I have a question for anyone with the H&R coilovers installed. I recently installed them this past weekend and have minor sping type noise in the front when turning at low speeds. I just wanted to see if anyone else had something like this. I am currently not dropped more than the default 1inch, and have no plans to do more than 1.5. I also have the hotchkis front, rear sway bar, and the DC sport front stut bar.

I am wondering if it is just the combination of the two spings in the front adjusting a little as it turns.

Any thoughts?

 

i bet the front sway is hitting something....

 

Even with no major drop? Its barely an inch under stock at the moment... Does not sound like that sounds more like a spring (toing) type sound not a thunk or metal on metal sound.

 

rofl, your car goes toing like a spring? lol, that's so custom...i'd rock that like crazy! lol

 

LOL, its not bad, but strange... I also measured it and so far Im not even at a inch drop.

I also checked and the front sway bar is not hitting anything.

Any ideas?

 

Any other thoughts on this? it still does it and at this point I think it is normal due to the dual spings in the front. They twist a little as you turn the car due to the layout of the from suspension. Anyone else have theses?

On a side note I can say that my mods have paid off I just got back from a track day at mid ohio, and WOW what an improvement. Now its time to get an exhaust.

 

as far as the sound goes, just have someone turn the wheel while you are down there staring at the suspension . you should be able to get an idea what it is that way.

 

With no experience on the Tc I have heard that is common with pillow ball upper mounts on coil overs. I would bet the H&R coil overs have pillow ball uppermounts and the sound should be normal at low speeds. I have also had a thunking noise that DID turn out to be a lose front sway but that was at speed turning kind of fast.

 

Correct me if im wrong but i thought that if you have pillowball mounts that it prevents the spring frm moving or twisting at all. If you have to reuse the stock upper mount, the spring can move or twist alittle. Im pretty sure this is correct but do not know if the coilovers you got reuse the stock mount or come pre-assembled like the Teins do with the pillowball mounts.

 

all pillow mounts do is allow camber correction and replace the rubber bushing with a sperical bearing. does not change the way the spring is held in place.

 

The H&Rs do resuse the stock mounts, and I have sat down by the tire with it turning and it appears to just be spring noise. Nothing else is hitting or rubbing so I think its ok. I jsut ran a track day at mid ohio and had no other issues they seem to work great other than a bit of noise at parking speeds.

 

2redgerm6,

Im pretty sure the pillowball mounts do more than just allow camber correction.

Heres a quote from another website that i found this info on:

"The Tien upper shock mounts feature an all-aluminum construction, mounting the shock shaft by means of a single spherical bearing instead of a big, squishy biscuit of soft rubber. This makes every bit of suspension motion go through the damper instead of having undamped travel due to the flexing the upper mount. On some cars this flex can be as much as one inch up and down--not good considering that this is uncontrolled wheel motion. "

I hope all this helps and kyle i wouldnt worry about that noise unless it gets worse and a lot louder

 

Thanks and im not,Im very happy with them. Nice ride and the handling is amazing.

 

i didn't just say they only allow camber correction. i also said it uses a spherical bearing instead of the rubber bushing. there are 2 sentences there, thank you.

 

he was referring to a spring noise and i was telling him that a stock or after market upper mount should not be the cause of spring noise.

 

The spring on a coilover (at least the teins) is not attached to the upper mount at all, It sits on a metal ring that sits below the mount. On the stock ones the spring sits against the uppermount. This is what give the biggest difference in feeling and handling for the car because the suspension motion go more through the damper instead of through the mount and into the car.

When i had my matrix before, I had tein sprins on stock struts. The problem i would have would be that the spring would love to rotate a bit in the stock upper mount. The rubber piece that sat between the spring and the uppermount would slide a bit and cause a weird noise only when i turned the car in a certain direction. With the tein coilovers, i tried to rotate the spring inside the mount, even off the car and it was really hard to do. The noise could be many of things. Maybe something isnt as tight as it should be?? I have had no noises at all from my tein SS-P's.

 

Thanks for the ideas, but these are a little different. The fronts have 2 spings, and the noise seems to come from them together when turing at slow speeds. I can say everything is tight and has been checked multiple times. I think this is just cause by the design and not a bad one but just a after effect. I can say on the track they are amazing. I am actually going to have to lossen the front sway bar up a little to reduce pushing. All in all im happy and this thread has proven that it is a normal sound for these coil overs.

From http://www.hrsprings.com

 

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with coilovers the springs are not held with the factory rubbber upper mount they rest on a flat piece of aluminum just like with upper pillow mounts the rubber factory mount is only used to mount to the vehicle and to aply pressure to the coilovers so they don't slip off the perch. have you ever had or helped anyone install coilovers?

 

Dude that is what i said. Your just repeating what i typed. Ive installed my coilovers, my friends, other friends springs, etc... I know how they work and are setup.

The main thing im trying to state is that with proper coilovers, there should be no reason for the spring to move or rotate at all. Allthough in this case with the H&R having 2 springs, there could be a possibility. The Tein SS-P's that i have are real sturdy and make no noises or movements at all.

How long have you had the coilovers installed for kyle???