Hey, I was looking at getting a scion xb as my back up car. But after reading through yalls posts i see alot of yall complaing about stuff falling off and stuff breaking. Is this a common problem? Im comming from owning a RX7 and i cant afford the constant upkeep of 2 cars. I need something relighable thats not going to have parts breaking or falling off or anything like that. So far these things meet all my needs, Comfy, spacious, good gas millage and a pretty decent factory system. The relighablity factor is all thats bothering me.

I love owning cars that you dont pass a million of them on the road everyday. And i dont really notice that many XB's out there which is really nice.

Also
Is there anyway of making these things RWD? and do they come with LSD?

no LSD, unless you buy in the bad part of town.....
Yeah you can do RWD, but it will take alot

the only thing that it seems that you cant keep in one peice for very long is the windsheild.....

lol LSD = limited slip diffrential (both wheels spinning instead of peg legging it)

I read about the grill or something falling off in the "you know you own a scion when" thread.

I know what LSD stands for........ and no the car doesnt come with one....

and the grille is held on with little push clips... so if you loose em yeah the grille is bound to fall off

darn, I didn't get any acid with my car. No wonder people say xB's are funny looking!
Yes, xB's are reliable, very roomy, Toyota qualty, and great gas mileage for the anount of room. For some people it's an acquired taste, so the bottom line is wether you like the xB or hate it. Stock xB's stay together for the most part, the more mods you do the more likely things are going to fall off, especially if the work is done by an amateur.

darn, I didn't get any acid with my car. No wonder people say xB's are funny looking!
Yes, xB's are reliable, very roomy, Toyota qualty, and great gas mileage for the anount of room. For some people it's an acquired taste, so the bottom line is wether you like the xB or hate it. Stock xB's stay together for the most part, the more mods you do the more likely things are going to fall off, especially if the work is done by an amateur. The xb is definatley an acquired taste kinda like a bottle of wine. :love:

Nothing has ever fallen off of mine (knocks on wood) and it's not like your tranny is going to fall out on the highway. Maybe a grill insert will fall out when you hit a huge puddle.

Pull the trigger.

the only problems I have had were caused by me :)

11 months in an xB, several long trips at 80 MPH. Nothing has fallen off, no warranty work, just two oil changes.

You should have no worries about reliability with an Xb. I've had my '06 box since late last Aug and have racked up 33k miles with no need to visit the dealership for service (outside of the 3 free oil changes). I have kept up with oil changes every 5k miles, Castrol GTX and a Purolator Pure One filter. I did the 30k service by changing the air filter, plugs, and oil myself. The tires are still good (rotatation at 5k is a good idea but not always necessary), the alignment still holds, and basically it has been hassle free. The AC especially has been decent! The only problem has been carrying cargo. I solved the interior scratch problem by getting a large peice of carpet from Lowes to lay out in the cargo area and over the backs of the seats (folded up when not in use). As far as the windshield "problems", that is basically a problem of the road conditions where you are. And the upright angle of the windshield means fewer deflecting hits, just more solid ones. So far only a tiny scratch on mine (of course now I'll get a rock thru it since I said that).

If anyone pushes their xB it's me. I live in Germany and drive 80+ MPH on the Autobahn DAILY and haven't had a single problem at all. Are there a couple rattle and squeaks inside, yeah, I kinda expect that from a cheap car that I have pulled the whole interior out to do a stereo in. If you are looking for a reliable daily car, the xB is it.

Anything that's broken on my Xb is due to me modding it etc. Krazy glue work fine for the mistakes, foam weatherstriping for the rattles once in a while. It reminds me of my old 77 VW camper that really had windshield problems, same size motor and just as reliable.

There are 2 xb's in my family. My wife has had hers since October of 04 and I just bought one for myself about a month ago. We have not had a problem on my wifes car since we bought. They are very reliable so don't worry about that.

"The only problem has been carrying cargo. I solved the interior scratch problem by getting a large peice of carpet from Lowes to lay out in the cargo area and over the backs of the seats (folded up when not in use). "

I also carry around a U-Haul moving blanket. You might want to check this as well.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=122114&highlight=

I scratched my windshield cleaning it with newspaper. Careful, they are "softer" than most windshields.

It's made my Toyota, it's reliable. I have 75,000 miles on mine and no problems.

I'd agree, the only things that fall off are self induced. I know alot of people experience rattles here and there though. I wouldn't worry about reliablitiy. Most of the parts have been in production for many years. So by now, they've worked out the kinks. I'm at two years, 18k miles and supercharged and have had no problems yet (except a loose altenator bolt, but that was my fault). Hope all our advice helps you make the right decision!

i dont plan on moding it, i just need a car that i can fit more then 1 person in, that i dont have to put oil in every 1k miles, do maintence on ect...

Only mods i might do are extierer mods, body kit, rims, custom paint job ect.. I have no desire to make this thing go fast.

I am disappointed in it not having LSD though, Is there any diffrential you can put in from any other car so it will have it?

No. You probably could with bags of money. And it would void your warrenty.

You're buying one for all the right reasons. Especially if you keep it stock. Get in and turn the key.

This is my one-year anniversary with my xB, and it has been flawless.

You see people complaining on forums because nobody posts "Hey, I have nothing to talk about!"

RichC

You see people complaining on forums because nobody posts "Hey, I have nothing to talk about!"

RichC

haha, funny because its true!

I think one of these for the Vitz 1NZ-FE may fit, but it's a lot of dough, doubly so since you're voiding the tranny warranty:

http://trdparts.jp/english/parts_lsd_mechanical.html

Why do you want an LSD in an xB anyway? Gonna race it on a track?

lol no i have my rx7 for racing, cars with LSD handle better and you get better control over them on the road. Who the hell would try to race with a 108hp van?

Well if you are talking about control, the xB has ABS, EBD, VSC and TRAC to keep you from losing it. You can turn off TRAC if you want a little wheelspin. It's supposed to simulate a 1-way LSD with the ABS.

I have had my Box since October and have only had it in the shop for two things. One was a squeak that was bothering me, and that turned out to be a defective hubcap. The other incident was a slight popping in the seat under hard braking and cornering. One of the rails needed adjusting (according to tech). Of all the cars I've owned in the Box's price range, the Box is definately the best!

"Toyota" means "reliable" in almost any language, and I doubt that the xB will disappoint.

Personally, I have no desire whatsoever to find out just how squirrelly a fwd car with lsd would be on an icy road. Their rwd cousins are bad enough...

Anybody who's going there should let me know, so I can be sure to go somewhere else...

I think one of these for the Vitz 1NZ-FE may fit, but it's a lot of dough, doubly so since you're voiding the tranny warranty:

http://trdparts.jp/english/parts_lsd_mechanical.html

Why do you want an LSD in an xB anyway? Gonna race it on a track?
Why would a TRD part void your warranty?

The 5 year / 60,000 mi drivetrain warranty for this part would be replaced by TRD's warranty on this part, which is nothing:

"There is no warranty for the TRD parts or for problems occurring in vehicles to which they have been installed."

http://trdparts.jp/english/notice.html

"Toyota" means "reliable" in almost any language, and I doubt that the xB will disappoint.

Personally, I have no desire whatsoever to find out just how squirrelly a fwd car with lsd would be on an icy road. Their rwd cousins are bad enough...

Anybody who's going there should let me know, so I can be sure to go somewhere else...


Ice is the least of my worries seeing as i live in tampa FL. If we get ice 90% of the people on the road would end up in a accident the first day. I just prefer having a lsd and having both wheels spin. If you ever driven a car with and without lsd you can feel the diffrence in handling and stuff. not that im going to go flying down the road in the car but its still nice to have.

The 5 year / 60,000 mi drivetrain warranty for this part would be replaced by TRD's warranty on this part, which is nothing:

"There is no warranty for the TRD parts or for problems occurring in vehicles to which they have been installed."

http://trdparts.jp/english/notice.html
The only way this would void your warranty is if the installed part contributed to the failure. We have laws to protect us from delaerships voiding warranties for mods that do not contribute to a failure.

Yeah well if you have any problems with your tranny they're going to blame it on this and unless you put the original back on who's to say they're wrong? If you install stuff like this you're pretty much taking full responsiblity for the tranny. I don't have a clue if TRAC should be off or on if you installed a 1.5 way LSD anybody know? I'm guessing off.

doesnt matter rx8's come with it and they have LSD, im assuming it wouldnt be hooked up though.

Well anyway to your original post yes they are reliable. I drove a Toyota Echo, which is the same chassis, for over 75,000 miles and never had any mechanical problems.

As far as people complaining, it's more the nature of people here than the car. I mean, the car show prejudice thread :roll:

21,000 miles an not a single trip to the dealership for anything other than oil changes. So for so good!

i slammed into a fragged up curb at 5 mph it hit so hard it kicked the hub cap 30 feet and dented the shiznight out of the wheel and the car pulls just a bit to the right. takes 15 seconds to change lanes, which i think is perrty good example of the cars alighnment holding, gonna go get it fixed right now as well as an oil change...

Probably the single thing I like best about the box IS the way it handles. Have you test driven one? The light weight and small length make this thing very nimble. It is easy to dart in and out of traffic. Plus, it corners like a go cart. It dosent feel under-powered to me....though it won't be pushing you back into the seat. The toyota echo, same motor and platform, I believe is considered to be one of the lowest "true cost to own" vehicles out there. Should translate to the Box as well. Very reliable.

no i plan on test driving one this week (thurs hopefully) since im off work. also wanna see what the insurance is going to be, im assuming low but its a brand new car so it may be higher. Hell my RX7 is cheaper then my 96 sentra right now for insurance by like 700.00 a year. So if insurance isnt ALOT ill probally be getting a LtO from Scion.

It's a really good ride for the Echo platform, the swaybar, extra weight, and wheelbase help. On my first test drive we went over some railroad tracks and the ride was much better than my old Echo. I almost bought it right there but it was a Kermit green ride with TVs in the headrests, not exactly what I wanted.

I test drove one for the first time yesterday and was very impressed. I took an automatic for a spin around the dealer lot, then took a manual (which is what I want) for the 5 mile test. Got to say I was really surprised at how well it did accelerate with only a 108HP. Anyway, I have to say this thread is very reassuring after some previous car experiences. I am hoping to be an owner on here in the next month or so.

I have 163,080 no problem at all perfect car still has the stock clutch too ;)

i don't get the desire to NEED limited slip .....the won't pegleg that bad with all the electronic controls or you have bad tires. i can barely spin the tires on my xB with the aftermarket wheels on and i have no other need to try. I'm low and slow and dodgin the pothole!

Holy hell, four year old thread.

I have 163,080 no problem at all perfect car still has the stock clutch too ;)Too bad the xB holds its value so well, or it would make a great car for anyone.

I have 163,080 no problem at all perfect car still has the stock clutch too ;)
i hear that. im half way at 56k! clutch is fine. ive been pushing it all the way to the floor since i learned to drive in the neighborhood 6 years ago!

i slammed into a fragged up curb at 5 mph it hit so hard it kicked the hub cap 30 feet and dented the shiznight out of the wheel and the car pulls just a bit to the right. takes 15 seconds to change lanes, which i think is perrty good example of the cars alighnment holding, gonna go get it fixed right now as well as an oil change...
ever driven in jackson ms? DODGE THE POTHOLES! i just hit an actual sinkhole (evidence from pulling over and running to see if i dropped any parts) in the road about a month ago. nothing happened... strange but absolutley nothing happened other than my head ramming the ceiling.

i took it to the shop immediatley. i did not believe their compliments so i went home to jack it up and check all the left side bushings and linkages... nothing... nothing... besides a scrape on the bottom of the front fender.

I just pass 164,300 in the xb box and still no problem at all looking fowared to do a intake and exhaust and new clutch so it can bread better

The xb makes a good daily driver. Just do your regular maintenance and your fine. Besides the small plastic grills that don't like staying in.

5years and 38K