If any of you have a question about what is legal or not for Ct motor vehicles please feel free to ask. i.e equipment, moving violations, ect.

Most New England states follow similiar rules and regulations.

ScionCop 8)

I was just wondering if "Road Head" is illegal?

good question very serious about that...would that be legal if the passenger has her seatbelt on still?

Jeff

Truth is the only violation is having sex in a public place. If a driver can maintain proper speed and stay in his lane then I'll give him props as long as the chic is hot.


ScionCop 8)

Advisory: Bumpy roads may cause harm

now that's just amazing....

Jeff

:wink: That's what I'm talkin about baby!!!

10-4 officer, Just remember to forget about the white xB with Iowa plates, if I ever get in your neck of the woods.

Open road, here I come (cum, lol)!

For those of you who have TV/DVD monitors in your vehicles be aware that you can and will be arrested for playing XXX materials that is viewable to the public. I don't have my code book with me as a write this message but of course it has to do with some sort of Illicet Display / Nudity violation.

Last week we arrested a party for playing pornos in his vehicle system. The owner didnt realize that it was showing on all monitors that were located on the rear headrest of the passenger and driver seats, But it was and a caller / complainant informed the PD by cell phone as he followed the vehicle. The vehicle was stopped and the operater was arrested.

ScionCop 8)

wow i didn't know you can get arrested for that... a lot of our customers do that... thanks for the heads up... no pun intended...

In some states, say Arizona and Texas I believe, fellatio falls under the old anti sodomy laws and is illegal, so road head gets ya a misdemeanor for an illegal sex act and a moving violation.

As far as Illegal sex acts for the most part if your in a "private setting" with a consenting "adult" (Ct is 16 yrs or older as long as it's not more than a five year differance) (example a 16 yr old and a 21 yr old is illegal) pretty much anything goes. As long as your not risking "serious bodily harm or death)
Example of serious bodliy harm would be whiping to the point of skin getting cut and needing stitches. An example of Risk of death would be the hanging (choking) while engaging in sex for ultimate climax.

Sex in a Motor Vehicle or playing porno are violations of of Public Disturbance / Nuisance laws.

I hope we can move on to different topics. The sex crimes are getting killed now.

ScionCop 8)

I have a question as far a lighting:

If you have interior lighting ( Example: Blue Cold Cathode tubes) that can only be visible if an officer stops you (There might be a little blue glow on the inside linner) will he/she be able to give you a ticket for that?

If you can't understand my question let me know...

Thanks!

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18813

I don't know if this is old news, hell its probably been discussed elsewhere, I lve in TX,
And I have heard about it being illegal to have HID unless its stock or somthing....

Also, If I had say... a bunch of Orange Neon under my car, (and you couldn't see the
tubes) whats the code book say about that...?


Hey thanks for the free consult, it's nice to be able to ask someone who is willing to
shoot us straight....

-TR

This applies for Connecticut M.V. Law

Statuet 14-96p Illegal use of colored lights Fine $93.00 (Infraction)

Exterior: It is "illegal" to use any extra "colored" lights on the exterior of a vehicle other than the designated colors set by the department of M.V. It is "legal" to add to the designated lights set forth by Dept M.V. I.E. extra brake, signal, reverse lights.
Violations are but not limited too-- Lighted License plates. hoodlights (Water sprayer), neon tubes, tire valve lights ect.
Situation#2 "This is very strict don't even play"
Red and Blue lights are designated strictly for Police and fire "Only". Such use of red/blue colored lights interior or exterior visibale in plain site would fall under violation of Misuse of Designated Emergency Lights for Public Saftey Vehicles (Felony)---You will be cuffed and brought in.

The interior lights that I saw at the dealership (Daytime) for cupholders and footpedals are safe in "My" opinion since it is not visable from outside the vehicle. Put it this way if you can see it from outside the vehilce it's a violation.

ScionCop 8)

Shawn I'm not sure what You mean by smoked taillights. Are you talking about tinted covers that attach to your lamps?

As for as the person who asked me about the Orange neon lights. It is Illegal unless your car was part of a car show.

Remember the violation applies with "operation of a M.V." It would be wise to shut it off when driving and to turn it on when lets say your chillin at the local spot or car wash hang out.
ScionCop 8)

hmmm i always wondered...would it be a violation if ur car was chrome? i mean actually dipped in chrome or painted on? i would think it would be a distraction but i'm not quite sure....i see my car as a distraction as it is!!!

and another thing....can cops really roll up to a bunch of kids at a parking lot and ask them to leave if there's nothing posted about tresspassing or loitering and noone calls a complaint in?

Jeff

ScionCop, U R THE MAN!!!!!!! Totally cool of you to answer questions like this, so thanks.

I got a quick question, although it doesn't necessarily pertain to cars. . .

I'll start off by givin a cliff notes version of the story. I am a moron. Had a our 19 year old DD(he can't drink legally and doesn't anyway) drive me to get booze (we are all legal). I bought a lot of booze, and on the way back I ask him for a hand to help carry it back, since it's a long walk from the parking lot. Long story short, a cop sees us and now it's my fault that our very cool, non-crime committing good 19 year old kid driver has a MIP violation. I guess I'm beyond fighting it, and the more I tried to fight out of the ticket for my friend, the more the cop threatened to give me a furnishing alcohol to minors ticket. . . any suggestions on where to go from here? I think my friend is probably screwed. . . and also any commonly made stupid mistakes you would like to let me in on?

mr scion cop..
I was wondering if i could tint my windshield... I have a sensitive skin and i was wondering if i could tint it slightly.. not the super dark one... i live in CALIFORNIA and I know it is illegal to tint the front to windows but the cops that have seen me and the cops that i always see guarding the mall dont stop me for it. What is going on? how come they don't give me a ticket on it? :lol: :lol:

If I get pulled over, can I use my light or UV sensitivity as a defense? I do have severe ACNE outbreaks when I get sunlight on me too long... :(

If a Town or City has a local Ordinace regulation (and just about every place does) then yes they can roll up on you and move you along. If they see you enough times (Cops discression) you can be issued a Town / City Ordinance Violation for Loitering. My advise is to stay away from buisnesses especially if they are closed unless the buisness has given direct permission to hang out there like a all night car wash joint.

If you can find a private property open field area and get pertmission you are golden. As long as your not blasting your radios to the point of creating a nuisance (Base carries over very far) your all set.

24 Car wash joints are the safest areas for the City. Be coutroes and pick up after yourselfs and don't blast your radois to loud and you should be good.

ScionCop 8)

If you were walking back from the store just holding the liqour you should be ok. If you had no open containers and your minor had no odor of an alcoholic beverage or no signs of intoxicaion there should be no problem.

Just because a minor is holding a container (closed) in the presence of an adult does not constitute procureing to minors. The minor isn't the one supposed to get the ticket, the adult is. If you the adult claimed the liquor and informed the cop that the kid was just carring it for you I would contest the ticket. Everybody can have there day in court. If your 19 yr old has a clean record and presents himself well in front of the judge (No slang, well dressedm, polite and receptive) the judge may dump the charges.
ScionCop 8)

Try this. Go to your doctor and have him give you documentation about your skin disease. Take the document to your Dept of M.V. and try to get special permission to get that U.V. tint. If the Dept gives you permission they will give you a authorization slip for your tints. If you get pulled over show your Authorization card from Dept M.V. A state sealed Authorization slip will kill any "probable cause" for issuance of a ticket. If you get a ticket make an appointment with that Cop's Supervisor and explain your situation. Be sure to make your apointment A.S.A.P for your ticket wil get mailed to Traffic court and they won't be able todo anything then. The Supervisor can void the ticket if the P.D. still has it. Just remember not to burn the Cop that gave you the ticket. I'll have to come looking for you j/k

ScionCop 8)

This is going to blow your mind. Many people will get into a heavy discussion or flat out arument when receiving a Ticket from a cop. Wrong, All you have to do is ask a simple question and your all set.

Just politely ask the Officer "Can you please inform me how I may contest this ticket for I beleive I have a valid reason for doing so"

If you do it right the Officer will show exaclty how to fight the ticket that he just gave you. Officers arent taking anything personal when issuing tickets they are just doing there job. Most people think that Officers are getting a kick out of giving tickets--Not true. Cops are people too and understand that people are strapped for cash or have other hardships in there lives. It amazes me that a lot of people won't ask that.

Avoid getting confrontational, emotional and be receptive to the Officer. You just may get a verbal warning. To be honest with you many times when a Cop gives out a Ticket it's because the citizen "asked for it".

ScionCop 8)

Try this. Go to your doctor and have him give you documentation about your skin disease. Take the document to your Dept of M.V. and try to get special permission to get that U.V. tint. If the Dept gives you permission they will give you a authorization slip for your tints. If you get pulled over show your Authorization card from Dept M.V. A state sealed Authorization slip will kill any "probable cause" for issuance of a ticket. If you get a ticket make an appointment with that Cop's Supervisor and explain your situation. Be sure to make your apointment A.S.A.P for your ticket wil get mailed to Traffic court and they won't be able todo anything then. The Supervisor can void the ticket if the P.D. still has it. Just remember not to burn the Cop that gave you the ticket. I'll have to come looking for you j/k

ScionCop 8)

Thanks a lot... i have a derma appointment next week and will ask the doc about this... :P

If you get flat out caught on radar for speeding doyourself a favor and don't act stupid with the cop. Once the Cop tells you that he stopped you for speeding just say "Yes Sir, Sorry Sir" and have your papers ready. Denial will just get the Cop mad.

Once the Cop finishes talking to you, your question is--"Sorry for speeding sir and thank you for making me realize that I was doing so", "If there is any possible way you can avoid giving me a ticket or reduce my amount it would help me out a lot for I have some financial difficulties" Be proffessional (no slang)

In many cases if you do it right be ready to get shocked.

ScionCop 8)

hey thanks a lot for our replies i think you've become like a god of the NE!!

Jeff

A chrome car would be illegal. It reflects all light and becomes a driving hazard to other motorists. I had chome pinstriping in my '78 Nova in High School, and got busted for it. I didnt get a ticket, but the cop made sure i removed it.

a chrome car in NJ is NOT illegal. a cop might deem you a public hazard (like a big mirror shining light into peoples eyes and blinding them). but def. not illegal.

i have seen one car mostly chrome and a few bikes all chrome/polished. never had a problem with them.

cb, if you got friction from pinstripes, then the cop had it in for you.
(btw, it was nice to see you at vip 2)

You are a great help Scioncop. I would never believe that a Cop is giving us advise about how to talk to a Cop when getting pulled over. I only wish some of the cops in my town were as cool and straight forward as you are. It seems like everytime you try to be nice to an officer, he all of a sudden thinks that you are beeing a smart ___, and tries to give you more of a hard time.

Thanks for answering everyone's questions though.

No problem helping you guys out. I'm actually helping both side Civilian and Law Enforcement.
If I can give you information that will make your life easier and the job of a Police Officer easier than why not. It's not like if teaching you to cheat the system.

The information that I give you is down right true and is not intended to swindle other Officers. I would never do that. If you are better informed of the Law then chances are you will not fall into violation and it would make less work for Officers in your area to worry about.

ScionCop 8)

[quote="Eddie8124"]Shawn I'm not sure what You mean by smoked taillights. Are you talking about tinted covers that attach to your lamps?
quote]

exactly and how dark can you have them??

Where in CT are you from?

Do you happen to know if the State Police have laser guns in use? If so, would I be likely to be pulled over if their gun happened to malfunction while aimed at my car? :P

hehehe I was considering fabricating one of those. . . a home made hidden jammer for radar and laser. . . it wouldn't be too hard to hide something like that and to have a good hidden switch ( I like kill switches that short the fuse. . . that way it can't be reactivated until you replace the fuse ) but I don't want to risk getting busted. . . and I'm pretty sure that question wouldn't get friendly answers from any cop :twisted: . Hahahaha. But it's worth a shot right?

I am going to work today. I will look it up and post the info sometime tonight. I haven't delt with smoked tail lamps.

ScionCop 8)

Adam CSP uses lidar detectors. Its a single shot ray (Pull Trigger) pin pointed right to your vehicle. That means that radar detectors are usesless because if you pick up a signal it means you been caught already.

A smart Officer would only give you a verbal or warning ticket if his ladar reliability is questionable. No way i'm going to Traffic Court and vouch on a defective machine.

You live in Ct so you know that CSP is very aggressive and they don't play around. My advice of course is to stay with in the speed limits and be safe.

86 mph and above on a High Way or 56 mph or above on a state road means you'll be seeing the Judge on a Reckless Driving Charge. Not good

ScionCop 8) Located Deep in Ct "Wink"

Djctwatt this section is designed to make drivers more aware of the Law so they won't leave them selves open for violations. It is not intended to find ways to cheat the Law but I will tell you this.

If you use a radar Jammer a Cop / Trooper will know. How ? Haha Our secret. If you want to take your chances and get a criminal Mischief 3rd charge on top of your M.V. charges then be my guest.

If you fall in Violation of using a Jammer and speeding especially one that is hidden inside your vehicle then your vehicle will be towed impounded and released back to the owner only after the Judge releases it. Trust me they are in no rush, we've had vehicles for months.

After your vehicles released expect to get an invitation to have your vehicle inspected at DMV which means that your in for a world of hurt. You'll find out that it was easier to just pay a speeding ticket or even easier to stay with in the speed limits.
ScionCop8)

I don't know if this is old news, hell its probably been discussed elsewhere, I lve in TX,
And I have heard about it being illegal to have HID unless its stock or somthing....

Also, If I had say... a bunch of Orange Neon under my car, (and you couldn't see the
tubes) whats the code book say about that...?


Hey thanks for the free consult, it's nice to be able to ask someone who is willing to
shoot us straight....

-TR

Do what I did - wire the side one's into your turn signals and claim them as a safety enhancement....you're adding an extra brake/turn signal which is fine by the rules he quoted ^_^

Some Myths / Tricks....Not True or won't work

Putting pennies in your mouth will cause a ionization factor that will throw off machine

Using MouthWash, Bubble gum, or smoking will help you

Making yourself vommit will lower your Blood Alcohol content

Faking an injury and sending yourself to the hospital to avoid an arrest will work (Hospital does a mandated Blood test that Officer can get with search warrant)

Fleeing the scene of a M.V. accident and then claiming car stolen. Has never worked yet. To many solvabilty factors working against you.

Attempting to switch seats after getting stopped. Sometimes the passenger is worse than the driver. LOL

Trying to fool the Intoxilizer Machine. The machine is designed to detect numerous types of cheating. If someone finds a way we get a new machine. Same machine for years now.

Any questions about D.U.I please let me know.

ScionCop8)

Good to know.

Drinking and driving is one of the lamest things you can do.

Problem with those things is that they are so strong that you may be eligable for a Violation of Illegal Use of High Beams C.G.S. even if it's on normal power meaning at high beam status your going to glow like crazy.

Having a HID itself is not a violation. It's the power that it gives out. If you want to play it safe get the HID with power approved by your state.

HID are like laser beams going into your eyes when looking into the rear view mirror at a vehicle with them behind you.

ScionCop 8)

have you ever pulled someone over for noise pollution? i alwasy thought it would be funny if cops had systems in their cars, and pulled people over for not having a system louder than the cop....i know stupid but funny

Jeff

It is Illegal to have any thing obscuring the tail lamps at any time of the day. It is however legal to have light covers on your headlights during day time hours. Once dawns sets in and lights are necessary the covers must come off.

ScionCop 8)

Could you clarify the question. Systems ? Car -Civilain / Cruiser ?

ScionCop 8)

Djctwatt this section is designed to make drivers more aware of the Law so they won't leave them selves open for violations. It is not intended to find ways to cheat the Law but I will tell you this.

If you use a radar Jammer a Cop / Trooper will know. How ? Haha Our secret. If you want to take your chances and get a criminal Mischief 3rd charge on top of your M.V. charges then be my guest.

If you fall in Violation of using a Jammer and speeding especially one that is hidden inside your vehicle then your vehicle will be towed impounded and released back to the owner only after the Judge releases it. Trust me they are in no rush, we've had vehicles for months.

After your vehicles released expect to get an invitation to have your vehicle inspected at DMV which means that your in for a world of hurt. You'll find out that it was easier to just pay a speeding ticket or even easier to stay with in the speed limits.
ScionCop8)
exactly why I don't have one! hahaha.

basically i was asking if u've ever pulled someone over for noise pollution....loud music and such...the rest was just a fantasy...

Jeff

I've never pulled anyone over for noise Pollution. I have only delt with people who park there cars and blast the music to disturb the neighborhood. So far all people have cooperated with my and either left or turned down the music. And I only do that if a complaint comes in. Otherwise live and let live.

ScionCop 8)

alright i must seem like a question whore but i thought of a good one....i wear sandals/flip flops a lot....is it illegal to drive with them or bare foot?

Jeff

i kno its illegal to drive barefoot. a cop almost gave me a ticket for that gayness but anyway

Thats a weird one. I never heard of anybody getting charged for driving barefoot. I'll look it up. I can't see how flip flops are a violation since some nationalities (Eastern Indians) use flip flops like we wear sneakers.

ScionCop 8)

Keep the questions comming. Thats what I'm here for. This session has almost 600 reads already and growing fast which is good.

I want you guys to "know" the Law and not just go on assumptions, myths and all the other ballony people who "think" they know the Law are saying.

Ignorance is no excuse for violation of the Law. Any Judge will tell you that.

It is Illegal to have any thing obscuring the tail lamps at any time of the day. It is however legal to have light covers on your headlights during day time hours. Once dawns sets in and lights are necessary the covers must come off.

ScionCop 8)
just a little correction. dawn is the start of the day (sunrise). i believe you meant dusk, when the sun sets (night time)

in nj headlights are to be used 1/2 hour before sunset till 1/2 hour after sunrise. also anytime it is raining. so pull over, pop the covers off and continue on your way.

alright i must seem like a question whore but i thought of a good one....i wear sandals/flip flops a lot....is it illegal to drive with them or bare foot?

Jeff
driving bare foot is illegal, flip-flop/sandals are ok. (weird, i know)

the bare foot thing is more for your safety, if you hopped into your car bare foot to go get a bottle of coke at the loacal 7-11, and had an accident.
you would need to get out of your car and get to safety, now there can be broken glass from your headlights, rusty metal, hot black top, battery acid, hot motor oil, the list is endless.

now if you had shoes on, you could walk through it without much risk.

have you ever pulled someone over for noise pollution? i alwasy thought it would be funny if cops had systems in their cars, and pulled people over for not having a system louder than the cop....i know stupid but funny

Jeff

yes, a dodge omni with two Cerwin Vega house speakers pointed out the back hatch.
there was a chase i was trying to listen to on the radio.
the omni turned up the system so loud i could not hear my radio.
so, i had to stop them.
(the amazing part is this happened at the intersection of polcie HQ and fire HQ)
i might have just warned them but the shift sgt. and 2 capt.'s came out of HQ and put some more heat on the situation.

Thanks on the correction. My bad (Dawn / Dusk).

I hate when supervisors try run your show, I had a Lt try and do that to me once on a car stop. A car that I pulled over had a driver that had some odor of an alcoholic beverage on his breath but the driver appeared to be ok. Some minor Nystagmus but good mechanical movements and speech wasn't slurry.

At this time Lt shows up on the scene and is hungry for a pinch. I conducted a field sobriety test on the driver and he passed. The Lt wanted to be more persistant and ordered me to do it again. I said "No" and had the driver get into his vehicle. For safe measures i had the driver park his vehicle and call for a ride. Trust me the driver cooperated and did as I asked. Lt was fuming and began to bust my chops as soon as I cut the driver lose. I told him if he had a beef we could discuss it in the Chiefs Office. Lt got more ____ed and sure enough I was in the Office the very next morning.

The Chief was already briefed by the Lt when I arrived. The Chief asked me to explain myself. All I said was "Chief before I explain myself I want to say, My Stop my Discression". Chief said "OK" now tell me about your stop. I explained how I performed my duties as a Officer and conducted The Field Sobriety Test as per C.G.S. and found no probable cause for an arrest on my first attempt. For safe measures I had the driver park his vehicle and call a ride and that the driver cooperated and did so.

The Chief said "Looks like your in compliance to me", "good bye and thanks for comming in". I replied, "No need to thank me Chief my 4 hour overtime slip for comming in for this meeting will be on your desk tonight"

I left and all I heard was a ____ storm as I left the Office. I never got bothered again by any Supervisor. As long as I am in compliance with C.G.S. I'll do what I chose to do not what they want me to do. Thats what a Union is for.

ScionCop 8)

hmmm Two cops from the thread of ONE!!! awesome deal!!!!!

Jeff

Hey guys, sorry if I'm being sorta redundant. . . I live in CA, and am not sure if radar detectors are illegal in CT or not. . .

assuming they are legal, how much does it ____ you off when you pull someone over and they have a radar detector? Should I bother trying to hide it? Btw, I don't consistently speed and really do use more as a reminder to slow down then as an excuse to speed. . . I really enjoy having that thing, as I have been speeding many a time and not realized it. And that little annoying box beeps and reminds me to slow down.

a sgt stopped a car for running a red light, i was dispatched for back up.
the sgt had half of a field toss done and didn't find anything.
the sgt ordered me to issue summons for the light and no seat belt.

i asked why i needed to issue, cause it was his stop.
he said he didn't have a summons book taken out, and i had to issue.

i refused, i did not witness the incident therefore could not issue.

i was not about to go to court with this story


good thing was he was not about to run to the capt/cheif saying i failed to do as ordered.

Scioncop -

first of all, thanks for all your advice, it was very informative and interesting. I am a few weeks away of getting my TC :twisted: , and am thinking of buying a radar detector. Do you think it's worth the money and do they work as well as advertised?

Radar in Ct is illegal atleast for now. I never get ____ed off when I see someone with radar detectors. Why should I? I do get ____ed when people are driving with absolutely no regard for the saftey of others.

ScionCop 8)

Was it a Summons or an Infraction Ticket ? 14-299 ?

I had a Sgt do that to me once. I wrote the ticket and my backing simply said "On this date this Officer issued Infraction # by request of Sgt(Name). Please refer to Sgt(Name)'s report for the M.V. stop. The Sgt never asked me to write a ticket for him again. No way I'm letting him slide out of paperwork by doing it for him. All legit--I can't write his observations.


ScionCop 8)

Did you know? Law Enforcement have decoy radar transmitters that send out signals for you to detect. They are randomly placed on Highway and State roads

Why?
They use your own radar to slow you down by making you pick up the signal. I think that it's a pretty clever trick since so many people have radar detectors. It's like having a little cop in your car telling you to slow down. LOL

So yes I think it's worth you getting one but I don't think that they work like the vendors say. When it's really a cop you'll be hit so fast you won't know what happened.

Basically your playing Russian Rulet (no-pun intended). When that beep goes on you'll be thinking is he really there. Either or, you'll slow down or get pulled over win-win for Law Enforcement. Now that you know this maybe you'll be better inclined to do the right thing.

ScionCop 8)

i've busted people that had the radar detector beeping away.
after i finished my paper work i asked why they didn't slow down if their detector was going off.
they said 'it goes off all the time; i never know when it’s real or false'


i just laugh my ___ off later...

as far as the effectiveness of radar detectors

i've seen local towns using radar guns that have been around for 10-15 years. so any radar detector should work for picking them up.

but the state/county has a different set of tools. lidar, aircraft some other things...
most detectors over 2-3 years are just taking up space. they are outdated to the new equipment and don't work well.

On one night I observed a car swerving on the road. I lit up and pulled the vehicle over. Of course the vehicle pulled up and over a curb knocking down a mailbox. The driver has the nerve to ask me "What's the problem Officcccccccer"? I held myself together.

I asked the driver if he had been drinking. The driver said "Just a little Holy Water". I stayed all pro.
I asked the driver to hand me his papers. Instaed of giving me his License and registration he gave me his bar tab receipt from a credit card bill. I had the driver stepout of the vehicle after he tried to say his A,B,C's. Slurred of course.

The driver got out of his vehicle and began to tell me how he loved his country. The driver then stood at atettention put his hand over his stomach (not his heart) and began to recite the Pledge of Alleigance. The driver kept tumbling over as he tried to Pledge and then followed it up with a Hail Marry. I'm just about to burst.

I told the driver that I would be conducting a Field sobriety Test on him. The driver said "Hold Up", pulled out a flask from his rear pocket, took a swig and then said that he was ready for the test. I couldn't beleive what I just saw.

The driver was placed into cuffs and tossed into the cruiser. As I was driving to HQ I received information over the radio about a gentleman who took the wrong vehicle at a Valet spot outside a nightclub and had left his vehicle there. Well guess what, I had the dude in my back seat and he had smashed a brand new Mercedez coup (SLK i Think it was).

As I drove to the HQ the driver began to tellme that he was an Ambassador and that he had diplomatic Immunity. Just for kicks I asked him what Country he represented. He said "Brookland Ny". and that he had major connections. I couldn't hold it no more. I actually stopped my cruiser got out and laughed my ___ off.

When I arrived at HQ we had a field day with this guy. No Joke

ScionCop 8)

hey man that's not nice....i hope i never get so drunk that i pledge my allegience over my stomach and claim diplomatic immunity, representing brooklyn

HAHAHA that was a good laugh

Jeff

A lil question for ScionCop...


I wasn't in the car at the time but my friends recently took a trip down to Ocean City, MD....along 50 they got pulled over for speeding...when my friend asked to see the radar gun...the officer replied we don't use Radar we use Nadar....my friend had never heard of this and then said well can I see the Nadar gun....the officer replied that it didn't use a gun?

What is Nadar?

~wC

Beats me. Never heard of NADAR. I'll check with our Traffic pro and I'll get back to you. Might be something new.

ScionCop 8)

As I patroll the valleys of darkness I see no TC
Oh where oh where might that TC be
Oh wait! Look! It just might be
No luck it wasn't a TC

Maybe tomorrow or maybe next week
I bet that TC sure looks sweet

As I leave work all I see
Another vehicle wanting to be

A Civic, Corolla and Protege may try
But a TC is what I want to buy

Oh where oh where is that dam TC
ScionCop8)

OK I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA, NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE TINT LAWS ARE
THEY SAID IT ILLEGAL TO PUT ANY DARK TINT ON THE DRIVER AND PASENGER WINDOWS.......BECAUSE COPS CANT SEE IF THEY ARE CONCELAING A WEAPON OR SOMETHING........HOW ABOUT ORANGE TINT FOR MY HOT LAVA YOU CAN SEE THRU THAT IS THAT LEGAL? I WANT TO PUT ORANGE TINT ON MY WINDOWS PASSENGER AND DRIVER SIDE...
LET ME KNOW

In CT, DMV approves the tints by placing a approval sticker on the window (Front passenger,driver). Cops are required only to look for the sticker. We no longer inspect on the road like in the past.
Violation 14-99g(g) Failure to have tint sticker C.G.S is the offense we charge
As far as the color I'm not sure. I know for a fact that the silver reflective tints are illegal.

When it comes to tints, CA is very different from Ct though. You should call your local DMV or PD and inquire directly. ScionCop8)

Could you check with your buddy about the "Nadar". I asked around and nobody has ever heard of that. I think the cop puled a wise one on your buddy.

ScionCop 8)

do you guys have internet capabilities on ur laptops when they're in the cruiser?

Our laptops are capable but are locked. I can't access the net from my laptop (MDT) that's in the cruiser. I use the PC inside HQ for that. We are allowed usage as long as we don't use it for illegal or immoral purposes like any work PC.

ScionCop 8)

14-299 Failure to obey traffic signal C.G.S. Fine $114.00

Everyone knows that if you pass a red light you are eligable for the charge, but did you know that speeding up on yellow to beat the red light is the same offense. Yup even if you pass on yellow before the light turns red you can get hit with the charge.

If you notice the offense charge doesn't specify "Red" or any color. It just specifies "Failure to obey".

So when you tell the cop the light was yellow--your done. If the Officer can say that you sped up and passed on yellow instead of slowing down you just bought yourself a ticket.

Do yourself a favor slow down and stop for the light. You just might at minimum savew some money and at the most avoid an accident. Be sad if your TC is the first one in the nation to get totaled.

ScionCop 8)

what about those lights that u just can't stop for but u know ur gonna run it....like it turns yellow right as u hit the solid traffic lines on the road and ur going just fast enought hat if u stop, ur gonna be in the middle of the intersection?

You are resposible for making "you" slow down or stop for traffic lights. If you run into the situation where like you said your "going to run the light or stop in the middle of traffic", it means that you were either not paying attention or going to fast when approaching the light.

Traffic lights are timed according to the speed limit. Faster speed limits means a longer yellow light so you can have time and distance to slow down. If you tried to contest a ticket with the reason you stated above then you would have to prove that the light had the wrong timing or that it was defective. Goodluck on that.

If you feel that a light has the wrong timing for the area. Notify your local Public Saftey Office. They have to send someone to inspect the light. If they don't they are accepting liability if the light is wrongly timed and they do nothing about it.

ScionCop 8)

BUMP!!!!

can't let this just die i know we all have questions...keep them coming!!!

if u see a car driving and his tires stick out farther than the fenders, can u pull him over?

Jeff

Ha ha ha I guess everybody has other things to do on the weekend. I was working doubles and had no chance to post anything anyways,

Tires sticking out of fenders. I'll check on that and let you know the exact charge and reason.

Is is a violation but some restrictions apply so I'll let you know.

ScionCop 8)

It was after midnight when I was dispatched to back up StatePolice on the highway for a m.v. accident.
I was so close to the scene when I got the call that I was actually the first Officer there.
When I got there I saw a 18 wheeler fliped on it's side stretched horizontaly across the highway blocking all the lanes. It was a miracle no other cars were involved.

To give you a picture of the accident-4 lightpoles, a good piece of highway barrier (wooden poles and wire), and like 4 highway signs were all smashed to and knocked down. Cars began to approach the accident scene and the traffic jam started with people honking there horns like I was the All Mighty and was about to life the truck off the highway with my superpowers. Cargo from the truck (boxes of food products) were thrown all over the place. It was a complete disaster.

The driver of the truck simply got out of the truck approached me, looked dead into my eyes, chin up almost proud of what he had done.

Burrrrrrp! "Yup, I was drinking" We both began to laugh.
At this time the State Police Major Accident Investigation Team arrived. I looked at the dude, shook his hand and wished him luck. The dude said "Thank" and began to walk the green mile to were the Accident Team was. We both knew he was done.
ScionCop 8)

Is it legal to take the yellow reflector out of my headlights?

I believe that you must have a visable signal light (yellow) on the front of the vehicle as well as the sides and rear.

If you took it out you would be displaying white with your headlights creating a possible hazard since an oncomming vehicle wouldn't be able to tell if your signal light was on.
ScionCop 8)

If any of you have your windows tinted this is what you do if you get pulled over.

1- Roll down your front (Passenger / Driver) windows
2- If it's night time turn your dome light on
3- Keep your hands visible at all times (On steering wheel is best spot)
4-Be polite and honest to the Officer
5-(Extremly Important) If an Officer ask's you why you rolled down your windows your reply is "So you can see inside my vehicle Officer"

This will offer courtesy and a sense of saftey to the Officer who is stopping you. If an Officer feels that you are being cooperative your chances of being let loose on a verbal or written warning is greatly increased.
ScionCop 8)

I can't take this nonsense first of all you do not need to kiss any cops ___ for anything ...if you didn't do anything wrong you have the right to say so... you don't "ask for it" .i too have been on both ends like scion cop except i've seen police write bad summonses just because they didn't like someone... i've seen people arrested because the police wanted to show his ego... police have a job to do and they should do it professionally ...the problem lies in the fact that most people forget the police job is to enforce the law period. in fact i've seen police writing summonses for violations of law that have been changed for years just to fill their quota... and BTW they do have a quota..I'm not trying to flaame on anyone but it sucks when you are law abiding and you get a _____ cop who won't chase after the crackhead stealing your stuff but can give you a summons for an expired inspection sticker

I've been wondering, can you get pulled over for having a License Plate Reflector. The kind that won't let you take a picture for your license plate?

Clarification on the question:

Scion headlights have an orange reflector in them. It's possible to remove this reflector and use a turn signal bulb that flashes orange. The net effect is a headlight that looks clear, but blinks orange. Is this legal?

First of all quotas are illegal and do not exist. When you find a department that uses quotas pleases let me know.
There is however an expectancy for an Officer to do his job like any other employee. If I go on patrol and never do anything I would expect to get called into the Office and get my ___ chewed out like any other employee would. This doesn't constitute a quota.

Second, what I post is not for means of "Kissing an Officers ___". It is a true means of getting the best possible solution from a Police Officer Encounter for both the citizen and the Officer. The better your informed the better off you'll be. If you don't think that my info is of any good to you then don't use it. Simple as that

Third, Officers constitute a work force of "public citizens". Some are worthless but most are decent and understanding. Unfortunately there are cops that no matter what you do your going to the third degree. But if you follow the information I give out your chances are greatly increased of a positive solution.

Forth, the entire purpose of this thread is to shed some light and share information about the Law, Violations, why Officers do what they do, and what you can do to not leave yourself open for a violation.
ScionCop 8)

From what your saying it appears that the yellow relector is a "Cosmetic" item. If it isn't a part of the turn signal system and it isn't a device uses to maintain your lights under compliance (High beam power) then I don't see why it's a violation.

For safe measure you should ask your Scion rep what that reflector is for.
ScionCop 8)

Absolutely Illegal
14-18a Illegal attachments to plates / improper location of plates C.G.S. Fine $-Unk (sorry don't have my book with me)

In Ct it is illegal to have "any" attachments to your plates not authorized by the commisioner of M.V.

Hey scioncop, I was just wondering about legal, and illegal tints. The xb's have the manufacture tint in the back and mine has it in the front to match. Do you think that anyone will have a problem with it? You can still see through it but I live in Watertown and the cops there are pretty crazy. And one more thing, license plate frames, does it matter what they look like or what's on them as long as they don't light up?

In CT the violation is 14-99g(g) failure to have tint sticker C.G.S.

Rear windows and rear windsheild can be tinted with no limits. Front Passenger / driver window must meet D.M.V. requirement. Once you pass inspection they will put a small rectangular sticker on each of your front windows.
Caution.....
1-Placing another layer of tints over the initial tint and covering the sticker will void the sticker.
2-Tampering with the sticker (trying to peel off) will void the sticker.

D.M.V. can provide you with the specifications on legal tints. i.e percentage ect.


Reg Plates Please read post above, It includes frames especially lighted ones
ScionCop 8)

ok, thanx, so you're a statey? How tough was the academy to get through?

No problem, anytime. Sorry but I rather stay anonymous and not give out clues about myself besides the fact that I work Law Enforcement in CT.

Atleast till I get my nasty new Scion (in the Fall) when the SuperCharger and many more options are available.

ScionCop

I'm lookin to get into Law Enforcement, and I was just wondering, what would be my best way to go about doing it, I live in Birmingham, Ala. and I know that I have to go through the academy, but everytime I try to ask a cop or something like that I get the run around.

I don't know about Alabama but I can tell you it's almost impossible to get a job as a cop or Trooper here in CT. Took me years of testing and applying and in the end the old "You gotta know someone" is what got me through the door.

I always did good in the tests and made it to the final cuts but could never get in. Guess why? Because the other candidates had an "In".

All I can say is Test Test Test for every agency that is hiring. Even if you don't plan on working for that agency. Primary factor is to get into the Academy then from there you got your ticket to the show.

Stay in shape and out of trouble. Go on some ride alongs and try to get to know people. Your personality and communication skills must be on point. If the Cops like you and get to know you, they'll remember your name when and if you make it to the final cuts in the testing process.

ScionCop 8)

Is it really that hard? My boyfriend wants to become a state trooper. He's in college right know and he does his co-op in January. Does the college thing give you any kind of edge? He really wants to be a state trooper and hes in good shape except for the whole smoking thing which he's going to quit ASAP. He knows a lot of guys in criminal justice fields but just not any state troopers, corrections officers, Farmington and Watertown cops, and a civil court judge.

the academy was alot of fun and alot of work.
it is like a military boot camp but longer (almost 6 months)
alot of running, alot...
they will break you down then build you up.


as far as getting in, do volunteer work, ride alongs, be helpfull and known by political people. use all your connections.

college (4 years) is mandatory in NJ for state police.

you can pay your own way through the academy (unsponsored) and that will give you a huge edge (your certification is good for three years) for some local towns/counties. they can put your right on the street (not wait 6 months for you to graduate the academy. maybe?)

ed,
i was wondering, what is your funniest stroy from the academy?

we had to brown bag it for lunch and one day they had us play mystery lunch.
we were asked if we had problems/allergies with any foods. nobody spoke up.

the instuctor had us pass our lunches to the right twice, then across the table.

again asked if we had problems with other food, nobody spoke up. so 'eat up'.



about a minute later a recruit tell the instructor he has a problem with the food.

instructor: recruit what is your problem. (yelling like they always did)

recruit: sir, this recruit has a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, without the jelly

the intructor nearly lost it...

instructor: will the recruit that brought in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without the jelly, (starting to chuckle) please bring in jelly for the next time we have mystery lunch.

the whole class broke out laughing. (we did an extra 3 miles pt and 2 reports, for the laughing.)

Yea it's extremley hard. The testing process for State takes over a year from written to final phase. And you have to wait even more for the class to open up.

State Police Academy is harder than the Municipal Academy because the Municipal Academy has to obide by a set of regulations from a co-op on Unions from the Towns. The Union co-op won't let the Academy staff basicly abuse there Town employees (Cops). So we don't get the drill sargent act.

State Employees have no protection and are basicly treated like cadets in Military Basic training. State Academy can dismiss anybody for any reason and the cadet has no recorse but to pack his bags and go home. He can try and lawyer his way back but that hasn't worked yet.

All in all it was fun and I got to meet some wonderfull people. We still keep it touch.
ScionCop 8)

Man it's been a while but I can remember one morning on a PT run, one of the road gaurds had a mishap.

We were running to the end of the property where the end of the Academy Rd meets head on with a Public State Rd.
The road gaurd is to run up to the spot and hold his hand up to stop traffic. Well that day the road gaurd ran full sprint to the spot and met face to face with a vehicle, held his hand up and the vehicle stoped facing him. It was a woman with her kid in the front seat.
The road gaurd must have been feeling ill because he began to vomit like crazy all over his traffic vest. The lady in the car having front row seats to the fiasco began to scream and cover her child's eyes.
The road gaurd maintained his post hand up high but still vomiting. It was like slow motion whatching all of this. The Instructor ordered me to releive him and to put on his vest. I was like ____ that. I releived him but didn't put on a vest full of vomit.

I stood there and when all the recruits passed, I waved the car to go. The car didn't move. I looked into the car and discovered that the lady had vomited all over her kid. The lady began to yell and curse at me calling us maniacs. The lady then drove off.
After a second i just started to luagh my ___ off about the entire situation.
ScionCop 8)

damnit i need funny stuff like that to happen in my life!!!

How bad is chirping your wheels when going from the stop? (light/stopsign/coming out of the parking lot). I am not talking about burning tires till you can't see the sun, but just a little chirp/squeal. There are several reasons I'm asking - 1. my buddy was pulled over for squealing his tires and charged with reckless driving, 2. after supercharging my Matrix I accidentally chirp tires quiet often. 3. When I get a tC I'll be getting used to the new vehicle/5-speed that I haven't driven in 3 years, so there is a good chance I'll be chirping tires quite a bit.

And thanks, you are being of great help!

how about chirping from second to thrid gear...are we allowed to do that? :lol: joke sorry

If your buddy got a Reckless Charge and it stood up in court then it was way more than a Chirp. A reckless charge means that he endangered the life and saftey of others when he committed his violation.

A chirp in itself is not a violation chargable by Law. People chirp for many reasons- bald tires, wet roads, starting on a hill, or you suck at shifting--j/k

If you rev your vehicle to the point it is obvious your doing it for kicks you might be eligable for a charge. I would have to look it up.
ScionCop 8)

If you rev your vehicle to the point it is obvious your doing it for kicks you might be eligable for a charge. I would have to look it up.
That should be some interesting info. I like to shift at around 4-4.5K rpm when starting from the light, that's why I keep the exhaust stock - so that it does not sound too aggressive. But I'm still worried that it will be considered "racing" (I don't race on the streets. That's why God created AutoX :twisted: ).

One night I was dispatched to a 911 call that came from a payphone. The caller said that he needed help and was screaming on the phone. Hearing that I went lights and sirens to the payphone.
Upon arrival I saw the caller (known mental retarded person)on the phone and he was yelling his ___ off to the dispatcher. No one else was around. I let dispatch know who it was so that other units could stand down.
I walked up to the guy and tapped him on his shoulder. The guy turns around and sees me in full Uniform with my cruiser behind me with strobes flashing.
He says "What the ____ do you want can't you see that I'm on an emergency call here". I had to bite my lips shut so that I wouldn't laugh.
I introduced myself (again) and asked what the problem was. He said "I need medical help" No Problem Sir and I had an ambulance drive up and the EMT's got out.
The guy ask's "Are any of you nuclear Nearu Brain Surgeons"? EMT's said "No"
"Well that's what I need because I need to get information out of my head", "I'm not moving to a Nuclear Brain Surgeon comes".
At this time my back up arrives. I told him of the situation and that he had to be the Brain Surgeon. My buddy said "No problem"
My buddy goes up to the guy and introduces himself as the Supreme Brain Grand Puba--no joke
The guy is doing everything my buddy said. My buddy then wraps his head with Super Secret Brain Wrap (Aluminum Foil) and then tells him he has togo to the Hospital for his Brain reading. The guy then went to the Hospital with no further incident

ScionCop 8)

u have some interesting ___ stories!!!! almost interesting enough to become a part-time cop at some point

I haven't forgoten about some of you guys, Tonight I will post the following....

1-Tire / Fender topic
2-Chirping Tires vs Peeling out
3-Reckless Driving / Racing
4-Some Fines (Infraction Amounts)


Update...The new crash test results are in for the Tc and it received 4 star ratings. Your Insurance companies should be getting there prices updated anytime soon.
ScionCop 8)

hey, where did you see that posted?

hi i was wondering if you could lend your knowledge for a minute i was on a major route stopped at a light the speed limit was thirty five at green i took off and the road does a sharp turn about a block from the light then turns back into a 45 mile per hour zone coming into the turn i saw the cop with his radar pointed at me it scared the heck out of me because he was in the meridean and at first i thought he was pointing a gun at me i had my two year old daughter in the car so i slamm on the brakes he doesnt call me over as if hes going to let me pass as i get closer and he sees my face he points me to the side of the road i have one of those hes a punk or thug type of faces so im very polite sir yes sir yes i know i told myself to slow down and he comes back from his cruiser wit a ticket it had three boxes checked off lidar estimate and something else i only know waht estimate is so i checked off the box for a day in court i drive trucks for a living to feed my kids and pay rent this ticket could be the one that takes my liscense away for a while is how can i go about fighting the ticket it was a 125.00 dollar ticket the money isnt the issue its the revocation of the liscense that im trying to avoid and why did he mark all those boxes?

hi i was wondering if.....
Maybe you need to tell us how fast you were really going..

You can contest the ticket and go to court. When you contest the ticket (if it's like CT) you'll sit down with a prosecuter in Traffic Court and will be able to discuss your situation.

Your prosecuter for your state will be able to tell you what your status is as far as revocation of License. Tell the prosecuter that you drive for a living and that you can't afford to lose your license. If this is your first time offense make sure you let the prosecuter know too.

How fast where you going? Was it a Summons or a infraction ? It makes a big difference.

They may give you the contribution of your choice option like in Ct. You make a donation in lue of paying for a ticket. That way you won't get points against your license but you still get a little slap on the wrist if you know what I mean.
ScionCop 8)

Ok I'll make this brief I got a mofo in a cell and his ____ing me off.

(Chirping / Pelling Off)

14-80(a) Operating a MV with out preventing uneccessary noise CGS $60.00
140243 Unsafe movement from a stopped or parked mv (1-Interfering with traffic 2-no reasonable account for saftey)

(Tires sticking out from vehicle)
14-104 No fenders CGS $102.00
14-104(b) Commercial vehicles only With out wheel protectors $102.00

Yellow Reflectors ---Correction, it is a violation
14-96g Failure to have amber reflectors (front of vehicle) $60.00

ScionCop 8) Chat you guys tommorrow I'm going balistic here. Cya

Hey, I know what that guy was talkin about with the reflector. . . at least if it is the same as the xA.

The xA already has a side reflector in accordance with the law. . . so I think you are talking about the amber lens in the turn signal. Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, in CA, signal and tail lights must be amber, and the law specificially stated that the the color may NOT come from the bulb. However I think you may get away with it, if you have have an orange blinker bulb and no lens, so long as you keep your reflector(the one on the front side bumper) orange. Legal, I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it is. . . but so long as you have some kind of amber reflector up front, you should be fine. However if you got clear tails with red bulbs, that IS definitely illegal and you will get busted if checked (in CA anyway). I want to clear out (break) the turn signal lens, but I'm not sure how to get the pieces out. . . and from the looks of it, it looks very hard.

Check this out. I am typing your info and working on a warrant in the report room. I hear this dude yelling and screaming from the cell rooms and it's driving me nuts so I finally go over there.

I ask him whats the problem, I swear I'm not making this up.

The dude goes "I want to make a ____ing phone call"
Reply "Well you made a call already whats the problem"
Dude "I forgot to tell my _____ to feed the fish and i'm worried they'll die"
Reply "You love your fish so much ha"?
Dude "Yea"
Reply "What about your _____"?
Dude "____ her, she can ____ing starve for all I care"
Reply "So what the fish do for you that your _____ hasn't"
Dude "I just love my fish"
Reply"ok, well your meal is here"
dude "What is it"
Reply"Filet-o-fish from McDonalds"
Dude "Oh ____ you mother ____er. ____ing die ----------"
Im typing this thread and I still hear him screaming LOL !!!!!

I got the best job in the world hahahaha
ScionCop 8)

HILARIOUS!

I wish I could be a cop. . . I think I have extremely good skills at diffusing situations and reading people(read:liars). But too bad I'm a lil too pudgy and I smoke too much (cigarettes). . . I would never get past the physical tests. :oops: :cry:

i don't think there's actually physical tests in pa.....they are mostly fat old guy on the streets....lol that's ____ed up man "filet-o-fish" HAHAHA

funny cop encounter...

i'm at the register at my supermarket job, ringing customers and talking to this kid about my box...he asks "that thing is soo square!!! how do u get it past 50mph???

the _______ that i am says "dude i can hit 120 in less time than it would take your festiva to go 60!!!"

just then the cuetomer saz to me..."maybe you shouldn't talk about that stuff with a retired state police offcicer" sorry i thought it was hilarious

Sorry for keeping that grief last night----was busy.

For the chirping situation. A simple chirp by itself isn't a violation. An Officer has to articulate in his report that you reved your vehicle exessively or chirped severeal times back to back, a prolonged burn out and so on to get the Unecessary noise charge.

Unsafe movement from a stopped position a Officer has to articulate that you interfeared with traffic or had no reasonable regard for saftey when you took off.


For the Tires sticking out of the vehicle, so far I have found no actual charge. The charges I posted above were for no fenders or Commercial vehicles with no wheel protectors.

ScionCop 8)

Looks like this thread is getting some good reading. I hope you guys / girls are passing this information to your friends and so on. The more you know the better off you'll be.

I think this is the #1 active thread aside from the national commercial Scion Links.


Keep the questions and extras (Funnies) comming. I want to hear from you.

ScionCop 8)

Your the coolest Eddie. If you find a box of Donuts on your Scion, they're from me.

Funny that you mention donuts David. We are playing spy games on each other with donut vendors in our area and just about everybody is in on it.

Vendors keep tab on which cops are buying Donuts in there stores (mainly Krispee Creams). Vendors / store clerks take names, pictures and video surveilance cameras are a special item.

We handle the information like if it were an Official Investigation. In roll call we crack on each other and post any "Donut Statistics" on the bulletin board. Who ever gets caught red handed is buying rounds on the weekend.

We have a good evidence guy and he's the zaniest of us all. He has crumb collections, vile samples of jelly stains, powdered donut finger print samples, crime scene pictures (messy cruisers) and so on.

It's a blast. Vendors are now trying to set us up by offering "fresh Donuts". They nabbed two guys last week with video of them eating the Donuts right in the store. We were laughing our asses off when the video was presented in Roll Call.

One day some one put a box of donuts in an interview room that had video surveilance. One cop wearing a mask went into the room and took a donut. We now have an all out investigation on who took it. The evidence guy is actually taking fingerprints and is going to compare them with our employee finger print files. This is getting crazy. Funny as hell too. No one is confessing to the latest Donut snatch and grab.

ScionCop 8)

That is funny! Sounds like a scene from SuperTroopers II. thanks for the laughs. :P

that's freakin hilarious!!!!! how many cops are cool enough to play games like that???? amazing if i ever decide to be a cop i'm gona bring that idea up

on a more serious note...as much as i may get flamed for this i don't care....i always wondered if cops ever used confiscated drugs or anything?

i know i know "they're evidence" but u can get weed anywhere....

Just a thought i'm waiting for the heat of the flames!!!

Well I dont use drugs and haven't used drugs in over ten years now, Hey, I was young too once. The truth is that most people have used drugs early in there lives or have atleast tried it.

Funny thing is that when we confiscate drugs (mainly weed) we all look at each other and say "Dam, doesn't that smell good" , "Hell yea" I remeber when..................


It would be stupid for any cop to use drugs since we get ____ tested randomly and with out notice.

ScionCop 8)

Try this little funny.

A buddy of mine stops a car and goes through the usual routine-License, Reg Insurance.
My buddy goes back to his cruiser and begins to run a check on the drivers papers. At this time a code 3 (lights n sirens) medical call is broadcasted so my buddy runs back out of his cruiser and hands the driver back his papers. My buddy says "Your all set" and takes off light s and sirens to his medical call.

After the medical call my buddy goes back on patrol and continues to work his shift. Approximately 4 hours later, dispatch radios a message to him saying that the dude is still waiting for him at the car stop. My buddy is like WTF!!!!

When my buddy goes back he asks whatare you still doing here?

The driver was hearing impaired, never heard my buddy and waited the 4 hours. The driver said that he was scared to leave and didn't want to get arrested.

My buddy felt so bad for the dude that he bought the guy Lunch.
ScionCop 8)

Oh man, that sucks.

I'll posting some info on exhaust / muffler violations pretty soon. If you have any specific questions let me know.
ScionCop 8)

thanx for all your help ! I got a citation and marked the box for a hearing . My problem is i have a cinderrella liscense, and when they gave it to me a year ago they told me dont get any tickets or well take it away . So you see my dilema. When i got the xb i got three tickets in a month ,and a half period. One year no tickets one month xb - three tickets. Well anyways , one was going thru a yellow light but the cop said it was red ,and put me down for failure to obey stop signs or failure to stop something like that. That one i just paid becuz i already had the two court dates in process for the other two tickets. So far i still have my liscense. The other one is for chirping my tires but they put me down for illegal operation 90-16 a 50.00 dollar ticket ,and the speeding wit the three boxes checked off on the ticket was a 150.00 dollar ticket marke as a 90-18 50 in a 35 mph zone

thanx for all your help i got a citation and marked the box for a hearing my problem is i have a cinderrella liscense and when they gave it to me a year ago they told me dont get any tickets or well take it away so you see my dilema when i got the xb i got three tickets in a month and a half period one year no tickets one month xb three tickets well anyways one was going thru a yellow light but the cop said it was red and put me down for failure to obey stop signs or failure to stop something that one i just paid becuz i already had the two court dates in process for the other two tickets so far i still have my liscense the other one is for chirping my tires but they put me down for illegal operation 90-16 a 50.00 dollar ticket and the speeding wit the three boxes checked off on the ticket was a 150.00 dollar ticket marke as a 90-18 50 in a 35 mph zone

Can you do another run-off sentence anymore?

thanx for all your help i got a citation and marked the box for a hearing my problem is i have a cinderrella liscense and when they gave it to me a year ago they told me dont get any tickets or well take it away so you see my dilema when i got the xb i got three tickets in a month and a half period one year no tickets one month xb three tickets well anyways one was going thru a yellow light but the cop said it was red and put me down for failure to obey stop signs or failure to stop something that one i just paid becuz i already had the two court dates in process for the other two tickets so far i still have my liscense the other one is for chirping my tires but they put me down for illegal operation 90-16 a 50.00 dollar ticket and the speeding wit the three boxes checked off on the ticket was a 150.00 dollar ticket marke as a 90-18 50 in a 35 mph zone

Can you do another run-off sentence anymore?

*gasping for air*

mad hating i feel all the love . i guess if i dont put ...... s you dont know to breath. i should try a couple of paragraphs dot.

Juicy you got problems. And to be honest it starts with "you". I can't help you. Like i have told several others. This thread is to help and assist you in staying out of violation, not to find ways to cheat the system.

True I can guide you so that you can minimize your damages but seeing that even you are telling me that your constantly getting pulled over, you keep choosing to fall into violation.

All I can say is good luck. ScionCop 8)

This is by Ct statutes, NE states follow similiar or same laws. Thanks for waiting, very busy today.

14-80(a) Unnecessary or Unusual noise Fine &78.00
Oper of MV without preventing unusual noise

14-80(b) Improper Muffler Fine $78.00
1-Oper MV lacking muffler designed to prevent unecessary / unusual exhaust noise
2-Oper MV with device to amplify noise of MV, or straight exhaust or muffler that lacks baffles, or other effective muffling device, gutted or cut out

14-80(b) Removal of Muffler Fine &78.00
Oper MV with muffler removed

14-80(c) Excessive Fumes or Exhaust smoke Fine $78.00
MV not equiped or adjusted to prevent excessive fumes or exhaust smoke

14-80(d) Failure to comply with exhaust pipe requirements Fine $78.00
(Many regs I'll type this on request)
ScionCop 8)

Hey, I know what that guy was talkin about with the reflector. . . at least if it is the same as the xA.

Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, in CA, signal and tail lights must be amber, and the law specificially stated that the the color may NOT come from the bulb. From California Vehicle Code
24600. (e) Taillamps shall be red in color

24953. (a) Any turn signal system used to give a signal of intention to turn right or left shall project a flashing white or amber light visible to the front and a flashing red or amber light visible to the rear.

This one is hard to interpret:
Color of Lamps and Reflectors
25950. This section applies to the color of lamps and to any reflector exhibiting or reflecting perceptible light of 0.05 candela or more per foot-candle of incident illumination. Unless provided otherwise, the color of lamps and reflectors upon a vehicle shall be as follows:

a) The emitted light from all lamps and the reflected light from all reflectors, visible from in front of a vehicle, shall be white or yellow, except as follows:
(1) Rear side marker lamps required by Section 25100 may show red to the front.
(2) The color of foglamps described in Section 24403 may be in the color spectrum from white to yellow.

(b) The emitted light from all lamps and the reflected light from all reflectors, visible from the rear of a vehicle, shall be red except as follows:
(1) Stoplamps on vehicles manufactured before January 1, 1979, may show yellow to the rear.
(2) Turn signal lamps may show yellow to the rear.
(3) Front side marker lamps required by Section 25100 may show yellow to the rear.
(4) Backup lamps shall show white to the rear.
(5) The rearward facing portion of any front-mounted double-faced turn signal lamp may show amber to the rear while the headlamps or parking lamps are lighted, if the intensity of the light emitted is not greater than the parking lamps and the turn signal function is not impaired.
(6) Reflectors meeting the requirements of and installed in accordance with Section 24611 shall be red or white, or both.

(c) All lamps and reflectors visible from the front, sides, or rear of a vehicle, except headlamps, may have any unlighted color, provided the emitted light from all lamps or reflected light from all reflectors complies with the required color. Except for backup lamps, the entire effective projected luminous area of lamps visible from the rear or mounted on the sides near the rear of a vehicle shall be covered by an inner lens of the required color when the unlighted color differs from the required emitted light color. Taillamps, stoplamps, and turn signal lamps that are visible to the rear may be white when unlighted on vehicles manufactured before January 1, 1974.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vc_index_l.htm#lightsandlighting

ScionCop,

I have heard that an officer needs a warrant to search the trunk of a vehicle (assuming the driver does not consent). If this is true, how does this apply to a tC, or any other scion, where the "trunk" is not separate from the interior of the car. Can an officer search the trunk saying it is inside the passenger compartment, or do they actually need a warrant even though it can be reached from within the car? Thanks for your insight.

Great question ^^^^^ I want to hear the answer 2 that one!

Thanks in advance!

Dam good question. I even had to confirm it with our top Narcotics guy.

A liftback / Hatchback rear area of the vehicle is not considered a "secured trunk".
Also a vehicle with non-locking split fold rear seats with access to the rear can be accessed so long as it's with in the scope of an Officers investigation. A reasonable expectancy or non-expectancy of privacy applies to this kind of search.

Legit searches are done with consent, probable cause, or incident to an arrest.

Consent-With permission
Probable Cause-Facts and or circumstances exist that would enable a search. This could include human senses (sight, smell, hearing ect).
Incident to Arrest- If your arrested your vehicle is open to a complete search and or inventory of the vehicle.

"Scope of a search" relates to what the Officer is looking for. Example:
If an Officer is looking for a stolen stereo then the glove compartment is off limits.
It would be considered unreasonable that a stereo would be in the glove box.

The general rule is the bigger the item were looking for the less we can do, the smaller the item the more we can do.

If you can find a way to secure (lock) your rear areas then you would be considered to have a greater expectancy of privacy. Therefore offering you more protection under the Law.
ScionCop 8)

Well, were up to no good again. A couple of days ago we Kidnapped our Sargents favorite pen. The pen was given to him by his mother when he graduated the Police Academy.

We took the pen andleft a Polaroid picture of the pen holding a sticky note (Posted) saying "Help me, I been kidnapped". A ransom note was also left. Terms '5 Coffies for the pen at Dunkin Donuts on 7-18-04"

We gave the pen to the Dunkin Donut store clerk (God bless her) and instructed her not to rat us out. The Sargent had to purchase the coffies and then she could give him back the pen.

Last night the transaction went down. The Sargent begged the clerk to tell him who took the pen but she refused to tell him. The Sargent then bought the coffies and to our surprise a Donut to go with each Coffe.

We snuck into the store when we knew the Sargent was on theother side of town to get out delicious treats.

Here's the kicker. We found out that the store clerk actually double crossed by offering the sargent Video footage of us going intot he store to collect our ransom. The Sargent now has the video and will be presenting his Donut Case in Roll Call on tuesday. Dam we got busted.
ScionCop8)

This "Super Secret, Dare, Prank Mission" has been presented but it's very "iffy" if it gets done.

The Mission is to plant a Cannabis Seed (Marijuana) in the flower pot of the Cheifs Secretary.

Who ever does this Mission will be considered the King. Problem is that it may involve criminal charges and not only Administrational discipline.

I will keep you posted on the status of this one. Its a long shot.
ScionCop 8)

Funny that you mention donuts David. We are playing spy games on each other with donut vendors in our area and just about everybody is in on it.

Vendors keep tab on which cops are buying Donuts in there stores (mainly Krispee Creams). Vendors / store clerks take names, pictures and video surveilance cameras are a special item.

We handle the information like if it were an Official Investigation. In roll call we crack on each other and post any "Donut Statistics" on the bulletin board. Who ever gets caught red handed is buying rounds on the weekend.

We have a good evidence guy and he's the zaniest of us all. He has crumb collections, vile samples of jelly stains, powdered donut finger print samples, crime scene pictures (messy cruisers) and so on.

It's a blast. Vendors are now trying to set us up by offering "fresh Donuts". They nabbed two guys last week with video of them eating the Donuts right in the store. We were laughing our asses off when the video was presented in Roll Call.

One day some one put a box of donuts in an interview room that had video surveilance. One cop wearing a mask went into the room and took a donut. We now have an all out investigation on who took it. The evidence guy is actually taking fingerprints and is going to compare them with our employee finger print files. This is getting crazy. Funny as hell too. No one is confessing to the latest Donut snatch and grab.

ScionCop 8)

You're so full of it, dude.

on a more serious note...as much as i may get flamed for this i don't care....i always wondered if cops ever used confiscated drugs or anything?

i know i know "they're evidence" but u can get weed anywhere....

Just a thought i'm waiting for the heat of the flames!!!

if i stopped someone that had a roach or two (even a whole joint) on them, it was not worth the paperwork. i would just take it and scare the hell out of the person.
later i would flush it or throw it out.
its not worth the risk to do it anymore.

ScionCop,

I have heard that an officer needs a warrant to search the trunk of a vehicle (assuming the driver does not consent). If this is true, how does this apply to a tC, or any other scion, where the "trunk" is not separate from the interior of the car. Can an officer search the trunk saying it is inside the passenger compartment, or do they actually need a warrant even though it can be reached from within the car? Thanks for your insight.

this is the ultimate catch 22.
if you don't give permission it gives suspicion that you are hiding something, and i get a warrant.
if you do give permission anything i can find is fair game.

as for searching the general interior search...
that varries county to county. some give the ok to search the front seating area.
others give the ok to search what can be reached from an open window (the catch here is you had to roll down the window to talk to the cop).
there is one town that pushes the limit and searches every car that it stops, reguardless of the infraction.

ScionCop,

I have heard that an officer needs a warrant to search the trunk of a vehicle (assuming the driver does not consent). If this is true, how does this apply to a tC, or any other scion, where the "trunk" is not separate from the interior of the car. Can an officer search the trunk saying it is inside the passenger compartment, or do they actually need a warrant even though it can be reached from within the car? Thanks for your insight.

this is the ultimate catch 22.
if you don't give permission it gives suspicion that you are hiding something, and i get a warrant.
if you do give permission anything i can find is fair game.

as for searching the general interior search...
that varries county to county. some give the ok to search the front seating area.
others give the ok to search what can be reached from an open window (the catch here is you had to roll down the window to talk to the cop).
there is one town that pushes the limit and searches every car that it stops, reguardless of the infraction.

is that not an infraction in itself? i do believe by law, u have the right to decline an officer's request to search the car....sure, if they are given permission then it's fine but every single car is superfluous it's just waaay to much!

i think it's just a waste of time to do that....free money (paid for not working hard)? or looking for something to actually give a ticket or issue an arrest?

it is actully just inside the limit of the county law.
the change was not received well when it whent into effect. the town was a reckless dragstrip stoplight to stoplight. the highways were like the autobahn but with out manners.

now, people know what will happen if you get stopped.
nobody does +5 over the limit, nobody cuts off others, nobody forgets to signal.
and this area has become the most desireable in the state and has the richest town in the state.

you will be amazed at what is an infraction of the law and what laws are in the books.

Sorry but I disagree with the catch 22 that Djhotlava mention. I also disagree that a town can issue a "Blanket Policy" that every vehicle no matter what the infraction can be searched. I am not saying that it doesn't exist.I just wouldn't want to be a part of that, especially when someone challenges the Policy in court.

When Police Officers "ask" for consent to search mainly it means that they have a suspicion that some element of a crime exists, but they have no Probable Cause to effect a search under the Law. If I see, smell, or hear something it would fall under Probable Cause. If I just suspect something then I only have "Suspicion".

"YOU CAN REFUSE" It is your right period. If an Officer askes why? "Because it's my right to refuse Officer and I wish not to speak anymore" Simple.

As far as warrants go. Don't sweat it. No Officer is going to apply for a Warrant based on his "Suspicions" and no facst to support it. If the Officer had the "facts" then he would have Probable Cause to effect the search right on the spot.
ScionCop 8)

I am not aLiberal person. Actually i am very conservative and I do my job very aggressivly. I don't mind doing some paper for a small Narcotics arrest. Yes I have squashed some things out on the road, especially if I am already swamped with paperwork and or the circumstances of the car stop.

I do beleive in the Law. That which is designed to protect us"From each other". It protects citizens from criminals, criminals from criminals, citizens from citizens and "EVERYBODY" FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND OR AGENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT". Our rights were set for a reason. (Checks and Balances)

I see no reason to reach for the pinch with so many Fish in the Sea. I see some cops push the limits of the Law and I ask myself why.
ScionCop 8)

Back to radar detectors...what about the K40 Diffuser? Your thoughts?

k40 is good if you know how it works and it limitations. it will not keep you from getting caught, but if used right it will lower your risk.

i would not buy one...
learn to read the road and the reactions of the cars in front of you, and watch the rear view mirror.
you wouyld not believe how many people get caught from the rear (using the pacing method).

the towns i was talking about are very conservitive and very rich(meaning with alot of influance). the local PD used the AG guidelines to develop this attack on the streets.
they were getting know as the trafficing route of choice(drugs).
i have been back up to many stops and i would not perform my stops in the manor they do.
the PD has been sued a few times for their MV stop protocol, never lost and nerver swayed from the current directive.

about squashing things.
the county im based in has the worst convition rating in the state. it is a waste of the systems time to push for a small amount of drugs.
as you said there are more (and bigger) fish to hook out there.

I'm no expert in the many brands of radar detectors but i'll tell you this....

I think they all suck and are a waste of money. Any radar detector older than 2 years is obsolete.

Probably the only thing those things are good for is picking up wide band radar that is constantly left on. if it's lidar your toast, if you use a jammer your toast, if you fry my equipment your going in a cell and then your going to be toasted.

If your speeding and I want you I'll get you period. I stop so many people with radar detectors and I'll ask the same thing Did it work? Hell No they say this ____ sucks.

ScionCop

how many cops do u know that actually abuse their power....i mean like as far as tickets and stuff go i'm curios b/c my one friend Mandee, super hot girl might i add, she models for some girl store, got pulled over for doing 93 in a 55 and claims to have drove off with a warning b/c she showed the cop her boobs....now i think this is unfair....if i showed a girl cop my penis, she'd slap me with indecent exposure on top of the huge ticket and license-suspending amount of points that i would receive....


idk just ____es me off to no end....

Jeff

Dude don't be a hater. If she decided to show some boobies, I just wish it were me she was showing it too.

It would be an abuse of power if the Cop even hinted towards a citizen to do something like that. I would have no respect for that Officer.

Good idea to keep your penis in your pants (I laughed when I read that). Hey, I give it to you straight. This is real world stuff.

I have gotten 3 beaver shots, but I never asked for it. 2 were let go but one was arrested. The arrest was on a sever DUI.

ScionCop 8)

i wanna be a cop now for beaver shots and boobies!!!! hey aren't u married? and it really does work when girls show cops their ____?

i hate girls!!!

Busted ! Well yes Im married and I just found out that she's been keeping track of the thread. So what is this ____ about boobies and beaver shots? She asks.

My Reply "Well Hun it's technical Police stuff". *Smack*!!! I guess she can assault a Police Officer and get away with it LOL !!!!

What can I say Xbox2, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't like anything else in life. Don't think this happens all the time. I been on the force for about 7 years and I can count maybe 3-5 times this has happened.
ScionCop 8)

be glad you don't work in my area, i get that 3-5 times a month...
its funny and sad to see the lenghts girls will go to just to get out of a summons. (including turning on the water works, god i hate that one)

Is it legal to drive around without side mirrors on my car? I have a Broadway Convex rearview mirror, that lets me all around the car. My side mirrors are useless.

14-99 Failure to have a Mirror C.G.S.

A MV is not epuipped with an attached mirror that allows the operator a clear reflected view of the highway to the rear of the MV, or of the highway parallel to the left side of the MV.

I am not sure if your Broad-Mirror qualifies foir this.
ScionCop 8)

I get that a lot too. That ____ boils me up. I never let that bull____ tactic work. Funny how once they see that your issuing a ticket anyways, they totaly turn and off the sob story and morph into a raging beast. Plan-A to Plan-B--LOL!!!!

Also a lot of girls "Claim" to be strippers and think they got some kind of juice card. I could care less who or what they are.

I always say this......
Just be cool and be yourself. Cops are people too. We speed, and have done MV violations just like anybody else.

If you follow what I posted earlier in the thread (page1 or2) chances are better you'll be cut lose---and no it's not kissing an Officers ___ like some idiot posted a while back and by the way I haven't heard any reply from his dumb ___ remark.
ScionCop 8)

is it legal for a cop to use a residence driveway to pull people over for speeding and such. here is the story there was a house that was built and finished a month ago and the oweners wont move in untill late august. there drive way has tall bushes around it so u really cant spot the driveway. a cop took it upon himself to set up a little speed trap and catch people. i think that you have to have the owners permission to do something like that and if he didnt have that permission then the ticket would be void.

also another question can a officer hand out tickets in a mall parking lot? my friend rolled past a stop and the cop issued him a ticket and i think the mall lot is private property so isnt it the malls job to handle that..

sorry one last question do cop have to have parking lights on or some sort of light on when they are sitting on the side of the road etc.

A cop getting permission to use the driveway is only a courtesy between the Officer and Home owner. The fact that it is a private driveway has no relevance to the speeding ticket.

A parking area of 10 or more spaces is considered a roadway under Ct Law. If anything, your friend can check to see if the stop sign was STC approved (State traffic Commissioner). If it is not an approved sign from the STC and it is only a sign that the Mall bought and posted then your friend can fight the ticket.

Many people ask me the "light's on" regulation. I have never seen anything that says that a Cruiser "must" display some sort of lighting when parked on the roadway.
ScionCop

well i thank you for ur help iam sure i will be asking some more questions

Sorry, I read all the pages and found the info I needed.

no lights on requirement in NJ.

yes, you need at least the drivers outside door mirror. (remember when the pass. door mirror was an option on cars?) panaramic rear view mirrors are not an exception to the ruling.

we don't use private driveways for traps, but we could...

Busted ! Well yes Im married and I just found out that she's been keeping track of the thread. So what is this ____ about boobies and beaver shots? She asks.

My Reply "Well Hun it's technical Police stuff". *Smack*!!! I guess she can assault a Police Officer and get away with it LOL !!!!

What can I say Xbox2, sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't like anything else in life. Don't think this happens all the time. I been on the force for about 7 years and I can count maybe 3-5 times this has happened.
ScionCop 8)

Sorry i had to ask tell your wife i said hello and i'll bake HER some cookies to make ammends for any damage i may have caused.... damn women's always be checkin up on u

Honestly i think that hiding in a driveway isn't very nice!!! but a cop must do what a cop must do....and a violation is indeed a violation....i'm glad to see that this thread got bumped again i was starting to worry about it's fate...

Jeff

I will be posting information on Reckless Driving soon.
ScionCop 8)

14-222 Reckless Driving (Misdemeanor MV Summons) CT Law

A person operates a MV recklessly with regard to width of traffic, traffic on, weather, inertesctions,or streets

or------- At a speed that endangers the life of someone other than himself or herself.

or--------At a speed greater then 85 mph

or--------That he / she knows MV has defective mechanism.

ScionCop 8)

(This applies to a question TcChamp had about Miranda Warnings in separate thread)


Notice of Rights (aka-Miranda Warnings) are given when two elements exists. Custody and Interrogation. If your friend was "taken into custody" he must be informed of his rights if an Officer is going to ask any questions (This doesn't include normal booking procedures since it consists only your personal Bio-information)

It doesn't matter if it is oral or written. If your in "custody" and I have "investigative" questions then I "must" Read you your Notice of Rights. By the way we don't call them Miranda Warnings no more.

On a simple car stop with only a Summons or Infraction issued no Notice of Rights are neccassary since you were not taken into custody. So the answer to your question is "No". It is however still considered an "Arrest"
ScionCop 8)

Well I guess no one has any further questions. I'll check back in a day or so just in case someone has something for me. If not, Well then I'll say it's been a pleasure assisting you all and have fun with your Scions.

ScionCop 8)

i actually do have a question for you but everytime i come to ask i always forget!!

i'm a moron if u haven't figured this out yet...lol

Jeff

05TcCt wrote.....

eddie, me and a friend both got tickets for "simple trespassing". We were both in our trucks out in the woods, some lady called and complained and the police came and were waiting for us at the entrance of the trail. If i pay this 92 dollar ticket, will i get something back in the mail about it in the future at all?

Infraction Ticket (Simple Tresspass) Fine $92.00

No, you wont get anything back in the mail other than probably a receipt. This is a simple fine and wont go on your record.

Curios though.....
Was it private property? Was the area posted "No tresspassing or Private Property"?
Check into that and if it's worth your time you may want to contest it in Court. I would just pay the fine instead of taking a day off from work and going to court and waste my time.

ScionCop 8)

It was someone's farm. So i guess it was private property. Would I be able to put a return adress on the envelope other than my own? I'm still living at home and i really don't want my parents to give me hell about it.

No harm in using a different reuturn address but most likely they will use the address wrtitten on the ticket by the cop. The envelope with your new return address most likely will get chucked when it arrives at the Court Office Clerk.

ScionCop 8)

will the ticket reflect on my insurance b/c i was driving a car?

I live in PA and I was looking at getting a License Plate Frame with scrolling LED Text do you know if that is legal to have operating while your driving on the roads or anywhere for that matter?

"No" the charge wont affect your insurance. The charge isn't even considered a M.V. charge even though you were in your vehicle.

It would fall under a Municipal / City Ordinance. I read that you said that it was on Farm property.

Yea Just pay the Ticket unless of course you had permission to be there.
No Record, Point against license, or Insurance hike because of the charge.
ScionCop 8)

This is Ct Law. You need to look up if it's different in PA.

14-18(c) Improper attachment to plate C.G.S. (Infraction / Fine $78.00)

Attachments not authorized by the MV Commissioner, or the plates holder has attachments that cover part of the plate.

ScionCop 8)

Alright, thanks for the help/clearing up the details for me :D

hey i have some questions, by the way thanks for directing me in my other thread about financing, anyway here they are

1) how many fellow officers in your expierience have you seen to be pretty cool decent people like your self, is it the majority or just a handful?

2) does ct have a law on mininum hieght your headlights have to be off the ground?

3) if you get stopped for speeding, and you ask them for the "reciept" from the gun and the officer doesnt have it, is it true that they cant give you the ticket as there is no proof of you exeeding the limit?

and finnaly

4) is tinting your headlights/taillights illegal in CT, im not talking about black tints, but i mean how some cars will have there headlights tinted a shade of a color to match thier car usually blue or yellow?


thank you

1- Yes, most cops are real cool people. I am not saying that just blow smoke up your rear. We are people just like you who are performing a "Civil Service". There are a few who make us shake our heads because of what they do on the job. It's unfortunate but thats a part of life.

2-Head Lamps 22 inch minimum to a maximum of 54 inches off the ground.

3- Not true. We are not obligated to show you anything at the scene of a car stop. We do however supply the information on a police report to back up our actions. You can request a copy of that Police report at a later time.

4-I didn't look it up but I would say yes it is illegal to have tints on your h-lamps and Tail lamps. Covers are illegal on tail lamps. H-lamps cover must come off when it's dark enough that H-lamps are required for normal driving.

ScionCop 8)

Hey scion cop, newbie here and awaiting my own tC, like yourself....

One question. It really irks me when I see ploice vehicles speeding without lights on. Yes, I know that they have the option to go to a scene without lights/sirens if the situation isn't severe enough. They are allowed to go over the speed limit by a certian amount for this. But, cops have jurisdiction, right? If a cop that was many towns over from his/her normal town's jurisdiction, are they allowed to speed? They can't possibly be going to a call, especially if they are headed away from their own town. This bothers me and I wonder if you could tell me the laws, at least your state's, regarding when a ploice officer is allowed to speed and not allowed to speed.

By the way, I live in RI, so if you know that state's laws too, cool.

Hey scion cop, newbie here and awaiting my own tC, like yourself....

One question. It really irks me when I see ploice vehicles speeding without lights on. Yes, I know that they have the option to go to a scene without lights/sirens if the situation isn't severe enough. They are allowed to go over the speed limit by a certian amount for this. But, cops have jurisdiction, right? If a cop that was many towns over from his/her normal town's jurisdiction, are they allowed to speed? They can't possibly be going to a call, especially if they are headed away from their own town. This bothers me and I wonder if you could tell me the laws, at least your state's, regarding when a ploice officer is allowed to speed and not allowed to speed.

By the way, I live in RI, so if you know that state's laws too, cool.

In New York State, police find exemptions from most vehicle and traffic law as long as it's in the performance of their duty.

S 1104. Authorized emergency vehicles. (a) The driver of an authorized
emergency vehicle, when involved in an emergency operation, may exercise
the privileges set forth in this section, but subject to the conditions
herein stated.
(b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:
1. Stop, stand or park irrespective of the provisions of this title;
2. Proceed past a steady red signal, a flashing red signal or a stop
sign, but only after slowing down as may be necessary for safe
operation;
3. Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he does not endanger
life or property;
4. Disregard regulations governing directions of movement or turning
in specified directions.
(c) Except for an authorized emergency vehicle operated as a police
vehicle or bicycle, the exemptions herein granted to an authorized
emergency vehicle shall apply only when audible signals are sounded from
any said vehicle while in motion by bell, horn, siren, electronic device
or exhaust whistle as may be reasonably necessary, and when the vehicle
is equipped with at least one lighted lamp so that from any direction,
under normal atmospheric conditions from a distance of five hundred feet
from such vehicle, at least one red light will be displayed and visible.
(d) An authorized emergency vehicle operated as a police, sheriff or
deputy sheriff vehicle may exceed the maximum speed limits for the
purpose of calibrating such vehicles` speedometer. Notwithstanding any
other law, rule or regulation to the contrary, a police, sheriff or
deputy sheriff bicycle operated as an authorized emergency vehicle shall
not be prohibited from using any sidewalk, highway, street or roadway
during an emergency operation.
(e) The foregoing provisions shall not relieve the driver of an
authorized emergency vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for
the safety of all persons, nor shall such provisions protect the driver
from the consequences of his reckless disregard for the safety of
others.
(f) Notwithstanding any other law, rule or regulation to the contrary,
an ambulance operated in the course of an emergency shall not be
prohibited from using any highway, street or roadway; provided, however,
that an authority having jurisdiction over any such highway, street or
roadway may specifically prohibit travel thereon by ambulances if such
authority shall deem such travel to be extremely hazardous and would
endanger patients being transported thereby.

http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?cl=128&a=47

This is not to say that they are not bound to exercise due care. You can't just barrel through stop signs etc. But you can't even do that with you emergency lights activated. You need to proceed in a safe manner, regardless.

I have heard that if you get a speeding ticket and you overpay it (say by $1), then you will receive a refund check from the issuing party. then if you don't cash the refund check that the ticket will never clear the system and never get posted onto your MVR. Is this true or an urban myth?

Bota I believe Mattman was refering to "non police related" speeding out of jursidiction.

Mattman, a police emergency vehicle out of jurisdiction that is not under any kind of detail requiring him / her to perform a Police duty falls under all Laws applicable to Civilian vehicles. That means that technicaly that Cruiser can be stopped and the driver can be issued Enforcement Action.

Real World.... The chances are extremely unlikely that a police cruiser will get stopped by another Police Officer. Simple truth.

ScionCop 8)

LOL Sounds like a myth all the way.
ScionCop 8)

well, gotta get to the bank and cash $50 in $1 checks. :shock:

oh you should just do what I do.

I flag down cops all of the time and get them to pull over. Then I, very politely, inform them that their turn signals do not appear to be functioning properly. "I was riding behind you and you changed lanes 3 times, but niether your left nor your right signal appears to be working properly."

Then usually they get this weird look on their face like, "is this guy f*cking with me?" and when I stay there with a concerned look on my face they say, "umm, thanks." and they go on their way. :D

Ha Ha Ha Stop Lying!! You know you don't do that. Funny though!!!!

Try that with me and I'll have you sent to the hospital under an Emergency Committal. They'll keep you for 72 hours while they probe every cavity in your body. Now that would be funny.
ScionCop 8)

no for real, I've actually done it a few times. I follow traffic laws, and I think it is only acceptable that law enforcement do as well.

I only have 1 non-parking ticket in my 7 years of driving. It was a speeding ticket on an open highway at 1:30 am. I was tired, on my way home from work, and didn't notice my speed until I saw the spotlight in my mirror. :D

But I am always completely nice and, seemingly, honest and meaningful in what I am telling them. I am not interested in a battle of egos, "hey f*cker use your turn signal" "I don't have to I'm a f*cking cop" . I'm not interested in upsetting a person who I know has a gun and a stick. :)

Truth is that I am the worst driver there is out there. Before I became a Cop I drove like any other normal person with road etiquette.
Once I became a Cop and had to go from code 1 to code 3 responses there was no going back. My wife is always smacking me upside my head (Because she can) telling me to slow down and to take it easy. "Your off duty slow the F-ck down" She tells me all the time.

It's just something that the job does to you. It's not an abuse of authority but a graduall transformation developed by day after day of high speed pursuits, emergency assists, working midnights when no one else is awake ect.

Do you really think I'm waiting at all those red lights when no one else is on the road and my buddy is on a car stop somewhere on the other side of town and I have to back him up. Cruisers are totally beat down because of us.

If you want to play games go right ahead. You just may do it to the wrong cop and end up playing your self out.
ScionCop 8)

Hey Eddie, do you have to pay to drive your cruiser? One of my tenants is training to be on the force and I asked him if he was getting a car. He said "Hell no, they make you pay for it!" He told me the department takes some amount of money out of your checks. Just curious if it's the same up there.

this is probably just an urban legend, but I want to know for sure before I get my ___ kicked for it.

In Pennsylvania, state troopers wear those "mountie" hats. I have been told that if a state trooper stops you and approaches your car without their hat, they are "out of uniform"; akin to not displaying a badge. As the story goes, if this happens, you can simply remind the officer that they are out of uniform and they can't give you a ticket.

I'm guessing this is bull____, but I would love to try to get out of a ticket because of it, even though it would probably get me arrested.

im just full of questions as of late, but say someone was to install a loud speaker into there car similiar to those on patrol cars, is that illegal as in impersonating a police officer, or is it cool to have an use on the street,? or is it like neons where you can have it just dont use it while the car is in motion, or is it just a big no-no

^run on sentence i know :oops:


thanks

im just full of questions as of late, but say someone was to install a loud speaker into there car similiar to those on patrol cars, is that illegal as in impersonating a police officer, or is it cool to have an use on the street,? or is it like neons where you can have it just dont use it while the car is in motion, or is it just a big no-no

^run on sentence i know :oops:


thanks

in pa u can be arested for this...:-D

impersonating an emergency vehicle

Jeff

this is probably just an urban legend, but I want to know for sure before I get my ___ kicked for it.

In Pennsylvania, state troopers wear those "mountie" hats. I have been told that if a state trooper stops you and approaches your car without their hat, they are "out of uniform"; akin to not displaying a badge. As the story goes, if this happens, you can simply remind the officer that they are out of uniform and they can't give you a ticket.

I'm guessing this is bull____, but I would love to try to get out of a ticket because of it, even though it would probably get me arrested.

Bull____.

Hey Eddie, do you have to pay to drive your cruiser? One of my tenants is training to be on the force and I asked him if he was getting a car. He said "Hell no, they make you pay for it!" He told me the department takes some amount of money out of your checks. Just curious if it's the same up there.

Of course not.

ok this is a real serious question, and would like your help if you can, ok here i go
my cousin was driving her boyfriends car and she hit another lady at about 5mph from the back, her boyfriend did not currently have insurrance on the car and she did not have insurrance of her own, my cousin got a ticket for no insurrance and driving to close, she paid the ticket, now this happened in june, today her boyfriend got a letter in the mail from the lady my cousin hits insurrance company saying that he is responsible for the damages to the car his girlfriend hit, now my question is can that be done? isnt that what insurrance is for so if you get hit by an uninsurred driver they will cover it? thats why people pay so much a month for it, incase something like that happens, correct?

i figured out my question scioncop!!!!

can a cop pull someone over out of their jurisdiction and if so, what are the restrictions on this?

i'm going to venture to say that most states share this law

Jeff

ok this is a real serious question, and would like your help if you can, ok here i go
my cousin was driving her boyfriends car and she hit another lady at about 5mph from the back, her boyfriend did not currently have insurrance on the car and she did not have insurrance of her own, my cousin got a ticket for no insurrance and driving to close, she paid the ticket, now this happened in june, today her boyfriend got a letter in the mail from the lady my cousin hits insurrance company saying that he is responsible for the damages to the car his girlfriend hit, now my question is can that be done? isnt that what insurrance is for so if you get hit by an uninsurred driver they will cover it? thats why people pay so much a month for it, incase something like that happens, correct?

He's responsible for the damage. Her insurance company pays to have her car fixed, then goes after the owner of the vehicle that was at fault if there is no insurance.

i figured out my question scioncop!!!!

can a cop pull someone over out of their jurisdiction and if so, what are the restrictions on this?

i'm going to venture to say that most states share this law

Jeff

In New York State, the answer is yes... And no.

There must be a crime (Not a traffic infraction of simple violation of law) committed in your presence to make an arrest without a warrant outside of your geographical area of jurisdiction.

thats what i dont understand though, whats the point then to pay extra in insurrance for if someone hits you and they are not covered if that extra money you are paying is just going to come from the driver that hit you anyway, you might as well not have insurrance and just sue the person who hit you, because basically then what your saying is joe blow pays an extra 200 a month incase an uninsurred motorist hits him he wont have to pay for damages, his insurrance company pays for the damage( thats why he pays the extra 200 EVERY month) now the insurrance company will remain getting that extra 200 a month PLUS the money they just gave to joe blow to repair his car from the driver, the insurrance company is not loosing any money they are gaining it, and to me that doesnt sound fair and/or legal, the reason someone pays insurrance is so there is money to pay for damages caused JUST INCASE something happens, theres people who pay insurrance there whole life and never need it, thus wasting money, especially wasting money if the insurrance company they are paying is just pocketing that money and not spending it on helping another motorist who needs it, and besides all that if someone was to use my gun to kill someone would i go to jail for murder because its my gun

thats what i dont understand though, whats the point then to pay extra in insurrance for if someone hits you and they are not covered if that extra money you are paying is just going to come from the driver that hit you anyway, you might as well not have insurrance and just sue the person who hit you, because basically then what your saying is joe blow pays an extra 200 a month incase an uninsurred motorist hits him he wont have to pay for damages, his insurrance company pays for the damage( thats why he pays the extra 200 EVERY month) now the insurrance company will remain getting that extra 200 a month PLUS the money they just gave to joe blow to repair his car from the driver, the insurrance company is not loosing any money they are gaining it, and to me that doesnt sound fair and/or legal, the reason someone pays insurrance is so there is money to pay for damages caused JUST INCASE something happens, theres people who pay insurrance there whole life and never need it, thus wasting money, especially wasting money if the insurrance company they are paying is just pocketing that money and not spending it on helping another motorist who needs it, and besides all that if someone was to use my gun to kill someone would i go to jail for murder because its my gun

The fact is, that if your insurance company is going to pay for damage to your vehicle cause by another, uninsured driver, of course they're going to try to recoup the cost.

The chances are that they will recoup little, if any, of their loss since most uninsured motorists don't have the proverbial pot to ____ in nor the window to throw it out of. The best they can hope for is a judgement against the guy. That's if (and a big if) they even decide to pursue the matter in court.

This is ScionCop and I have a question?




Why is Bota answering the questions that people are asking me?

No offense Bota but your answers have been confusing and partially true. Please start your own thread. Are you a cop? I ask because from what i read of your posts on other threads really make me question that.

Now I will go back and review the previous 10 posts and correct, add or simplify the answers given by Bota if needed.

ScionCop 8)

This is ScionCop and I have a question?




Why is Bota answering the questions that people are asking me?

No offense Bota but your answers have been confusing and partially true. Please start your own thread. Are you a cop? I ask because from what i read of your posts on other threads really make me question that.

Now I will go back and review the previous 10 posts and correct, add or simplify the answers given by Bota if needed.

ScionCop 8)

Thanks!

Oh, and what part has you confused, Eddie? Perhaps I can break it down for you?

Didn't confuse me at all. Like I mentioned "I will be reviewing the previous posts for clarification"

KomikTC, Beioski, Zoomby(x2), and Xbox2 I will be posting your answers tomorrow from my work PC. My home PC is crappy and shuts down sometimes as I'm typing.

ScionCop

I've been wondering this for a while. Is it illegal to have a scanner in your car. Like the ones used to listen to police channels and what not?

I've been wondering this for a while. Is it illegal to have a scanner in your car. Like the ones used to listen to police channels and what not?

What is yes in New York? (My answer is in the form of a question as to not upset Eddie.) :lol:

Unless you're a Police or Peace officer acting pursuant to your special duties, or have a permit to possess one. If you're curious about who is considered a peace officer, click here (http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?cl=25&a=4) for the defining section of the New York State Criminal Procedure Law.


S 397. Equipping motor vehicles with radio receiving sets capable of
receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use. A
person, not a police officer or peace officer, acting pursuant to his
special duties, who equips a motor vehicle with a radio receiving set
capable of receiving signals on the frequencies allocated for police use
or knowingly uses a motor vehicle so equipped or who in any way
knowingly interferes with the transmission of radio messages by the
police without having first secured a permit so to do from the person
authorized to issue such a permit by the local governing body or board
of the city, town or village in which such person resides, or where such
person resides outside of a city or village in a county having a county
police department by the board of supervisors of such county, is guilty
of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand
dollars, or imprisonment not exceeding six months, or both. Nothing in
this section contained shall be construed to apply to any person who
holds a valid amateur radio operator`s license issued by the federal
communications commission and who operates a duly licensed portable
mobile transmitter and in connection therewith a receiver or receiving
set on frequencies exclusively allocated by the federal communications
commission to duly licensed radio amateurs.

Above is the section of the Vehicle and Traffice Law that covers this subject.

Are you a cop?

No, I'm a crack dealer. But I know how to use google. :D

Take home cruisers are built into a contract set by the Union and it's employer (Town, City, State).
Contracts differ greatly from one another. Some Contracts make you pay some sort of contributuon for your "Take Home Cruiser" some don't. Many contracts specify no "Persnal Usage" some do. See what I mean.

You would have to review the specific contact and see if it is worth it for you.

Me Personaly, If I had to pay and I can't have personal use I wouldn't want it.

ScionCop 8)

Urban Legend all the way. I would avoid even trying to pull that one off.

There are some other Urban Legends in previous posts on this thread, feel free to check them out.

ScionCop 8)

You need a permit to have a loud speaker on your vehicle. This mostly applies to people announcing an event or advertisement of some sort.


In Ct you'll be issued a ticket for most likely Noise Pollution, I beleive there is an actuall Law for Illegal use of voice amplifying device in a rural area.

I don't see anything in Ct that refers to Impersonating an Emergency Vehicle. Xbox2 mentioned that PA has such a Law but your from Hard Hittin so you'll be ok.

ScionCop 8)

You pretty much answered your own question. The reason you pay the premium is so that the Insurance Comp. has the "Burden" of getting the money from the Uninsured motorist. You pay the premium for protecting yourself from an accident from an un-insured motorist so that you wont be left in the dust with a banged up car and hospital expenses.

The insurance Company goes after the Un-Insured driver to re-coop the money they payed you.

Hell yea they making money buddy. Insurance Companies are making Billions of the backs of our labor. It sucks but thats the way of the world.

The reason that the owner of the vehicle is resposible is because he authorized the second party to drive the car. the driver walks away unless the Owner of the vehilce sues the driver.
ScionCop 8)

The only time in Ct that a Cop can initiate some Law Enforcement action out of jurisdiction is in the case of a "Felony". A simple car stop is not a Felony.

A Cop can however give mutual Aid out of Jurisdiction. That is if the Cop sees you commit a MV violation he can call the local Police and have them stop you and have them issue you a ticket. The Cop then has to supply the outside agency a sworn written statement of his observations.

Real World.....We hate this. We don''t like it when other Cops are calling shots in our Jurisdiction and making us do there work unless of course it's a DUI. We don't frown upon that.

ScionCop 8)

In Ct scanners are completly legal. No problem listening to whatever you want. If you transmitt thats a different story. You can't transmitt unless it's for an actuall call for help or something like that.

ScionCop 8)

I hope I cleared up this mess. Pleases keep them comming.

ScionCop 8)

so in theory, having no possible way of knowing how fast i am going, a cop from out of my area couldnt really tell the locals that i was speeding...only perhaps saying to hit me for careless driving, correct?

so stuff like super troopers really does kinda happen then, with locals hitting the statey's spots and vice versa....

Jeff

Yes and Yes

We really don't like that unles of course it's a major necessity.

Don't call me because you saw someone go through a stop sign, I see enough of that all day on my own.

DUI, Reckless Driving, MV Accidents, Evading Responsibilty---No problem with those and some others.

ScionCop 8)

To the dude I stopped on Wed with the speeding Box.......

Keep my info on the low please. I really try to keep my BIO info personal. People here don't know where I work or who I am.

I keep it like that to avoid conflicts with my personal life and carrer. Thanks.

Maybe I'll see you guys at the MiddleTown Car Show Later

ScionCop 8)

PS Xbox2 Welcome back, I'm glad you found your brain LOL !!!

my brain and my internet connection!!!! is the middletown show the one on the 22nd? this coming sunday i believe it is?

Jeff

Take home cruisers are built into a contract set by the Union and it's employer (Town, City, State).
Contracts differ greatly from one another. Some Contracts make you pay some sort of contributuon for your "Take Home Cruiser" some don't. Many contracts specify no "Persnal Usage" some do. See what I mean.

You would have to review the specific contact and see if it is worth it for you.

Me Personaly, If I had to pay and I can't have personal use I wouldn't want it.

ScionCop 8)

Are you kidding me? Do you have one example of a police union that is stupid enough to put take home cruisers in it's contract, and then actually PAY for them? I doubt it.

Bargaining units don't bargain about cars. And if you know of one that does, their negotiation team should be hung as soon as possible.

I'd love to see an example, though.

Don't worry about it, your secrets are safe with me.......i'll race you when you get your TC....haha.......j/k.........Peace

Dub C,

You da dude wit tha box?

who got busted?

no doubt....wouldnt call it busted though......juni

Well Bota if you know anything about contracts you should know that everything and anything issued to a Police a Officer is specified in the contract. From cell phones, beepers, uniforms, weapons ect.. and yes even a cruiser if it is a Take home Cruiser.

Some Towns have a contribution system set up or actuall "less pay" for getting the Cruiser.

Some are worth it some are not.

I can see your attempting to make this thread into a back and forth _____ chat but I don't plan on engaging into that nonesense.

I never had a problem with people having input in this thread especially from people who actually know what there talking about like for example Djhotlava. Djhotlava and I have disagreed with each other in previous threads but we always maintained a sense of professionalism.

You on the other hand took it upon yourself to basically crash the thread and give out partially true info.

Well you already said that your not a cop so my only guess is that your taking some criminal justice classes or something to the effect. Your answers are text book answers that really make no sense outside of the classroom. Leave this thread to the real street pros like DjHotlava and myself to take care of.

Your Search answer was stupid. Especially the comment about a Warrant. While your answer may be right in a classroom it doesn't apply in real world street Law Enforcement.

Other questions about, Off duty speeding, Insurance, and even the coment about the dealership contract on the other thread was dumb.

Sorry Bota but you brought this on yourself and I actually feel bad that I'm wasting my time typing this. This is the last I actually type about this. I know your going to keep typing a lot of bull____ but thats Ok. I deal with Bull____ on a daily basis like a true Pro.

ScionCop 8)

Well Bota if you know anything about contracts you should know that everything and anything issued to a Police a Officer is specified in the contract. From cell phones, beepers, uniforms, weapons ect.. and yes even a cruiser if it is a Take home Cruiser.

Some Towns have a contribution system set up or actuall "less pay" for getting the Cruiser.

Some are worth it some are not.

Can you provide an example? I've never heard of negotiating for equipment that's needed to do you job. You negotiate for compensation. A take home car is compensation? I guess if your pay is so low that you can't afford gas.

All I asked for was an example, can you provide one or not?

I can see your attempting to make this thread into a back and forth _____ chat but I don't plan on engaging into that nonesense.

I never had a problem with people having input in this thread especially from people who actually know what there talking about like for example Djhotlava. Djhotlava and I have disagreed with each other in previous threads but we always maintained a sense of professionalism.

You on the other hand took it upon yourself to basically crash the thread and give out partially true info.

Well you already said that your not a cop so my only guess is that your taking some criminal justice classes or something to the effect. Your answers are text book answers that really make no sense outside of the classroom. Leave this thread to the real street pros like DjHotlava and myself to take care of.

Just trying to engage in a little conversation on topics that interest me. I didn't know this was a private conversation. If you'd like to keep it private, then why don't you post your e-mail address and solicit questions that way and answer them in kind? Or even use the private messageing system?

I'll forget your attempt to insult me, I'm above that. :)

I guess you just don't like my personality, but exactly how have I been trolling this thred? I've come up with some answers as they pertain to New York State. You may not happen to agree, or I could be wrong in some cases, but I'm just trying to engage in a little conversation. You may want to lighten up a little, Eds.

Your Search answer was stupid. Especially the comment about a Warrant. While your answer may be right in a classroom it doesn't apply in real world street Law Enforcement.

Other questions about, Off duty speeding, Insurance, and even the coment about the dealership contract on the other thread was dumb.

I posted a stupid answer about searching?

I don't recall making a comment on off duty speeding.

What was wrong with what I said about insurance? It was almost exactly what you said.

The dealership contract answer may have been wrong, but that would be for a judge to decide. Sounds like someone has a great case in court if they signed a contract and one party decided to reneg on the deal.

Maybe there are better examples of how I've been partially right or misleading?

Sorry Bota but you brought this on yourself and I actually feel bad that I'm wasting my time typing this. This is the last I actually type about this. I know your going to keep typing a lot of bull____ but thats Ok. I deal with Bull____ on a daily basis like a true Pro.

ScionCop 8)

I don't know what your problem is with me, but it seems that you feel threatened. Why? I don't know. I don't think I've attacked you in any way, other than to try to offer some insight into how things can be done differently in different states. I've even cited the law when applicable.

http://www.teambota.com/vbb/images/smilies/shrug.gif

One thing that you need to remember, my friend, is that this is a public message board on which I have not violated any of the rules of conduct. My posts are on topic, and regardless of whether you find them interesting or informative I will continue to engage in conversation.

If you have difficulty debating issues, or offering opposing points without being insulted then perhaps it's you that should stop posting here? As a long time internet user I can offer you this advice:

Don't be so sensitive and try to have a little fun. :)

If in answering I've upset you, I appologize. That was never my aim.

....The End.


Ok. Back to buisness.

Hey Xbox2 I think it's Sunday the 22nd. See you and the crew there. I'll be there for a quick hit because I'm working at 4pm.

ScionCop 8)

Lil Dub C......

Thanks man, I appreciate you keeping that tight.
that's a nice Box you have there. Be sad if you messed it up. Be safe out there.

ScionCop 8)

make yourself known to me, oh "pro of the streets" lol i'll be looking forward to meeting you up there is u decide to be conspicuous....just don't don't knab us all for speeding...we'll have quite a number of boxes from NY, NJ and PA and it's be a shame to stop a train for one car....we've done it b4 though...:-/

where are u getting ur tC from?

Jeff

Ha HA !!! Like that!

Hey, When I'm off duty Im "OFF DUTY". I'll stop by for a bit. Hopefully ScionKym will have a grill going with some grub "Cuz I Sho iz gonna be Hungry".

I bet that would look like a train when all your boxes are comming back to back on the highway. HMMM Have to look that up----J/k I guess that means that the last vehicle has the coolers. Ha Ha I'm allover your sh-t already and you haven't even entered the state yet.

Tip... Ct state police are like hawks on Rt 95 and Rt 9 so stay under the limit and get there safely.
When you come up Rt 3 be carefull entering MiddleTown Toyota, to many morons speeding both ways. Be sure to have a good view before taking your turn. I almost got into an accident there myself. People are flying there.

Don't mess witht he street pros.

ScionCop 8)

I got pulled over by a cop...he first said the conversation is being recorded and then asked me the questions...do you know how fast you were going? Are you in a rush? I told him I was going 80mph. He doesn't agree and told me I was going 100mph. The thing is I wasn't...it was night and I have a hard time driving at night, so I don't speed and I was in a conversation with my sister when he pulled me over. No where in the conversation did he say, "Radar, laser, clock,gunned" or write it on the ticket. What do you think I should do in court? How should I plead? He has no proof of me going 100mph, only his words...so its basically his word against mine. What do you think ScionCop?

Im not sure if you went over this but why do places sell blue or red neon lights if they are illegal

I got pulled over by a cop...he first said the conversation is being recorded and then asked me the questions...do you know how fast you were going? Are you in a rush? I told him I was going 80mph. He doesn't agree and told me I was going 100mph. The thing is I wasn't...it was night and I have a hard time driving at night, so I don't speed and I was in a conversation with my sister when he pulled me over. No where in the conversation did he say, "Radar, laser, clock,gunned" or write it on the ticket. What do you think I should do in court? How should I plead? He has no proof of me going 100mph, only his words...so its basically his word against mine. What do you think ScionCop?

How do you know he wasn't using radar?

You already admitted to speeding (So it's just the overage that's in question) unless the speed limit is 80MPH, which I doubt.

If you have a basically clean license, write a letter to the District Attorney's Office and see what kind of reduction they'll offer you.

Im not sure if you went over this but why do places sell blue or red neon lights if they are illegal

They may, depending on local laws, be illegal for street use. They most likely say on the package that they are for "show use" or something similar.

DizzyTc....

Was it a Infraction Ticket or a Summons ?

If it is a Summons your going to court mandatory. I don't think calling the DA's Office is not the way to go here. I don't know about your state but in Ct the DA doesn't handle Traffic Offenses.

Please get back to me and specify Infraction or Summons and I'll hook you up.

In CT anything over 86mph requires a Summons on a charge of Reckless driving.

ScionCop 8)

Houston....

Basically it's a matter of "improper usage". A vendor can't be stopped from selling these devices because the device itself is not illegal. So in other words you can buy all the lights you want and do many things with them like decorate your apartment ect

The violation is "Improper Usage" when you equip a Mv with the lights.

It is a violation if "Operation of MV with Improper lights / colored / emergency designated colors ect."

Hope that clarifies things

ScionCop 8)

thnx for the tips u should just meet us as we roll into ct and keep us on the slow side...lol

Jeff

thnx for the tips u should just meet us as we roll into ct and keep us on the slow side...lol

Jeff

I agree with Jeff here...maybe we could get an escort...Now that would definetely bring some attention... :D and u could become an honorary Team ScioNRG members...lol.. :D

I'll call the State Police and have Trooper 1 (Helicopter) provide aerial coverage for you guys. LOL

So whats up Inklord, you messing with me about being an Honorary Member?

Now I'm really going to bring my Lidar kit and wait for you guys---J/K

ScionCop 8)

*dubs cop an honorary member as long as he gets that state chopper and 3 cruisers to escort us from the state line....:-D

that WOULD be very hot...make it happen....lol

Jeff


oh no Lidar, please, i can't stand being pulled over for minor offenses...only major ones and getting away with them

see also: boxx run v4.0 NY edition thread around here somewhere

Alright, I'm sorry about being so late, on this reply, but I've been working alot. I've been thinkin about getting a scanner, but I don't wanna transmit anything, I just wanna listen. Is it illegal for me to have it in my car. I read your post earlier about this, but it kinda confused me. I've got 2 friends that have them, just making sure I wasn't breaking any laws when I get one. That's all.

Alright, I'm sorry about being so late, on this reply, but I've been working alot. I've been thinkin about getting a scanner, but I don't wanna transmit anything, I just wanna listen. Is it illegal for me to have it in my car. I read your post earlier about this, but it kinda confused me. I've got 2 friends that have them, just making sure I wasn't breaking any laws when I get one. That's all.

According to several web sites, including this site (http://www.afn.org/~afn09444/scanlaws/scanner5.html), scanner use in a vehicle is legal in Alabama.

Another reference:

http://www.fordyce.org/scanning/scanning_info/scanlaws.html

This is for "SCIONCOP" I repeat "SCIONCOP"!!

Hey ScionCop I am in a real jam. I got stopped and arrested for drinking and driving in CT. I have to go to court in about two weeks and I am scared of what will happen to me. This is my first offense and it's a big one. First time arrested too. I have no idea what to do.

Please, Please if there is anything you can help me out with I would appreciate it.

This is for "SCIONCOP" I repeat "SCIONCOP"!!

Hey ScionCop I am in a real jam. I got stopped and arrested for drinking and driving in CT. I have to go to court in about two weeks and I am scared of what will happen to me. This is my first offense and it's a big one. First time arrested too. I have no idea what to do.

Please, Please if there is anything you can help me out with I would appreciate it.

Get an attorney.

This is for "SCIONCOP" I repeat "SCIONCOP"!!

Hey ScionCop I am in a real jam. I got stopped and arrested for drinking and driving in CT. I have to go to court in about two weeks and I am scared of what will happen to me. This is my first offense and it's a big one. First time arrested too. I have no idea what to do.

Please, Please if there is anything you can help me out with I would appreciate it.

Get an attorney.

Shut the hell up you freaking retard. I guess you really don't have anything to say anyways. You have just about screwed this thread up. ScionCop is cool and knows his sh-t. I had a feeling you were going to jump in and say something when nobody asked you for anything anyways. I don't recall anybody starting there questions with "Bota146 I have a question".

I recall reading you aren't even a Cop so why are you pretending to know anything about "The streets" like ScionCop already told you.

This is a hot thread and very informative and there has been no problems here untill oyubarged in and started giving half ___ input. Good thing ScionCop takes time to read and review some of the dumb sh-t you posted.

ScionCop where are you!!!! I got two weeks I hope to hear from you soon.

This is for "SCIONCOP" I repeat "SCIONCOP"!!

Hey ScionCop I am in a real jam. I got stopped and arrested for drinking and driving in CT. I have to go to court in about two weeks and I am scared of what will happen to me. This is my first offense and it's a big one. First time arrested too. I have no idea what to do.

Please, Please if there is anything you can help me out with I would appreciate it.

Get an attorney.

Shut the hell up you freaking retard. I guess you really don't have anything to say anyways. You have just about screwed this thread up. ScionCop is cool and knows his sh-t. I had a feeling you were going to jump in and say something when nobody asked you for anything anyways. I don't recall anybody starting there questions with "Bota146 I have a question".

I recall reading you aren't even a Cop so why are you pretending to know anything about "The streets" like ScionCop already told you.

This is a hot thread and very informative and there has been no problems here untill oyubarged in and started giving half ___ input. Good thing ScionCop takes time to read and review some of the dumb sh-t you posted.

ScionCop where are you!!!! I got two weeks I hope to hear from you soon.

OK, don't get a lawyer. Plead guilty. :)

Hey fellas....
My old actuall user name was Eddie8124. I have now changed that to "ScionCop".

It's still me. I just changed it so that I can lock in the actuall ScionCop name.

ScionCop 8)

MyTcisWicked....

What kind of help do you need ?

Are you contesting the entire arrest? or are you just concerned of the consequences of your actions? Two big differences.

If your contesting then it's a complex matter that we better take care of it in a AIM Chat room or something. Let me know.

Write down all your questions plus let me know where you got arrested and by what agency.

ScionCop 8)

By request of MyTcisWicked this question has been moved to the private messaging system.

At the conclusion of this communication I will post some info and answer any questions you guys might have about this issue.

ScionCop 8)

Great tips! Thanks this section is a good idea. :)

Great tips! Thanks this section is a good idea. :)

Welcome, mate. 8)

Great tips! Thanks this section is a good idea. :)

Welcome, mate. 8)

Welcome ? Whay should we be thanking you for Bota146 ? This is ScionCops thread and all you've done is try and turn it into a "_____ session".

I guess you really are a dumb ___. I am a Cop to, and all I have to say is that you need to hit your books little boy.

Bota146 stop trying to pretend that your a part of the thread. I see you try very hard to jump ahead of ScionCop and attempt to speak for him but you fall very short kid.


I said my peace Later.