I was wondering if the H-Tech springs from Tein would have any effect on my alignment or camber angle if I were to install them.

 

Yes. Anytime you lower a tC, it will affect alignment and camber.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=105012

 

Any time you remove suspension components you run the risk of effecting your alignment. If you are swapping in parts that will lower your ride height you are more at risk for adversly effecting your alignment. My advise is to get an alignment after you swap out your springs no matter which brand you go with.

 

i have Htechs.......i was able to get a camber alignment within the factory tollerances. a little bit of negative camber is ok, alignment and toe adjustment was within factory tollerance as well. once you lower your car wait a week or two so it settles, then do the alignmet.......
but h-techs are not that aggressive of a drop, so your camber wont be out that much.

 

Which do most of you perfer, the S-Tech or the H-Tech.

 

Htech ride is sloppy, i would go with something more stiff like the TRD, or the Hotchkis, eibach or H&R.

 

aren't the spring rates of the TRD and the Htechs within 10 lb/in for the front and ~1 lb/in for the rear? If they are that close I find it hard to believe it is a sloppy ride if you like th TRDs, do you have any reasoning as to why it is supposedly sloppy?

 

yeah, i drive my car on a regular basis that is part of my reasoning


To me it is sloppy......compared to something like eibach, or h&r. i have driven several other Tc's that have different springs, TRD and h&R, and comparativly speaking the Htechs are more sloppy, spongy, soft then teh other ones or whatever you want to call it.



Yes it is sloppy, my reasoning is personal first hand experince. also my Htechs are sagging on the left side by .25 of an inch in the front corner.

depending on if i keep my Tc, they (htechs) are comming off and im getting something else and these teins are going in the dumpster.

you can get technical, show me spring rates and some B.S mathmatical formula, but when it comes down to it, personal experince with this issue is enough for me when it comes to reasoning.

that answer your question?

 

You can't compare the spring feal on your buddies tC to your tC unless both cars are running the same type and size of tires ont the same wheels, at the same psi and are being driven on the same roads. Any other comparison is crap.

The sagging is an anomaly: It could have happend (and has happened) with any other brand spring.

The H.Techs are a very good daily driver spring at a great price.

 

uuuuuum ok whatever you say

 

lol, you seem upset ... but thanks for the clarification why you feel the way you do about h techs.

 

yea i ve notice my left side drop on my h techs is a lil bit more...kinda bothersome

 

no, im just irritated......its not about you, i just think its funny how people on here discount personal experinces and think that becauase the read something on tirerack or somewhere else that that word is automotive gospel.

when it comes to automotive information, there is facts that can be disputed by personal experince. It not like were dealing with a 100,000 car, its a 16,000 tuner car and alot of people have had various experinces and that is all im trying to express, then you have someone come on here with a statement saying conditions have to be 100% the same or they test is invalid, whatever.

i have had 10 cars in the last 5 years, and have moddified each one, so i find it funny that someone else wants to dispute personal experinces.

i have heard alot that teins sag, same with eibach. I have had both and never had an issue with an eibach spring.

peteyd, how much does yours sag?

 

^ quite a bit. id say about the same maybe .30-.40 lower

 

they are really good

 

Thanks for the imput, Im still not sure with what set I will go with. I will most likly try the H tech springs because my car is more of a daily driver. If I have bad luck then Ill go with some one else. Or by the time I dont want the H techs Ill go find some nice coilovers.

 

vote for coilovers.......

 

If you're going to claim my knowledge is more magazine rack than racetrack then I hope you can back up your statement,

Tires are the first component of your car that makes up how your suspension works. Different wheel/tire packages will make the same springs/shocks/coil overs feel completely different. This is a fact whether you have a $1,500 POS or a $1,000,000 racecar, and that cannot be disputed by "personal experience." I don't care if you've had 10 modified imports or one stock luxo-sedan.

Your post had nothing to do with facts, it had to do with an opinion you were trying to sell as fact. If your "fact" is made from partial information then your "fact" is not that valuable to me. If you had simply said, "I don't like the Tein because I don't like the way they feel," I wouldn't have said a thing. But you claimed that your experience in various cars on myriad set-ups made your statement true in all situations.

I did not attack you or call you a liar. I said your information wasn't accurate, and if you can't handle being corrected then tough. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it—I can come with posts on this board where I acknowledge I provided erroneous information.

It was nothing personal, I'm just trying to provide the OP with accurate information.

 

If you're going to claim my knowledge is more magazine rack than racetrack then I hope you can back up your statement.

Tires are the first component of your car that makes up how your suspension works. Different wheel/tire packages will make the same springs/shocks/coil overs feel completely different. This is a fact whether you have a $1,500 POS or a $1,000,000 racecar, and that cannot be disputed by "personal experience." I don't care if you've had 10 modified imports or one stock luxo-sedan.

Your post had nothing to do with facts, it had to do with an opinion you were trying to sell as fact. If your "fact" is made from partial information then your "fact" is not that valuable to me. If you had simply said, "I don't like the Tein because I don't like the way they feel," I wouldn't have said a thing. But you claimed that your experience in various cars on myriad set-ups made your statement true in all situations.

I did not attack you or call you a liar. I said your information wasn't accurate, and if you can't handle being corrected then tough. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it—I can come with posts on this board where I acknowledge I provided erroneous information.

It was nothing personal, I'm just trying to provide the OP with accurate information.

 

i never said my opinion was fact......it was personal experinces, like i stated. You are the one that made it into me "selling opionion as fact"

im not trying to argue with you, but you came off like your a know it all........
and if you read real real carefull i never mentioned you, in fact its a general statement about people on this site claiming to know it all, again, i never said what i had to say is fact, you intperpeted it that way and now are trying to make it into "im an expert and to hell with everyone elses experinces". the only time i backed up my statement was when i stated i have been in another Tc with different springs and that I and the operative word is I, and that I could feel a difference. Not that im claiming spring rates and damper type is factually the same and or different. but i see your point of view, and its appriciated.

anyway...
thanks for your imput.