I am willing to swap transmissions with anyone that has a Manual.
And we can split the cost of what it would take to install.
If someone is willing to do this, please let me know........
randode
11-25-2003, 11:12 PM
you so crazy. 8)
yanges
11-26-2003, 12:49 AM
is that really possible? can you do it in an xB :?:
PSyCHo-RaGe
11-26-2003, 02:22 AM
Your 100% better off just trading your car in for a manual, not only will the costs be high, but you will also encounter so many problems that its not worth it. And also your warrenty will be gone.
BB_Bling
11-26-2003, 02:58 AM
Kind of amazing really.
The car hasn't even been released to the rest of the country yet... and there's already "I wanna make my car a manual" on the boards?
I thought this was a big deal over on the 300Z forums... I guess while the boards change, the people stay the same?
Cheshire_Cat
11-26-2003, 03:22 AM
is that really possible? can you do it in an xB :?:
I've contacted Scion, they said it can be done. But to order a new Manual tranny and install it, they would charge $9,000.
So, anyone want to swap?
BB_Bling
11-26-2003, 04:33 AM
Trade your XA auto in for a TC with a six speed!
You can be the first!
You can do it!
DenZinz
11-26-2003, 05:41 AM
Your 100% better off just trading your car in for a manual, not only will the costs be high, but you will also encounter so many problems that its not worth it. And also your warrenty will be gone.
Jason, I agree with the psycho dude.
11-26-2003, 05:56 AM
I also agree, turn in your auto for a manual.
randode
11-26-2003, 04:45 PM
pull your parts off it, and ebay that sucker. you will probably get more than you owe on it, then buy another one.
proto_k7
11-26-2003, 05:00 PM
Why didnt you buy a manual tranny in the first place?
It probobly eats you up every time you get rev'd on huh? Are you down-shifting your automatic too?
proto_k7
11-26-2003, 05:01 PM
Why didnt you buy a manual tranny in the first place?
It probobly eats you up every time you get rev'd on huh? Are you down-shifting your automatic too?
GINNJUICE
11-26-2003, 05:08 PM
u should have just bought a manual if u want it.
yanges
11-26-2003, 07:40 PM
Why didnt you buy a manual tranny in the first place?
It probobly eats you up every time you get rev'd on huh? Are you down-shifting your automatic too?
one post would have been sufficient :? we get the idea.....
Mr_scion
11-26-2003, 07:44 PM
Why didnt you buy a manual tranny in the first place?
It probobly eats you up every time you get rev'd on huh? Are you down-shifting your automatic too?
why is this posted 7 timeshttp://www.dtmpower.net/forum/images/smilies/hmm.gif
11-26-2003, 10:31 PM
The website was messing up this morning. Even I posted up twice in the nevada forum
Cheshire_Cat
11-27-2003, 04:34 AM
I'm not going to trade it in, I've already done too much with it, I just want to add to it.
So:
A: I would like to swap with someone and split the costs.
B: If you guys know of a company that sells xA trannys at a discount.
C: If you know of a company that sells manual racing trannys.
These are my ideas. Just post it here.
Thanks......
its_ikon
11-27-2003, 05:46 PM
converting to manual is far harder job then people expect. it the long run it is not really worth it.
what are you trying to achieve by doing the swap?
Cheshire_Cat
11-27-2003, 11:48 PM
converting to manual is far harder job then people expect. it the long run it is not really worth it.
what are you trying to achieve by doing the swap?
I want to race at the track. So I do it with this, or I save up for the 1998 Toyota Supra that I've been wanting forever.
I'm also more comfortable with a manual.
So, why did I not get a manual xA?
:roll: Because I'm an idiot.
its_ikon
11-28-2003, 12:41 AM
if you plan on racing this, i would definately go for the swap. if it is a daily driver then i would probably think it wouldn't be the best thing to do. my friend did a auto to manual swap on his 98 prelude and he is doing pretty good with it. make sure you get good work and go for the cheapest. i will see if i can find anything around here. couldn't you also pull the tranny from an echo? there are more of those around then a scion.
Cheshire_Cat
11-28-2003, 04:27 AM
Make sure you get good work and go for the cheapest. I will see if i can find anything around here. Couldn't you also pull the tranny from an echo? there are more of those around then a scion.
I would really appreciate your help. I'm glad that someone is taking me seriously.
Thanks for your help.8)
George
11-28-2003, 06:43 AM
Does anyone have a Manual xA?
Do you want an Automatic?
I am willing to swap transmissions with anyone that has a Manual.
And we can split the cost of what it would take to install.
If someone is willing to do this, please let me know........
Ummm, why not just swap cars? :)
showpaojoe
11-28-2003, 05:35 PM
So do you think the echo tranny would work with the xA? That would be your cheapest route if possible. Why not just build up your engine first, that might be cheaper, and then take that to a track for now.
DenZinz
11-28-2003, 07:28 PM
I believe the Echo has different gear ratios, so if you do it, it wont have the peppiness (if thats a word) the normal xA's have.
Jason, It's probably cheaper and easier to take all the stuff off the car (luckly they are all bolts on and not perminate installs) and trade it in for a 5 spd. Then reinstall all the stuff back on the 5 spd. Im sure verone could work something out, plus a 5 spd is cheaper than a AT, you may just break even!
If you need help converting it back to stock let me know.
Its giong to cost you well over a grand or 2 to do the swap, especially for the 5spd to AT conversion.
George
11-28-2003, 08:50 PM
I believe the Echo has different gear ratios, so if you do it, it wont have the peppiness (if thats a word) the normal xA's have.
The transmission ratios are the same, but the final drive ratios are different. Toyota didn't spend a nickel that they didn't have to!
Now, the Scion final drive ratios are different for the auto and manual, with the auto being taller than the manual. There is some opportunity here for swapping if you want taller manual gears or shorter auto gears.
George
Cheshire_Cat
11-28-2003, 10:04 PM
Why not just build up your engine first, that might be cheaper, and then take that to a track for now.
What else can I add to the power of the xA?
I have the AEM CAI, and the Dual Exhaust. There is also talk of a sport tranny for the xA. I have also been told about a company called Level 10, which adds parts to automatics to make the more powerful.
Any thoughts?
Jason, It's probably cheaper and easier to take all the stuff off the car (luckly they are all bolts on and not perminate installs) and trade it in for a 5 spd. Then reinstall all the stuff back on the 5 spd. Im sure verone could work something out, plus a 5 spd is cheaper than a AT, you may just break even!
If you need help converting it back to stock let me know.
Its giong to cost you well over a grand or 2 to do the swap, especially for the 5spd to AT conversion.
Thanks, but remember I have the dual exhaust. I won't give that up. I don't mind spending a few grand on the swap, I should be able to afford it by the end of Feb.
showpaojoe
11-28-2003, 10:09 PM
If you've got a few grand I'm sure someone could piece together a turbo kit for you and then you'll be the first one with that. People are having trouble with just nitrous so if you could pull that off, then you would definately have one amazing machine.
DenZinz
11-29-2003, 04:24 PM
Why not just build up your engine first, that might be cheaper, and then take that to a track for now.
What else can I add to the power of the xA?
I have the AEM CAI, and the Dual Exhaust. There is also talk of a sport tranny for the xA. I have also been told about a company called Level 10, which adds parts to automatics to make the more powerful.
Any thoughts?
Jason, It's probably cheaper and easier to take all the stuff off the car (luckly they are all bolts on and not perminate installs) and trade it in for a 5 spd. Then reinstall all the stuff back on the 5 spd. Im sure verone could work something out, plus a 5 spd is cheaper than a AT, you may just break even!
If you need help converting it back to stock let me know.
Its giong to cost you well over a grand or 2 to do the swap, especially for the 5spd to AT conversion.
Thanks, but remember I have the dual exhaust. I won't give that up. I don't mind spending a few grand on the swap, I should be able to afford it by the end of Feb.
We should be able to unbolt the exhaust and bolt it on the new car...
Anyways... Ntrous would be give you the most bang for your buck, but then it goes back to the tranny issue again. I have no clue how it would handle it.
Cheshire_Cat
11-29-2003, 05:16 PM
I want to keep it. I'll just add to it.
I'll build up the engine, and swap the tranny later.........
So do you guys have any ideas how to increase the power? :?
Longoscion
11-30-2003, 01:56 AM
Chesire,
Trade in your car with me buddy.
Verone
joedjin
12-14-2003, 09:18 AM
If you are going to swap the tranny; have you considered a matrix tranny.
I don't know if it will fit, but if it does you'll be shifting six. either way it'll cost a butt load to do it :mrgreen:
Cheshire_Cat
12-14-2003, 09:45 AM
I could find out if that would work, it sounds like a good idea.
Thanks for helping me with my decision. :D
its_ikon
12-14-2003, 04:37 PM
If you are going to swap the tranny; have you considered a matrix tranny.
I don't know if it will fit, but if it does you'll be shifting six. either way it'll cost a butt load to do it :mrgreen:
are you talking about the base, xr or xrs?
the base and xr matrix uses the same tranny found in the corolla, celica gt and mr2. i believe it is the c-52.
kdanie
12-16-2003, 03:33 AM
I'm new here, just bought a XA 2 weeks ago.... It's an auto too but I planned it that way!
If you really-REALLY want a manual trans, you will need some patience and a lot of mechanical skill....
The patience part comes from cruising the wrecking yards looking for a XA with a manual trans that got smacked hard enough to total it but didn't damage the trans (look for a rear-ender). Buy the entire car and take it home.
The mechanical skill part comes in when you swap everything from the manual car to your automatic car. A factory tech manual will come in VERY handy for this evolution.
Good luck if you tackle this project, it's bigger than you think.
How to get more power from a SCION???
The commercialy made headers I have seen are NO BETTER than the stock header-which is pretty good for a factory header. Defiantely not worth the $$ they want for them. I could design and build a header (that's what I do for fun) that would add about 15hp and 15lbft of torque but it would cost about $500 (uncoated) for just the header and then you would need a custom exhaust with good muffler and high flow cat to make it work, so close to $1100 total (coated). $73 per HP is not a good deal unless you are working on a sport bike!! Toyota would probably void your warranty when they saw it.
The Toyota claims their TRD muffler add 2 hp, sad I'd say! I don't know how much an intake system would add... maybe a couple.
No cams available, no aftermarket ECUs yet, no larger throttle bodies, no custom intake manifolds. Sometimes the leading edge of fashion sucks!!!