View Full Version : HKS, Hotchkis, Cusco, OTG suspension upgrade - 56k warning


Toy_xbox
07-05-2004, 08:36 PM
Finally after months of waiting I just finished the suspension upgrade on my box

List of parts:

HKS hipermax WG coilovers

Hotchkis swaybars re-powder coated candy purple

Cusco frame brace re-powder coated candy purple

One Ton Garage 10mm axle spacers

TRD stainless steel braided brake lines – not completed another 5 week back order

EBC “Green Stuff” brake pads – not completed another 2 week back order

I still need to roll the rear fenders, passenger side is rubbing in front when going into turns. I have the settings set to soft for a smoother ride and playing with the coilovers to get the right setting to avoid hitting the frame brace going over speed bumps. With the 19" Axis Spider rims It still appears not to be low enough but I do plan on adding a new TRF lip kit when it comes out...

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TAAdA0IWxEQ*q3c2994ql8rb7xCsoC3GMc9EcOyucu67E1kurkLHp624u98BRjHsGeIsy88fK8gvB3XSRE8ya8iA!0AMWNdMrlRjOx5xcpzAhsTHsZw8XQ/HKS%20front%201.jpg?dc=4675476587078263099

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JdeezXB
07-05-2004, 08:43 PM
that looks great man if u don't mind me askin how much was it?

camoboXb
07-05-2004, 08:43 PM
Wow. Looks hot.

scioninla
07-05-2004, 09:03 PM
Nice job Dave....
This is a car you gotta see in person. Dave's car is the cleanest xB you'll find. Meticulously detailed and everything goes well.

You also gotta see the car computer. He is the first Scion with a pc to my knowledge..I know several have done it thereafter.

Toy_xbox
07-05-2004, 09:08 PM
that looks great man if u don't mind me askin how much was it?

Thanks... it would of cost me I think around $1600 - $1800 for just the parts if Ihad to buy everything, but alot was in trade for work I did on computers. I did all the labor, so that had to save me major $$ the only negative expense was re-powder coating the swaybars, frame brace, spring perches, tie down brackets and other misc brackets... that was another $250 but over all it was worth it. The waiting to get all the parts together was the worst part!

rolex87
07-05-2004, 09:57 PM
Nice job, really! That looks sweet. I wish I lived in SoCal sooo bad :x :cry: .

Mike R.
rolex87

Munch
07-05-2004, 10:10 PM
Sweet 8)

DJ_X_Trodinaire
07-05-2004, 11:31 PM
lets swap keys! :shock:

xBSciontist
07-06-2004, 12:07 AM
That's a PHAT looking ride. Any rubbing?

Toy_xbox
07-06-2004, 02:52 PM
That's a PHAT looking ride. Any rubbing?

It rubs on the passenger side rear only when making turns. I hope to be borrowing a lip roller to use to flatten all the lips and give me more room for adjustment. The biggest concern I have now is the frame brace, I might have to go up 3/8 of inch to keep from getting hung up on speed bumps :cry:

hotluva
07-06-2004, 03:07 PM
Looks SCHWEET! and I bet it handles like a cat on carpet-- well at least compared to stock

westsype
07-06-2004, 03:30 PM
Nice Bro! I don't like the rims very much but you do have a phat ___ suspension setup.

squirrel
07-06-2004, 04:01 PM
Dave's xB is suppa clean. Ask him to post pics of his rear strut tower bar. He modified a front bar for the rear! I was lucky enuff to see it in person at TORC.

xB_ey
07-06-2004, 04:02 PM
dave...representin BCP to the fullest...

nice job, Man :!:

phatfront
07-06-2004, 04:29 PM
I just recieved the same coil overs.

any pros/cons?

in your pics, and what height are you running the coil overs at.

looks really good!!

Toy_xbox
07-06-2004, 04:54 PM
Dave's xB is suppa clean. Ask him to post pics of his rear strut tower bar. He modified a front bar for the rear! I was lucky enuff to see it in person at TORC.

Thanks Brad,

Here's the shot of my shock tower brace/LCD panel mount...

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SgAAACQWhzt2cv46URmSyqv2FQpuHGVR0eBzBXyV6bXQulISTPSEwE6IAWSIMiguXcaD8Cx!uj8mH3ZeOTWpqHF5MSZ5uYP9!yGFrPeY3QN0um6YbyV4Ow/panel%20brace.JPG?dc=4675472857926438392

Toy_xbox
07-06-2004, 05:04 PM
I just recieved the same coil overs.

any pros/cons?

in your pics, and what height are you running the coil overs at.

looks really good!!

Pro's: :D

It is HKS!

Quality fit and finish (HKS Purple)


Con's: :cry:

Front spring perches where not finished IMO so I powder - coated them to match the adjustment rings.

Hard to get to the front strut adjusting screw.

No pillow mounts included with kit.

squirrel
07-06-2004, 05:32 PM
See! I told you guys!

You're welcome Dave!

Dave's xB is suppa clean. Ask him to post pics of his rear strut tower bar. He modified a front bar for the rear! I was lucky enuff to see it in person at TORC.

Thanks Brad,

Here's the shot of my shock tower brace/LCD panel mount...

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SgAAACQWhzt2cv46URmSyqv2FQpuHGVR0eBzBXyV6bXQulISTPSEwE6IAWSIMiguXcaD8Cx!uj8mH3ZeOTWpqHF5MSZ5uYP9!yGFrPeY3QN0um6YbyV4Ow/panel%20brace.JPG?dc=4675472857926438392

squirrel
07-06-2004, 05:35 PM
Dave, whose rotors up front? Island? Wow, nice powdercoating on the rear tow hook!

JdMBboFSD
07-06-2004, 05:43 PM
damn im jealous.....i wany my bcp to look like that...good job...

pitchedup
07-06-2004, 06:04 PM
thats a nice setup; how does the box handle now compared to the stock suspension?

Toy_xbox
07-06-2004, 06:27 PM
Dave, whose rotors up front? Island? Wow, nice powdercoating on the rear tow hook!

Yeah they are new factory rotors that Island Motor Sports www.islandmotorsports.com slotted, cross drilled and plated.

thats a nice setup; how does the box handle now compared to the stock suspension?

To be honest I haven’t driven it hard yet I still need to roll the fender lips and not sure on how stiff I want the struts and shocks yet… but from what I have driven, it is like it is teasing me… I never really had stock suspension so I can only compare it to the TRD/Waydo sportivo struts/shocks and springs that where installed from the dealer. But from what I can tell so far is that the adjustability is awesome the soft setting is much like the TRD/Waydo setup smooth and just right for daily driving. I just wish the adjustment screw was as easy to get to in the front as easy as it is in the rear. After getting the wheel lips rolled and the front inner fender panels better secured, I will find me a big parking lot and have fun with it :D :twisted: :D

CubiXBb
07-06-2004, 07:00 PM
Hey Dave, would you happen to have the part number for those HKS coilovers? Thanks 8)

Toy_xbox
07-06-2004, 07:16 PM
Hey Dave, would you happen to have the part number for those HKS coilovers? Thanks 8)

I think they have been replaced with the Hipermax C series but I will check on it... I ordered mine last December and can't remember if there was a actual part # on the box

xBSciontist
07-06-2004, 07:25 PM
Do you have pics of your engine compartment? :?:

phatfront
07-06-2004, 08:04 PM
hipermax C is the new setup.
hopefully they come with pillow mounts.

If not, Where did you get yours?

Toy_xbox
07-06-2004, 09:32 PM
Do you have pics of your engine compartment? :?:

This is one with the CF engine cover tinted to match the BCP. I am working on a new engine cover and other as Nilo would say "Top Secret" mods for the engine bay

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQCJAkQXtZeB4VNzach7q*t9KRfqKWQi0JVTM3iixde7b4l8wlSN6tso!IeZlq4smF1v4nbg0QzzzfKDekKGk4zcYNL*anltDDyg1FIbLIg2O0ZVGLUy002Mvc2OYyLg/CF%26SB%20close%20up.JPG?dc=4675472858711526599



I also have plenty of pics on my MSN site if you have time to check them out. It has more mod stuff and my 0ld 72 Celica I am still working on...

http://groups.msn.com/GearheadJr/shoebox.msnw

hahajoey
07-06-2004, 09:54 PM
how much if any do u rub ur rear or front wheels?

Toy_xbox
07-06-2004, 10:18 PM
hipermax C is the new setup.
hopefully they come with pillow mounts.

If not, Where did you get yours?

xB ey would know more about the Hipermax C series

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14346

I just bought new pillow mounts, boot liners and dust seals from Toyota. I just think that for the amount of money HKS could of provided the pillow mounts… maybe they design it that way on purpose? Not sure?

how much if any do u rub ur rear or front wheels?

Front wheels appear to be fine but I worry at a full turn if I was to hit something like a curb it would probably do some damage to the fender as well as the tire and rim. I am checking into maybe adding some hard stops to avoid this, mini trucks use to do this when they were lowered. :wink:

On the rear the driver side appears to be fine, but the passenger is like 1/8 of inch more metal on the lip and the edge of the tread hits it when making turns. I could easily grind it off but will wait to roll the wheel wells for a more finished look.

xBSciontist
07-07-2004, 03:29 AM
"This is one with the CF engine cover tinted to match the BCP. I am working on a new engine cover and other as Nilo would say "Top Secret" mods for the engine bay"

Cool! One of the cleanest rides I've seen. Do you got ground wires hooked up too? If so, any noticeable difference in performance?

JdeezXB
07-07-2004, 03:35 AM
who makes that strut bar ? how much?

Toy_xbox
07-07-2004, 02:23 PM
who makes that strut bar ? how much?

They are Hotchkis, I think about $185, painted to match BCP

fusionscion
01-18-2006, 04:05 PM
i cant see the pix? no worky :doh:

fotd710
01-18-2006, 04:45 PM
looks great! why purple and not something closer to the BCP?

Toy_xbox
01-19-2006, 05:13 PM
looks great! why purple and not something closer to the BCP?

My HKS WG coilovers are purple so I wanted to carry the theme to all the suspension parts.... I wanted to do a gold or platinum colors but the "Candy Purple" was the best looking powder coat to me at the time. I recently got the air runner system and trying to get them painted to match the rest of the suspension but two attempts have not resulted the look I am going for. So maybe one more try at the purple, if that comes out bad maybe I will re-do everything in gold or platinum :wink:

fusionscion
01-19-2006, 05:53 PM
u wanna sell the hks coilovers?

Toy_xbox
02-09-2006, 07:30 PM
u wanna sell the hks coilovers?

I was going to but I have found out that you can no longer get the Hipermax WG series and I only have 13k miles on these sort of a JDM collectors item :wink: and who know's maybe I will get another box and rock some 15" wheels and tires maybe even a "Lover Soul" kit :shock:

Good News got my Air Runner pieces back and they match the rest of my suspension pieces major Thanks to Cabe Toyota for the hook up!!! Check it out...

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SQDhAuIVdyoQLnt16DFHXBZm7U7bXLfwnF2xcIGRIfLnNnKIIlg12q1FYLW0LRBN5FcVidEz5kZFIwkps480ABuVpTOzvdQx6Y4Vz6xRKr!nM0cLStlgHg/AR_Purple01.jpg