Okay, so I am modding the 3rd brake light, as it only has 6 LED's in the middle (I don't know why).

I installed superflux LED's with 12,000MCD and 120° viewing angle. These LED's are a more pure red, and makes the stock LED's look more orange. I may have to change those as well.

Everything looks completely stock (as it should). The brightness is perfect. There is no errors in the angles of the LED's.

Enjoy the pics, and ask questions if you have any.

(Click on the image to view a full size picture)

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight1a.jpg (http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight1.jpg)

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight2a.jpg (http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight2.jpg)

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight3a.jpg (http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight3.jpg)

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight4a.jpg (http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight4.jpg)

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight5a.jpg (http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight5.jpg)

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight6a.jpg (http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight6.jpg)


P.S. You may notice the harness is missing. I took it out so I can test it, but it will go back on. This will be a plug and play mod.

nice! its even nicer since it looks completely oem. great job!

awesome job man.

omg plz sell this now!

Great idea! Maybe you can make one for us Box owners... :pray:

now thats the nicest version of this mod i ever seen for the tC!!!

now thats the nicest version of this mod i ever seen for the tC!!!

tell u show you did this!!! that looks great

Thanks!! I'm glad everyone likes it! ;)

nice!!!


now we need some better LED tails!

any price yet? could you make it any color? i kind of want the sides blue and to flash like i saw on some one elses post.. ( show purposes only of course).

very nice man! like it a lot

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ack154

What would the turn around time be? I'm very interested in this mod.

im def interested too!

keep us updated...

Seeing it on the tC is going to be the real treat. It already looks good though.

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ack154

I'm definately interested in this. Keep us updated, I'd love to see pics on the tC.

Just Awesome!!!

How much of a pain is it to remove that light to send?

How much of a pain is it to remove that light to send?


There are 4 bolts on the back of the 3rd brake light, and 1 harness plug.

That's tight!!

bump to be updated

will be doing blue very soon... how hard it it to install the switch and wires to turn on and off? forget the blinking part...

will be doing blue very soon... how hard it it to install the switch and wires to turn on and off? forget the blinking part...

I will set it up so all you have to do is wire a switch in-line with the extra wire I leave hanging from the lens, and ground.

Very very nice, please do us a favor and create some tailights to go with it.

nice ! still $80?

Very very nice, please do us a favor and create some tailights to go with it.

I/m actually working on an LED mod for the 3rd brake light and tail lights on the xb. of course, I'll also work on the tc tail lights.

nice ! still $80?

that's for the light done with no switch. If you want a switch, it'll be a bit more (not much, maybe $10 - $15 more).



Also, I have a special treat for everyone. I'll post some pics tomorrrow. I KNOW everyone will LOVE it!! heheheheheeeee...... :silly: :silly:

With the guage changes, are the needles accurate? That's my biggest concern!

With the guage changes, are the needles accurate? That's my biggest concern!

I put the needles in the exact location I remove them.


I've been working on that treat, and it looks so cool!! But I have to get some sleep. I have to drive to S.D. to pick up a motorcycle. :love:

hey if im going to be in fullerton in about two weeks would it be possible to meet with you and you take off my 3rd brake light?? cuz i dont know how hahaha ... just a question..

I have to say. I really like this mod. great job man!


Blinkers would be a neat trick to have in the brake instead of the tails.

Also, I have a special treat for everyone. I'll post some pics tomorrrow. I KNOW everyone will LOVE it!! heheheheheeeee...... :silly: :silly:

:nails:

well?

hey if im going to be in fullerton in about two weeks would it be possible to meet with you and you take off my 3rd brake light?? cuz i dont know how hahaha ... just a question..

Sure, that's no problem. Fullerton is about 15min away from me.

Okay guys (and girls), here is the cool part you have been wating for...


Plain red. okay.....

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakered1a.jpg (http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakered1.jpg)


Now changed to blue!

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakeblue1a.jpg (http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakeblue1.jpg)



Now changed to purple!

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakepurple1a.jpg (http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakepurple1.jpg)



pretty cool huh! I used bi-color LED's for this mod. So you can have a switch, and change the color of the lights!

I have blue/red, green/red, white/red, blue/white for bi-color LED's.

Sick work Blazer! My HVAC is on the way, but it looks like my 3rd brake light may follow next month. :bow:

how do we buy this? send the brake light to you and you send it back right. hoe do we send the money? paypal? also, i have a vinyl overlay on my third brake light, with you be able to do this without damaging it?

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WhiteBlazer, you are off the HOOK!!!!! It's just a shame that I will be sending half of my car!

ill be contacting you soon to have this mod done. is there anything i can trade you or your intrested in to lower the price?

Holy moly, I will definately be sending you my parts when I buy my tC !

Looks like some quality work there. Nice job.

What kind of time frame are we looking at here overall? (send you the light, work done, returned) I'm in chicago. I use my car daily and i'd really like to not get pulled over and have to make up a bs excuse as to where my extra light is... so the quicker the better.

ill be contacting you soon to have this mod done. is there anything i can trade you or your intrested in to lower the price?

Hmmm... I have been looking for some parts for a 2003/2004 Kawasaki ZX-6R. I would be willing to work out a deal if you have the parts I need.


Looks like some quality work there. Nice job.

What kind of time frame are we looking at here overall? (send you the light, work done, returned) I'm in chicago. I use my car daily and i'd really like to not get pulled over and have to make up a bs excuse as to where my extra light is... so the quicker the better.

My turnaround time for led gauges and such is 1 - 2 days (usually 1 day), but for the brake light, it will be 2 - 3 days.

i was thinkin more in lines of paintball or computer parts?

i was thinkin more in lines of paintball or computer parts? :pray:

:clap: PROPS :clap:
:ponder: Lemme get this straight though, we've got to send you our OEM light so you can mod it for $80? (<-- if so, would you consider modding & selling a brand new piece?) And how certain are you it won't leak moisture?
Don't mean to bug because this conversion you did kicks ___!, however i'm trying to keep my ride as stress free as possible.

any problems with led's going out? wiring short circuiting due to moisture? i know a few people that tried this mod had issues with those.

:bow: I love this mod. How much for the bi-color tail. I would like the Red & Blue. Also would the bi-color tail go all the way across or is it only in the middle?

hmm... if only i had about $200... i have an idea for using tri-color leds.. and some other things.... :lalala:...

i was thinkin more in lines of paintball or computer parts?

I have wireless D-Link 108G setup in my home, and I got the 20" Widescreen Dell LCD, so I think I'm set now.

As far as leaks, I seal the lens, then apply some silicone. If it passes my "dunk in water test" then you get it back. If it fails, well, then you still get it back (after I apply some more silicone).

any problems with led's going out? wiring short circuiting due to moisture? i know a few people that tried this mod had issues with those.

Not that I know of, but if it does leak, or go out, I will fix it.

hmm... if only i had about $200... i have an idea for using tri-color leds.. and some other things.... :lalala: ...

Sounds cool!

:clap: PROPS :clap:
:ponder: Lemme get this straight though, we've got to send you our OEM light so you can mod it for $80? (<-- if so, would you consider modding & selling a brand new piece?) And how certain are you it won't leak moisture?
Don't mean to bug because this conversion you did kicks butt!, however i'm trying to keep my ride as stress free as possible.

You are correct. You send me your OEM piece, and I mod it, and send it back. I don't mind selling a brand new piece, but that means me going to the dealer and buying one to mod (it would be $80 + the price of the lens).

As far as leaks, I seal the lens, then apply some silicone. If it passes my "dunk in water test" then you get it back. If it fails, well, then you still get it back (after I apply some more silicone).

Does any1 know how much the OEM 3rd brake light goes for? and what is the part number or weblink to a location that sells them?
Or how much would it cost for the whole thing to be done brand new?

3rd brake light from the dealer costs about $100. If you're lucky you can get one off a wrecked scion tc for less ($40 - $60). Most salvage yards won't let you buy only the third brake light unless the hatch is damaged because they're used to selling the whole rear hatch as one giant piece.

Hey Whiteblazer, where did you get 12000 mcd 120 degree superfluxes? I can only find 70 degree superfluxes at FutureElectronics.com.

Ed

I have them specially manufactured for me (really!). If you want some LED's, let me know, and I can send some your way.

I had some UV superflux LED's manufactured for me, and the are in stock. I got UV LED's made for the clock on the xb, I'm getting UV led's for the gauges, and I'm trying to get pink LED's made for the gauges (I know the girls would like these).

how do you get the 3rd brake light off? can you post pics for us? get a tech topic goin on how to remove it

What happen to the white/ red LED's?

What happen to the white/ red LED's?

oops! I have those too.

blue/red | green/red | white/red | blue/white



For the third brake light, there are 4 nuts holding the light on, but you have to take the plastic off from the hatch.

so you dremel cut the housing open right? how did u put it back togehter? what type of glue?

great job, will look into this after my HID retro

3rd brake light from the dealer costs about $100. If you're lucky you can get one off a wrecked scion tc for less ($40 - $60). Most salvage yards won't let you buy only the third brake light unless the hatch is damaged because they're used to selling the whole rear hatch as one giant piece.

Hey Whiteblazer, where did you get 12000 mcd 120 degree superfluxes? I can only find 70 degree superfluxes at FutureElectronics.com.

Ed

experienced that, i would find a picture of one that is broken, take that picture to them and say look, i dont' have my car with me becuase it isbroken, i took a picture of it! look! now gimmie! lol

so you dremel cut the housing open right? how did u put it back togehter? what type of glue?

great job, will look into this after my HID retro

I used a dremel to open it. I don't remember the dremel cut-off wheel number, but I'll post it for those interested.

As for putting it back, I used some plastic weld, then used some silicone.

sweet.. how much to do it man?

sweet.. how much to do it man?
if you read the thread... he's said it a few times already.

I got UV LED's made for the clock on the xb, I'm getting UV led's for the gauges, and I'm trying to get pink LED's made for the gauges (I know the girls would like these).
it's lightish red. :P.. :wink:

Can we see a pic of the light on the car? it looks awesome, also I'm thinking about having you do my guages. I've wanted them done forever.

Can we see a pic of the light on the car? it looks awesome, also I'm thinking about having you do my guages. I've wanted them done forever.

Sure, I'll take some pics for you. Also, where are you located? I am going to meet team ScionTific in Canoga Park on Sunday to do LED mods on a lot of their cars. If they are close to you, you should stop by, otherwise, I am in Tustin.

Good job! Looks really nice.

Can we see a pic of the light on the car? it looks awesome, also I'm thinking about having you do my guages. I've wanted them done forever.

Sure, I'll take some pics for you. Also, where are you located? I am going to meet team ScionTific in Canoga Park on Sunday to do LED mods on a lot of their cars. If they are close to you, you should stop by, otherwise, I am in Tustin.
where in Canoga are you going to be? I'm going to be in West Hills most of tomorrow.

^^^ e-mail me your phone number, and I'll call you. whiteblazer01@cox.net

how about super white led???

^^^ what about it?

Maybe its just my computer but I cant see any of the images hes posted.

its your computer your missing some plug-ins that allow to see file attachments.
i would like to do this mod, but when you say you need to cut it out with a dremel?? me + dremel Dont = anything nice. really not good with it

WhiteBazer01 and I hung out in the humid heat in SFV / 818 yesterday for our team LED workshop. We didn't intend to do 13hrs of work but (speaking for myself) I had learned a lot from Paul and enjoyed the knowledge he shared w/ us.

To any that NEED to do LEDs done by Paul, my suggestion is just do it....he's a perfectionist and the work performance is top notch. He finally took pix of the 1st tC w/ the 3rd brake light yesterDAY & yesterNITE and he should have pix up when he recoveres from lack of sleep.

There's also cool stuff for xBs coming in the near future. So xB owners make sure to check these pages for the new mods.

Quick question... on the bicolor LEDs... where have you been mounting the switch?

Thanks Ryan!


You can put the switch anywhere.


Here is 1 of the pics on the car.

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight13a.jpg

Hmmm... Could it be possible to use those multicolor LED's for the center console and gauges? I live in Bellflower man, and I'm so hyped to get this done... I tinted my third brake light with nightshades, and since that stuff has a red tint, I think the blue my show up a little funky. If so, I could just take it off with Nail Polish remover.

hmmm... its not impossible, but it will be very difficult. Very difficult. to the point where it would not be worth it. you wouldn't use these bi-color LED's, but they do have bi-color surface mount LED's.

As for your tinted 3rd brake light, you could try to remove it that way, but be careful not to mess up the lens.

What would you recommend to remove the nightshades?

you can try that nail polish remover, but start in a small test corner. If it works good, then use it. Otherwise, see if someone is willing to trade you for a stock lens.

hmm.. try laquer thinner and a cloth... just be careful with it.

Cool, after I get my Injen CAI this week, I'll take off the third brake light, clean off the nightshades, and be all set for this mod!

you can try that nail polish remover, but start in a small test corner. If it works good, then use it. Otherwise, see if someone is willing to trade you for a stock lens.

NO! no nail polish remover...PLEASE! this'll end up frosting your lenses.
TRY Goof-OFF!! READ instructions before doing ANYTHING! it supposed to
work on plastics really well....from what I remember. :lalala:

Is it just me or do the middle two LED's on the original LED bar look brighter than the two sets of two LED's on the ends of the original light bar?

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight3a.jpg

Is that because of the way the LED's are all wired? Or is it some sort of "angle" thing?

I agree, but it might jsut be the camera.

Does anyone have any pics with it installed?

It is a little brighter because of the reflection on the metal board behind the stock LED's.

Here is a night shot on the car.

http://www.ledmods.net/images/tc3rdbrakelight13a.jpg

Can we see a pic of the light on the car? it looks awesome, also I'm thinking about having you do my guages. I've wanted them done forever.

Sure, I'll take some pics for you. Also, where are you located? I am going to meet team ScionTific in Canoga Park on Sunday to do LED mods on a lot of their cars. If they are close to you, you should stop by, otherwise, I am in Tustin.
Hey, sorry I missed it, how often do you guys all meet up? When's the next meeting? I'd love to cruise out.

That was pretty much a one time thing. Sorry.

Bump! :D

Keepin the mod alive....

Damn you and I will defenetly need to hook up when I go on leave bro. I wil have alot of your work on my car soon!!

Damn you and I will defenetly need to hook up when I go on leave bro. I wil have alot of your work on my car soon!!

Sounds good! Keep an eye on my site, I'll be adding new stuff.....

Did you get the red-orange LED, same wavelength at the stock SnapLED??

Did you get the red-orange LED, same wavelength at the stock SnapLED??

Whats up Dooly! :D

I have 625nm Superflux LED's. No snap LED's, custom made PCB board.

Once I figure out how to work driving around without a 3rd brake light I'm gonna need some more info about where to send it and all that.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=158645
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=137316
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=163853