Name at least one thing you are affraid of about this car (the car itself or the conditions it may encounter). i'll start....



- Hail storm (im sure the put a coating on the glass do it doesnt shatter but it'll still chip and crack :shock:

I'm afraid that the front grill will look as generic in real life as it does in photos. Here is my worst case scenario, badge removed for emphasis :P

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5964/tcfront.JPG

Something about the top grill just doesn't look right. The Volvo S40 or any Audi look similar, but they're done correctly.

I love the view from every other angle, though.

I am afraid the AC will suck like it does in the xa...here in south florida you need air!

The more I look at it, it looks like a Subaru Legacy (poor man's Porsche :D )
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/446000-446999/446155_35_full.jpg

The cars that reviewers are comparing the looks of the tC are higher more expensive vehicles. Ya'll should take it as a complement.

yea it looks like a lot of different cars I think thats a reason why some people like it... the only thing I'm afraid of is that there won't be many performance parts for awhile to use on it...or any mods period minus the ones from scion like the exhaust and strut bar.

I'm afraid that the gas mileage will be even more dreadful than the numbers suggest.

-Not enough head room
-Reliability problems (not up to Toyota Standards)
-Storage room
-Blind spot
-Stock Stereo not good enough (might need to replace sooner then expected)

I think those problems will be ok, but I am most worried about:
-Not being able to get one soon enough :D

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'fraid we won't have enough cars.

I agree with poster on the stock stereo. I am hoping it is good enough and not spend extra $ on amp/speakers. But then I have a Corrolla now which is great but nothing spectacular like the tC.

This car might be too good to be true. All the reviews have been A-/B+ and there are so many standard features. This is way I am picking the tC over the Mazda 3.

Kevin

I was considering purchasing the Mazda3 as well, but there are lots of issues popping up. Here are the ones that concern me the most:

-Weak A/C unit
-Excessive rear break dust/grooves forming in break rotors
-Sunroof water leak
-Squealing breaks

- That panoramic moonroof...all that glass worry me if it gets cracked and needs to be replaced. Also, although we have heard countless times that it is made with the most advance gaskets & sealing, I can't help but worry about leaking...

- Stereo sound quality...I don't care much about how loud it is but I do care about how good it sounds...

- Interior fabric quality: I wanted to get leather but that is not an option so I hope that the quality of the seats are better then average.

- Not enough head room.
- AC (live in fla).
- Everyone and there mom will have it.

I am afraid the AC will suck like it does in the xa...here in south florida you need air!

Cry me a river! :P

- Phoenix, Arizona (The TRUE Sunshine State)

:shock: I'm afraid there won't be enough to go around!

im affriad i spend way too much time at scion life reading threads with people whining and smuttering about the same things over and over....if the car sucks...it sucks...if it rocks...it rocks.....if you put a deposit down and it sucks....then youre a loser......if you didnt and it rocks....and they sell out....then youll have to wait...its not a big deal....

That my rearview mirror will be clipped off by some driver. It has happened already more than once. With the turn signal in the mirror, it may be more expensive to replace.

im affriad i spend way too much time at scion life reading threads with people whining and smuttering about the same things over and over....if the car sucks...it sucks...if it rocks...it rocks.....if you put a deposit down and it sucks....then youre a loser......if you didnt and it rocks....and they sell out....then youll have to wait...its not a big deal....

Jeez, who killed your dog? :)

I think this thread was just about voicing legitimate reservations about the car...I can't spot one person whining here. I am starting to notice that some here can't tell the difference between someone being honest and someone just _____ing...

head room, head room, head room.

I've got a few prospective buyers on my car, but I can't give them any guarantees until I can sit in a tC... i need to sit in one NOW.

if the auto tranny can hold the HP & torque that my turbocharger will be putting out

I'm afraid that the Black Cherry Pearl won't look as good in person as it does in pictures. I like it, but others in my dealership remember when it was a Lexus color, and they have less-than-fond memories.

LATER

im afraid there are gonna be more than 2 tCs at my school

* I love the roof, but I keep thinking my head is going to be red hot after a drive, no matter how much you tint it.

* Not enough released, month-long back orders for tC's

OR

* Everyone will have one :(

Something Cooler coming out as soon as i get the tC.

no its fine the benz 230 has the same roof.and its fine is south floridaquote="tCeeder"]* I love the roof, but I keep thinking my head is going to be red hot after a drive, no matter how much you tint it.

* Not enough released, month-long back orders for tC's

OR

* Everyone will have one :([/quote]

I hope so. I'm not too concerned with the AC. I live in Florida but I never seem to drive with the windows up/AC on. I just love the windows down with the AC on =p

I'm afraid it will be as cramped as the Celica.

Jeez, who killed your dog? :)

I think this thread was just about voicing legitimate reservations about the car...I can't spot one person whining here. I am starting to notice that some here can't tell the difference between someone being honest and someone just _____ing...

LOL

High intensity.

* I love the roof, but I keep thinking my head is going to be red hot after a drive, no matter how much you tint it.

Pull the shades closed! 8)

I'm afraid it will be as cramped as the Celica.

the tC will be alot more roomier than the Celica because the tC is much bigger than the Celica.

head room , shmead shroom...I'm worried I'll have trouble reaching the damn clutch with out sitting on the stearing wheel!

skeered that....
*the dealer might run out ,and i have to get a corolla
*glass roof, freeway over pass , yikes! neighbors playing with there freakin' basketball might hit my roof.
*TRD SC being to overpirced

other than that , Im kewl with it , putting a new stereo (custom subwoofers boxes for the nice space in the back), aftermarket performace parts , fenderflares , body kit , scope hood, wheels, the works !

I'm afraid it'll handle like a pig since it's so heavy.

Headroom also.

And, there are definitely going to be some retarded people driving it since it's such a good deal.

I'm afraid I won't be able to sell my current car before my tC comes in. Anybody looking to by a 99 Audi A4????? Didn't think so.

If you are, you can go to www.cardomain.com/id/raceuintherain

im afraid there wont be a 5spd tC available in late november....

I'm also worried that some big SUV will t bone me cause the dumb driver was chating on the cell phone & couldn't see my lil coupe

I'm also worried that some big SUV will t bone me cause the dumb driver was chating on the cell phone & couldn't see my lil coupe

Good point!

Kevin

I'm afraid it'll handle like a pig since it's so heavy.

Headroom also.

And, there are definitely going to be some retarded people driving it since it's such a good deal.

there is a lot of head room. The car handles GREAT!!!!!!
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I fear that I won't like the seat material. I like the soft velour in my Legacy, not rough 'sport' fabric, like in a WRX. Maybe if I sat in it for awhile, I'd like it? Either way, awesome car!

I'm thinking that everyone will eventually have one. Like the Honda civic. Boring after a while. My sunroof got cracked when I lived in Illinois. It was about 1/3 the size of the tC. It was very expensive to fix. I can't even imagine how much it will cost on the tC

I'm thinking that everyone will eventually have one. Like the Honda civic. Boring after a while. My sunroof got cracked when I lived in Illinois. It was about 1/3 the size of the tC. It was very expensive to fix. I can't even imagine how much it will cost on the tC

I have to comment on this because everyone keeps mentioning the Civic thing:

People, the Civic has been around for decades and has been a popular tuner for almost two decades...I don't think you are going to have to worry about the tC hitting critical mass with the mainstream crowd for a very long time. Even if it is massively popular in the import crowd, I doubt sales for the tC will top 100,000.

That the car will come with those god-awful, dangerous crappy Potenza RE92 tires -- requiring an immediate change at an additional expense expense of $500 - $800)
(Or more if you're a performance fanatic). Less of a 'bargain' then... :(

I don't think the Potenza tires on the tC are the best but definitely not "god-awful". I would not expect Scion to put on $800-$1000 tires since this car is supposed to be affordable NOT luxury. LOL

Kevin

The 92's are about the lowest rated tire in their class, and for valid reasons. It is not my personal opinion. $800 - $1000 is not necessary for a far better and safer performance a/s (or summer) tire.

I'm thinking that everyone will eventually have one. Like the Honda civic. Boring after a while. My sunroof got cracked when I lived in Illinois. It was about 1/3 the size of the tC. It was very expensive to fix. I can't even imagine how much it will cost on the tC

I have to comment on this because everyone keeps mentioning the Civic thing:

People, the Civic has been around for decades and has been a popular tuner for almost two decades...I don't think you are going to have to worry about the tC hitting critical mass with the mainstream crowd for a very long time. Even if it is massively popular in the import crowd, I doubt sales for the tC will top 100,000.

so true. everybody keeps say "oh the tC is gonna become the next civic" when the civic has been out far longer than the tC. its not like everybody with a car is gonna be like "ohh shoot the tC is out, everybody lets go get it"

That the car will come with those god-awful, dangerous crappy Potenza RE92 tires -- requiring an immediate change at an additional expense expense of $500 - $800)
(Or more if you're a performance fanatic). Less of a 'bargain' then... :(
RE92s are ____. Every manufacturer uses them. Bridgestone must sell them super cheap.

I'm thinking that everyone will eventually have one. Like the Honda civic. Boring after a while. My sunroof got cracked when I lived in Illinois. It was about 1/3 the size of the tC. It was very expensive to fix. I can't even imagine how much it will cost on the tC

I have to comment on this because everyone keeps mentioning the Civic thing:

People, the Civic has been around for decades and has been a popular tuner for almost two decades...I don't think you are going to have to worry about the tC hitting critical mass with the mainstream crowd for a very long time. Even if it is massively popular in the import crowd, I doubt sales for the tC will top 100,000.

That's the problem. I'm not worried about the people tho keep a stock tC, I'm worried about all the 'tards who make it look silly with huge aluminum wings, hundreds of lbs. of fiberglass, and stickers.

I'm thinking that everyone will eventually have one. Like the Honda civic. Boring after a while. My sunroof got cracked when I lived in Illinois. It was about 1/3 the size of the tC. It was very expensive to fix. I can't even imagine how much it will cost on the tC

I have to comment on this because everyone keeps mentioning the Civic thing:

People, the Civic has been around for decades and has been a popular tuner for almost two decades...I don't think you are going to have to worry about the tC hitting critical mass with the mainstream crowd for a very long time. Even if it is massively popular in the import crowd, I doubt sales for the tC will top 100,000.

That's the problem. I'm not worried about the people tho keep a stock tC, I'm worried about all the 'tards who make it look silly with huge aluminum wings, hundreds of lbs. of fiberglass, and stickers.

i agree.... dont need rear downforce simply cuz its fwd and more weight = less mpg.
stickers.... im most likely gonna de-badge my car as soon as i get it. if someone wants to pay me to have stickers on the car then okay but otherwise.... no. im not gonna buy a sticker advertising for a company that isnt paying my bills.

i agree.... dont need rear downforce simply cuz its fwd and more weight = less mpg.
stickers.... im most likely gonna de-badge my car as soon as i get it. if someone wants to pay me to have stickers on the car then okay but otherwise.... no. im not gonna buy a sticker advertising for a company that isnt paying my bills.

i 2nd that. if you're gonna put a spoiler, keep it clean and not over sized, imo. i also plan on debadging my tC when i get it. i dont want people trying to do the debadging for me with a screwdriver. stickers, probably one or two small ones on my rear quarter window supporting ScionLife. and thats all the stickers i'll do.

I fear that the interior (namely the seats) will look as terrible in real life as the pictures suggest. Could the all-black seats look any more plain? The back seat looks embarassing in the photos! Compare the pics of the tC seats to photos of the Ion Red Line (http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/a_img_redlineion7.jpg) or the RX-8 (http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/MazdaRX8/Images/Interior.jpg) and suddenly the tC (http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/tc/tc08.jpg) looks very unfinished and cheap.

I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)

-matt

1.) Getting everything planned then getting SCREWED on financing.
2.) I'm going to have to learn how to drive a stick.
3.) Hard to get into back seat.
4.) Small driver's seat with that console in the middle (I'm a pretty big guy).

I'm afraid it'll be too small and too slow.

I fear that the interior (namely the seats) will look as terrible in real life as the pictures suggest. Could the all-black seats look any more plain? The back seat looks embarassing in the photos! Compare the pics of the tC seats to photos of the Ion Red Line (http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/a_img_redlineion7.jpg) or the RX-8 (http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/MazdaRX8/Images/Interior.jpg) and suddenly the tC (http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/tc/tc08.jpg) looks very unfinished and cheap.

I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)

-matt

you're comparing seats from a $16k car to from seats a $20k+ car

I fear that the interior (namely the seats) will look as terrible in real life as the pictures suggest. Could the all-black seats look any more plain? The back seat looks embarassing in the photos! Compare the pics of the tC seats to photos of the Ion Red Line (http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/a_img_redlineion7.jpg) or the RX-8 (http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/MazdaRX8/Images/Interior.jpg) and suddenly the tC (http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/tc/tc08.jpg) looks very unfinished and cheap.

I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)

-matt

you're comparing seats from a $16k car to from seats a $20k+ car

Yep. I'm talking SEATS. Not luxury items or amenities or engine size. Seats. The exact type of item that a $16,000 car can do just as well as a $26,000 car.

And the Ion Red Line and the Scion tC are essentially the exact same price considering the tC needs the supercharger to match the Red Line's horsepower. So those both become $20,000 cars at that point, and the seats of one look great while the other looks like they were modeled after the 1992 Dodge Shadow.

Guess I should see them for myself in person before I criticize much more....

-matt

While your on the topic of seats, does anyone know if the seat bottom on the tC is the same length as the xA & xB? I hope it's a bit longer.

Yep. I'm talking SEATS. Not luxury items or amenities or engine size. Seats. The exact type of item that a $16,000 car can do just as well as a $26,000 car.


Sure they could make the seats just as nice as a $26k car in a $16k car. They would just have to cut cost some where else.

Car makers have to weigh what they want to go all out on, and what they want to cut costs on. I would much rather have seats that are not quite as pretty as the ones in $26 cars then have a underpowerd engine, or sucky handling or something.

Car makers have to weigh what they want to go all out on, and what they want to cut costs on.

True, but that doesn't explain why the seats look worse than the seats on a corolla. I hope it's just the pictures.

[/quote] I would much rather have seats that are not quite as pretty as the ones in
$26 cars then have a underpowerd engine, or sucky handling or something.[/quote]

i agree.

I'm afraid I won't be able to afford the tC. My job at Sykes, im getting laid off on August 7th due to our jobs moving overseas. Gotta find a steady job first.

True, but that doesn't explain why the seats look worse than the seats on a corolla. I hope it's just the pictures.

Sure it does, Toyota thinks Corolla buyers would rather have pretty seats than a bigger engine. :D

I fear that the interior (namely the seats) will look as terrible in real life as the pictures suggest. Could the all-black seats look any more plain? The back seat looks embarassing in the photos! Compare the pics of the tC seats to photos of the Ion Red Line (http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/a_img_redlineion7.jpg) or the RX-8 (http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/MazdaRX8/Images/Interior.jpg) and suddenly the tC (http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/tc/tc08.jpg) looks very unfinished and cheap.

I also fear the steering wheel will be too ugly, too. (I've seen one pic of a two-tone steering wheel in the tC ... not sure if that will actually be an option or not, though.)

-matt

you're comparing seats from a $16k car to from seats a $20k+ car

Yep. I'm talking SEATS. Not luxury items or amenities or engine size. Seats. The exact type of item that a $16,000 car can do just as well as a $26,000 car.

And the Ion Red Line and the Scion tC are essentially the exact same price considering the tC needs the supercharger to match the Red Line's horsepower. So those both become $20,000 cars at that point, and the seats of one look great while the other looks like they were modeled after the 1992 Dodge Shadow.

Guess I should see them for myself in person before I criticize much more....

-matt

Seats ARE luxury items. If they weren't, why wouldn't the seats in the Neon be the same as those in a Maybach or S600.




Adrian