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KingofScion 06-14-2006, 06:07 AM Specs for 2007 xB
This is just speculation.
2.4L engine.
all present features standard
cruise control standard
16300 based price
OldYeller 06-14-2006, 08:49 AM Seen speculation on 1.8L --could sure use the cruise control!!
zinczipper 06-14-2006, 02:26 PM .....there will be no 2007 xB .
backseatchris 06-14-2006, 08:05 PM there will be a 2007 xb...
lonestar 06-14-2006, 08:21 PM there will be a 2007 xb...
nope. :no: the only xB being released will be the RS 4.0 xB. they are stopping production on the xA and xB for the 2007 model year and releasing the new 2008 models in early 2007.
KingofScion 06-14-2006, 08:33 PM corolla chasis?
evilBOXevil 06-14-2006, 10:43 PM Speculate no more, friends. Here it is:
http://driftanddestroy.com/2008xb.jpg
(Actually, from an old post of mine...sorry if its considered spam).
OldYeller 06-14-2006, 10:50 PM Speculate no more, friends. Here it is:
http://driftanddestroy.com/2008xb.jpg
(Actually, from an old post of mine...sorry if its considered spam).
This NOT funny---not funny because it may be true!! BOO!!!!!! :tap: :tap: :tap:
Ethereal_Dragon 06-14-2006, 11:23 PM or perhaps the 2008 Scion xxB
http://z.about.com/d/trucks/1/0/N/2/vanbrien_1.jpg
lonestar 06-15-2006, 12:54 AM It has been confirmed that the new scion models will look like spaceships and have the ability to fly.
Keitaro 06-15-2006, 04:55 AM Estima, Caldina, or Wish or a derivative of the JDM models (for example Euro-Avenis=Scion tC). Or the Toyota Rush...hhmm 4WD.
Tomas 06-15-2006, 06:15 AM Heh. Here's my guess with a 1.5...
http://tijil.org/07SCION02.jpg
http://tijil.org/07SCION01.jpg
:D
Ethereal_Dragon 06-15-2006, 06:19 AM lol.... its the Scion HHR-cruiser.... which APPEARS to be smiling... lol
Tomas 06-15-2006, 06:37 AM But the smile is at least different than the new bB in Japan...
http://tijil.org/07bB01.jpg
:D
bBlover 06-15-2006, 06:43 AM Heh. Here's my guess with a 1.5...
http://tijil.org/07SCION02.jpg
http://tijil.org/07SCION01.jpg
:D isn't that the Daihatsu counter part of the bB that's photoshopped?
RedneckwithanxB 06-15-2006, 07:05 AM 4wd with a 6spd and the 2.4........ shes mine
Rigley 06-15-2006, 07:26 AM I would rather have the T2b or the new scion concept if i trade in my xb.
http://info.detnews.com/pix/autos/concepts/06scionconcept/9.jpg
Macster 06-15-2006, 07:38 AM I'd take the FUSE anyday.. that car is just fuggin' sexy.
lonestar 06-15-2006, 08:03 AM deleted
bBlover 06-15-2006, 08:22 AM ^ that pic is photoshopped jus so u know! And that's not a bB. Its a Daihatsu.
RedneckwithanxB 06-15-2006, 08:23 AM ^ that pic is photoshopped jus so u know! And that's not a bB. Its a Daihatsu.
tomas would never betray us with a photoshop........ or would he?????
Tomas 06-15-2006, 08:36 AM Keep in mind that (1) that isn't the bB, (2) Scion can change their business plan at any time with no requirement to let us know, (3) any number of things can change the 'focus' of new releases.
While everyone keeps saying "longer, lower, wider, more power, bigger engine, more features" that may not be the best move in the current market... I say that with gasoline over $3 and rising.
The "longer, lower, wider, more power, bigger engine, more features" model does not portend an "inexpensive starter car for generation whatever" - which was another another key point Scion was focused on.
Lastly, my post was to poke fun at everyone for wanting a 300HP, 40MPG, 5 passenger, two-door, convertible sport coupe with massive hauling capacity, a kilowatt sound system, and cruise for under $15K... and also for all those who "know" what Scion won't do - or will do.
We will know when they announce it, whatever "it" is.
Relax everyone, and enjoy what you have while you have it.
Heck, lower it, put some bigger rims, some low profiles, skirts and underbody lighting on this thing and it might even make it. :)
http://tijil.org/07SCION03.jpg
:lol:
RedneckwithanxB 06-15-2006, 08:44 AM love the amber rotating light on top of the new xb bro, wonderful
tC_Normo 06-15-2006, 09:05 AM so the xB is going to be a cow? yay! now all the tC's and xA's can drive up to them in the fields and honk their horns! yay for cow tipping!
RedneckwithanxB 06-15-2006, 09:20 AM ^^^^^^ someone saw CARS
evilBOXevil 06-15-2006, 05:40 PM If they run each model for 3 years, then the 2007 should be the same as the xB now. Even though it arrived in some areas in 2003- the model year was 2004. a 2004 thru a 2007 model covers 3 years. As excited as any of us would be to see a new car, I couldn't imagine Scion being in a big hurry to dump a car that sells so well.
Maybe there wont be any changes to it, but that's not a bad thing.
2007 :
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/roadtest/04.scion.xb/04.scion.xb.r34.500.jpg
2008 xb(or whatever two letter thing they'll do):
http://driftanddestroy.com/2008zz.jpg
RTon20s 06-15-2006, 06:47 PM Scion will do what Scion does. Until then, like has been stated, it is all speculation. However, I don't think they will have an official 2007 model if they follow their 3 year model run philosophy. The three years would be 2004 (includes early releases in 2003), 2005 and 2006 (2006.5 included). 2007 would constitute a fourth model year.
As stated numerous times in these forums. Production will end with the 2006.5s late this year. Whatever is left in early 2007 will be shipped over and wait in port to be shipped to dealerships. The all new 2008 model will be introduced in the spring of 2007 and begin selling before the year is up. At least that is the speculation I am leaning toward.
lonestar 06-15-2006, 07:06 PM I think it becomes a little more than pure speculation when you have scion employees from different parts of the country releasing the same info. Yet some people claim "we don't know anything til they tell us." Well I choose to believe someone in the company telling me specific info about the release, engine etc. Is it an official announcement? No, but I'd say its pretty reliable.
and if I'm wrong I'll give everyone who disagrees with me a dollar.
Tomas 06-15-2006, 08:05 PM You can PayPal mine... :lol:
lonestar 06-15-2006, 08:20 PM You can PayPal mine... :lol:
All the info I've read and heard better turn out to be right. I might end up bankrupt if too many people take me up on that offer.
:doh:
tC_Normo 06-16-2006, 12:15 PM ^^^^^^ someone saw CARS
ditto! :D
hotbox05 06-16-2006, 11:43 PM no 2007 model year cars. no on the new bB/coo
Tomas 06-17-2006, 02:07 AM The 'no 2007 model year cars' is something I keep hearing, but I can't imagine any new marque, still trying to establish itself, not constantly having a stream of cars in the pipeline. Telling dealers and customers to essentially wait around 'til next year, we'll be back with something, just doesn't sound right. :)
Seems odd, too, now that current bB production has been moved to Daihatsu's largest plant, freeing up the full Takaoka output to be US model boxes, instead of split half US, half JDM, that they'd just stop making the icon model of the Scion name.
Two possibilities come to mind with freeing up half of Takaoka - increased xB production on the short term, or re-fitting the plant for a new model in the idle section so there won't be an untenable gap in the pipeline.
Right now the only things I keep hearing over and over are "this is the last production year for the xB," and that "it's replacement won't be a US version of the current bB/Coo."
This is the first breakpoint for Scion. The US market surprised them once already - they expected the xA to far outsell the xB and we did just the opposite. Now they have an opportunity to build on the success of the box or to drop the idea entirely and go a totally different direction.
Be interesting to see which way they go - I personally think it will be a development/extension of the current bB, but those claiming to be in the know keep shaking their collective heads 'no.'
(For me, I'm happy I have a box.)
lonestar 06-17-2006, 02:20 AM personally, i don't really care which way they go with it as long as it looks good. More power would be nice but I'll take a nice design and 109hp over something ugly with 160hp.
OldYeller 06-17-2006, 05:10 AM The Scion dealerships are all in Toyota lots, but they do have their own organization to some extent. To have only the tC for most of a year would not seem to support the name too well.
lonestar 06-17-2006, 07:17 AM The Scion dealerships are all in Toyota lots, but they do have their own organization to some extent. To have only the tC for most of a year would not seem to support the name too well.
With the xA and xB they won't simply stop selling at once. From what I understand they will continue selling the current 06 models until they run out. They may up the production to keep the models on the market for awhile. They are also putting out the RS models for both at some point this year.
I own a 03 volkswagen golf and intially I was waiting to buy the new rabbit but decided to wait for the new scion models. At the dealership I bought my car from they don't have hardly any 06 golfs because the release of the rabbit. So I don't think it is that uncommon for car delearships to sell off the remaining models in anticipation for a new release.
Tomas 06-17-2006, 07:29 AM In some parts of the country Scion buyers have been waiting for their cars to arrive from Japan as the normal course of events. Should the factory just 'stop' for re-tooling, there will be a void in the pipeline. There really is no backstock.
Scion is one of those marques blessed for the most part with more buyers than available cars. :)
hotbox05 06-17-2006, 05:39 PM the 06's will carryover through 07.
lonestar 06-17-2006, 07:42 PM the 06's will carryover through 07.
Well I hope I'm not going to be disappointed with the new models. I'm waiting 6 or so months for these cars and giving Scion the benefit of the doubt that the new cars will be worth the wait for me. :pray: Otherwise I might have to snag one of these 07 xB's. :D
Tomas 06-17-2006, 07:57 PM (When Scion finally announces the xB's replacement, if it is drasticly different in concept I don't expect the remaining xB's to just sit on dealer lots - I expect them to disappear quickly. If it continues the box theme with improvements, however...)
hotbox05 06-17-2006, 10:52 PM the 06's will carryover through 07.
Well I hope I'm not going to be disappointed with the new models. I'm waiting 6 or so months for these cars and giving Scion the benefit of the doubt that the new cars will be worth the wait for me. :pray: Otherwise I might have to snag one of these 07 xB's. :Dyeah i wouldn't bank on it. just be prepared to buy a used xB.
hotbox05 06-17-2006, 10:53 PM even if it continues the box theme some will love the current much better and others will love the new much better. with cars so wildly designed there will always be fans.
lonestar 06-18-2006, 02:36 AM A wild design is key for me. Look at the Fuse concept, it's amazing. If they released that tomorrow I'd be the first in line and pay whatever they asked. i don't think I would be alone, either.
hotbox05 06-18-2006, 07:17 AM the doors on the fuse are horrendous. the headlights are horrendous , the gadgets inside are stupid. the good things are the actual shape of the car. too bad it isn't rwd. poo.
lonestar 06-18-2006, 05:59 PM what i meant is if the released a realistic production version that used that body style. I disagree with you on the headlights, I love them.
lonestar 06-20-2006, 05:31 PM I got some new info that seems to confirm the 2.4L engine in the xB. also has some info on the xA.
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1651916#1651916
evilBOXevil 06-20-2006, 07:25 PM Just confirmed!!!! The new xB will be a joint venture between Toyota and Honda. It will look like the xB now, but will be sized like the the Honda Element, and will have the Same engine as a CR-V!!!! Toyota is dropping it from the Scion line altogether. It will be sold thru Honda!!!
Screenshot from new marketing commercials to start airing soon:
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/24701_9.jpg
"The all new Honda excrement!!!"
OldYeller 06-21-2006, 06:47 AM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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hotbox05 06-21-2006, 07:59 AM I got some new info that seems to confirm the 2.4L engine in the xB. also has some info on the xA.
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1651916#1651916 that's not confirmed......
lonestar 06-21-2006, 08:41 AM I got some new info that seems to confirm the 2.4L engine in the xB. also has some info on the xA.
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1651916#1651916 that's not confirmed......
i said it SEEMS to confirm.
saddlesore 06-21-2006, 09:33 AM Honda POO...err ......excreatment......
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susano705 07-01-2006, 10:49 PM When I was at the dealership in West Springfield, MA today the salesman told me XB '07's were on their way and the sticker price went up $100. Can anyone verify that? Maybe they're actually '06.75!
chiburu 07-02-2006, 08:14 AM But the smile is at least different than the new bB in Japan...
http://tijil.org/07bB01.jpg
:D
man this thing reminds me of that big shark from the movie Shark tale. this new bB is fugly.
lonestar 07-02-2006, 05:22 PM When I was at the dealership in West Springfield, MA today the salesman told me XB '07's were on their way and the sticker price went up $100. Can anyone verify that? Maybe they're actually '06.75!
Someone else was talking about delears calling them 07's. They're not.
vintage42 07-25-2006, 08:27 PM When I was at the dealership in West Springfield, MA today the salesman told me XB '07's were on their way and the sticker price went up $100. Can anyone verify that? Maybe they're actually '06.75!
Someone else was talking about delears calling them 07's. They're not.
The latest Car and Driver magazine has thumbnails and descriptions of all the 2007 cars. They show the 2007 xB as unchanged outwardly from 2006 and call it a "carryover" model.
OldYeller 07-26-2006, 05:06 AM When I was at the dealership in West Springfield, MA today the salesman told me XB '07's were on their way and the sticker price went up $100. Can anyone verify that? Maybe they're actually '06.75!
Someone else was talking about delears calling them 07's. They're not.
The latest Car and Driver magazine has thumbnails and descriptions of all the 2007 cars. They show the 2007 xB as unchanged outwardly from 2006 and call it a "carryover" model.
This makes the most since in view of no word to the contrary from Toyota.........
lonestar 07-26-2006, 06:31 AM It may be considered a "carryover" model but it's still not listed as an '07. Not on scion.com, not at any local dealerships, not anywhere. It's a 06.5...
Tomas 07-26-2006, 07:01 AM Random thoughts...
If the cars being sold as 'current model' in early 2007 are not called 2007, the owners may be hurt down the line when they go to sell/trade the bought in 2007 xB as a year-older 2006 xB. In fact, if any are actually made in the new year, they may HAVE to be marketed as 2007's...
Keep in mind, too, that the 'hold-over' 2005s sold in early 2006 were marketed as 2006s, and when the REAL 2006s finally came out (new radios, new radio controls, new radio wiring, new air bags, etc.), they were just slipped in with no official model year change - they were just newer versions of the 2006 that WE called 2006.5 models.
I suspect the 2006 xB will quietly change to 2007 xB at some point and then be discontinued when the new "whatever" comes out.
We'll see...
Tom
lonestar 07-26-2006, 08:32 AM Yeah, I suppose this may be true. If I decide to buy an xB(assuming the new models look like poop) I would sure like it to have the title of "07" but in the meantime I think they can still be considered 06's and the dealerships that are advertising them as 07's right now, imo, shouldn't without an official announcement from scion.
hotbox05 07-26-2006, 10:28 AM 06 models stop being made at the end of the year. they will be sold till they're gone. the 08's will come out in late spring of 07.
dropzone 07-26-2006, 09:35 PM I stopped by the Scion Toyota dealer near me yesterday and asked the sales rep that aproached me about news of 2007 xB and his reply was there will NOT be a 2007 xB release. The production will continue to sell the 2006 xB through the middle of 2007 and that will be the end of its run. He mentioned that Scion will have a press release at about two months time about what's going on. This is making me question buying one(if things go like I'd want, possibly early next year) since there's nothing official for the 2008 U.S. release(which the press release best to show pics of replacements). The design is the key thing that makes me want the current xB, and a radical design change like the JDM bB is likely to make me go somewhere else(I haven't warmed up to it yet).
xCube 07-27-2006, 01:24 AM Bump the prerss release, I want to see the new xb(or whatever it is called) like NOW! The 2.4 L is so a turn on, a motivation to upgrade to the new model. Like alot of people are saying we are waiting to see what it looks like b4 making another move. Knowing Toyota, they may not turn us off from their product
I am finally getting my box back from hurricane wilma repairs and it looks brand new, good enough to trade in. SO SCION or anybody, GIVE US A CLUE.
hotbox05 07-31-2006, 01:24 AM I stopped by the Scion Toyota dealer near me yesterday and asked the sales rep that aproached me about news of 2007 xB and his reply was there will NOT be a 2007 xB release. The production will continue to sell the 2006 xB through the middle of 2007 and that will be the end of its run. He mentioned that Scion will have a press release at about two months time about what's going on. This is making me question buying one(if things go like I'd want, possibly early next year) since there's nothing official for the 2008 U.S. release(which the press release best to show pics of replacements). The design is the key thing that makes me want the current xB, and a radical design change like the JDM bB is likely to make me go somewhere else(I haven't warmed up to it yet).get a current xb
cutmyearoff 07-31-2006, 04:57 AM I have been debating getting an xb this fall but was hoping to get the new model, whatever that will be. If they wait till the middle of next year I might end up getting something else. I like the current box but am really excited at the supposed new model that might be coming out soon. I know there is a lot of speculation about all of this but I really hope that the new car is released this fall.
hotbox05 07-31-2006, 05:23 AM how can you be excited about something that isn't even 100% out in the open ?
cutmyearoff 07-31-2006, 05:55 AM Well, I suppose I'm hoping and dreaming. I do really like the current xb but all of the wonderful pictures of the possible replacement really make me excited and hopeful.
If the new vehicle is something entirely different and it doesn't float my boat then I guess I'll move on to something else. I guess I am hoping it looks like the new Japanese bB - which I think is a very sexy looking automobile.
I guess time will tell.
bBlover 07-31-2006, 07:26 AM I say sell the xBs til March then bring w/e that new thing is called out.
lonestar 07-31-2006, 08:55 AM I stopped by the Scion Toyota dealer near me yesterday and asked the sales rep that aproached me about news of 2007 xB and his reply was there will NOT be a 2007 xB release. The production will continue to sell the 2006 xB through the middle of 2007 and that will be the end of its run. He mentioned that Scion will have a press release at about two months time about what's going on. This is making me question buying one(if things go like I'd want, possibly early next year) since there's nothing official for the 2008 U.S. release(which the press release best to show pics of replacements). The design is the key thing that makes me want the current xB, and a radical design change like the JDM bB is likely to make me go somewhere else(I haven't warmed up to it yet).get a current xb
Yeah, I decided not to wait any longer. The drop in mpg was the main reason. Plus, the t2b is pretty hoagly...apparently the new model will look alot like that.
However, I'm sure hotbox05 won't like the idea of me getting a BOP with gold/bronze rims. :lalala:
hotbox05 07-31-2006, 10:42 AM it's ok imitation is the most sincere form of flattery right?
hotbox05 07-31-2006, 10:43 AM Well, I suppose I'm hoping and dreaming. I do really like the current xb but all of the wonderful pictures of the possible replacement really make me excited and hopeful.
If the new vehicle is something entirely different and it doesn't float my boat then I guess I'll move on to something else. I guess I am hoping it looks like the new Japanese bB - which I think is a very sexy looking automobile.
I guess time will tell.the new 06 bB body style will NEVER hit us shores as a usdm production model.
vintage42 07-31-2006, 01:16 PM 06 models stop being made at the end of the year. they will be sold till they're gone. the 08's will come out in late spring of 07.
This would fit with what Car and Driver showed in their thumbnails and descriptions of all the 2007 cars. They show the 2007 xB as unchanged outwardly from 2006 and call it a "carryover" model. Carryover means the 2006 will be sold as the 2007. Car and Driver was not speculating. This was their report on all the 2007 cars for sale in the US. If anyone wants the current xB, better get it before production stops and the inventory of the so-called "2007" models starts declining. I doubt that the present xB model will have to be dumped at distress-sale prices. It is likely that as the pipeline dries up, there will be less choice of colors and options, and higher market-adjustment fees.
cutmyearoff 07-31-2006, 02:45 PM So the image posted above of the white bB is not the new US vehicle?
Do you think the US vehicle will be look similar to it?
I know this is all speculation, but I am really hoping for something similar to that new bB in the image above.
I can probably hold out till january but I really would like to get something in November or sooner. Not sure that I want to buy a model that I know will be discontinued in a year.
I would love one of those new bBs with black leather interior and nice Alpine IVA -W200 to operate my ipod - man what a great commuter vehicle that would be for me in Los Angeles.
vintage42 07-31-2006, 04:14 PM So the image posted above of the white bB is not the new US vehicle? Do you think the US vehicle will be look similar to it? I know this is all speculation, but I am really hoping for something similar to that new bB in the image above. I can probably hold out till january but I really would like to get something in November or sooner. Not sure that I want to buy a model that I know will be discontinued in a year....
The image may be of the redesigned 2008 xB that may arrive in Spring 2007. The image and the timetable are speculation.
Indications are that the present xB will be discontinued sometime this Fall and the remaining inventory will be sold as a 2007 model until the cars are gone. Perhaps even now the xBs on the production line are being given some little upgraded feature to differentiate the carryover 2006 models as a 2007 and allow a little higher price.
It is not likely that the redesigned 2008 model will come as soon as November 2006 or even January 2007.
If you buy the present 2004-2007 xB, there are a lot of mods and accessories available, and a big knowledge base. If you wait and buy a 2008 xB next Spring or whenever, it would be like buying the first 2004 xB, and waiting for the aftermarket to catch up. The 2008 model might also be bigger, more powerful, more expensive, get worse mileage, and look worse.
brambling 07-31-2006, 05:14 PM So is Toyota abandoning lean production for the xB? Building to Fall to meet six months demand?
YourNameHere 07-31-2006, 05:29 PM put a 1.8l or the 2.4 in the vurrent xB and ill trade mine in tomorrow.
cutmyearoff 07-31-2006, 06:50 PM That is a good point about the aftermarket stuff, however, I'm primarily interested in having leather seats and some sort easily accessible ipod control/touch screen. Which will be easy to do. I'm really looking to "hotrod" the vehicle.
I've been talking with a really nice fella from Longo toyota/scion so I think in a month or so I'll make my decision whether to wait or go for the current model.
I'm not in any rush but I would like to get the good mpg, since I commute so much.
thanks for the input.
vintage42 08-03-2006, 12:32 AM That is a good point about the aftermarket stuff, however, I'm primarily interested in having leather seats and some sort easily accessible ipod control/touch screen. Which will be easy to do....
Only after the "aftermarket" gears up for the new model.
Might take a few months for Katzskins to develop new seat covers. I love mine.
Performance aftermarket mods might take longer if the new xB has a different engine and body.
The iPod screen is already a factory option, so there should be no delay.
bBlover 08-03-2006, 05:56 AM Any info on maybe a sunroof??
YourNameHere 08-03-2006, 02:18 PM I dont think there will be a big jump in performance. The 1.8l from the matrix will be in the next xB, not the 2.4l. They need a gap between the xB and the tC. I think the proof that we are getting a bigger engine is pretty obvious. If we were getting the 1.5l they would have just sent the new bB over here. Since they didn’t, we must be getting a totally unique model, and I think the 1.8l is the only logical choice. They sent us the xB and xA because it was the cheapest way to get cars here. They didn’t know if Scion would succeed so they didnt want to put millions into developing new models. Toyota has seen that they can sell cars on styling alone. (cause none of us bought the xB cause of its performance). I think they will continue this trend. Hopefully they stay true to the appearance that makes the xB so popular. And a few more ponys wouldn’t hurt hehe
I think all you future scion owners shoulds top worrying about the future and just buy a scion now. Quit making up excuses! You are gonna ponder more and more time away that could have been spent cruising the roads.
Heres a well known secret :) If you buy a 2006.5 and a new model comes out that you super-like, trade your 2006.5 in towards it or sell it private party. They hold their value like gold. :bow:
RTon20s 08-03-2006, 03:52 PM I have to disagree with you "YourNameHere." I believe (as many have posted) the replacement for the xB will be outfitted with the 2.4 liter out of the tC. That means lots of extra weight in the front end and chassis in general. In addition new buyers will be blessed with relatively poor gas mileage.
If it looks good though, I am sure the wife will be trading in her '05. She is definitely interested in getting a little more power.
mec_os 08-11-2006, 11:02 PM i have to disagree with everyone on this forum. toyota has already said their will be absolutely no changes to the exterior, interior or drivetrain of the XBs. there won't be any changes at all.
(still hoping for telescopic steering wheel though - it's hard to reach as it is now)
Archngl 08-11-2006, 11:32 PM I think that "your name here" is incorrect in saying that nobody bought an xb based on performance.
I believe it "performs" well to my needs in the area of MPG. That was a big reason I bought it. It out performed alot of cars in that category when I was looking to buy a new car.
xCube 08-12-2006, 12:46 AM I think that "your name here" is incorrect in saying that nobody bought an xb based on performance.
I believe it "performs" well to my needs in the area of MPG. That was a big reason I bought it. It out performed alot of cars in that category when I was looking to buy a new car.
Well for me it was the over all apperance and not performance. My decision went as follows: Looks, interior space, price- cheaper than the Element that i was going for, customizing, and than performance. The ability to customize, I knew would make it more popular. It is something that other makers fail to realize. Giving consumers the ability to make a car their own is better than making a car for what you believe we would like. I think that was an overall reason for the success of Scion. Everyone is trying hard to jump on the bandwagon, and so far they haven't come close. Thank you Scion - keep it up. You are my brand.
lonestar 08-12-2006, 12:54 AM i have to disagree with everyone on this forum. toyota has already said their will be absolutely no changes to the exterior, interior or drivetrain of the XBs. there won't be any changes at all.
(still hoping for telescopic steering wheel though - it's hard to reach as it is now)
The title of this thread says 2007 but everyone is talking about the 2008 model.
Toyota hasn't said anything one way or another about the 2007 model. There isn't even going to be a 2007. The 2006 will carryover until the 2008 is released this spring.
xCube 08-12-2006, 01:01 AM i have to disagree with everyone on this forum. toyota has already said their will be absolutely no changes to the exterior, interior or drivetrain of the XBs. there won't be any changes at all.
(still hoping for telescopic steering wheel though - it's hard to reach as it is now)
The title of this thread says 2007 but everyone is talking about the 2008 model.
Toyota hasn't said anything one way or another about the 2007 model. There isn't even going to be a 2007. The 2006 will carryover until the 2008 is released this spring.
My bad, but you know what? No ofense Please! If this is about 07 than it doesn't need to be in the second generation post, cause 06 will carry over into 07 until new one comes out and technically 07 doesn't make it second generation. That is my two cents worth, now can I get some gummy bears please.
lonestar 08-12-2006, 01:15 AM My bad, but you know what? No ofense Please! If this is about 07 than it doesn't need to be in the second generation post, cause 06 will carry over into 07 until new one comes out and technically 07 doesn't make it second generation. That is my two cents worth, now can I get some gummy bears please.[/quote]
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not complaining about people talking about the second gen. model. I was trying to explain to that guy because I don't think he realized we were discussing the 08 and not the "07".
Now give me those gummi bears. :)
xCube 08-12-2006, 01:21 AM Lonestar, I got you, it's cool, yeah you tell him dude.
hunterUnknown 08-12-2006, 02:11 AM I dont think there will be a big jump in performance. The 1.8l from the matrix will be in the next xB, not the 2.4l. They need a gap between the xB and the tC. I think the proof that we are getting a bigger engine is pretty obvious. If we were getting the 1.5l they would have just sent the new bB over here. Since they didn’t, we must be getting a totally unique model, and I think the 1.8l is the only logical choice. They sent us the xB and xA because it was the cheapest way to get cars here. They didn’t know if Scion would succeed so they didnt want to put millions into developing new models. Toyota has seen that they can sell cars on styling alone. (cause none of us bought the xB cause of its performance). I think they will continue this trend. Hopefully they stay true to the appearance that makes the xB so popular. And a few more ponys wouldn’t hurt hehe
I agree with you.
I like the comment about "performance" when everyone knows when someone says that, they DON'T mean MPG.
Also, why would you stick a 2.4L in an xB? The 1.8L makes sense. It's very economical, lightweight, and has PERFORMANCE advantages over the 1.5L.
I could be wrong, but then again I'm not making absolute statements like other members here, saying there WILL be anything in particular. Unless of course someone has some extreme insider information. :]
TuningIsLife 08-12-2006, 05:32 PM 1.8L will be put in the new short 4 door hatch. The 2.4L will be put into the new tall CUV. Stated and done.
lonestar 08-12-2006, 06:53 PM CUV....compact utility vehicle?
TuningIsLife 08-12-2006, 07:01 PM YUP. Technically, the Matrix is called a CUV, and the xB is called a SUV. Check it out in your weight sticker, says SUV.
CaJuN_tC_2007 08-12-2006, 07:14 PM I work in the parts dept. at a Scion Dealership and Ive heard speculation also from within the dealership that the new xB will be a 2.4L. Im just the low man on the totem poll but who knows whats true and whats false.
The 1.8 makes perfect sense for the next xB. It gets great mileage and would smoke the 1.5 without any problem at all. The only thing about the 2.4 would be to compete, pricewise, with more value packed cars like the new Rabbit. The 2.4 would put it at 15K or above and right in the range of more powerful options. I would hate to see the 2.4 in the xB but they may force the market to choose performance (xB) or economy (xA).
uberscionofglendale 08-12-2006, 09:40 PM just wanna throw this out there, the chances of them bringing a model that's already out somewhere else (japan, europe) is very slim. the tC was the first "true" scion. they made it specifically for this market. no other market has it. the xA and xB should be the same. something made specifically for this market.
JUMBO 08-12-2006, 09:47 PM YUP. Technically, the Matrix is called a CUV, and the xB is called a SUV. Check it out in your weight sticker, says SUV.
According to the window sticker, the EPA classifies the xB as a "small wagon", and it insures as a compact car.
The new BB gives me the creeps so I hope the next xA and xB are original.
Not for the shocker . . . I like the Aygo! I don't think even Canada has it. If it's smaller than the xA/Yaris, it may be deemed too small for us hulking Amuhricans. Would like to see one in 3D, though. That 61mpg will be very attractive a year from now at $4.00/gallon!
http://www.carpages.co.uk/toyota/toyota_images/toyota_aygo_08_06_05.jpg
TuningIsLife 08-13-2006, 05:52 AM YUP. Technically, the Matrix is called a CUV, and the xB is called a SUV. Check it out in your weight sticker, says SUV.
According to the window sticker, the EPA classifies the xB as a "small wagon", and it insures as a compact car.
Yea, but open the door and check the Gross Vehicle Weight sticker also a 6200/6201 is label Scion xB SUV.
Word down the line is that they are not bringing anything into the market that already exist. They are not "redesigning" the xA and xB, They are coming out with two new models, one being closely based on the t2b including the 2.4L motor. It will not be called the bB, for that would defeat the purpose the JDM people such as my self enjoy. It will have an entirely new designation.
lonestar 08-13-2006, 06:41 AM ^^^he's right.
Tomas 08-13-2006, 07:41 AM YUP. Technically, the Matrix is called a CUV, and the xB is called a SUV. Check it out in your weight sticker, says SUV.
Guess it depends... MINE says "MPV" on it's federal "B" pillar ID plate, not "SUV."
Here's the 'proof pic.'
http://tijil.org/xB_VEH_ID_TAG.gif
Tomas
vintage42 08-13-2006, 02:58 PM ...open the door and check the Gross Vehicle Weight sticker also a 6200/6201 is label Scion xB SUV....
My 2006 sticker has MPV like on Tomas's 2004 sticker.
JUMBO 08-13-2006, 10:09 PM It's built on a car chassis, and insures like a car. Could be a car, huh?
TuningIsLife 08-14-2006, 12:14 AM Sorry mpv is what i ment. I just say its a box :-D
YourNameHere 08-14-2006, 03:11 PM well i have a theory about the next xB...it may have been stated already but here goes. I think the next xB will be based heavly in the t2B concept. and yea yea i know that people have said it wont. But, the pic of the test mule that looks like an extended xB looks like its the same size as the t2B, it also has that really thick c-pillar. The t2B has the 2.4l which everyone seems agree will power the next car.
I talked to my local Scion guy saturday and he said Scion is having a big event in Miami to unvail the next xA and xB in Jan. The 1st ppl to see it will be scion owners who win a contest to the debut party, then the next night smaller import magazines and then the big mags will get a shot after them. He says the district Scion guy told him the next xA is going to be crazy. I know this is alot of he said this and he said that BS but hopefully there is a grain of truth...cause frankly im getting tired of waiting!
TuningIsLife 08-14-2006, 06:51 PM ^^^ This is what I have heard, just not the debut part.
YourNameHere 08-14-2006, 07:11 PM yea, well like i said the debut part is could just be dealer BS...but who knows...The event sounds like something scion would do.
hotbox05 08-15-2006, 07:38 AM it will be heavily t2b which is a SAD , SAD thing. horrible thing no doubt.
i've heard miami hin as teh debut as well so who knows 100% on that end of things but yeah. t 2 crap is almost what we're getting
tonylunchbox19 09-06-2006, 10:36 PM There will be no production of the 2007 xb! It will automatically jump into the 2008! There will be a 6 month gap between the 2006 to the 2008! I have talked to the top people of toyota and how did I do that! I work for Toyota Corp!!!!
TuningIsLife 09-06-2006, 10:48 PM OK somebody lock this, this is getting old repeating ourselves.
SciFly 09-07-2006, 09:46 AM OK somebody lock this, this is getting old repeating ourselves.
Like this?
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mehow 11-02-2006, 06:26 AM Does anyone have any updated news about the "2007 xB" or are the '06 xB's the last of the generation?
Tomas 11-02-2006, 06:35 AM All xB production ends in December per Toyota. The announcement is here on ScionLife somewhere.
Tomas
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