Nology Hotwires
Do you guys think these wires improve performance I mean I have them on my car because they look nice and every little bit counts. They are supposed to be capacitated wires so the spark is supposed to be stronger and cleaner. But these cars have direct ignition coils which are the best you can get. What are your opinions on them?
If it were a standard coil setup and you had the nology plug and wire setup, I would say trash it immediately unless you plan on buying a new coil pack soon.
But for our application, what scott said above is true
But I am just going by the theory of design.. I cant speak to the quality of the wires themselves. If they are not up to par, then you could have issues, but I dont know how well they are built.
On this car I would never touch the ignition components. Toyota did a great job on them. Other than changing the temp of the plugs a bit (and still keeping denso's) for a turbo setup there is not much to improve on. Coil on plug and denso iridiums make for a very nice system. And one of the benefits of coil on plug ignition is a very low chance of your wires wearing out or insulation breaking down since you are transmitting low voltage to the coils on the plugs. So 'beefing' up the wires isnt a real concern either.
And thier theory of operation for thier regular hotwires is humorous to me.. unless they are greatly cutting out the info they provide. A capacitor by itself does not "store the charge until the ionization point". It resists dc almost perfectly and works as a high pass filter. So it basically "filters" the signal to provide a sharper response, not a more intense response. The reason they dont recommend using resistor plugs with thier application is more likely because of the effect it has on the RC time constant. If it is in parallel with the plug (as it must be taking into consideration what I just explained) then it is doing no more than what a large cap on your audio system does. So, at the right capacitance it is probably holding some charge between ignition points, so that the threshold voltage across the plug is met sooner during iginition, meaning it will fire quicker. That is about it. The other thing though, is that it conversly would be rounding off the top of the spike due to the fact it is filtering some of the high frequency component to ground.
Either way I would expect little to no effect on a standard setup, and zero effect on our setup other than looks. Just my .02 though
But for our application, what scott said above is true
But I am just going by the theory of design.. I cant speak to the quality of the wires themselves. If they are not up to par, then you could have issues, but I dont know how well they are built.
On this car I would never touch the ignition components. Toyota did a great job on them. Other than changing the temp of the plugs a bit (and still keeping denso's) for a turbo setup there is not much to improve on. Coil on plug and denso iridiums make for a very nice system. And one of the benefits of coil on plug ignition is a very low chance of your wires wearing out or insulation breaking down since you are transmitting low voltage to the coils on the plugs. So 'beefing' up the wires isnt a real concern either.
And thier theory of operation for thier regular hotwires is humorous to me.. unless they are greatly cutting out the info they provide. A capacitor by itself does not "store the charge until the ionization point". It resists dc almost perfectly and works as a high pass filter. So it basically "filters" the signal to provide a sharper response, not a more intense response. The reason they dont recommend using resistor plugs with thier application is more likely because of the effect it has on the RC time constant. If it is in parallel with the plug (as it must be taking into consideration what I just explained) then it is doing no more than what a large cap on your audio system does. So, at the right capacitance it is probably holding some charge between ignition points, so that the threshold voltage across the plug is met sooner during iginition, meaning it will fire quicker. That is about it. The other thing though, is that it conversly would be rounding off the top of the spike due to the fact it is filtering some of the high frequency component to ground.
Either way I would expect little to no effect on a standard setup, and zero effect on our setup other than looks. Just my .02 though
Originally Posted by engifineer
If it were a standard coil setup and you had the nology plug and wire setup, I would say trash it immediately unless you plan on buying a new coil pack soon.
But for our application, what scott said above is true
But I am just going by the theory of design.. I cant speak to the quality of the wires themselves. If they are not up to par, then you could have issues, but I dont know how well they are built.
On this car I would never touch the ignition components. Toyota did a great job on them. Other than changing the temp of the plugs a bit (and still keeping denso's) for a turbo setup there is not much to improve on. Coil on plug and denso iridiums make for a very nice system. And one of the benefits of coil on plug ignition is a very low chance of your wires wearing out or insulation breaking down since you are
transmitting low voltage to the coils on the plugs. So 'beefing' up the wires isnt a real concern either.
And thier theory of operation for thier regular hotwires is humorous to me.. unless they are greatly cutting out the info they provide. A capacitor by itself does not "store the charge until the ionization point". It resists dc almost perfectly and works as a high pass filter. So it basically "filters" the signal to provide a sharper response, not a more intense response. The reason they dont recommend using resistor plugs with thier application is more likely because of the effect it has on the RC time constant. If it is in parallel with the plug (as it must be taking into consideration what I just explained) then it is doing no more than what a large cap on your audio system does. So, at the right capacitance it is probably holding some charge between ignition points, so that the threshold voltage across the plug is met sooner during iginition, meaning it will fire quicker. That is about it. The other thing though, is that it conversly would be rounding off the top of the spike due to the fact it is filtering some of the high frequency component to ground.
Either way I would expect little to no effect on a standard setup, and zero effect on our setup other than looks. Just my .02 though
But for our application, what scott said above is true
But I am just going by the theory of design.. I cant speak to the quality of the wires themselves. If they are not up to par, then you could have issues, but I dont know how well they are built.
On this car I would never touch the ignition components. Toyota did a great job on them. Other than changing the temp of the plugs a bit (and still keeping denso's) for a turbo setup there is not much to improve on. Coil on plug and denso iridiums make for a very nice system. And one of the benefits of coil on plug ignition is a very low chance of your wires wearing out or insulation breaking down since you are
transmitting low voltage to the coils on the plugs. So 'beefing' up the wires isnt a real concern either.
And thier theory of operation for thier regular hotwires is humorous to me.. unless they are greatly cutting out the info they provide. A capacitor by itself does not "store the charge until the ionization point". It resists dc almost perfectly and works as a high pass filter. So it basically "filters" the signal to provide a sharper response, not a more intense response. The reason they dont recommend using resistor plugs with thier application is more likely because of the effect it has on the RC time constant. If it is in parallel with the plug (as it must be taking into consideration what I just explained) then it is doing no more than what a large cap on your audio system does. So, at the right capacitance it is probably holding some charge between ignition points, so that the threshold voltage across the plug is met sooner during iginition, meaning it will fire quicker. That is about it. The other thing though, is that it conversly would be rounding off the top of the spike due to the fact it is filtering some of the high frequency component to ground.
Either way I would expect little to no effect on a standard setup, and zero effect on our setup other than looks. Just my .02 though
Good comments man.
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