I've been talking with a supercharger company and they are considering making a kit specifically for the Xa it will be like a vortech system and controlled by a standalone computer. The kit would also come with a custom carbon fiber hood to accomadate the blower that is adjustable up to 16 pounds of boost. The kit would come with a fuel pump and all components relitive to fuel management. The kit would sell for around 3 thousand dollars and would be very easy to install. All I need to know right now is how much interest there is in a kit like this from Xa owners only please. not to exclude the Xb guys but the company wants an accurate sample of interested Xa owners. The carbon fiber hood will be custom made to give clearance for a large blower. This kit will also be made street legal if possible. At this time I cannot give you horsepower estimates or tourque estimates but I would imagine they would be very high and you will have the headroom to upgrade engine internals to break the 200whp mark. please just leave a quick post saying yes i would be interested with solid components and solid numbers. or no I wouldn't be. This post will weigh very heavily on whether this manufacturer considers making this kit and it is their decision. I am not a liberty to discuss who they are but they are very reputable and have been around along time. This project is in the thought stage right now it is in your hands largely on whether it becomes a reality and there will be a follow up kit for the Xb in all likelyhood if it can be made street legal which is a major goal.

yes, i would be very interested

thats a definent yes, im interested

sorry, but no

if you can give me a place to buy built up internals then yes, but as of now if i boost over 12 psi ill blow up, i can already feel the pressure from just the 8 lbs i curently run

Yes, I'm very interested.

Can you tell me if they are going to do a supercharger for an auto?

if they do i hope they offer something to beef of our tranny

since I cannot talk about other peoples kits or their tuning or management issues. because as far as I know they all run off of emanage. This will be a totally diffrent animal with tons of doors unlocked that haven't been before in a scion kit. There are companies that offer affordable engine internals now for the Xa. TRD is pushing 12psi on stock components with no problem it is in the tuning. A simple yes or no will suffice if there is intrest then it might happen. If I can't get an accurate sample I can assure everyone it's not going to happen and I really hope something like this gets made for our car especially by this company.

oh and yes it will accomodate an automatic or a manual it doesn't matter with the desighn that is being thought about.

I'm still interested.

I hope they make the supercharger kit for the beloved xA.

im a YES......and to all worried about internals you can find my topic in power/drivetrain forum with a link to forged turbo pistons that are actually for sale and in stock unlike some other companies fabled pistons....cough...ZPI....cough. all you need with the pistons is get the rods magnfluxed and shotpeend and TUNE CORRECTLY and itll take that boost

Yes

Kyle

:love: INTERESTING CAN YOU SEND ME THAT SITE FOR THE FORGED PISTONS THAT WOULD BE AWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMEEEEEEE

yes...i would be interested

http://www.wiseco.com/Catalogs/Automobile.aspx for pistons they will be listed by the engine code since they came out for the echo first. I hope more interest comes soon as this isn't going to cut it it takes alot of R&D to put together a very good kit and the cost has to be justified to the demand. so I guess I'll waight and see. I'll let it run for another week and a half then I'll be submitting it to the company regardless of the results Thats the timeframe I was given.

also here is link to a site that offers a full engine kit you can even get overboar sizes you may also want to try CP PISTONS or CROWER RODS. here is your link http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/pek-toyota.html I also find it very strange that all the echo forums these guys are running between 14-18 pounds of boost on standalone engine management and are making well over 200 horsepower out of our engines. They are also running 14 on stock internals safely with a standalone tuned properly and the right fuel setup. so has anybody but me thought that emanage and our stock ecu might be the problem with boosting the scion Xa and XB. I think it is and I think we could learn some stuff from the echo community. I also thik this kit if made will have the components to get you started on the right foot.

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how many people do you need to be onboard

I hope we get enough xA owners, so the company makes the supercharger.

The only other company I know of that makes a supercharger for the xA is Blitz.

yeah and that supercharger isnt worth the price for such low power

Link to Turbo Lower Compression Pistons: http://www.raceeng.com/pc-7941-55-toyota-1nzfe75mm-851-turb0.aspx

nice link we need at least 100 owners and I will reveal the name of the company later if they don't build the kit. If they do then I will waight until they announce it's release or I will ask if they mind if I reveal who they are I just know they aren't going to want to be flooded with calls about the kit while it is in R&D.

im not sure if there are 100 xa owners on here, if this was for the xb this topic would be flooded

Here is what doesnt sound right to me. A company wants to make a supercharger kit that includes a standalone ecu all for around $3k? Either its a POS ecu or the kit is just bad quality. Assuming its really a standalone, they would have to invest in makeing a harness for the car, which will raise the cost significantly, or you the purchaser of the kit will be responsible for getting the engine management installed...which will cost even more to have the kit up and running right. Also, would the kit come with different size pullies? Or else how would they make boost adjustable to 16psi?

well I don't know it's in the thought stage at the moment and I cannot get a simple sample of intrest for the company of a yes or no on whether people would be interested ultimately it's your decision once it's produced. no offence rollhard but you already have a system and there are alot of Xa owners that don't and would like a street legal system. I spend hours on the phone and emailing a company generating interest they want to see a sample of simple yes or no's and instructions went out the window so I give up I'm going to call them in the morning and tell them I'm sorry I wasted their time that I couldn't get a simple sample of intrest. FROM Xa OWNERS ONLY the kit was going to be made by Applied technologies research these guys used to work for NASA and have set the world record with a few cars and do behind the scenes work for alot of companies. they make alot of the current kits that are on the market for alot of cars. I've done alot of leg work for the Xa owners in trying to get projector lights made for us and in trying to get this kit made with no reward or sponsership for myself. I give up whenever something good comes along it always has to be messed up by somone.

damn, that sucks, i was really interested

Ghostrider25... I really don't think it is fair for you to blame the folks in here for lack of interest. First, the xA market isn't a huge market to begin with. Second, you are asking in a single forum shared by two makes. (Of which your target market is the minority.) Third, there are obvious issues in the plan stated in your original post.

Am I sorry you couldn't get a straight yes or no answer? Yes. Do I think it is ridiculous that you are bitter toward others in this thread for not doing exactly what you wanted? Yes.

I don't think anyone in this post was out of line. I also think you should have set the post up as a poll. You would have likely gotten much better response by doing so. Also, whether your choice or the companies, excluding xB owners was the biggest mistake you could have made. I understand you were talking about a custom hood to make the system work in the xA. But the xB has more hood clearance, and might not have required a new hood.

Explaining that to the company, and helping them recognize what the market truly is could have helped your case quite a bit. We all know that every time someone even hints at a new option for forced induction the xB owners jump all over it. As seen in your post, this isn't the case for the xA.

I'm not bitter and it's not exactly what I wanted it's exactly what the company wanted and instructed me to do as with many polls that are run whether it be a political poll or something simple like this there has to be an accurate sample if it cannot be obtained then it is a waste of time for them. The exclusion of the Xb owners was because this kit was going to be specifically made for the Xa and they were thinking of messing with the xb later but the Xa was the primary focus there are enough kits for the XB and the kit was going to be desighned to fill a gap in the market just for the Xa. I think your right in the aspect it should have been a poll but I didn't know how to set one up. The good news is I talked with them this morning and made an appointment to bring my car in and have there R&D department look at it whether it bears any fruit I don't know or not but I am trying to get this thing moving. I was not blaming folks on here for lack of intrest I just didn't realize people who had other kits for an XB would get involved I put it in the Xa section. I thought they were seperated. I did not realize they were so intergrated. keep in mind I came from a forum where everyone stayed in there section. I will have to get used to this so sorry rollhard. Rtons could you possibly facilitate a poll of intrest since I don't know how too and then I could give it to them. If people really are interested. I didn't mean to come across the wrong way believe me. I was only doing what I was instructed to do.

oh one more promising thing I forgot to add they made a turbo kit for the GMC typhoon I believe it was I don't think there were many of those cars that came out so maybe they will do the supercharger for the Xa once again my apoligies to rollhard as I have given you many compliments on your knowledge in the past I'm sorry. instead of getting flustered that i couldn't get what they asked. I should have asked somone how to run a poll.

well I don't know it's in the thought stage at the moment and I cannot get a simple sample of intrest for the company of a yes or no on whether people would be interested ultimately it's your decision once it's produced. no offence rollhard but you already have a system and there are alot of Xa owners that don't and would like a street legal system. I spend hours on the phone and emailing a company generating interest they want to see a sample of simple yes or no's and instructions went out the window so I give up I'm going to call them in the morning and tell them I'm sorry I wasted their time that I couldn't get a simple sample of intrest. FROM Xa OWNERS ONLY the kit was going to be made by Applied technologies research these guys used to work for NASA and have set the world record with a few cars and do behind the scenes work for alot of companies. they make alot of the current kits that are on the market for alot of cars. I've done alot of leg work for the Xa owners in trying to get projector lights made for us and in trying to get this kit made with no reward or sponsership for myself. I give up whenever something good comes along it always has to be messed up by somone.

I hope you dont think by my speculation that it has messed up any opportunity. If it has, then I appologize. I was simply asking questions. Yes, I have an xb and its boosted already but I was going to pick up an Xa for another project. If a company is serious about making something, they will do their research and not just go by the words of a single customer saying that this and that many people on the forums are interested. Its not bashing or talking trash...thats just making smart business decisions. If a kit can be made under or around the $3k mark, that would be awesome. Im not knocking anyone here. Again, Im sorry if my post messed anything up for you even though I dont know how it could have.

like rtons said I just need to run a poll sorry again for my misunderstanding but I would like to have a good sample to give them of interested people.

Yes! I am very interested!

like rtons said I just need to run a poll sorry again for my misunderstanding but I would like to have a good sample to give them of interested people.

Here buddy, this might help.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1742553#1742553

ghostrider25, I now many of us xA owners are still interested in this kit( I'm still interested). I can post at xAtuner to see if anymore xA owners would be interested if there is still more time. or did you tell them already that there wasn't enough interest?

there's time thanks for the intrest kyle and thanks for accepting my apology rollhard

there's time thanks for the intrest kyle and thanks for accepting my apology rollhard

NP man, no apology was ever needed. We are here to just help eachother out! :P

I took the car in they took measurments and looked at the ecu and the wiring extensively for about 3 hours they did tons of measurments I assume for autocad and removed and reinstalled parts. Then I was told that it would be considerd and they would call me if they decide to make the kit and set up a time for me to drop my car off for 4 months for fitament building and tuning so as of right now I am not going to bug them I may call them in a month if i haven't heard from them to see if anything is going to happen but I imagine they will let me know one way or another so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Cool, I hope they decide to make a supercharger for the xA.

:bow: Thank you ghostrider25 for all that you have done for all us xA owners :bow:

Now I just hope they call you.

me too

:bow: big thanks from me as well :bow:

just giving a sunday august the 13th update. I still haven't heard a word yet I am gining them until friday and then I am calling them. I've already started talking to my major sponsor about some options so if this one doesn't pan out then I'm going to keep pounding dirt until I either run out of companies or I go crazy whichever one comes first and I'm still trying to get a company to make projector headlights for the Xa. I have alot of projects going on and boy do I wish I was rich and had a manufacturing plant. I'd be all over the Xa. but I don't so all I can do is pound the dirt and send emails and make calls. I'll keep everyone posted

Well, it's saturday, any updates?

actually yes I am sett october 16th as the date to drop the car off. this is the soonest they can get to work on it they said they have to make a wiring harness for the ecu replacement and it would take at least a month for them to make a supercharger then test fitting tuning and hopefully in the end the power I'm looking for and an available option for the Xa they have also decided to make it so the hood doesn't have to be replaced to save cost they are still churning Ideas and once it is done they will sell them to be relabled by distributors they don't directly sell to the general public. I will say they did an outstanding job on my old VW golf turbo they did the exhaust turbo ecu and changed all the turbo piping and put a very nice front mount on it so I am anxious to see what they come up with as always I will give updates when I get them but I haven't posted alot about it right now because I'm not being told a whole lot yet and ideas are still swirling around for the desighn. At least something is being done so I am excited. lets just all keep our fingers crossed as my car becomes a guinea pig.

Cool, so hopefully we will see a new supercharger for us xA owners the beginning of next year.

I'm excited too, Can't wait for more updates.

hopefully and hopefully I will still have a intact motor lol with alot more power

good luck bro, cant wait to see what happens

thank me too as long as my motor doesn't blow I'll be a happy camper but I'm pretty confident in them obviously or I wouldn't let them touch my ride. I've had them do work for me in the past and it was prototype stuff and it was extremely high quality work yeah they took forever and I'm impatient and wanted my car back but when i got it back the job was done perfect down to the last minute detail and hopefully thats whats going to happen this time. but I will keep ya'll updates and when it's done and they are done with the patents I'll post up the pics. these things just take time.