I'll start off by saying i own a 2000 Celica GTS 6spd so i'll use that as comparison

I love the TC, and i will be trading my celica in on one. But there was a couple things i didn't care for too much, but not enough to sway me from the deal.

Steering wheel looked kinda cheap.. had a rubber type material on it?

Sunroof covers are a flappy rubber material.. and i saw gaps between the cover and the roof so sunlight will still creep in during the day.. might get annoying since it doesn't seal perfectly.

Gauges.. nothing really wrong with them.. but the do seem a little small to me.. probably just a personal preference.. they just kinda look like baby gauges haha.. Also, the gauges light up kinda yellowish at night.. maybe its just me but i'm not real fond of that color.. i like classic dark amber or green..

Trunk space.. from the pictures it looks like the trunk is bigger than it is.. atleast for me it did. The trunk is not very deep at all.. i don't usually haul stuff so its not a big problem.

Other than those things, the exterior is awesome, wheels look great.. Also, i'm 6'3 and i had plenty of head room, after i reclined the driver seat a little bit. I sat in the back and reclined the seats and head plenty of head room too. The car was an auto so i didn't take it for a test drive since i'll be looking for a 5spd. The stock speakers were a little weak also i thought. Ok enough rambling =o) Can't wait to get mine.

I think it is a leather wrap steering wheel...

awesome. just wondering though, why are you getting rid of your 6spd? i too have a celica.. but an auto gt. the 5spd tc would be a great upgrade for me atleast.

Yeah, I would keep the Celica since Toyota is stopping production in next couple of years. Will become a classic....

Kevin

I think the stock speakers leave a LOT to be desired. Honestly, and maybe this is just my perception but I think my 98 cavalier had a better steroe than the TC. Maybe I'm just losing my mind, but the steroe went from low priority to high priority in mods & I haven't even had the car a week.

The steroe sound is my biggest dissapointment with the TC.

Whew... And I was thinking about upgrading to 6 cd changer :x

I really want one of those flashy color systems that you can take the face off... The stock one looks boring... (Obviously I'm clueless about sound systems)... But if I do go with that... I'll be replacing the stock speakers as well ;p

toyota speakers have always been crap

toyota speakers have always been crap

Not only Toyota but ever car has a terrible system unless you get into the elite class of cars. But I don't think Scion was going to put in a $1000 stereo system and try to keep the base cost low. However, I wish we could get a cheaper price and have the tC come with NO HU or speakers. Then we install our own system.

Kevin

Toyota really should start using Bose :)

I thought the system soudned fair...a Lot better than most people haev said. I thought it was going to sound just horrible. I guess when I had my ZR2 for a year, that sounded horrible.

I also have a Camaro with the stock Bose system in it (although, upgraded CD player....Pioneer actually) and that sounds great.

toyota speakers have always been crap

Not only Toyota but ever car has a terrible system unless you get into the elite class of cars. But I don't think Scion was going to put in a $1000 stereo system and try to keep the base cost low. However, I wish we could get a cheaper price and have the tC come with NO HU or speakers. Then we install our own system.

Kevin


i have an accord and parents have a camry and highlander... the speakers/hu in the accord is MANY times better than those in the camry and highlander...

Toyota speakers are much better than my dad's 2004 Dodge Grand Caravan... But my mom has a Lexus 2000 ES 300, so I wouldn't say something bad about them. It would be much better if Scion can have JBL speakers as well.

Also, i'm 6'3 and i had plenty of head room, after i reclined the driver seat a little bit. I sat in the back and reclined the seats and head plenty of head room too. The car was an auto so i didn't take it for a test drive since i'll be looking for a 5spd. The stock speakers were a little weak also i thought. Ok enough rambling =o) Can't wait to get mine.

Ya right! you have never sat in a xB have you? sat in a tC fpr the first time yesterday-NO THANKS!!- its like sitting in a cockpit!! - and i had to recline the seat at 45 degree angle to fit in ( im 6'-3" also)- the interior is just as cheap as the xB ( fabric and dash material) - the only thing i love about it is the exterior looks..... I guess comming from a Celica though, your probably used to it-

Ya right! you have never sat in a xB have you? sat in a tC fpr the first time yesterday-NO THANKS!!- its like sitting in a cockpit!! - and i had to recline the seat at 45 degree angle to fit in ( im 6'-3" also)- the interior is just as cheap as the xB ( fabric and dash material) - the only thing i love about it is the exterior looks..... I guess comming from a Celica though, your probably used to it-
sheesh...why so harsh?? Everyone's different, maybe you have a longer torso than he does. No need to be so mean about it.

Toyota really should start using Bose :)
Bose is crap.

Especially if you go to put in AF stereo+speakers.
You will spend a day ripping out bose stuff, or getting cussed by the Best Buy installers for putting them through the task.

Ah, who needs a radio/stereo... my favorite tunes are playing out the exhaust pipe 8) 8) 8)

Toyota really should start using Bose :)

"BOSE, NO HIGHS NO LOWS"

Im not being mean about it- I was just expecting the tC to be a little bigger- like Camry Solara size- Once in person- It looks the size of a Civic Coupe...

Im just Sick of people drooling over this car ( not this thread in particular)- and they cant even fit in it!- IMO- its just as cramped as a Celica...

Im not being mean about it- I was just expecting the tC to be a little bigger- like Camry Solara size- Once in person- It looks the size of a Civic Coupe...

Im just Sick of people drooling over this car ( not this thread in particular)- and they cant even fit in it!- IMO- its just as cramped as a Celica...

you do realize that it's a sport compact and not a mid-size vehicle right? :roll:

I do now that ive seen it in person!!

I think the tc is the appropriate size for a compact sports car

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I think the tc is the appropriate size for a compact sports car

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I thought it do be a bit tall for one.

on the gauges, i dont like how the tach is small and on the right. if you're making a left or right turn, the wheel is turned such that its totally obstructed. its kinda annoying.

I agree. the Stock tC stereo system is weak. With the Factory settings. if you change the SSP to Feel and the change the setting to XA (by holding down the SSP button) The stereo system is much better. I don't know if you test drove the tC on these settings but after changing it a bit the tC stereo system is Fine. I personally am cool with "If i can hear it and it sounds good. I'm happy" I really don't want people 10 car lengths behind me to hear my music. As for the interior. Compared to say the Corolla (any trim) civics and other cars in its class the tC's interior is very nice and has subtle enhancements (I personally like the textured dash etc, and the cloth fabric although cloth seem to be a high quality cloth)

In all honesty is sounds stupid but I always had a hard time getting in and out of the new Celica , I was forever slammin my knees into the wheel no matter how I had it set and getting out of the damn thing I practically fell out of it . only car I know of off hand thats worse then the Celica for me getting in and out of is the MR2 Spyder . As for the Tc its easier to get in and out of by far in comparison to the three .

And yes the Tc has a leather wrapped steering wheel . although I do agree the center piece does look a bit on the cheap side but something I can deal with .

I'll start off by saying i own a 2000 Celica GTS 6spd so i'll use that as comparison

I love the TC, and i will be trading my celica in on one. But there was a couple things i didn't care for too much, but not enough to sway me from the deal.

Steering wheel looked kinda cheap.. had a rubber type material on it?

Sunroof covers are a flappy rubber material.. and i saw gaps between the cover and the roof so sunlight will still creep in during the day.. might get annoying since it doesn't seal perfectly.

Gauges.. nothing really wrong with them.. but the do seem a little small to me.. probably just a personal preference.. they just kinda look like baby gauges haha.. Also, the gauges light up kinda yellowish at night.. maybe its just me but i'm not real fond of that color.. i like classic dark amber or green..

Trunk space.. from the pictures it looks like the trunk is bigger than it is.. atleast for me it did. The trunk is not very deep at all.. i don't usually haul stuff so its not a big problem.

Other than those things, the exterior is awesome, wheels look great.. Also, i'm 6'3 and i had plenty of head room, after i reclined the driver seat a little bit. I sat in the back and reclined the seats and head plenty of head room too. The car was an auto so i didn't take it for a test drive since i'll be looking for a 5spd. The stock speakers were a little weak also i thought. Ok enough rambling =o) Can't wait to get mine.

The trunk is actually larger than it looks. I can always fit all of my groceries in it, and I gaurantee that you will have a hard time finding a comparable sized car with as much cargo space when the back seats are down. I moved using it, and I will say I was amazed at what I could fit in there!

I love the gauges, I hate the giant ones in some cars, but that is just my preference. The guages are a traditional dark amber stock. But, if you want them changed, there is a plenty of info on here about how to do it... or if you dont like soldering surface mount parts.. I also do them for people :D

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/engifineer/173-7334_IMG.jpg

But, enjoy your new car! I know I have loved mine since I bought it last year.

Toyota really should start using Bose :)

My friend has the RSX S-Type and they use a BOSE Audio System. From what I heard the sound is even worse then Scion's sound system. Iono maybe it's just me.

Im not being mean about it- I was just expecting the tC to be a little bigger- like Camry Solara size- Once in person- It looks the size of a Civic Coupe...

Im just Sick of people drooling over this car ( not this thread in particular)- and they cant even fit in it!- IMO- its just as cramped as a Celica...

It is no where near as cramped as a celica! I have owned a cavalier, a mustang and still own a saturn to mention a few of the smaller ones I have owned, and the tC beats them all by a longshot on space. My taller friends all comment on how roomy the back seat is for being a compact car. If it was bigger I would not have even considered buying it. I would have just bought the camry if I wanted larger.

Also, i'm 6'3 and i had plenty of head room, after i reclined the driver seat a little bit. I sat in the back and reclined the seats and head plenty of head room too. The car was an auto so i didn't take it for a test drive since i'll be looking for a 5spd. The stock speakers were a little weak also i thought. Ok enough rambling =o) Can't wait to get mine.

Ya right! you have never sat in a xB have you? sat in a tC fpr the first time yesterday-NO THANKS!!- its like sitting in a cockpit!! - and i had to recline the seat at 45 degree angle to fit in ( im 6'-3" also)- the interior is just as cheap as the xB ( fabric and dash material) - the only thing i love about it is the exterior looks..... I guess comming from a Celica though, your probably used to it-

The xb dash is nothing like the tC. And the size comparison is kinda off there... the xB is a minivan, not a compact car, so of course it will have more room.

My friend is 6'2" and has no issues whatsoever in the front seat. As I mentioned, it is huge compared to any celica I have been in.

Toyota really should start using Bose :)

My friend has the RSX S-Type and they use a BOSE Audio System. From what I heard the sound is even worse then Scion's sound system. Iono maybe it's just me.

Yep, BOSE makes some very nice home audio, but I have never been impressed with their car stuff. But, the tC system is better than many I have heard stock... many people complain that it is nothing compared to the system they put in their last car.... and my response is "no sh#t!!". It is a stock system. But it does well for stock. When listening to alternative/rock is actually does very well.