For 3 months I researched different suspension components in hopes of getting the tC to handle better according to my driving skill and preferences. My plan was to install TRD shocks with H&R Sport springs until I did the math (parts and install time) and figured for a little bit more money, I could go with H&R coilovers. Originally I was against the idea of installing coilovers, after all, my car is a daily driver and may see a race track once or twice during my ownership. However, when I got a great deal at All Springs.com (Turner Motorsport), I quickly changed my mind. I was thinking I would give it a try and if didn't like them, I could purchase TRD shocks and H&R springs and put the coilovers up for sale in the classifieds... luckily, I won't have to.

http://hrsprings.com/application_elements/photos/c54610.jpg

Installation

I had Josh at FasterScions.com do the install. Since he specializes in Scions (obviously) and owns a tC, I figured he would be able to do the install in about 3 hours and do it right... he did it in under 2. Since the front coilovers came assembled and only needed a few of the original parts for mounting, it made his day, and most importantly, it got me on the street a lot quicker.

Ride Quality

I've never driven a car with coilovers and most of what I've read/heard about them is how hard the ride is. Because H&R doesn't publish their spring rates, I had no idea what to expect short of a few comments from Joe Dezod and others. When combined with a TRD sway bar set to "Race/Track" (and stock RE92 tires), the ride is stiff yet controllable and not uncomfortable. After changing the sway bar to "Street", the ride quality improved greatly and made it feel very similar to the TRD shocks/springs/sway bar [Race] combo with a touch more road feedback. I feel the latter setup is best for daily driving, so I'll leave the "Race" setting on the sway bar for the track.

Handling

Even with the stock tires, handling is vastly superior over OE. Body roll is negligible on the street, the wheels stay planted over bumps, and steering is neutral. Despite my best efforts, I have yet to find the limits of this suspension on the streets without resorting to extreme stupidity and endangering the general public and myself. Conversely, when others act foolish, emergency handling is razor sharp and kept me out of path of a [presumably] drunken SUV driver in the next lane. After some experimentation, 1.75" drop in the front and 1.5" drop in the back seems to be an optimum setting (and looks nice IMO), and as expected, steering response has improved and should be even better once I get a four-wheel alignment.

Thanks to Josh at FasterScions.com (http://www.fasterscions.com/index.html), Joe Dezod, H&R Springs (http://www.hrsprings.com/), and Turner Motorsport (http://www.allsprings.com/) for their help and professionalism.

nice......i was thinking about these! On the comfort, is it comfortable or can you feel the bumps? Let me know cause im thinking about haveing a change of heart for these than the TEIN Basics.

You can feel the bumps, but it's not uncomfortable. You probably won't notice a difference over your current setup assuming your sway bars aren't set to their stiffest settings.

H&R are the $hit........

how high can you go on those coilovers? stock height maybe? thanks.

^^^ I didn't try it, but I believe the highest they adjust is 0.75" lower than stock.

I have H&R and have tracked them...they are excellent

Is the stiffness adjustable, or just the height?
And if so, are they like all the others where you can adjust the hight on the car, but the rears must be removed to adjust the stiffness?

I don't think stiffness is adjustable.

^^^ Correct, stiffness is not adjustable. However, with the proper sway bar adjustments, they should be more than adequate for the track.

It is =]

combo with a touch more road feedback

Just wondering how changing the swaybar settings had an effect on how the car rides? Swaybars shouldn't have anything to do with how stiff the suspension feels. They don't add any additonal springrate or dampening. You should only be able to notice the difference in body roll.

nice writeup, any pics?

Just wondering how changing the swaybar settings had an effect on how the car rides?
[snip]
You should only be able to notice the difference in body roll.

As you know, the sway bar is basically a torsion bar. As one side of the suspension compresses, the sway bar twist and compresses the opposite side which reduces body roll and keeps the car flatter in the turn. The downside of this [for example] is if the left wheel hits a bump, it transmits to the right wheel, and that increases according to stiffness of the sway bar. As I was going over bumps (even minor bumps) in the road, both sides of the rear suspension were compressing and reducing suspension travel making the car feel stiff. Once I reduced the stiffness of the sway bar, the opposite side of the rear suspension was able to move more independently, soak up the bumps and provide a smoother ride. However, the compromise I had to make in softening the sway bar is increased body roll, but as I said in my write-up, you have to push the car to the point of being unsafe on public roads to really notice the difference.

As for pictures, all I have is a crappy camera phone, but thanks to vendor requests, I'll have some pretty decent photos on the way in a week or two. :wink:

nice writeup, any pics?

Just wondering how changing the swaybar settings had an effect on how the car rides?
[snip]
You should only be able to notice the difference in body roll.

As you know, the sway bar is basically a torsion bar. As one side of the suspension compresses, the sway bar twist and compresses the opposite side which reduces body roll and keeps the car flatter in the turn. The downside of this [for example] is if the left wheel hits a bump, it transmits to the right wheel, and that increases according to stiffness of the sway bar. As I was going over bumps (even minor bumps) in the road, both sides of the rear suspension were compressing and reducing suspension travel making the car feel stiff. Once I reduced the stiffness of the sway bar, the opposite side of the rear suspension was able to move more independently, soak up the bumps and provide a smoother ride. However, the compromise I had to make in softening the sway bar is increased body roll, but as I said in my write-up, you have to push the car to the point of being unsafe on public roads to really notice the difference.

As for pictures, all I have is a crappy camera phone, but thanks to vendor requests, I'll have some pretty decent photos on the way in a week or two. :wink:

I can see your point but only over really large bumps where one wheel is cycling up and the other wheel isn't moving as much. For instance if you have ever seen a car with stiff swaybars pulling into a steeply angled driveway. Usally the back tire will come off the ground. The tension from the swaybar is keeping the other tire from dropping out any further. If you were to lift that car up in the air that tire would then fully droop out. Over a small bumps on a road where both wheels are cycling up and down the swaybars are also free to move up and down. There should be little to no tension on the swaybars over these types of road surfaces which will allow for full suspesion travel. In a bumpy corner at speed where the swaybars are loaded up I could see a stiffer swaybar having some effect on the stiffness and travel of the rear suspension. That's just my take on it.

I can see your point but only over really large bumps where one wheel is cycling up and the other wheel isn't moving as much. For instance if you have ever seen a car with stiff swaybars pulling into a steeply angled driveway. Usally the back tire will come off the ground. The tension from the swaybar is keeping the other tire from dropping out any further. If you were to lift that car up in the air that tire would then fully droop out. Over a small bumps on a road where both wheels are cycling up and down the swaybars are also free to move up and down. There should be little to no tension on the swaybars over these types of road surfaces which will allow for full suspesion travel. In a bumpy corner at speed where the swaybars are loaded up I could see a stiffer swaybar having some effect on the stiffness and travel of the rear suspension. That's just my take on it.

I used to think the same thing, but it's as plain as day after the change. After my alignment yesterday, I returned the sway bar to the "Race" setting and did a few laps on a what would be a typical road found in L.A. (Forest Lawn Drive for my L.A. peeps). It's not a bumpy road by any standards, but it's not glass either and there was a noticeable difference in perceived stiffness in a straight line as well as around corners; the same applied on my freeway loop of a "washboard" section of the 134. I guess it's one of those things that have to be experienced rather than read about. :?

That's too weird. I want to take a ride. I really want to see how those coilovers handle. I don't really care for the TRD susupesion. The shock valving and spring rate is on the soft side.

Do your fronts creak a bit at very low speeds... Its my only complaint but Im guessing just due to the 2 spring design. I've driven the car on mid ohio before any adjustments and now with a these and some other suspension work and WOW.

Do your fronts creak a bit at very low speeds... Its my only complaint but Im guessing just due to the 2 spring design. I've driven the car on mid ohio before any adjustments and now with a these and some other suspension work and WOW.

Oddly enough, it's my rears that are starting to make noise, I think I'm going to try some Rear Spring Noise Stoppers from www.optomizescion.com.

ETA: It was just a loose sway bar end link. :relief:

Road Trip

After getting a four-wheel alignment, it was time to hit the road... 267 miles later, I ended up in Vegas. The 15 highway offered up a variety of road conditions to test the suspension from fresh asphalt to truck ruts, and the coilovers rolled over them with ease. My three and a half hour drive was free of any bouncy feel or harshness, yet offered a pleasant amount road feedback. If you are willing to spend a little extra money, these coilovers should be in your future.

I dont' know. It just seems like you can pay just as much and get coilovers just as good but also add adjustable stiffness.
On the other hand, how often are you going to adjust the stiffness when the whole assembly must be removed to adjust the rears?

I dont' know. It just seems like you can pay just as much and get coilovers just as good but also add adjustable stiffness.

On the other hand, how often are you going to adjust the stiffness when the whole assembly must be removed to adjust the rears?

Adjustable stiffness is a great feature to have if one regularly races their tC, but if it's a daily driver, it doesn't make much sense to me. Most folks that have adjustable stiffness seem to set it way too hard to the point of physical discomfort and make their tC handle worse on street. And then there's having to remove the entire coilover to make an adjustment. Again, it's great for a race car, but everytime you remove them, you change your alighnment. If one decides to "set and forget" the amount of stiffness, why not just buy coilovers with the proper spring rate and stiffness in the first place?

I guess that's what it comes down to.
If you buy the H&R, which I was considering cause I love their products, and you like the stiffness, then your gold.
But, for the same price, you can get the Tiens, and then adjust it to the exact stiffness you want, and then leave them alone. Your kinda gambling that the H&Rs are just right for your likeness on your type of streets.
If I'm gonna pay more then a grand, I want adjustable everything. If I don't need all those adjustments, I'll go with the cheaper tiens, or just get adjustable Koni's to go with my Hotchkis springs which are the perfect hight right now.

I searched around for a bit after my original order for the progress coil overs was going to be a long wait. My take on it after a few days of reading was that the H&Rs offered great performance and still street friendly driving. I read more than a few posts here and other places that Tiens were incredibly rough and bouncy. So unless you bought the ones you could adjust on the fly they were not worth it. I think that was also look at close to $1500-2000, over the $1000 H&Rs.

Now that I have them I can not complain... I have driven them daily for over a month, and at mid ohio, and SCCA autocross. The improvements are amazing, and while yes Im sure you could find a tighter option, I urge you to find some that compare to the H&R's for both street and track. I would bet the progress ones do, but I hear they are still back ordered, and a little softer than the H&Rs.

i got my progress coilovers about 1 1/2 months ago :love:

I am looking at purchasing these, where can i get the best price on them.. thanks.

I am looking at purchasing these, where can i get the best price on them.. thanks.

http://www.optionimports.com/54610-1024.html

https://secure11.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=allsprings&BusType=BtoC&Count1=190288722&Count2=107429146&ProductID=430&Target=products.asp

I got mine from www.allsprings.com (Turner Motorsport) for $975.

any pictures yet?

thanks guys for the info.. now to save..... ARG!! Damn college...

any pictures yet?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/Gil_tc/Xclusive/Xclusive011.jpg

This is all I have (for now). [Thanks Gil!]

-1.75 Front -1.5 Rear

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/personal/32204_4.jpg

Niiice...I really love the color too

Hmmm coilovers...sorry for the newbie question, but if I buy coilovers than means I dont have to buy new shocks right??? Anyone kno...help much appreicated :bow:

true CO's come with shocks

As long as you get full coilovers and not "Adjustable coil springs" like the Ground Controll Coilovers. Those are just the springs even though most sites have them listed in the "Coilover" section.
Pretty much, if they cost at least $800, they come with struts. If your only paying $400, it may just be adjustable springs. Regular dropped springs should be under $250.

Thumbs up to the H&R Coilovers. I love mine and wouldn't trade em for the world :D

^ +1

Oddly enough, it's my rears that are starting to make noise, I think I'm going to try some Rear Spring Noise Stoppers from www.optomizescion.com.



Ever get that fixed??

Oddly enough, it's my rears that are starting to make noise, I think I'm going to try some Rear Spring Noise Stoppers from www.optomizescion.com.



Ever get that fixed??

Yeah, it was just a loose sway bar end link. :relief:

Oddly enough, it's my rears that are starting to make noise, I think I'm going to try some Rear Spring Noise Stoppers from www.optomizescion.com.



Ever get that fixed??

Yeah, it was just a loose sway bar end link. :relief:

LOL..I swear thats the most common issue people run into..happened to me to..cept it was a loud clanking sound.

Btw, did the shop who did the install align your car as well? Or if they didn't, where did you go to have it done? I sorta wanna get the install done at a place that offers lifetime alignment, but the only place I can think of is Discount Tire Center in El Monte..

Btw, did the shop who did the install align your car as well? Or if they didn't, where did you go to have it done? I sorta wanna get the install done at a place that offers lifetime alignment, but the only place I can think of is Discount Tire Center in El Monte..

I did not get the alignment done at the same shop that did the install. Don't laugh, but I had the alignment done at Pep Boys because many of the guys and gals in the shop drove lowered cars. I didn't get the lifetime option, but that's because I'm buying tires from a place that offers free alignments for as long as you own the tires.

Bump for the folks looking to buy coilovers for the holidays.

4 Months Later

For some strange reason, I thought it was a good idea to drive nearly 12 hours from L.A. to El Paso, Texas to meet up with my Mom and Sister to surprise my Grandmother. The ride was comfortable and I didn't feel fatigued; the biggest compliment came when Mom said my car rode better than her Acura TL. :P

Bump for the folks looking to buy coilovers for the holidays.

4 Months Later

For some strange reason, I thought it was a good idea to drive nearly 12 hours from L.A. to El Paso, Texas to meet up with my Mom and Sister to surprise my Grandmother. The ride was comfortable and I didn't feel fatigued; the biggest compliment came when Mom said my car rode better than her Acura TL. :P

Better than a TL?!?! Hell yeah, you convinced me to buy these buddy. thanx bro. question: if i buy hotchkis sways (with h&r coils), will my ride be too stiff for me?? i use this car as a DD and probably will never c a track, but i always want that better handling....should i just go with trd sway, progress, or hochkis???? don't wanna threadjack, just a simple question.

question: if i buy hotchkis sways (with h&r coils), will my ride be too stiff for me?? i use this car as a DD and probably will never c a track, but i always want that better handling....should i just go with trd sway, progress, or hochkis???? don't wanna threadjack, just a simple question.

I've never driven a tC with Hotchkis sways, so I don't know how stiff they are. However, I look at it this way: H&R spent a lot of time developing their front coilovers for the tC using the stock sway bar. Plenty of R&D went into the main spring rate, damper rebound rate, and tender spring to keep the wheels firmly planted on the ground and keeping roll to a minimum... I wouldn't want to ruin that balance on a DD. For the rear, I run a TRD sway bar which isn't nearly as stiff as Hotchkis, At first, I switched to the "Street" setting for a smoother ride over our wonderful L.A. roads, but I left it on "Race" after a canyon run and never changed them back, especially after breaking them in. If you go with H&R, install TRD or Progress sway bars.

question: if i buy hotchkis sways (with h&r coils), will my ride be too stiff for me?? i use this car as a DD and probably will never c a track, but i always want that better handling....should i just go with trd sway, progress, or hochkis???? don't wanna threadjack, just a simple question.

I've never driven a tC with Hotchkis sways, so I don't know how stiff they are. However, I look at it this way: H&R spent a lot of time developing their front coilovers for the tC using the stock sway bar. Plenty of R&D went into the main spring rate, damper rebound rate, and tender spring to keep the wheels firmly planted on the ground and keeping roll to a minimum... I wouldn't want to ruin that balance on a DD. For the rear, I run a TRD sway bar which isn't nearly as stiff as Hotchkis, At first, I switched to the "Street" setting for a smoother ride over our wonderful L.A. roads, but I left it on "Race" after a canyon run and never changed them back, especially after breaking them in. If you go with H&R, install TRD or Progress sway bars.

sweet thanx for the info. i'll probably lean towards trd or progress as you said. the stiffness in hotchkis is like 278% lowest setting...and trd's track is 68%....talk about a big jump. i don't know the stiffness of the progress but i'm assuming it's stiffer than TRD but less than hotchkis. i gotta test drive my friend's car with his trd sway and c if i like it or not. thanx for the help!

Bump for the folks looking to buy coilovers for the holidays.

4 Months Later

For some strange reason, I thought it was a good idea to drive nearly 12 hours from L.A. to El Paso, Texas to meet up with my Mom and Sister to surprise my Grandmother. The ride was comfortable and I didn't feel fatigued; the biggest compliment came when Mom said my car rode better than her Acura TL. :P

i am sold on HR :clap:

Welcome to the HR family! :D

Bump for the folks looking to buy coilovers for the holidays.

4 Months Later

For some strange reason, I thought it was a good idea to drive nearly 12 hours from L.A. to El Paso, Texas to meet up with my Mom and Sister to surprise my Grandmother. The ride was comfortable and I didn't feel fatigued; the biggest compliment came when Mom said my car rode better than her Acura TL. :P
thats a great way to sell these. I would if i had the money.

They're worth the money spent.

would u guys say that these h&R CO are more comfortable than the ksport CO?

I just got mine for 1004 shipped at Cardoamin.com after the 105% price match policy that link the (allspring.com) site to them to get the deal. Allspring.com had them for 975 but shipping was 43 something to Texas.

Cardomain.com got thm for me shipped at 1004!!! Awesome. I shoul dhave them in around 4-5 days after they get them in from the manufacturer, which after i called to confirm my address (high priced item, smart!!), they said i should get them pretty fast.

Cool!!

All i need to know now is what setting should i set them at??? 2fast4you?? Nay help in that catagory.. Thanks bro...

All i need to know now is what setting should i set them at??? 2fast4you?? Nay help in that catagory.. Thanks bro...

I have mine set at -1.75 front and -1.5 rear mostly for looks, but soon I'll have them corner weighted and re-adjusted for track use. Whatever you decide to set them to, I would keep them above a 2" drop to maintain street performance.

^Im looking for reliable places to get my car corner weighted. Do you have one in mind? how much would this cost?

^Im looking for reliable places to get my car corner weighted. Do you have one in mind? how much would this cost?

Where are you located?

LA county

I'll let you know as soon as I find a place.

I'm saving up for these right now. I'm sold on them. My buddy had H&R coils on his old audi a4 and I loved them.

All i need to know now is what setting should i set them at??? 2fast4you?? Nay help in that catagory.. Thanks bro...

I have mine set at -1.75 front and -1.5 rear mostly for looks, but soon I'll have them corner weighted and re-adjusted for track use. Whatever you decide to set them to, I would keep them above a 2" drop to maintain street performance.

thanks... bro.. How much did you pay for your install (i am sure its cheapers than normal spring install since they dont have to seperate the old).. I have the hotchkis sways as well. i might change the settings to Street.. i have them set at the mid setting, so i dont know which one that is.. thanks for your help.

my main reason for getting coilovers is the fact that my tires are huge and on bigger sized bumps i rub my fender, and on turns i rub...the trd springs are just wayy to bouncy i need something more stiff and wont rub, TEIN or H and R coilovers best for this? this is a daily driver and my main reason is to stiffen my ride on turns and over bumps so i dont rub. any ideas? btw my tires are 235/35-19...

my main reason for getting coilovers is the fact that my tires are huge and on bigger sized bumps i rub my fender, and on turns i rub...the trd springs are just wayy to bouncy i need something more stiff and wont rub, TEIN or H and R coilovers best for this? this is a daily driver and my main reason is to stiffen my ride on turns and over bumps so i dont rub. any ideas? btw my tires are 235/35-19...

From what you described, it sounds like you have too low an offset for your wheels and changing the suspension will not help much to prevent rubbing.

Question: Do these come with the upper mounts for both front and rear?

Question: Do these come with the upper mounts for both front and rear?

No. You'll have to use the original upper mounts, but it takes about 2 hours to do the entire install.

cool, cool. thanks for the info! you car looks nice btw!! :D

cool, cool. thanks for the info! you car looks nice btw!! :D

Thanks!

What did you pay for the coils?

What did you pay for the coils?

$975

thanks man for the link to this thread, im still debating but i put the K-Sports (the ones i was thinkin about for a while) on the back burner and im putting these ahead of them :) thank!

i believe you can get these for around 890 + shipping from neverenoughauto.com im thinking about going with H&R in the future =)

dont see it on their site

oh ya sorry he doesnt have a lot of his inventory on there yet..
but you can email him.hes a real cool guy hes on the matrixowners forums alot thats where i know him from all the guys there love him hah usually has real good prices one of the lowest too and his customer service is good
i usually pm him from my matrixowners name for quotes and stuff for the tc so far hes the cheapest one ive seen for H&R coilovers
anyways you can email him at sales@neverenoughauto.com
the owners name is brad

Thank you 2fast4you... You bought me. I will buy the H&R Coil overs.

I'll be picking these up this week hopefully. Can't FKN wait. The TRD springs are just to bumpy for me, on top of which i think i somehow managed to blow one of my struts. Its creeking like hell

I'll be picking these up this week hopefully. Can't FKN wait. The TRD springs are just to bumpy for me, on top of which i think i somehow managed to blow one of my struts. Its creeking like hell

Whoa that is a first someone saying that TRDs are too bumpy. TRD is probably the softest springs close to the stock. Coilovers will be more bumpier.

^Maybe I mis phrased that. I meant to much like stock. I want a stiffer ride lol

You meant too bouncy huh :D

^Exactly lol

Wow... I can't believe I started this thread two years ago! I guess now is a good time for an update...

I'm working for Carnival Cruise Lines now and don't get to drive my tC as often anymore... but when I do get behind the wheel, it still feels great! My Mom is still raving about the ride and wants me to "store" my tC at her house while I'm at sea. :D I do have to say some two years and a few track days later I'm still extremely happy with my decision.

^Thats awsome. Thanks for the update man. I just put my order in today so ill post up pics once its installed hopefully either sunday or tuesday

Just to let everyone know, if your going to order the H&R coilovers prepare to wait. They are on backorder till the end of August.

its all good julian, they're well worth the wait! :)

^Yea i keep hearing that! lol so im waiting :P

lol i like how this thread is 2 years old. Back in the day 2fast said i should get these right after he did. I loved them so much on my 06 tc, and now im getting them for my 2008 tc.

Revival!!! Getting my H&R coilovers TODAY!!! any install tips?

The back are a pain to get out the old ones. I had to stand on the control arm to remove the old assembly. Its pretty easy and so much fun to do. After you install them wait about two weeks to get an alignment. And take a tape measure, and measure from the pavement to the bottom of your fender to make sure your even on all sides.

i got a slight knocking on the driver side...its like somethings loose, gotta take it back tomo

the top bolts are torqued to 36 foot pounds i believe, also make sure your not spinning the sway bar bolt when you tighten it. There is an allen key that holds it in place while you tighten it... that could be your problem.

yeah it was the bolt up top, got it tightened./torqued..no more vibrations... this suspension ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

PICS!

no need for pics...my ride is higher than b4....no slammage..dont want the rubbage

1 day review...
Wow, ive gone through a couple suspensions...first it was trd springs, B+G coilovers, then my old setup Tanabe df210 with tokicos.....these H&Rs rock....it feels like a german car now (except for that damn hatch rattle over bumps..) Currently i have it set at a 1.5 fingergap in the front and 1 finger gap in the back...

The handling is superb...combined with the sway the car doesnt even flinch when i turn aggressively..reduced a lot of dipping and squatting...and a full car of people...it still feels solid...

I am totally satisfied with this setup so far...its tight..and best of all no rubbing...unless i go lower....g/f is happy..but little does she know how much i spent to fix the "rubbing"

I love my H & R coilovers!!!! I also have the TRD front strut tie bar, TRD rear sway bar(race/track setting), Greddy rear strut tie bar and megan racing c pillar bar!!! PERFECT!!! :)

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

my driver side is rattling....had mechanic tighten it up (top bolt).stopped rattling for a day and it returned today....called h&r..they said my strut bearing is prolly shot...any opinions? The strut bearing is located in the upper mount...so i guess im gonna need to get a new uppermount...ugh ( this is the third suspension set ive put on that used the uppermounts...tech said that its prolly from removing the mounts on and off so much)

Interesting; I just came back from having someone check on a similar thing with my H&R's (was hearing a tapping noise on one front side or the other; primarily front passenger). He was suggesting that it could be the upper mount, but I didn't notice the tapping afterward (I don't always notice it). I'll have to drive on it a bit more and listen, but perhaps retightening the top bolt did something? I'll see.

I'm sort of curious if there are any compatible upper mounts, or if I should just go stock. I know the Tein SS-P has the pillow mounts, but those come with the whole set, and I don't know if they're compatible.

i replaced the mount with a new one and its perfect...no sounds at all..my car feels likie a german car...very taut, firm...also taped up my glove box..my car is basically rattle free over bumps.

brian if you get the mount i can try to do the swap for you w/o you paying labor at the dealership. my boss wants to charge everyone that doesnt work there at least 2 hour of my labor which is $50/ hour (which isnt bad if you consider that for a flat rate tech its $100

I'm thinking I should just get stock mounts again, since the Tein ones seem to be bundled in with the whole coilover set, and the H&R's seem to be in excellent condition. Not seeing much on searches through SL or Google, so I'm guessing the only aftermarket mounts are the pillow ones on the Tein SS coilovers.

...but I haven't driven it since I took it home; I'll take it through the drive to work tomorrow and keep my ears open.

yea i would just go with another oem mount brian. im sure danny in parts will hook u up,... he likes the scion owners,

oh and did you talk to the guy like i told you to about the intake yet? :tap:

I didn't remember which vendor you were looking at, but I asked CorSport; they said "special order, 3-6 weeks", which is the same thing I heard the first time.

I should be able to drive on the mounts as they are now; everything else seemed to check out.

I just brought a set and got it today and wanted to know how low do they go and if anyone has taken out a ring in the front and the rear??

I just brought a set and got it today and wanted to know how low do they go and if anyone has taken out a ring in the front and the rear??

Don't drop them below 2", or buy something else. H&R weren't meant to be dumped.

Ok just making sure I already have them. I just want to eliminate the wheel gap. Will they do it with out removing a ring?

I am not sure what parts from the oem shocks am I suppose to use to install the rears??

Is these all I need or what??

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j58/bsowde/DIY/Tein_Basic/37.jpg

yea thats all you need

Ok just making sure I already have them. I just want to eliminate the wheel gap. Will they do it with out removing a ring?

I didn't take n e rings out, but I have no wheel gap with the stockies!! 2in. rear and 2.4in. front!! Rides perfect!

how do you measure the drop? my rears are lower than the front :[

I have a little problem i just installed the rears and when i took it off the jack i noticed that the tops of the coilovers which is located in the trunk of the car popped up the top mounts.

dude same ____ happened to me... but i was too ____ed to fix it so i gave it to the dealer and they dialed it in for me. Dont drive that thing hard cause you will damage something.

So what do i do I think i may have assembled them wrong. What pieces did you use to assemble the rears?? Bro I am at a loss...

Man I couldn't honestly tell you. I spent nine hours installing them and when I found out it got effed up I was so ____ed and said F it.

I just got a set of H&R coils and noticed that the rear coils say Toyota Avensis T25 but the fronts say Scion TC, did your guys' coils also come like that?

yes. dont worry about it...the Tc is based on the toyota avensis chassis

Here is my ride dropped on H&R coilovers.......

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n76/dqlostsoulz/CIMG1381.jpg

that looks so good. i love my h&r

how low are you?

Thanks bro...the fronts are minus a ring and the rear can still go a bit lower.

what do you mean minus a ring?so its maxed?

I took off a locking ring from the fronts.

oh word. are you maxed out on the fronts though?

Yup...it was not low enough so I removed the rings (fronts)

im on thestock 17's so i probably wont rub if i max it out?

Naw you should be good...

wow man, you must be rubbin like crazy....

^^ actually i am not.

whats your wheel and tire specs.... I love the look, but the reason why i went with coilovers is because i couldnt stand the rubbin over bumps. I have 18x8 et35 p225-40 also what brand tires you run? I run Eagle GT..and they seem to be a little wider than other tires....

whats your wheel and tire specs.... I love the look, but the reason why i went with coilovers is because i couldnt stand the rubbin over bumps. I have 18x8 et35 p225-40 also what brand tires you run? I run Eagle GT..and they seem to be a little wider than other tires....

J2/410 Mesh Staggered Rims Front:19x8.5et35 Rear:19x9.5et40 // Falken 452`s Front:225/35/19 Rear:235/35/19

good to hear

i have these for sale!

I have a question...I was wondering if I can get a different set of springs for the fronts to make them go lower?

OK so this a pretty old thread but I didn't want to start a new one to ask this, plus this thread sold me on these so I thought it would be appropriate to ask here.

Where's the best place to get a set of these from? I've seen them as low as $975 here (http://www.allsprings.com/catalog/scion-tc-hr-coilover-kits.htm) but I've never heard of that website. Can anyone vouch for it?

I'd really like to grab a set of these based on what I'm reading here.

allsprings is good, i got spacers from them before, and the H&R rear sway bar

Just ordered these from allsprings - great price, great service. Should be on the car (along with my new figure grilles) on Saturday, I'll put up some pics. Can't wait!

Had them on for about a month now - Love them. This review is what led me to buy them, and I am extremely satisfied.

Here's some pics:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/ASquared150/IMG_1061.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/ASquared150/DSC_2037copy.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b228/ASquared150/IMG_1069.jpg

Great coils.

/reviving an old thread

nice. im trying to decide wether to get these or progress coils. still saving and right now, im leaning toward the H&R

Just bought these same coilovers and will be installing them in a RS5, i have not seen another RS5 lowered more then the TRD springs and cant wait to install them. ill post pics of the coilovers on my TC when there installed.

Asquared, can you still go lower on them?

probably, those coils can go pretty low

Stuck between F&FII and H&R coilovers. :(

Does anybody have or know where i can get the install instructions for H&R coilovers, I bought some used and would like the exact plans to do the install.

Check there website out. I bet there is some installation guide there.

I have had H&R coilovers for about 9 months and have loved them. The car feels like it's glued to the road and the drop looks great with the 18inch Tenzo Type M rims. My only issue, which I have had two shops check, has been the knocking sound coming from the front when I turn the wheel. After reading on here that others have seemingly had the same issue looks like I will take it on once more. That is after I get my car back from getting the engine replaced (Story in itself). Word of advice, if the shop looks shady, seems shady, and is seemingly covered in shade, it probably is shady.

Asquared, can you still go lower on them?

Yes. I'm not sure how many threads I have left front/rear, but at least a couple.

I have had H&R coilovers for about 9 months and have loved them. The car feels like it's glued to the road and the drop looks great with the 18inch Tenzo Type M rims. My only issue, which I have had two shops check, has been the knocking sound coming from the front when I turn the wheel. After reading on here that others have seemingly had the same issue looks like I will take it on once more. That is after I get my car back from getting the engine replaced (Story in itself). Word of advice, if the shop looks shady, seems shady, and is seemingly covered in shade, it probably is shady.


I have a similar noise but I can't seem to find anything wrong.

^^I heard theres usually noise with aftermarket coilovers. I'm stuck between these and Progress/TRD. I don't want a harsh ride cuz there's alot of potholes where I live. Just want to drop about 1.4" or so, nothing big. Anyone know how H&R ride compared to Progress/TRD? Still can't find the spring rate.

H&r will ride nice until you slam them

I bought the H & R Coilovers a month ago, and have really liked them. The ride really is as smooth as everyone says, and the grip is excellent. My only complaint is the noise these things make, particularly the front. When I hit sudden bumps (smaller ones, to cause a quick hit to my suspension), I notice a metallic clanking sound, and it's loudest on the passenger side. The rears are silent, and I have taken the car to several shops (5, to be exact), and everyone says that they look fine and that everything checks out. DocIso installed for me, too. Does anyone know what could be wrong?

Theories Tested (and tried):
1. Tighten top-hat bolt
2. Check endlinks and swaybars, and tighten
3. Installed rubber washer in between top hat and upper spring (fixed sound, only to cause the spring to not sit properly)
4. Alignment (which ironically reduced sound for 3 days)
5. Reinstall (removed and reinstalled)

I'm open to new ideas from the Scion community.:doh:

^Any update with this?