I am about to buy black xa "basic" Manual Trans........ i was today by toyota and the price on it is 12.995 NOW + tax and reg title fee "shi7" cost about $14020


What do you think would i pay too much ?

Oh btw its 2005 15miles on it .........

sounds about right

:( i want to get it cheaper hahahaha


i always buy cars cheaper then the price they put on :)

but the lady there told me there is no hasle ....... :(
so i tought to get them to pay the taxes lol :lol:

I'm not getting the basic model simply because there are some things I don't want to mess with.

After fees, gap insurance, and sales tax I'm looking at 17,600.

That includes the silver/grey accent package, cold air induction, strut tie bar, cruise control, carpet mats, cargo liner, keyless entry, and in indigo ink pearl.

I'm going to have the windows tinted, custom wheels put on, and put a 12" single sub in for the time being. So I'm looking at about another $1,000 for the vehicle right after I get it saving almost 400-500$ than what the dealer would have charged.

I'm happy with what I'm getting, with a $2,000 down payment I'm looking at about 280-290$ monthly payments. And with that taken out of my paycheck I don't even see it :)

i got same for 14 000 btw the more thing'z you put from manufacturer you will pay more money then usualy ........


Go to ebay and check the prices on whatever you extra purchase with that car i bet you will pay less money.......


"just an opinion" :roll:

if thats the price on the window, thats gonna be the price you pay. simple/easy :)

There are some things I'm not worried about paying a little more for even if I can get it much cheaper elsewhere.

I have never put a CAI system or strut bar on my car, I figure I'll let them get away with those two items. The other stuff is just minor items.

if thats the price on the window, thats gonna be the price you pay. simple/easy :)

yeah the price on the window is 12.995 :)
i want to pay that price but now tax and feez 1000 ca. ...........isn't that lil too much ? hahahahaha :twisted:

I paid approx. 13,800. Basice XA with Auto. That was the sticker, that is what I paid.

The tax is easy to figure out. Can't get away from paying sales tax.

Hm,,,,,,, OK .,..........what about this!!!!

the car that they want to give me had no cd in there at all looks like they broke it ..........schoudn't they lower their price even if its repaired?



I have couple more hours to buy that car ............:)

i will schow you pictures tomorow ...................

anyway i am very grateful for the all replays that i get on herrr ......

any more ? please post it ..........i might regret it for paying 14000 :oops:

aiight everyone lets be serious with this guy...ok first off where else can you buy a car like this under $15k..second how many cars can you get in general for under $15k.. and third why would you complain about a car that costs under $15k.. the reason why there is cd player is because the cars are shipped w/out one..so nothing broken..any other complaints..oh and by the way even if the did have the ability to dicount these cars theres only about $500 in mark up anyway..not a real big savings!!!

sorry for being harsh but im sooo tired of people trying to negotiate these cars..things cost money for a reason..pay up or buy a used car..then you can negotiate on something thats already lost value

ok true true aha yeah rich boy .........


first of all: can u give me 500$ just like that? NO !

second of all: Dealers are DEALERS and we are Customers "business "
in order to sell a car you WILL give some discount but still get money from that Customer

third of all:Yes i can buy car cheaper then 15k may not be 2005 :)

And for your information the CD PLAYER-mp3 was already In the car they said they took it a part because they need it for another car by doing that they broke the dash trim .....

So dont be a smart one i am just asking if some1 got the same care for cheaper deal then 14000 manual nothing alse..........

i belive you are one of the dealers arent you ?

sorry to be harsh too but i still belive that i have right's to ask if some1 got cheper then i can get ......the reason why is "because i never bought a car in FULL price i always lower it for 1000-1500$ min!" i was a delear in germany .............

i think all the prices are pretty much the same because it's suppose to be "no haggle pricing". however, i don't know why it still takes so long to close a deal. i figure, 15 minutes for test drive and 45 minutes to sign all paperwork should be sufficient enough.

i payed 15.5 with extended warrenty 100k mile one or i would have paid 14.4

Yoooooooooooooooooooo i bought a car ok this is what i got

12.995 at dealer ship + tax 650.ca with 3 years warranty or 60 000

they put wing on it and cd changer "that was a deal" the car is basic.....


As i know even if its new car you ALLWAYS schould hasle with them
i hasle for 5 days! every day i went ther say man i really like to have that car but still the price is too much ....

on 4th day i said i will go to my bank get the check come here for amount you ask but you will have to give me cd changer + wing ........... they said NO ........
today i went to my bank finance it 4.75% get to dealer ship show them the check that they could recive ...........

belive me they took it ! :)

allways allways hasle if you dont you loose min. of 200-500$

if you were able to get a dealership to throw anything in i believe that goes against the Scion rules..so more power to you..the way i look at it is..these cars are so hot right now that if you dont want it great the next guy will so why would i want to loose money on a low profit sale..doesnt make sense, but good job none the less

Of course you would say that Dan! :D

Of course, I didnt feel screwed on pricing the way a lot of dealerships do ya... they order all sorts of crap and "thats just what we have" vehicles... I tried to haggle my way to a Mazda 3- and those jerks wouldnt budge.

What exactly is the profit margin on each of the three Scions? if its only $500... then man, thats like low profits... at least for most car dealerships.

i am glad if they give me SOME deal then straight full price with nothing .....i am even glad if they give me 20 $ to fill up my gas :) hahahahahhahahh

:lol:

aaron realistically these cars do have that little bit if profit in them..once they've gone through the shop and detail..the cars are not money makers, they are volume leaders..we sell so many it keeps the numbers high..ive sold many cars for full value in the past..and you know what my happiest customers are the ones who spent the most , its the ones who beat ya up that never think they got a good deal..go figure!!!

on a funny note if you think $500 is low...for every Cavalier that gets sold, GM looses $60 per car...so they are actually better off not shipping them to the dealers

The older cavaliers were better... i had a buddy flip his, knock out all the drivers side windows on impact, flatten both front tires, and then drive it to Sears to get fixed.

I was talking to a friend who just got back into selling cars.

He was saying that nobody is making on the vehicle itself anymore, that's why financing is pushed so much. I know they weren't making money off the financing when everything was 0%, but they knew that wasn't going to last, they wanted to get the vehicles off the lots.

Why do you think GMAC is practically GMs cash cow now? It's not the vehicles, it's the financing.

Oh and iglcrair--nice one on the indigo ink pearl xA! I should have mine by the end of the weeeeeeeeeeeek yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaah boooooooooooiiiiiiii!!!!!!!

cool i am glad to hear that xA rock'zzzzzzzzzz

I've read and read to really see if everyone is paying sticker price. I just find it hard to pay sticker price on a vehicle. Aftrer all I've read the biggest discount I've seen off the MSRP is a whole $14. I don't mind paying sticker if all dealers are sticking to the "na haggle" buying. I'm curious about the other fees such as destination charge, paper fees, etc...... $400+ to get the car to the dealership is a ripoff! Also, I noticed the local dealer has a charge for "Full tank of gas".

What other fees are you guys paying since there is NO bargaining of the sticker price?? I'm selling my 93 Civic w/ GSR motor next Monday to get an Xa. I can't wait to have a nice riding, quiet, A/C blowing ride. Of course this thing is a turtle compared to the Civic I drove, but Ihave no need for speed on the streets.

The no haggling is true for all buyers at that particular dealership - everyone must be able to buy a particular vehicle and any or all options at the same posted price. So, each dealer can charge a higher price - they just have to do so for all those that want it from that dealership on that day.

In your area, each dealership will have the same base price, transportation fees and the same taxes and registration. But, they can order base models and then add their own "aftermarket" items, such as non-Scion remote entry/ security systems. As long as they offer those all at the same price for all customers. This gives them a fair amount of lee-way on installing what the customer wants. Or they can offer port-installed options such as radios and security systems, but then they may have vehicles with options that somebody doesn't want. All of these also must be at the same price for each customer. After-market dealer-installed options probably give the dealer a better chance to make a few extra dollars.

And then, documentation fees. Sort-of "handling" fees added onto shipping fees when you buy something online. Some folks really stick it to you, some are very reasonable. But each dealer can have this at any price they want, as long as all customers get stuck with the same amount. $100 to $200 sounds reasonable.

Bottom line - From dealer to dealer, price may vary by a hundred to a few hundred for a base model, but may vary by more when more options are added, depending on how a dealship handles the installationof them.

This is what I've gathered from the forums and from the easy purchase we had from KJScion in Springfield VA, whose cliffy1 is active on this site. Hopefully haven't put out any bogus info.

And no, your AC blowing ride is not going to be overwhelming! They need to still work on this. We have a 2005 xA that should have the latest TSB on the AC already incorporated, and my '96 Passat, which has NEVER had any AC work done to it, including freon-recharging, is twice as cold. But, my wife is used to the AC on our '94 Grand Caravan ES, and that takes forever to cool, so she's still happy with the xA.

not to be a troll or anything, but you CAN get another car for under $15k that stacks up superior in almost everyway to the xA.

while i'm waiting for my xA to arrive, my main car is a hyundai elantra GT. let me tell you, this car is WAY underrated. 138hp vvt engine, full leather seating, kenwood six-speaker CD/mp3, a/c, cruise, fog lights, power everything, side airbags, alarm with keyless, alloy rims with michelin mxv4 energy's 195/60-15, multi-link rear suspension, center armrest with dual storage, and the list goes on.

i test drove the xA and felt it was a step down in several ways, but i'm not knocking it. i want one simply because i like the styling and i want a commuter that gets close to 40MPG, which my elantra GT can't match.

just pointing out that there ARE other cars out there for $15k that are quite good. you can get all the above for UNDER $15k easily.

And no, your AC blowing ride is not going to be overwhelming!

This is someone who is coming from a Civic w/ NO A/C in 100 degree weather the last 2 years. When I test drove the Xa I was amazed by the A/C :P

Thanks for the info none the less!!

Yes, you can get under $15k cars, but very few are 5-door "cute" cars. You know what I mean - the xA and Mini-Cooper are "cute", though some would also say that of the 4-door Beetle. And, Toyota has the magically quality ring to it that Scion hangs it's hat on.

Almost any car on the planet should be able to reach 100K in a couple of long-distance driving years with minimal maintenance. With optimal maintenance, most cars should be able to easily do twice that even with hard city driving and many years of it. Despite Hyundai's admirable warranty and obvious attention to quality, the jury is still out on longevity of their vehicles. A friend was just telling me a story of a rental agency that had a one year contract with Hyundai and they dropped them after a year because they couldn't make any money renting them - they were always in the shop being repaired.

With the low-end Chevy Aveo being a rebadged Daewoo (meant to compete with a Kia Rio), it is not in the same category really as the xA and a cheaper cost reflects this. The Pontiac Vibe actually costs more than the xA but being a Pontiac probably has more liklihood of a price break from finance deals and rebates and haggling. But it is not a Toyota. Mini-Coopers are more expensive. Toyota Echos get competition with the xA and, like my wife said, th xA is cute and she had no interest in the Echo or a base Corolla. Never even looked at a Suzuki Aerio SX with 13999 MSRP after $1500 rebate. Toyota is what we wanted, and Scion xA delivered it with a final price of $15300 with side air bags and ABS. Cool.

Well, could be cooler - AC is not as good as it could.

Also, obviously xA aren't for everyone either - xBs outselling them what, 2 to 1?

i agree mostly with that assessment; i also stated above that i'm going to be an xA owner myself. i agree it's got the "cute" euro factor that is part of the reason i want it. the legendary toyota quality is icing on the cake. but you are still paying for that quality reputation. if hyundai sold the same car (say, an accent with the "cute" xA body), it would sell in the ballpark of $11k instead of $13k.

my point was just to make people aware that there are other cars that cost less than the xA that are quite viable competitors, the elantra GT being my most obvious example since i own one. another interesting point is that the resale value of this model is really holding up after a couple of years, another indication of hyundai's improved long term reliability. granted, i'm a little concerned about how well my EGT will hold up once i rack up 100k on it. i wasn't particularly a hyundai fan before i got it. but put it this way: i paid $13.8k for it new, i don't have to worry about out-of-pocket expenses for years, and when i step out of the xA and into the EGT, i feel like i'm stepping into a car that FEELS like it should cost twice as much as the xA. or, put another way, once i lived with my EGT for a while and began to appreciate all it offers, i began to feel like i almost "ripped off" hyundai for getting such a great car for teh price. i don't predict i'm going to feel that way after owning the xA.

as far as the mini, although definitely having the "cute" factor, i would not place it in the same league as toyota/scion as far as reliability; check any mini forum, they are subject to very serious and expensive failures. just because it's parent company is BMW, it's still made in england, many of its parts are non-BMW, and it is known to have lots of reliability problems.

Just wanted to post 2 quotes I received today via internet....

Year: 2005
Make: cion (should be Scion duh!)
Model: xA
Body Style: 5 Door XA - Automatic
Additional Options/Accessories Include: Carpet Mats
Your Internet Sale Price $ 13,111.00
Doc Fee $ 35.00
Lemon Law Fee $ 3.00
Your Total Cost (Plus applicable Sales and County taxes.) $13,149.00

Year: 2005
Make: Scion
Model: xA
Body Style: 5dr Auto
Additional Options/Accessories Include: Carpet Mats
Your Internet Sale Price $ 13,911.00
Tag/Title Fee $ 45.00
Doc Fee $ 299.00
Your Total Cost (Plus applicable Sales and County taxes.) $14,255.00

Can someone please explain how the same car which is suppose to have a "SET" price across the land has over a $1,000 difference between 2 dealer quotes???

One of the dealers is out of state, but HELL YEAH I will make the drive if the other can not get closer to the lower price. Is there anything special I will have to do when buying my Scion from another state?

Thanks!