL"
It sure serve the purpose of getting people's attention
But to me, I think it bring out more negative image than positive

i see red x's

Yeah.....sorry.......like I said.......bandwidth for the day has been exceeded.

I just used some pathetic free image hosting site.

KiL

BTW Kil who is that guy in the pic if it isn't you?

Reactions from Overboost.com when they saw the yellow xB - "The car is shown in the current issue of Import Tuner looking more like a fiberglass and Bondo experiment gone terribly awry than the SEMA car it has evolved into"

i think the yellow one looks good for the time he had i would not put the kit on my car but i give him pros for not just taking and doing something

I don't appreciate that pug-fugly crack. I've got 5 beautiful black pugs and none of them are fugly. Betta check yo-self foo

I give my sincerest apologies to all pugs I may have offended......it won't happen again. :wink:

And that's Arin in the photos.

KiL

Those pics don't seem to be working, but here it is:

http://www.carandmodel.com/albums/sema2k3-day1cars/aab.sized.jpg

Yeah.....sorry.......like I said.......bandwidth for the day has been exceeded.

I just used some pathetic free image hosting site.

KiL

you should try imagestation.com, might work better for a freebie.....

Those pics don't seem to be working, but here it is:

http://www.carandmodel.com/albums/sema2k3-day1cars/aab.sized.jpg

your xB is looking Nice Infiz!!

try to make it next week to the Meet:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2973

hope to see you there.... 8)

Hey man, dont be hating. LJ's car took a lot of hard work. I respect that he has put forth the effort to make a car different and unique. If his car was so ugly, why is his car there and your car not there? SEMA is where the best of the best go.

It actually was quite a downer to read the article in Import Tuner where he even straight up said that all they did was take a kit that was made for a Civic (which, of course, was just a knock off of a JDM kit made for two different cars...different front and rear) and made it fit the xA. That's like just straight up admitting that you don't even care about the design of the kit and how well it flows and works with the car it's going on. I'm a proponent of body kits on Scions, but I don't think I can advocate the use of kits that were just...."made to fit."

i know it took a lot of work but im not sold .... LJ UR CIVIC IS BETTER !!! STICK WITH HONDA

Ok.......so they had this monstrosity in the SCION BOOTH at SEMA.......yeesh.

KiL

I love that bodykit.

I love it so much that I have personally spoken with L.J. Garcia a couple of times about it. I also invited him to come to our Team Scion West meets. He has accepted and he will be bringing the xA with him to show it to us in 2 weeks.

We have 6 xA's in Team Scion West, and quite a few of us are very interested in the bodykit. We are very excited to have this opportunity and we are honored to have someone like L.J. Garcia take time out of his EXTREMELY busy schedule to stop by and visit with us.

LJ, the kit looks great and i remember when your Civic was taking first at the shows. In fact, I covered some of those events for Street Legal Import magazine. Keep up the good work man. :D

BTW Kil who is that guy in the pic if it isn't you?

Reactions from Overboost.com when they saw the yellow xB - "The car is shown in the current issue of Import Tuner looking more like a fiberglass and Bondo experiment gone terribly awry than the SEMA car it has evolved into"

Isn't fiberglass, bondo, and primer the finish of choice for most real import modders? :)

even if you dont care for the body kit, its pretty chicken ____ to talk down on it on the internet. You know you would never put your finger down your throat in front of the owner.

I personally think the kit on the yellow xA looks alright..though not perfect. If the car had wider wheels and larger diameter...it might have looked alot better...the wide body kit over extends too much...but overall...not bad kit....

u gotta give props to people who worked hard on their car whether it's appealing or not...

If someone is willing to spend alot of money and time into modding his ride...u have to respect that ...not love it..but atleast respect.

and by the way...pugs are ugly that it's cute..haha.

well...that's my 2 cents.

even if you dont care for the body kit, its pretty chicken ____ to talk down on it on the internet. You know you would never put your finger down your throat in front of the owner.

Do all conversations that contain negative opinions of a particular car now have to be cleared with the owner first? I doubt that you can hurt the feelings of someone assertive enough to display their car in this way.

The purpose of SEMA is to sell accessories. Any vehicle that catches the eye of the passerby is good SEMA material. SEMA cars aren't the "best of the best", they are the cars that can be completed in time with all the new gee-gaws installed.

In a room full of great paint jobs, a car in primer probably got more than its share of attention! That is the goal!

George

I really appreciate the guy for attempting a widebody kit on a xA. Even I'm not feelin' the kit and the choice of wheel spec, I'd still give the guy a thumbs up for the obvious hard work put into this project.

even if you dont care for the body kit, its pretty chicken ____ to talk down on it on the internet. You know you would never put your finger down your throat in front of the owner.

I totally agree with Randode.

KingLou: Why don't you come out to LA in 2 weeks and tell L.J. to his face how much you hate it. Be sure to bring those pictures of you at SEMA.

I hear a challenge coming on. Good thing I'm a body gaurd for sale. KingLou, Chesirecat, anyone who accepts this challenge of bringing it to garcias face, let me know so I can get paid. It'll cost you but I won't let you down, I'll just be back up incase anything fun starts. And in the event that something fun does start and I'm not getting paid, you all better watch out cuz I'll be the first one diving in to the showdown.

even if you dont care for the body kit, its pretty chicken ____ to talk down on it on the internet. You know you would never put your finger down your throat in front of the owner.

I totally agree with Randode.

KingLou: Why don't you come to the TSW meeting in 2 weeks and tell L.J. to his face how much you hate it. Be sure sure to bring those pictures of you at SEMA.

Hmm.....let's see......cause I don't even own a Scion yet................and going to a meet specifically to tell someone I don't like their car is even more lame than doing it on the internet. It took me 3 seconds to post a picture and a topic on a message board. Going out of my way to a damn meet would suggest I have some sort of deeply rooted moral objection to his body kit, and I have way too much time on my hands. I never said his kit was so ugly I wanted to kick his ___.........I just said it was ugly. Don't like it? Get over it! And don't even try to talk to me about respecting the work that someone put into their car. I respect anyone and everyone when it comes to devoting time, energy, and money to their car........doesn't mean I have to like the results. You wouldn't know the first thing about lack of respect until you own a 1987 240 Volvo that you put hours of time into, and tons of money into..........and nobody but YOU thinks its not ___. I'm used to flak.....and I don't give a damn..........cause as long as I appreciate my car and the work I put into it.......that's all that matters. And everyone here better get damn used to people not liking their cars...........because while we all appreciate and respect Scions............guess what...........there's probably gonna be just as many people if not more that think they look like crap.

Get over yourselves guys.........and lighten the hell up. The thing that needs to be respected here is different OPINIONS. I don't know LJ.......he's probably a great guy. I don't have a damn thing against him. Who knows.......we could be best friends. I still won't like that body kit.

And if anyone sees my beige Volvo on 17" TSW blades parked around vegas (I promise its the only one)...........you're more than welcome to take some unflattering pictures next to it. I promise I won't cry........in fact.........I'll probably laugh........because I don't wear my feelings on my sleeve like some of you. However......if you touch my car..........well.......I won't go into details..........just don't touch my damn car.

KiL

no one said anything about kicking anyones ___. But why would you come on here just to flame?

I didn't come here to flame. To flame would be to personally attack someone.............I was expressing my discontent with a couple of cars.

KiL

i seen where people have said they read the article about it in import tuner. l.j. did state that he doesn't care if people don't like it since everyone has opinions. to come down on someone that has the right to express an opinion is stupid.

Wait till you see my 91 metallic silver ford taurus gl with SHO engine swap, 18" racing hart c5 wheels, 2" cut springs, and white/blue vinyl interior. Then you will know what getting flamed truly is. If only I took steroids, then we'd really have some fun.

Yeah....ok showpaojoe...........your car will take me in a drag race............but I bet I'll win the T-bone and high-speed rollover competitions. :P

KiL

I dunno what t- bone comp is. Explain please.

When people go crazy with a ride, they go by what they like of course. It doesn't matter how other people feel. You wouldn't believe the kind of crap people say when they see my taurus parked especially in my bro's high school. They look at the interior and all hell breaks loose. But nobody would ever say ____ to my face because people just don't do that. I don't care what they say behind my back as long as it is not about me personally. And if it is about, then I'll totally go off and they won't be able to speak anymore. j/k But a cars just a car.

I don't care if people bag on this xA either because I was wanna the first to say I don't like the wide body, but the front and rear are nice which is y he sells the kit without the wide flares also. Let everyone talk their mind if they wanna. If one post says crap, no matter how bad, don't get mad, just post what you like about it. I think we all know the kind of work that goes into this but can't we all just get along. We've all put in some hours and to some, Garcia went to far. Kids who are still into ricing will love the xA and then we'll have more people joining the group. You do remember that the majority of scion owners have xB's. Maybe this is just a wake up call for the youths of tomorrow. Then we'll be seeing more of these types and we'll have even more fun topics to bag on/talk about.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but to go online to a Scion forum, post a picture of you standing in front a Scion making gagging motions, and say how ugly it is and how much you hate it....

What did you expect to happen?

Could you link that pick with the gagging sign, I must've missed it. I didn't that shiz was goin on.

Going to a meet specifically to tell someone I don't like their car is even more lame than doing it on the internet.

And don't even try to talk to me about respecting the work that someone put into their car. I respect anyone and everyone when it comes to devoting time, energy, and money to their car........

KiL

I find it interesting you would admit that coming online and saying you hate the car is lame. :?

I find it even more interesting that you respect people that have devoted time. money and energy into a car. Yet what you did with the entire topic and the picture is disrespectful.......:?

It just doesn't make any sense.......

First off...for those of you that didnt read this thread in whole, the picture of the guy gagging is ME.....NOT KingLou.

KiL took the picture of ME...I requested that he take the picture. WHY? Because I dont care for the body kit...and I thought that a picture of me sticking my finger down my throat would be a funny and light hearted way to express my opinion about that body kit.

EXPRESS MY OPINION ABOUT THAT BODY KIT
EXPRESS MY OPINION
MY OPINION
OPINION

Get it. MY opinion. Im allowed to have one. You guys arent the only ones allowed to have one. And who's rule was it that only positive opinions are allowed to be voiced. I dont like the kit...I took a picture expressing my feelings...Im sure Garcia is an awesome dude. God is a great dude too....but i gag on alot of stuff that he made....like brussel sprouts. Doesnt mean I have any less respect for either of them.

your ride is an expression of yourself.

opinions are opinions. either way theres a lot of money in that car.

I finally saw the pic. I guess that means from now on you guys gotta be mad at arinvolvo, j/k. In all honesty, its not that bad of a pic. Now, if he was ____in on it, I'd c the problem.