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lonestar
06-15-2006, 08:48 AM
This is everything I've heard and/or read about the 2008 xB.

It will use a 2.4L engine (taken from the Camry)

The name and body style will be different from the current model.

It will be released early 2007.

the xB and xA will not have a 2007 model year (except for a RS 4.0 and 3.0 respectively)

blackwagon
06-15-2006, 09:07 AM
no! the replacement for the xb is going to have at least 600 whp all wheel drive and will be crafted in the likeness of god herself... havent you heard? some people i tell ya, must be living under a rock.

RedneckwithanxB
06-15-2006, 09:35 AM
i heard rumors of a turbine engine

lonestar
06-15-2006, 07:40 PM
here it it ladies and gentleman. the 2nd gen xB. this is one bad mutha...

http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/06/family-truckster-3d-resized.jpg

RTon20s
06-15-2006, 11:12 PM
How in the world did you get early release pictures of the Scion fT?!

For those that don't know the fT stands for family Truckster. Scion Night is also going to be held at Wally World from now on as well.

RedneckwithanxB
06-16-2006, 03:03 AM
clark, did you overtake a sercuity guard at an amusement park with a bb gun????//

OldYeller
06-16-2006, 07:05 AM
here it it ladies and gentleman. the 2nd gen xB. this is one bad mutha...

http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/06/family-truckster-3d-resized.jpg

My Gawd!! A xD Woodie complete with Yakima rack. Got to get at least 12 MPG.
UHHHHH--is that Envy Green???

Flecs
06-16-2006, 07:26 AM
its the most bootyful ting id ever sawed

lonestar
06-16-2006, 09:22 AM
the color is badassery green and the wood panels are from trees from the rainforest. and if you were wondering those wheels are 27's never seen on a production car until now.

woof
06-17-2006, 04:21 PM
With escalating gas prices why the Camry engine? Doesn't make sense. Scion is selling as many units to oldsters as youngsters.

jct
06-17-2006, 05:35 PM
all i can say is thats freakin funny love the fT jokes hahahaha!!!

hotbox05
06-17-2006, 05:41 PM
yeah the 1.8 1zz motor gets better gas mileage gets pretty close to the same power. just as easily modable. and it's smaller and cheaper than the camry motor....

lonestar
06-17-2006, 07:37 PM
yeah the 1.8 1zz motor gets better gas mileage gets pretty close to the same power. just as easily modable. and it's smaller and cheaper than the camry motor....

I would actually prefer the 1.8 engine over the 2.4. This is just what I've heard from lots of people.

pballplayer18
06-17-2006, 09:51 PM
ft stands for f*cking tarted

hotbox05
06-17-2006, 10:56 PM
yeah the 1.8 1zz motor gets better gas mileage gets pretty close to the same power. just as easily modable. and it's smaller and cheaper than the camry motor....

I would actually prefer the 1.8 engine over the 2.4. This is just what I've heard from lots of people.yeah i'd much rather have the 1zz. but oh well.

CrownScion
06-18-2006, 09:01 AM
HEY! i just got the news with Toyota... RS 4 will be a shade of red called Mozara!!! call me at crown toyota in cali for more info. Shaun.

robertdawg014
06-18-2006, 09:12 AM
Scion FT?... as in Scion FukThat! xB 1st gen!

Cmec2004
06-18-2006, 05:41 PM
it will have a 1.8 L not hte 2.4

lonestar
06-18-2006, 06:12 PM
it will have a 1.8 L not hte 2.4

I'm just repeating what I've heard from multiple independent sources. If you can shed some light as to how you know it will be the 1.8 I'm sure everyone would like to know.

hotbox05
06-18-2006, 11:14 PM
it will have a 1.8 L not hte 2.4i first heard that it would have the 1.8 and be based off the corolla now everywhere i'm hearing 2.4craptastical 2az

lonestar
06-19-2006, 01:08 AM
it will have a 1.8 L not hte 2.4i first heard that it would have the 1.8 and be based off the corolla now everywhere i'm hearing 2.4craptastical 2az

the chassis will be based off the corolla but the engine as well? Several scion people have stated corolla chassis, camry engine. who knows.

What kind of power would the 1.8 put out if you had to guess?

Cmec2004
06-19-2006, 02:34 AM
i have heard this news from a scion source thats been correct on everything he has told me cant reveal to much sorry

lonestar
06-19-2006, 03:57 AM
i have heard this news from a scion source thats been correct on everything he has told me cant reveal to much sorry

anything you can tell us about the xA?

RBasil
06-19-2006, 11:02 AM
My grandma's, brothers, nephew on my dad's side told me.....

You guys with your "I have a source but I can't say anything about it" crack me up. :rofl:

hotbox05
06-19-2006, 04:14 PM
it will have a 1.8 L not hte 2.4i first heard that it would have the 1.8 and be based off the corolla now everywhere i'm hearing 2.4craptastical 2az

the chassis will be based off the corolla but the engine as well? Several scion people have stated corolla chassis, camry engine. who knows.

What kind of power would the 1.8 put out if you had to guess?
the 1zz (vvti)ranged from 123hp to 140. the 2zz (vvtli) ranged from like 170-190.


a trd supercharged 1zz has 163whp and about 150ish tq so about teh same as the 2zz hp wise but more torque. add intake , header , full exhaust , engine dampoer , race clutch , and other items you'd have a 180-200 whp killer!!!

lonestar
06-20-2006, 07:34 AM
i read some interesting info on an xA rumors thread but since it concerns both the xA and xB I thought I would share.

I just got back from doing a Car focus group survey in Atlanta. I did not know that the survey was for until I got to the confrence room. The survey was paying 150 dollars so I figured I go when they called me. When I got to the confrence room in atlanta there were about twenty people. They seperated us into two groups one group of ten was of xa owners and the other group of ten of xb owners. We did not know that we were all scion owners until we started getting interviewed. Surprise Surprise! Come to find out it was a survey to see how people reacted to the new scion xb and scion xa models!! At first I was a little disapointed in the new xa. I t kind of looks like the tc in the front except stretched lower to the ground, and the taillights look like chevy aveo hatchback taillights. To everybodies dissapointment the cluster in the xa is no longer in the center of the car but in the typical spot between the steering wheel.The new xb looks menacing ,but bulkier and at the same time a little more rounder around the edges. The new xb looks a little bigger than the last one. But its still very noticable an xb while on the other hand the xa has none of its older model characteristics in the front or rear. After looking at the new xa for awhile it started to grow on me and I started to like the diffrences Kind off like how a song you barly likes grows on you and before you know it you singing along to it. The power train on the xa and xa are also updated. The new xa is going from 110 horsepower to 130 while increasing miles per gallon from 35 average to 37 average!!! The xb on the other hand is sacrificing miles per gallon for horspower which for some is a good thing but for most it was a thumbs down. The xb is packing a 2.4 litre putting out 160 horsepower while miles per gallon goes all the way down to 25. Over all its seems they are trying to atrract mre males with the more aggressive looking xa and are trying to broaden ther horizons wih the more spacy, speedier xb. Concluding the new model scion xa will be 500 dollars more than the current xa and the xb 1500 dollars more. The were also talking about four wheel drive for both vehicles. Thats right FOR BOTH XA AND XB. I cannot wait for the arrivals of these two new models and the mixed reactions from everybody whether its the new bulkier more rounded off xb to the more agressive xa, its still gonna be like the scions of now. You either hate em or love em.


The two are sceduled to release early 2007.

evilBOXevil
06-20-2006, 07:27 PM
Some interesting new info found about a Honda/Toyota joint venture:

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1653063#1653063

OldYeller
06-21-2006, 06:55 AM
An xB that gets 25 MPG. Wow--that is what I want. As Toyota goes on to surpass GM as the worlds biggest car maker does that mean they become stupid as well?? They are going to be sorry--mark my words...........

hotbox05
06-21-2006, 08:02 AM
i don't believe it . not at all.


if it's true i'll take the 1.8 out of the xa and make it work in my xb tho.

lonestar
06-21-2006, 08:46 AM
i don't believe it . not at all.


if it's true i'll take the 1.8 out of the xa and make it work in my xb tho.

:blah: i don't see how people keep doubting the 2.4L in light of all the evidence! this is just one of many confirmations of the 2.4L engine. this one is the most concrete, though.

the 1.8L would be great in the xB and will be great in the xA. but it doesn't look like you'll see it in the new xB.

hotbox05
06-21-2006, 09:46 AM
i mean as in I don't believe his whole story....


i've thought it was the 2.4 the whole time. never have liked it but pretty much always knew that's the crap xb was gonna get.

Sciond
06-21-2006, 12:35 PM
i mean as in I don't believe his whole story....


i've thought it was the 2.4 the whole time. never have liked it but pretty much always knew that's the crap xb was gonna get.
what does it matter to you since you got your box.... are you trading up?

hotbox05
06-21-2006, 04:01 PM
i mean as in I don't believe his whole story....


i've thought it was the 2.4 the whole time. never have liked it but pretty much always knew that's the crap xb was gonna get.
what does it matter to you since you got your box.... are you trading up?if the new xb has the 1.8 it wouldpossibly be easier for an engine swap kit. basically my car is slow as balls but i love it's design.

xBster
06-21-2006, 05:09 PM
I can't wait to see the final body styles and engine choices so we can all sleep at night.

lonestar
06-21-2006, 05:18 PM
just turbocharge it. it would probably be cheaper than an engine swap and even if you did do a swap you may be waiting quite awhile to get your hands on one.

Sciond
06-21-2006, 09:21 PM
i mean as in I don't believe his whole story....


i've thought it was the 2.4 the whole time. never have liked it but pretty much always knew that's the crap xb was gonna get.
what does it matter to you since you got your box.... are you trading up?if the new xb has the 1.8 it wouldpossibly be easier for an engine swap kit. basically my car is slow as balls but i love it's design.
ahhhhh

Sciond
06-21-2006, 09:23 PM
just turbocharge it. it would probably be cheaper than an engine swap and even if you did do a swap you may be waiting quite awhile to get your hands on one.
well no not really lots of those engines out there..all you need in the mounts, harness, ecu and some other odds and ends......so if you dont wanna wait for a totaled one you can probably source the parts.....

lonestar
06-22-2006, 02:32 AM
just turbocharge it. it would probably be cheaper than an engine swap and even if you did do a swap you may be waiting quite awhile to get your hands on one.
well no not really lots of those engines out there..all you need in the mounts, harness, ecu and some other odds and ends......so if you dont wanna wait for a totaled one you can probably source the parts.....

so you're telling me there will be plenty of 2008 xb motors that aren't even out til spring 2007 will be easy to get ahold of?


Edited by Spider13

hotbox05
06-22-2006, 04:57 AM
just turbocharge it. it would probably be cheaper than an engine swap and even if you did do a swap you may be waiting quite awhile to get your hands on one.
well no not really lots of those engines out there..all you need in the mounts, harness, ecu and some other odds and ends......so if you dont wanna wait for a totaled one you can probably source the parts.....

so you're telling me there will be plenty of 2008 xb motors that aren't even out til spring 2007 will be easy to get ahold of? no i'd use any 2005 or newer 1zz(in corolla , celica , mr2). (said to be in the 08 xB) and then source/fabricate the mounts after/from the 08 xb

Gaps720
06-22-2006, 06:11 PM
so are the chassis and body going to be the same size?

RTon20s
06-22-2006, 11:15 PM
I can't believe Darren didn't mention the most obvious reason for not going Turbo. He is a resident of the Peoples Republic of Kahleephornia. And unless you get this neat little sticker or placard from CARB to go along with your aftermarket products they are illegal to install on a street driven car here.

Any schmo can perform an engine swap in his front yard, that if done according to the regulations is 100% street legal.

lonestar
06-23-2006, 07:42 AM
unfortunately, in texas we have had George Bush and Rick Perry as our last two governors. If you don't know, they could care less about our enviroment and we have few laws in place to regulate emissions. Which means turbos aren't a problem but it also means don't visit houston unless you want to find out what global warming smells like.

RTon20s
06-23-2006, 03:51 PM
Trust... there is no need to lecture me, or anyone else in CA about air quality.

Just look at the National rankings. California is the only state with more than one city in the top 10 of worst air quality in the nation. Also Fresno (where I live), Sacramento (where Darren lives) and Bakersfield are ranked numbers 11, 12 and 13 respectively.

Fresno... where the air is so thick, you can taste it. :)

RTon20s
06-23-2006, 04:03 PM
Better yet... just take a look at the American Lung Association site.

http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=50752#graph1

I grew up in Visalia. I moved to Fresno last October, and I still commute to Visalia for work every day. You tell me if I have any idea what bad air is like? :)

lonestar
06-24-2006, 07:21 PM
It's been confirmed that the RS 4.0 xB will be mazora red.

CrownScion
06-24-2006, 07:38 PM
Yup, I confirmed it;

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/shah247/315c43b5.jpg (my cell phone pic)

Decendant08
06-24-2006, 07:39 PM
when and who confirmed this.......also when is it coming out?

Keitaro
06-25-2006, 01:29 AM
Toyota was able to fit the 1AZ-FSE 2.0L diesel engine in the Voxy/Noah. It's time to update the Voxy/Noah. The Hollywood Extra spy pic (white w/cardboard packing) shows similar dimensions. Also the hood line angles down like the Voxy/Noah. I like the rear sliding doors.

Voxy w/KenStyle kit
http://toyota.jp/customize/voxy/kenstyle/image/main.jpg

Noah w/several kit makers
http://toyota.jp/customize/noah/image/main.jpg

RBasil
06-25-2006, 01:33 AM
Toyota was able to fit the 1AZ-FSE 2.0L diesel engine in the Voxy/Noah. It's time to update the Voxy/Noah. The Hollywood Extra spy pic (white w/cardboard packing) shows similar dimensions. Also the hood line angles down like the Voxy/Noah. I like the rear sliding doors.

I also like the front end.

hotbox05
06-25-2006, 12:28 PM
i've always liked the voxy very much.

lonestar
06-25-2006, 06:15 PM
Not bad but a little too minivan looking. I'd like to see them on the road but I wouldn't buy one.

lonestar
06-26-2006, 07:37 PM
More info about the new models!

Nothing is in stone yet about the new models. All we know is they xB will look similar to the concept vehicle. Other than that, Scion is not comiiting to the drive train or even the exact design. The redesign will be a 2008, and come out about the same time as the new Corolla in early 2007 - probably about April.

The 2008 xA will also come out in early 2007, no word at all on the design. Just that they are going for a all new look on both models.

This means that the 2006 model will shortly be hard to find. We just recieved a good amount of them so Scion is going to do their best to build up inventories and support them as long as possible. Pretty much expect their to be no xA's or Xb's on the market for up to 6 months between the transition.

As for the tC, as has been discussed Scion plans to keep the current "Spec Package" in production. The majority of tC owners prefer to customize the appearance rather than buy a special edition of the vehicle.

OldYeller
06-27-2006, 06:05 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WHAT concept vehicle--the mule we have seen pictures of or one of the autoshow concepts????

lonestar
06-27-2006, 08:33 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WHAT concept vehicle--the mule we have seen pictures of or one of the autoshow concepts????

the t2b concept that came out awhile back. yes, it was an auto show concept and it looks like this..

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2005_new_york/0503_04+Scion_t2b_Concept+Front_Drivers_Side_View.jpg

thebiggun
06-28-2006, 11:32 PM
If you think you hate it now, wait till you drive it, Clark. :yawn: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

hotbox05
06-29-2006, 12:50 AM
t won't look too much like the t2v that's for damn sure.

BAMFXB
06-29-2006, 07:36 PM
There is supose to be a suprise at the roswell show. Maybe a booth????maybe pics we shall see....


http://users.telenet.be/Ali_G/Joe4simp.jpg

bcharley3
06-30-2006, 11:57 PM
I have been told the the 07 will look more the the Diahatsu D. I think it is better looking than the Bb to me the Bb has a shovel nose and the "D" is more refined. I really wish I knew what color choices are going to be offered. There is a pearl white and a yellow gold that are very sweet.
As to the engine I was also told that it will have the Carollas engine and not the Camery juice. I have not heard anything about AWD but really doubt that will happen.

You have to remember that Scion is a entry level car so spendy things like all wheel drive, turbos, and super chargers and the like would boost the price in to another level.

It would also be nice to see more airbags including side, head curtain, and knee bags.

I am sure that the aftermarket will have a whole host of things to add to your new beast.

It would be nice to see a more green Scion aka hybreed, who knows? Anything is possable i guess.
I do know the new Xb will be a nice ride, I hope to be lucky enough to own one.
Bruce C.

metal112524
07-01-2006, 12:13 AM
You say AWD would raise the price out into another level but you want hybrid, ever seen how much you can get a prius for. Plus the whole meaning of scion is individuality, why would they make a hybrid, everyone and their dog would want it.

OldYeller
07-01-2006, 02:18 AM
You say AWD would raise the price out into another level but you want hybrid, ever seen how much you can get a prius for. Plus the whole meaning of scion is individuality, why would they make a hybrid, everyone and their dog would want it.

Toyota has stated that by 2010 they will have a hybrid version of all of there cars available. The Prius'es I have seen are running about 28K after they pile on every imaginable option, service, and charge they can think of.....

4clones
07-01-2006, 06:23 AM
Hmmm...i'm confused...so the 2007 xB...its gonna be completely different? it's not gonna look like the current models?

lonestar
07-01-2006, 07:02 AM
There isn't a 2007 model. The 2008's are going to be redesigned.

4clones
07-01-2006, 07:42 AM
^oh, ok.. ic ic. so next yr the xB is gonna be totally new in design.

lonestar
07-01-2006, 07:57 AM
the xA as well.

japol316
07-02-2006, 06:10 AM
i really wanna freaking know what the 07/08 xb would look like... coz right now i'm freaking confused whether to buy an 06 xb or just wait for the new redesigned one. i'm always bothered of this stuff... it doesn't give me a good night sleep at all...

4clones
07-02-2006, 07:02 AM
i really wanna freaking know what the 07/08 xb would look like... coz right now i'm freaking confused whether to buy an 06 xb or just wait for the new redesigned one. i'm always bothered of this stuff... it doesn't give me a good night sleep at all...
exact same here...anyone know whats exactly up? if i buy an 06' xB and the new design comes out a few months later...im gonna be disappointed :tap:

japol316
07-02-2006, 07:12 AM
i really wanna freaking know what the 07/08 xb would look like... coz right now i'm freaking confused whether to buy an 06 xb or just wait for the new redesigned one. i'm always bothered of this stuff... it doesn't give me a good night sleep at all...
exact same here...anyone know whats exactly up? if i buy an 06' xB and the new design comes out a few months later...im gonna be disappointed :tap:


indeed! im really confused coz i badly want this 1st gen xb... but im having 2nd thoughts... what if the 2nd gen xb is better? or what if i'll be waiting for the 2nd gen and i'll just be disappointed and stuff... and i'll just end up regreting why i didn't buy the 1st gen... :pray:

4clones
07-02-2006, 08:08 AM
for some reason i have a feeling that if we call a dealership, and ask if the 2nd gen will be coming out soon, they'll probably say no..just so they can get rid of the older models.
man...this is frustrating....anyone got any info on the 2nd gen situation.
also, im confused on this whole "t2b" "concept bB" and "new xB model" thing...wuts going on??

lonestar
07-02-2006, 08:43 AM
Well, no one knows anything for sure. If you've read up on things then you should be in the same place as all of us. There is a fairly good idea of what is coming but nothing is certain. I suggest reading through all the rumor threads and then deciding if it's worth the wait or not.

metal112524
07-02-2006, 07:53 PM
We have SCION's not Toyotas, and we are talking about the 2008 xb, not the 2010 toyota scion xb. Well if they do make a hybrid model and get rid of the convetional, thank god i already got my xb. sorry to get all up in your face but i just hate it when people refer scion as toyotas. Even the people over at calty put emfessis on the fact that they love scion so much because its not toyota, or has a meaning,styling, apperance that isnt.

CamberBox
07-03-2006, 01:51 AM
I like my 06 just fine

OldYeller
07-03-2006, 06:10 AM
We have SCION's not Toyotas, and we are talking about the 2008 xb, not the 2010 toyota scion xb. Well if they do make a hybrid model and get rid of the convetional, thank god i already got my xb. sorry to get all up in your face but i just hate it when people refer scion as toyotas. Even the people over at calty put emfessis on the fact that they love scion so much because its not toyota, or has a meaning,styling, apperance that isnt.

You might want to read the name of your car on its registration. You might also want to read the name on your window glass. In both cases you will find NO reference to Scion.............You B Drivin a TOYOTA...........

Keitaro
07-04-2006, 03:06 AM
I have been told the the 07 will look more the the Diahatsu D.
http://www.autoliefhebber.com/catalog/images/autonieuws/Daihatsu%20D-Compact%20Wagon%20-%2008032006.jpg
I guess we are not getting Terios/Rush 4x4. I rather have a Daihatsu Copen. Hard top convertible well under $20K...priceless.

lonestar
07-04-2006, 07:27 AM
If you want a terios, go buy a rav 4. I don't think scion is in the business of selling compact suv's. The copen is ugly too, IMO.

Ebox3000
07-04-2006, 04:40 PM
I just bought mine last week, and they are already going to update it. I love the car, the only thing I want is more power. Not much, but enough to pass someone on the freeway if need be.

BAMFXB
07-05-2006, 02:59 PM
nice

bcharley3
07-07-2006, 07:57 PM
You say AWD would raise the price out into another level but you want hybrid, ever seen how much you can get a prius for. Plus the whole meaning of scion is individuality, why would they make a hybrid, everyone and their dog would want it.

That has to be the most snobie thig I have ever read. It's a scion not a Rolls or a Mybach the more the better I say! Yes indiviuality is important I have made my car different, and would like to think that there are alot of creative people out there that could do the same. It should be the new peoples car. It has everything needed to make it so. I know that a greener car such as a hybreed or a hydrogen car would cost alot but in the furture as the price comes down for such tech I think it makes sence. Toyota has been doing research into this for over 11yrs. I am sure that it would happen some day. Mabey the 2015 model who knows? RIght now we are getting 37mpg I would like to see it higher. more like 42mpg I have done the grounding thing and the cold-air intake. The car came with the DC sport exaust. We should get it dyno'ed to see wht the increase in HP is. I really noticed it when we put the grounding kit in. The trick there is not to daisy chain the install. with the intake I didi not really notice much in the power but the gas is going alot farther.

Lord_Violator
07-08-2006, 01:35 AM
With aplogies to Keitaro, which seemed to get the info from the same site I do; has anyone actually thought to go to the Japanese Toyota site?

xA / ist: http://toyota.jp/ist/index.html

Not much change even digging thru the website in Japanese!

xB: http://toyota.jp/bb/index.html

4WD/AWD is yes, 2 rather small engines (espically for the US), debatable styling.

JDM usually gets their cars & trucks about 3-6 months before we see the light of day so a winter '07 for the xB seems about right. Unless Scion makes radical changes based to focus groups (posted earlier by a fourm member), IMO this would be the shipping body style for the xB, again IMO.

Anyways, let the debate begin!

cliffy1
07-09-2006, 07:29 PM
Here in the dealerships, we can't even get good information. My district rep and I were talking about this last week. He told me the xA and xB will be built right up until the end of December of this year. That means they will still be arriving in dealer's showrooms through the early part of February. The replacements will be here in April (xB) and May (xA) but there are not even hints at what it will be. At least not yet.

I really tried to get information out of my district guy. Either he's a very good liar or he really don't know anything more. He can't tell me if it will be larger or smaller, nor what engine it will have. He swears complete ignorance of the new model.

On a related note, the 4.0 will not be called "Mazora", although the color code of 3R2 is correct. The name will be "Torched Penny". No, I'm not kidding. I have it in my preference bank right now. The only description I have is that it will be some sort of color changing red.

cliffy1
07-09-2006, 07:39 PM
I know this is a crappy picture, but here's a pic of my computer screen with the preference bank for the xB.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e217/cliffy109/helping%20a%20guy%20out/ATT1093321.jpg

TorchedPennyxB
07-30-2006, 05:13 AM
hey, thats the same picture my friend posted. he got booted though. i like the new name alot better. i've seen it also on the west coast color bank.

lonestar
07-30-2006, 07:35 AM
Hmmmm...

TorchedpennyxB = CrownScion.

"your friend" got booted for whoring your stuff and not really caring about the Scionlife community. We'll see how long you last this time around.

OldYeller
07-30-2006, 07:48 AM
The torched penny will be a 2007 if released and be a RS4. This has nothing to do with the 2008 speculation.

hotbox05
07-31-2006, 01:21 AM
THERE WILL BE NO 2007 xB'S

YourNameHere
08-27-2006, 07:56 PM
i was talking whit the local scion guy again. the new models will be releaed at HIN miami. ther was a regional sales meeting in Maryland recently and he said all of the scion brass where there and that nothing we have seen on the net is correct. so i guess we should just sit back and relax cause we have no clue what is going to happen.

OldYeller
09-01-2006, 07:34 AM
Well--it is Sept 1 and we still do not have a difinitive answer. They are playing us like a banjo..............

cliffy1
09-01-2006, 03:40 PM
Well--it is Sept 1 and we still do not have a difinitive answer. They are playing us like a banjo..............

Well, there might be a dealer meeting going on in San Antonio right now and there might be a couple of prototypes there for the dealer principles to oogle. I'm not sayin' nuthin, but... :lalala:

OldYeller
09-01-2006, 06:21 PM
It would seem a little late to still have prototypes.............

YourNameHere
09-01-2006, 06:27 PM
im sure there are full size driving models somewhere...now if we could just get some spy shots!

cliffy1
09-01-2006, 06:32 PM
It would seem a little late to still have prototypes.............

Really? Remember, they're still building the 2006 xA and xB right up through the end of December. Clay models and one-off cars are about the only thing you can do until production actually starts on the replacments.

Tomas
09-01-2006, 07:06 PM
Really? Remember, they're still building the 2006 xA and xB right up through the end of December. Clay models and one-off cars are about the only thing you can do until production actually starts on the replacments.
...unless they are using the OLD bB production line to produce the NEW whatever for us.

Remember, there were two lines in the bB/xB plant, and they shut down the bB half and moved new bB production to a Daihatsu plant. I suspect that the freed up production area is where our new whatever will come from.

There could already be pre-production units out there to work out all the details before they start pushing full production.

Those pre-production units are often put out as the new production line is having it's line fine-tuned, to 'prove' both the designs and the build quality. It makes sense to put out a small fleet of test units so those little problem areas can be found and fixed before they start rolling out the door for public consumption.

Tomas

YourNameHere
09-01-2006, 07:46 PM
what i woudl do to be a janitor in the Toyota plant right now.,..

OldYeller
09-02-2006, 05:51 AM
Well--it is Sept 1 and we still do not have a difinitive answer. They are playing us like a banjo..............

Well, there might be a dealer meeting going on in San Antonio right now and there might be a couple of prototypes there for the dealer principles to oogle. I'm not sayin' nuthin, but... :lalala:

Someone else posted about the San Antonio meeting and promptly got the thread locked for being "unsubstantiated". Not sure what the harm is in a little speculation??

kissingonstilts
09-03-2006, 12:51 AM
Given the number of viewers of this thread, enthusiasm about the new model is somewhat evident. I've tried several dealers to learn any 'news' about the "XB supplant", but the most I've been able to learn is that the engine will be larger, and the vehicle will be larger. I understand that a corporation has its reasons for keeping things quiet and has autonomy in planning its launch strategies, but for more than a few of us trying to plan our transportation needs, it would be helpful to provide something - perhaps someone from Toyota/Scion could answer some of the following questions:

Will the new XB 'supplant' be larger?
If so, where?
Will seating space be different?
Will the engine be larger?
How will exterior and interior aesthetics differ from current XB?
Will the cost be greater?
Colour options?

It would be meaningful to learn these things - one could still answer the questions without giving away the 'actual' vehicle.

Any help?

A valued customer and current XB owner since early 2004

SquallLHeart
09-03-2006, 12:54 AM
the new xB will be designed from the t2B concept. they will share similar features.

Tomas
09-03-2006, 01:14 AM
It may not be the current Toyota bB or Daihatsu COO that we get, but my super-detecto-auto-radar system seems to be picking up a sort of 'grown up' longer, wider, heavier, 1.8L, 5 lug version of that styling. Let's face it, changes like that WILL mean "more expensive." too.

The bB/COO IS based on the t2B, you can see a lot of the styling and features of the t2B in those designs, but word seems to be that the bB/COO are just too small to cut it in the US, long term.

Everyone here wants a 40MPG, 300 HP, 160MPH, 9 second, 4WD, 5 passenger sport coupe with a sunroof and room to carry two cords of wood without flipping the seats down - for under $15,000.

Is NOT going to happen. :lol:

Think 9 inch longer, 6 inch wider bB/COO. That's more like what I feel is coming.

Tomas

SquallLHeart
09-03-2006, 01:27 AM
hmm.. heard that the new xB will get the bigger 2.4L

Tomas
09-03-2006, 01:31 AM
...sounds more like a minivan without sliding doors all the time...

Tomas

Sciond
09-04-2006, 02:51 AM
Well--it is Sept 1 and we still do not have a difinitive answer. They are playing us like a banjo..............
Yeah!

ScionEyes
09-04-2006, 08:51 PM
Well--it is Sept 1 and we still do not have a difinitive answer. They are playing us like a banjo..............
Yeah!


patients my friends patience!

you will see the truth soon enough!

YourNameHere
09-05-2006, 02:19 PM
i would like to see some tricky seating arangements like in the VW Vans. maybe rear faceing seats? a travel table? I liked that toyota concept that had the seats thta did all sorts of stuff. the wrap around couch and what not. that would deff set the xB apart from anything else on the road.

Scion_Cracker
12-21-2006, 10:15 PM
You're right about everything except that it will not be released in early 2007. You will not see the new xB until early May and xD until August. :loser: