Which company should I go with for the "s" pipe?

 

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/s...products_id=30

 

uh..no s-pipe will yield 11-13whp, you're lucky to even get 11-13whp with a header alone. In fact there's a sticky on performance parts roundup test, and the most a header will give is 8-9whp on the dyno sheet. Realistically an s-pipe will give you a very modest gain.

tcbyrc, just search around, it's not that hard to figure out which s-pipe to go with. MR, CC, ZPI, Invidia? are some that make them. As far as "which company" you should go with, there are threads about user experiences with s-pipes, just read up on them.

 

zpi's s-pipe causes a leak =\ i've had like 3 shops look into it.. they replaced the gasket 4 times (2 of them were factory gaskets and 2 were the shops)... the reason: the opening of the zpi s-pipe doesnt really sit flush to the gasket.. and there will be a slight opening that you can't see... but if you put your hand there, you can feel the air. you can hear it the air when you accelerate, but it will go away after 5 minutes of driving as the car warms up since heat expands metal..

 

That is totally incorrect. The ZPI s-pipe does not cause a leak. YOUR's might have leaked, but this is not to say it is manufactured in such a way that the S-pipe in general will leak. Had the ZPI S-Pipe with their exhaust, and never experienced any sorta leak. My boy Clayton runs it as well, and reports no leak. Don't make a general assumption that it's manufactured to produce a leak.


Sounds like you should have called Kenny for installation tips..

 

rhythemnsmoke, seeing how you have a biased response, in sp0t's defense you shouldn't be telling him if he can make assumptions or not, afterall, he owned one that had a leak, and he's just expressing his experience with the product is all. If you bought a product that had a leak what would you assume? You'd feel you wasted your money and time. Maybe he had one bad s-pipe, or there might be a design flaw, either case, as a first hand customer, he has the right to say whatever he feels like about the product, afterall he bought it. Keep things in perspective and consider all things, there's no reason to tell the guy how to review a product he bought.

 

^ Everyone has some bias, and Rhythm is a ZPI supporter to the extreme.

ZPI is a big supporter of Scionlife Innovation with new parts and improvements and their pipe is just as good as others... (If you have a rare fitment problem, immediately call keisha or kenny and I'm quite sure they'll take care of it for you, with exhaust work, expansion and contraction sometimes tweak things a bit)

S-Pipe differences are minimal at best, one companies is going to be very similiar to anothers, support a SL sponsor and you'll be all good.

 

To keep things simple, I have a leak. It started when I added the zpi s-pipe. I've done many combinations and maneuvering trying to fit the damn thing to stay put and sit flush with the gasket.. no success. Then that's when I turned to my local muffler shops. Same result. I literally spent over $100 worth of labor JUST for this S-pipe. The leak, that is. I understand that you've had good experiences with ZPI, good for you.. but not for me, sir. There's another person on here that has the same problem as me with ZPI's s-pipe, but the whole "leak" thing is nothing to him anymore. So based on MY experience, if you (to tcbyrc) want the "risk" of getting a leak.. go for it. If only the ZPI s-pipe opening was a little bit wider, like the stock s-pipe, the gasket would sit flush INSIDE the s-pipe instead of leaving that troublesome gap in between.

I'm not trying to bash on ZPI in any way.. this was my experience based on their s-pipe and I stated my opinion. So that's that.. I've already tried IM'ing Kenny and he said it might of been the gasket. I replaced that, still same results.

 

oh, and to make things easier.. i'll add a vid/sound clip here tomorrow to show you what im talkin about.

 

I would assume that MY S-pipe was defected. If there are other people that were problem free, then I couldn't say that for the whole product in general now can I. That's all I was saying. If I was rockin the Turbonetics turbo kit, and the turbo blew up for some reason, I woould not go and say the turbonetics kit has a defective product....yet 100's of tC's running around with the Tnetics kit problem free. People will first blame a product before they blame themselves for an improper install, turning up the boost to high, and blowing the motor ....etc. This is only the point that I was merely trying to convey..

 

Do you have a thread with pics of the touble area? If not, can you get pics, and maybe we can get to solving your problem. I am not 100% sure on it yet, but when we had ours installed, I don't recall a gasket being used at all. Have you tried running without a gasket? Like I said not 100% sure on it. I will have to double check with you via an IM to Kenny. I can't check for you on our car anymore, as it's welded up to the turbo housing.

 

petty posts, obviously off topic here.

tcbyrc, just search around, hopefully you found some help in all this.

 

in essence its all going to boil down to which brand you want. they all esseintly do the same job and will wield the same gains. But i havent had any fitment issues with my zpi spipe and I have one of the orginals Sp0t you have a defect one just contact zpi and they will fix it for you. DA its been proven that the spipe is the most restrictive part of th exhuast system so adding that will yield more gains then a header.


*** keep the bashing away and keep this on topic or it will be locked***

 

yeah i'll take pics/vids of it tomorrow and start a new thread.. i'll let you know. thanks for the help.

 

I have a CC s pipe with AW header and they did not connect well...two trips to a shop and sealer liquid was required. The donut gasket is the issue.

 

wich s pipe will fit well to the aw header?

 

the pics/vid of my leak can be found here:

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...824174#1824174

 

I have the same problem. It seems that the left side or the drivers side of the s pipe does not connect all the way and is leaking when i rev the engine. I wonder if the leak can loose little bit of hp or torque.?

 

i dont think it looses power.. its just annoying.

 

does anyone have any input on the Megan S pipe? Do they fit well? That is the only peice in my exhaust that is not done.