ok well im thinking about getting a n20 system but i dont really know to much about the subject ive read a couple articles but no real sugestions.

well here is what im looking to get out of it

1. low cost
2. about 30 to 50 whp
3.no blown up car
4.hidden so mayb a small bottle. how long do they last?

here is what i got sofar

probly a zex kit dry 50 shot?

im looking to spend around $550

not dry. do a wet shot. you don't have to rely on the computer to add the fuel for you.

check out superfa.

Read up my posts in Nitrous, and you'll learn almost all you need to know... just running a base Zex kit isn't the best idea though, but read up, as many of us have already played around enough in the field.

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wet kits seem to be alot more money.. and i just want it to mess around with on the high way and stuff.....


on the zex website does that kit come with everything i need or do i need some other things?

Do your research first.... Read up...

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97856&highlight=nitrous

forget the small bottle, it's not gonna be enough. Here's a link to a Nitrous forum, http://www.nitrousforum.com/ ...good stuff there as well.

i went to a shop today and they had the same exact setup as the zex kit but made by nitrous works same features but its 450 bucks ..

Dont do dry. Scary things happen. Go wet its worth the money.

what scray things? ive heard worse things about wet


plus for 450 bucks its a really good deal i might go pick it up 2 morrow


nitrous works a good brand?

well i got 2 weeks till my next pay check cuz i did not get enough.

will a 10 pound bottle fit under where my spare is? here seems to be alot of empty space on the right.

well i got 2 weeks till my next pay check cuz i did not get enough.

will a 10 pound bottle fit under where my spare is? here seems to be alot of empty space on the right.

Read up before you buy anything, Becuase most of the times that nitrious blows a motor up its becuase the driver didnt do his homework. They either ran too lean of a shot, or too big of a shot. Installed it wrong, ran it cold. things like that. Wet is safer then dry as long as you stay with a normal shot. just my .02

wet is a harder install... can some one show me a site or product number of the one they would recomend... i dont wanna spend more than 600........

you gotta pay to play bro. a decent kit is going to be 500+. i w ould suggest running a wet system also. and d the research. you can also make your kit cheaper by buying some parts seperate.

but as a side note. i wouldnt spray. everyone i know has blown sooner or later from spraying. and for that kinda of money your dumping on spray i would rather save up extra for a head swap and emanage. cuz whats gonna happen when you run out of spray and gota refill.. you have to think of the long term use. in the end what would have been more costly.. months of buying spray + start up. or simple head swap with an ems.

if anything dude swing by the miami lakes meet. you can ask me or 2 other guys that go about it who are experienced with nAWZ!

what scray things? ive heard worse things about wet




I just think it isnt as safe as a wet kit and have seen more cars blown with a dry than a wet kit.

i dont think ill blow my engine with a 50 shot'
if people are running turbo kits that double that..

Not with a 50 shot, you shouldnt blow it. But I wouldnt go much above that, say 75.

show me kit and some prices ...... the model number that we drive scions suggested i cant find it was 82081..

dry i can take out any time and wet i wuld need to get new fuel hoses and such?


i think for me the dry sounds way better the more i read


also do you think i could beat an srt4 with a ok driver witht he kit?

Wet is the way to go, from what ive heard in diff car meets and from friends who have planned on getting nitrous or have it.

yea thats what i keep hearing but why.....


what if i want to take my nitrous out?


if i do wet i probly cant install my self.


ive read aot on both but i dont see whats so bad about dry besides its not as precise of a spray as a wet.....

A wet kit comes with the hardware to run a nitrous set up with the proper ammount of fuel. Seeing as how a dry shot is plain nitrous into the motor with the lack of fuel unless your running a fuel controller ( aka. more money on top of the setup ).
A wet kit, yes is a pain in the ___ to take out because your going to have to replace a fuel line. ( a rubber hose ). But safer due to the fact your getting the ammount of fuel you need to co-inside with the nitrous. i'd suggest running colder plugs either way.
btw....a rubber fuel hose - 2.99. A blown up motor because you'd rather save a couple of bucks...a whole hell of a lot more money then a wet kit and the proper precautions.
I ran a wet kit on my 1.8t Gti, it took a total of 20 minutes to take out and replace a fuel line. Never had a problem what so ever...I think I ended up buying a NOS wet kit, if I remember correctly it was 499.99 or something, ran colder plugs from NGK, and had no problems what so ever.
Good luck....hope you make a good choice.

ok wow thats the best reply ive heard so far! ok so its not a huge seal just a little hose !



ok im deff goign with wet then.



any complete kits that you would recommend?


also where in the tc could i fuly hide the bottle. im not sure of the dimensions of a tank witht he harness on it

Depends on how big your bottle is. You can get bottles almost any size. I'm thinkin about going with nitrous too. And I was prolly gonna try to cut my glove box a little and mount 2 paintball widthed tanks in there maybe a little longer tho.

i dont mind the size i just dont want my dad to c it.


im thinking in he trunk to the right of the spare tire mayb if i cut the foam but im not sure how high the tank sits since the top has to be 15 degrees higher than the bottom ....

I've never looked where the spare is b/c I have the factory sub and just havent looked under there, but you can lock the glove compartment. And you wouldnt have to run the nitrous line far either. Thinking about hiding my switches in the little compartment behing the shifter.

it should fit . and if i get the zex kit idont think it has switches since its full throttle activated

what is the kit i need direct port wet system for 4cyl efi #82030 $680

or the wet complete kit #82021 $530

All kits have a switch. But seeing as how your planning on hiding, I'd be safe to assume your not installing it yourself. The switch will be the activation switch, to turn on the system. The WOT switch is on the peddle, which your right you can't see. ( Always can hide the activation switch somewhere...it's easy ) But when installed, let them know it needs to be hidden well. They'll do their best. I did one for a friend on a TC. the truck ( hatch ) where the spare is, works. Just let them know...You can hide everything somewhat well...
Btw, since you asked, I'd say go with a simple NOS kits are nothing special, just a switch, some cool little solnoids and a bottle. Nothing exciting, specially since your trying to hide it...shouldn't matter.
Just a complete kit....if you'd like to know more, i know their kinda far from you. But off of powerline between oakland park and commecial blvd, their s a shop named, Jung Performance. A couple old guys own it but are nitrous happy. They know more about the damn thing then anyone I know. Try contacting them too...they'll steer you in the right direction.
Good luck.

A wet kit comes with the hardware to run a nitrous set up with the proper ammount of fuel. Seeing as how a dry shot is plain nitrous into the motor with the lack of fuel unless your running a fuel controller ( aka. more money on top of the setup ).
A wet kit, yes is a pain in the butt to take out because your going to have to replace a fuel line. ( a rubber hose ). But safer due to the fact your getting the ammount of fuel you need to co-inside with the nitrous. i'd suggest running colder plugs either way.
btw....a rubber fuel hose - 2.99. A blown up motor because you'd rather save a couple of bucks...a whole hell of a lot more money then a wet kit and the proper precautions.
I ran a wet kit on my 1.8t Gti, it took a total of 20 minutes to take out and replace a fuel line. Never had a problem what so ever...I think I ended up buying a NOS wet kit, if I remember correctly it was 499.99 or something, ran colder plugs from NGK, and had no problems what so ever.
Good luck....hope you make a good choice.


A dry system uses the stock MAF to add fuel...it's not just dumping nitrous into the combustion chamber. The stock cpu senses the additional oxygen and adds fuel through the stock system. If you run a small shot it is completely safe...up to 75hp easy.

Your right, the MAF does. But i've seen and have run into the same problem of allowing the MAF to do that. But for people who seem like they don't know whats going on when using nitrous, why offer something that can be complicated to them. Use a simple set up.
A set up which gives the fuel, they know it's giving the fuel which doesn't allow for question.
Thats like giving someone a turbo kit on their car and saying " heres a boost controller, tune what you want " For someone who doesn't know...will have a problem and could blow something up.

so what areyou suggesting to me wet or dry?


my car engine is very importnat and im willing to waait a lil longer and get more money to be safe.

only the tank needs to be hidden not the switch...... i could just say its fake if my botle is off i wont do anyhing.

any one in miami know how to install?

how much is install at a shop?

Go with a wet system. I currently have a nitrous works in my tC and i love it. Can't go wrong with Barry Grant. I'm not going to say what shot i'm running mainly b/c i have a custom header and full custom dual exhaust but you will be fine with a 50 wet shot. good luck in your decisions man

Look for reps in miami or ft lauderdale ( ftlauderdale: Gr Technologies, dynamic turbo, unforgettable snp, - to name a few that have good reps )
I'd go with a wet system as i've been saying all along. The kit doesn't matter so much brand wise, just get a single wet fogger kit. Most shops will cost roughly 200 +/- to install, you'd have to look around imo.
Good luck again..

You can also hide it very easily.... put the nozzle on the underside of the intake manifold at the bottom.. all you have to do is remove the downpipe which is four bolts.. nothing major.. you can then run the solenoids up into the engine bay but keep them fairly well hidden. 10lb bottle stays very nicely where the spare tire is located... just take the spare out. invest in roadside assistane then lol. I pitched the WOT switch and went with a NOS brand momentary switch.. ditched the BIG blue cover on it to expose the red micro switch.. drilled a hole in my gear shifter knob at the top and installed it there..... ran the wires down under my shift boot and into the appropriate places... nobody ever knows i have it. happy spraying

this sounds better and better...


whats the highest i can run safely i have header inatake and zpi pully and im an auto so im looking for all the hp i can get.



also one more question im trying to go over this in my head but i dont c it.

how does all these swiches work? pedal on switch and the reg switch? how do i turn on the purge?

this sounds better and better...


whats the highest i can run safely i have header inatake and zpi pully and im an auto so im looking for all the hp i can get.



also one more question im trying to go over this in my head but i dont c it.

how does all these swiches work? pedal on switch and the reg switch? how do i turn on the purge?

Your right, the MAF does. But i've seen and have run into the same problem of allowing the MAF to do that. But for people who seem like they don't know whats going on when using nitrous, why offer something that can be complicated to them. Use a simple set up.
A set up which gives the fuel, they know it's giving the fuel which doesn't allow for question.
Thats like giving someone a turbo kit on their car and saying " heres a boost controller, tune what you want " For someone who doesn't know...will have a problem and could blow something up.

What problem have you run into? It's hard to believe anyone has run into any problems installing, or running a dry nitrous system unless they used too big a shot of nitrous. In that case the person doing that is a dumbass. I also had no idea all a wet system required was a $2.99 rubber hose. What did you attach this rubber hose to? Did you cut your fuel line and T off of it?

A dry system is nothing like "Thats like giving someone a turbo kit on their car and saying " heres a boost controller, tune what you want ". I have to wonder if you've ever used one.

And whatever you do, do not ditch the pedal switch!

Do your own research. when you do I'm sure you'll find the answers you're looking for. They certainly arent here.

First of all, taking apart a wet nitrous kit all the replacing is a fuel line. And if you don't plan on using it again, whatever you drilled into for the lines. ( aka an intake pipe )
And yes, I cut the fuel line and had T'd it off. Which was the easiest way to do it when we we're working on it.
And to your comments, people who just want power and to beat srt4's with their kits, aren't really looking into all the precautions. because if they did, it wouldn't be coming back to here with the questions, " What kit should i buy, I wanna make enough power to beat a srt4 with a decent driver " People like that, aren't going to look into everything you need to. So yes, it's like giving someone a turbo kit on the car, telling them what they need to know, and because they know no better they turn the boost up and have problems.

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this is so confusing..

my best friend has an srt4 and he was wondering if i would be him. why i asked.


and all i care about is my engine. which is why im asking so many questions !!

i just want to know a decent kit for my car and all i get is wet or dry or some a hole that says i dont care about my engine. :nope: :nope: :nope:

only reason i did it was so it wasn't spraying every time i had the pedal mashed... made me concentrate more. i spray when i want to... not when my pedal says to. It's not for everyone though that's for sure. Would you want a 100 shot spraying in first gear when your wheels are hopping? hell no. My fuel line is also t'd off. easiest way to do it. quick question for everyone... has anyone used nitto nt555r's and do they give enough traction?

so i would have to buy the traction control window thing aswell right....... cuz i canot spray in1st gear can i?

that's why i went with a momentary switch... i just make sure i have the pedal mashed.. and spray around 4k rpm's...

I liked falken azeni's. they had AMAZING traction

thanks neo, i'll have to look at those. just want something for the track that i can take with me.. change and go home

so what if i had the pedal switch and im stped and i floor it the nos would go off at 800 rpm?

doesnt make much sense

Pedal switch runs off of an activation switch. So if the system is on, when your at WOT you'll be spraying. So the point is, to have a system on switch, so when ur rdy...and you go wot you'll spray

i'm all about the momentary switch, guess i got that from my mechanic. He hates WOT switches. Everyone else i know runs a momentary switch.

it's all perference. I personally like a momentary switch, something I can turn on and off without a problem. I've seen some people pop the motor b/c they forgot to turn off the system on WOT and kept spraying... ya know, try to catch up and it's happening...lose thought.. lol

hahahahaha i've seen that crap happen.. kinda funny... sucks for them though. i noticed this last trip to the track that i wasn't thinking about driving and just doin it and was turning some ok times just no traction

Anybody have any experience or thoughts on the Venom Nitrous sytem?

nah, don't need all that computer controlled bullcrap lol

I'm glad you guys are getting this fella started off right!!! :pray:

kinda sorta ...

ok well im thinking about getting a n20 system but i dont really know to much about the subject ive read a couple articles but no real sugestions.

well here is what im looking to get out of it

1. low cost
2. about 30 to 50 whp
3.no blown up car
4.hidden so mayb a small bottle. how long do they last?

here is what i got sofar

probly a zex kit dry 50 shot?

im looking to spend around $550


As per the original post...

You need to stay with what you originally thought you should go with. DRY. Do not attempt to use the FATF Edition shifter mounted momentary switch. If you feel like jumping up to a bigger shot later just add another solenoid. 30whp is a piece of cake with the dry set-up and most people are very happy with them. Do your research!

now im thinking if im gunna sped all this money might as well go big so mayb a 50-75 shot id rather go bigger but if its going to risk my engine then i wont.

right now im thinking the nitrous works dry shot 15 pound tank and the zex v purge kit.


If i can get more hp froma wet kit and be just as safe ill go for it.



what kind of times do you think ll be geting from a 50 shot with my mods. im a lil fatser than a stock stick tc. IM AUTO!

I already told you what i'm running and what size of shot. should be in the 13's with the trap speed. I'll get that solved this winter seeing as how the track is shut down now, Friday was the last night to race.

13's woah

i'm running stock tires and too soft of springs in the rear.. they're only 250lbs/inch rated. just 5lbs/inch over stock. Not the greatest so i'm getting A TON of weight transfer. The front springs are nice and stiff so they're not an issue. I really don't have any weight reduction except the seats... went with lightweight racing seats. bottle for the spare was actually a weight increase and the custom header, exhaust and downpipe are heavier but it has enough hp to compensate. I'm trapping a 98.86 with all the spinning i'm doing.. that might tell ya what i should be running

well i dont spin with my pzero nero + im auto so i should be able to shot all the way through.


im gunna start with a 50 shot wet and the full throttle switch.

if im at the light remember im auto so i cant rev do i turn my toggle switch on or turn it on when im full throttle over 3 k rpm?

that'll work

is that how its supposed to be? seems odd

http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ZX&Product_Code=82021SD&Category_Code=CLEARANCE




is this a good one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-Nitrous-System-4-6-Cyl-Wet-Universal-Kit-NIB_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33740QQihZ006QQitemZ160026935472QQrdZ1
there ya go.. cheaper

its a 10 pound bottle its to smal ill be at the shop every other day cuz im also getting a purge..

but that is a good price.

10lb bottle is alot lol. if you're purgeing that much... you're showing off too much. go with a show purge and skip the nitrous... cuz that sounds like you just wanna show off. just my opinion... i'm running a 100 shot ... 5 passes... 2nd to 4th gear 4k rpm's to 6k rpm's and playing around on the street and my bottle is still fine.

it will be cool for a while but probly get old like everything else.

but ill be using it more on the street more than the track. mayb i wont use it as much is i think i will

probably not.. it's alot more fun on the track than the street

mayb your right can i buy every thing but the bottle? cuz look here he goes to my meets http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=136611&highlight= cheap plus a purge

I just wanted to mention that I saw a deal on ebay for a full ZEX wet kit for $500 shipped. With a polished (chrome) bottle it cost $530 shipped.

Pretty good deal.

that would be a hella expensive nitrous kit b/c you'd have to buy your fuel and nitrous solenoids plus the extra line.. not worth it.. but worth it if you just wanna show off

i dont wanna just show off i want both speed more than anything. i just want the purge to purge infront of school and ____.



some thing about those zex kits keeps me interested


i dont have 500 right now i have 400 next paycheck ;(

show off in front of school? hahahahaha just skip the purge.. you don't want anyone to know you have it.. trust me. Nothing like pulling up to the line against someone.. they look at your car and they laugh.. then you toast them

very true every one allready starirs at my body kit......



10 lb equalls like 95 sec of boost on 75 shot

95 seconds is alot lol

hell yeah! thats kit is ncie but he zex kit has that computer that changes a/f ratios.


thats might be work another 100 bucks plus the throttle switch.


eaither way i got to more weks till i get my money to think about it but at least im going ina direction. now its just how much do i want to spend

every one at the eets is saying im going to be blowin my engine .... and most say to get dry shot im def going to keep it low till i get a a/f gauge.

very true every one allready starirs at my body kit......



10 lb equalls like 95 sec of boost on 75 shot

skoolz not wat it usd 2 b... :rofl:

serious question now,
1) can toyota see you've been boosting once you take it out?
2) will a stock xB be able to handle a 50 shot?

^ Yes and no... if they look well enough and depending on how you install/uninstall, they can tell that you modified the engine and have enough clues to deny warranty. and yes, a stock xB should be able to handle such a small shot.

Don't know anything about n20, will you feel it alot (throw you in your seat) or just a little with a shot that size?

You'll feel it... but, don't expect the world from it...

yeah it's not what F&F makes it out to be lol but what drive said.. you'll feel it

ok, someday I'd like to have it, but not until my warrenty is over.

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skoolz not wat it usd 2 b... :rofl:

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screw it im just going to save up for a turbo stage o. it just seems likes it going to be a disaster thanks for the help tho !

just buy a wet system now.. start saving for the tubo kit (with a fmic) lower the compression 8.6:1 and run a 50 shot.. you'll love it

every one has differnt views which is very weird and kinda scary i think ill just save 2500 and get the zpi 0 kit and not have to worry..

:rofl: :rofl: yeah, just dont worry :rofl: :rofl:

I personally am more worried about turboing my car than using nos.

i'd be more likely to blow my car up from nitrous than turbo'ng it lol but i'm just trigger happy.. i save myself and take my bottle out when i'm not going to the track. i'm the type that will hit it in all five gears and still want more. So as for now until April... the bottle is out. maybe put it in if i go dyno this winter but then it'll be right back out

turbo is way safer than nos especually a stage o kit.

i'm going both. Have the turbo sitting in the garage along with the engine management, bov, wastegate and intercooler. need to get all the pipeing and the rest of hte electronics and i'm good to go. that will be the last thing to go in though.

how much hp can you get out of a tc with all this boosting? anywhere close to 400 or 500?

there's one with 426hp on a stock block so yeah... we're gonna be changing rods and pistons and doing some head work and sleeving the block. We'll find out exactly how much we can get. It'll just come down to a matter of money and when.

i just talked to two very respectable places here in mia and they had nothing but great things to say about wet kits ...... mayb i reconcider it

i just talked to two very respectable places here in mia and they had nothing but great things to say about wet kits ...... mayb i reconcider it

told you man

they showed me a fuel pump and an emange to add if i wanted to go up to 100 shot.



they said i could spray every day if i wanted to but for no longer than 7 sec and no more than 2 times aday if doing it that often.

they showed me a fuel pump and an emange to add if i wanted to go up to 100 shot.



they said i could spray every day if i wanted to but for no longer than 7 sec and no more than 2 times aday if doing it that often.

i have an e-manage but it's not in yet... this winter it'll go in when i put her down