OK, we definately have someone who is trying to blow smoke up people's a**es. Everyone knows of the turbonetics kit for our tCs right?

http://www.turbo-kits.com/tC_turbo_kits.html

There's a guy on Myspace, just search Scion and it'll be the picture of our emblem, and he's saying that his brother's friend has a TT tC pushing 250 hp. HAHAHAHAHA My mouth dropped at how stupid this guy was. He even had pictures and it was that kit in the link I posted! Single turbo, wastegate and blowoff valve.

What was even worse, he said that it was "electronically supercharged" too. hahahaha Yes, there are electronic supers, but .......um........you CAN'T supercharge a turboed engine! This guy is a complete idiot and I'm not sure what's worse.......him pitching this sh*t, or his friend that believes him!

And really, if a TT is only putting you at 250 hp, then you need to reevaluate what type of turbos you got and see if the gerbel inside one of them didn't die.

 

You CAN SC and turbo charge an engine....but in a scion tC not anytime soon....

 

I'm not being an a**, but could you explain how something that creates a vacuum(supercharger) can work with something creating an outward amount of pressure(turbo)? They would conflict and create a huge amount of lag.

 

This might help you a little bit: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=131235

 

Electronic Supers can be turned on and off which could help in low RPM moments to get you moving and then kick it off so the turbo can take effect, but electronic super chargers tell you not to do that. The supercharger should only be turned on at WOT. I'll try to find the site i read that.

 

^^^Actually the supercharger almost completely deletes the lag.Read this forum.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...235&highlight=

 

I guess I can see how that may work but wouldn't the supercharger be pointless at extremely high rpms where the turbo is taking over? Wouldn't that mean the engine would be pulling harder to create more power, which would negatively effect the turbo boost?

 

One car that comes to mind that a company put out that was TC and SC is Lancia Delta S4 which is a rally car but it was made in 1985.
http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au...a_delta_s4.htm

470hp and 333ft/tq for racing and thats from a 1.8L engine.

 

I know exactly what you're talking about. Also, the new Rabit I believe is set up like that.

 

We offer a kit so Mini Cooper S owners can twin charge their cars:
Here

It's a sexy thing!


The new Rabbit isn't , but VW is also coming out with a nwe 1.4L SuperTurbo charged engine that'll put out 170 hp and 170 tq and get 35/38 mpg!

But this cat is clearly off his rocker talking about the electronic SC.

 

Nice set up.

 

It's a pretty neat system. A lot of the VW guys are hoping for a Polo/Polo GTI over here with the TSI motor to compete with the Yaris/Versa/Fit/etc.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005..._vws_new_.html
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publi...ter_1496.shtml

There are rumors the TSI will be available in the Golfs over here, too.

 

There is a subura here that is twin turboed with a super charger. So yes it can be done. The supercharger picks up the turbo lag and then the turbos kick in. He has it set on a switch also. He can run it if he wants or not. Pretty cool how it is set up.

 

this discussion belongs in the tC forced induction forum. i'm moving it there.

 

Damn, I thought I was the only one with a TT tC...

j/k

 

Keep in mind that if you supercharge and turbocharger if you are still running the Supercharger as a compressor when the turbo spools you are compounding the boost. So if your supercharger is making 5 PSI and your turbo spools up to 5 PSI you arent running 10 PSI you are making 25 PSI. Watch the cylinder head fly off the motor :D

 

haha...cant s/c and turbocharge an engine...called twincharging...pffffff duhhh...they are almost done with one for the Cobalt 2.4 I believe...ridiculous...and the 2.0.

without lag? the reason for BOTH of them is NO LAG...there will be no turbo lag....S/C for low rpm/boost and turbo for high rpm/boost....duhhh come on now

 

It's not a TT. He has the turbonetics single turbo setup.

 

Still need to see it. I believe that it can be done, but not on a tC. Not enough room. Post some pics of the dual charge b/c i'm not doubting it anymore, but I'd still like to see what it looks like installed.

 

Someone already has a Manifold fabed up to allow Twin Charging. They had to relocate the piping work to allow for the s/c to sit above the turbo.