View Full Version : Adventures in RS3 shopping(basically done)


Madzozs
09-07-2006, 06:16 PM
If everything works out to where I won't be losing a substantial sum of money(gas, insurance, payments) over the first year, I'll be trading in my '06 tC.

Now my question to you guys is, does anyone have any advice on what I should bring with me, or may need for the initial "money talks" meeting? I know I need my title to prove I own the car, but I feel like I might be forgetting something.

Any help will be appreciated.

TuningIsLife
09-07-2006, 06:58 PM
Wow a total of 5 of them left in the NY area.
Automatic RS3.0 : $17,680
Manual : $16,880

Thats all there is to it.

Madzozs
09-07-2006, 08:02 PM
Yeah I know the price for the vehicle, transmission isn't a big deal to me for this car so I'm going to take whichever I can get first. Should I maybe bring my original receipt from the dealer to show the add-ons that were installed at the time of purchase? I'm going to a different dealer for this car since my previous one shot themselves in the foot via phone convo:

Me: "Hi, I'm looking to trade in my tC for one of the Release Series 3.0 xB's that are left."

Salesman: "What's a release series?"

*I hang up*

ElChupacabra
09-07-2006, 08:09 PM
Good choice not dealing with them. I think I spoke to you via AIM the other day. Im obvioulsy the best salesperson in the world considering this kind of follow-up. HAHAHA....

...Anyway, just bring your registration. Bringing the receipts wont do you any good. From what you told me your payoff was you should be in a pretty good spot. Just be very firm with them right from the start and tell them exactly what you're trying to accomplish. Say, "This is what I need for my trade, This is the car Im looking for, and This is the time frame Im working with..." Once you've laid all that out everybody is on the same page. Good luck and I hope you get the RS3.0 you're looking for!

Madzozs
09-07-2006, 08:33 PM
Yeah that was me you spoke to the other day. The salesman was talking to the manager to get the dealer trade finished and I have to call him back in about an hour to double check things and set a proper time to meet. Once again, thanks for helping me out.

Hopefully in a few short weeks(maybe less), I can change my avatar on here and get some nice pics to show off.

ElChupacabra
09-07-2006, 08:59 PM
Awesome man! Sounds like you have things under control and are on your way to getting your RS!

L4rry_B1rd
09-07-2006, 09:12 PM
another tC owner bites the dust and joins the box side

Madzozs
09-07-2006, 09:25 PM
It's funny, if you asked me if I'd be even looking into a box when I got the tC I'd laugh at you. Irony rules man.

L4rry_B1rd
09-07-2006, 09:32 PM
It's funny, if you asked me if I'd be even looking into a box when I got the tC I'd laugh at you. Irony rules man.

same here man. but it grew on me so much that i had to have one. hope everything goes well.

Madzozs
09-08-2006, 02:19 AM
Welp got a call earlier on my lunch break from the dealer. He told me the manager was having a bit more trouble getting the car than they thought at first. One dealership they worked with said they had a pending sale and wouldn't know for sure until tomorrow, or if the guy called tomorrow and asked them to hold it again. They have another possible one from a different dealer that they will know for sure tomorrow as well. Then he said there are 2 places they couldn't get in touch with the managers for.

Hopefully one of the first 2 dealers will swap with them and hook it up tomorrow. I'm going for another test drive tomorrow just to hold me over. What I may end up doing if I can't get this RS is wait until the 4 comes out and rock out with my box out.

PIMPmyPride
09-08-2006, 03:52 AM
Yeah I know the price for the vehicle, transmission isn't a big deal to me for this car so I'm going to take whichever I can get first. Should I maybe bring my original receipt from the dealer to show the add-ons that were installed at the time of purchase? I'm going to a different dealer for this car since my previous one shot themselves in the foot via phone convo:

Me: "Hi, I'm looking to trade in my tC for one of the Release Series 3.0 xB's that are left."

Salesman: "What's a release series?"

*I hang up*

I had a similar experience happen to me too, THE Scion salesman didn't know what a Release Series was, I even had a picture of it and handed it to him. He had to go to the boss and look it up. He returns and says oh yeah, that's a limited edition! :doh:

So I go to Houston to get a RS3.0 from a dealership that has seen them before.

Just today I went to the same dealership to get the oil changed, the guy said what is this? a limited edition? I never seen one before.

chazm
09-08-2006, 05:36 AM
Why are you switching from a tc to a xb? I'm still torn but leaning towards the tc only because of the lack of power from the xb

Madzozs
09-08-2006, 02:25 PM
Well, it'll save me money in the long run. I'm going to be switching jobs in the next few months and that will help, especially since my current commute is 2.2 miles both ways. Plus, I have a niece that I watch often and the tC isn't the best for car seats and getting the kid out.

grizzly_choppers
09-08-2006, 03:13 PM
Yeah, coming by an RS3.0 at this point will be fairly difficult. We sold out of the two we received back in March (I actually bought one). Then I begged another off of a dealer who didn't really want it much. That was in April. No new ones left around here really.

You may be better off taking the Torched Penny in the end. Your wait will only be a month or two at this point if all my info is correct. The Envy is hot, but it may be just too late for a new one.

-Alex

Madzozs
09-08-2006, 07:52 PM
I was actually toying with that idea when the calls started coming up negative. Any news on the features of the RS4?

You mentioned a month or two for waiting, is that until its revealed officially? If so, how long fro then would a release be roughly?

Random311
09-08-2006, 07:59 PM
If you really want the RS 3.0 just go directly to one of the dealers that has the car on their lot. You'll end up having to pay 'transportation fees' if they send it to another dealer and they're not going to put it on a truck to send it either. I can't see paying for someone to rack up miles on my new car.

TheCrAzyLady
09-08-2006, 08:00 PM
I don't have any vadvise for you.... but MAN! Am I JEALOUS?!! I want a torched penny!!!

Madzozs
09-10-2006, 07:27 AM
Well I called one of the dealers myself and they have the car in the show room. It's a decent drive from where I live so commuting to and from would be a big pain. The salesman I worked with said the dealership owner "may have sold it to another dealer" and actually asked me if I could call in sick today and go down and start working the details out. He then told me to call him on Monday morning(i have monday's and tuesday's off) and see if it's still in the showroom. If so he could hold it for me for the day if I was going to go down and work it out.

Good news is I have a family friend that lives 20 minutes from the dealer, and my credit union I am financing through has a branch right near there as well. So basically, if the car is there Monday, I'm going to drive down and hopefully have all the paperwork taken care of so I can drive home sometime Tuesday.

Obviously the chances of this all working out are about the same as hitting the lotto...and I don't play the lotto.

OldYeller
09-10-2006, 07:31 AM
Too bad you couldn't set up a deposit on the phone. Good Luck and let us know how it turns out.

Madzozs
09-10-2006, 03:14 PM
Yeah I mentioned the minimum deposit over the phone and was all set to do it, but it really seemed like he didn't have it sold to a dealer. I'm willing to bet he was waiting for someone to come in over the weekend and buy it.

Oh well, hopefully it'll still be there tomorrow morning.

DarkLighter
09-10-2006, 07:35 PM
That would be a total score if it all works out. The box is nothing like the tC but an RS3 Box will turn more heads. Good luck man!

ModelAXb
09-10-2006, 10:20 PM
Be sure to give the dealer a list of mods you have on your tC before you get them to give you a price on it.

OldYeller
09-11-2006, 02:35 AM
Well--it is Sunday and no word. Either you got the RS3 and are very busy driving it, or you didn't and are very unhappy!!

Madzozs
09-11-2006, 05:20 AM
Sorry, just got out of work. Dealership was closed today except for appointments so I didn't call. According to their online inventory, it's still there. I'm about to go to bed but I set my alarm for 9:15 so I can call them before people start showing up and such. This way if it's there, I'll put a deposit down via phone and take a roadtrip.


One last question before I go though, is the OEM armrest worth getting or are there better aftermarket ones? I know I can get the OEM one from trdsparks for a good amount cheaper, but I have always had an armrest for my right arm in every car I've had. I need it like a crack fiend needs rock. I remember reading posts about the "boomerang" but I don't know what that was referring to. I'd prefer the armrest to have a compartment as well.

Alright bed time.

Nyquil ftw.

daramg
09-11-2006, 05:48 AM
Do you know what dealer "add-ons" RS3 has?

That was the problem i had when i was shopping for RS2... I could find RS2 in Aug/Sept timeframe of last year but the problem was that the dealers added rims, woofers, sunroofs and other accessories and charged $5000+ on top of MSRP....

Thus, i made a decision to wait 6 months and get RS3... can't be happier with that decision.

OldYeller
09-11-2006, 05:53 AM
See what they quote you for price. Here is one from a Toyota dealer that sells through Ebay. The prices are generally less than list and you are dealing with a Toyota dealer. I have ordered from them several times with great luck:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SCION-XB-XA-FACTORY-CENTER-CONSOLE-BB_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33695QQihZ014QQitemZ330026412413QQtcZphoto

I got my matching front strut bar from them. They have one for the Envy also:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-SCION-XB-RELEASE-SERIES-3-0-GREEN-TRD-STRUT-BAR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33591QQihZ019QQitemZ8054293743QQtcZphoto

Madzozs
09-11-2006, 03:58 PM
So the box is still on the showroom floor but they are looking to dick around on my trade-in value. Apparently they use the Galves system for trade-ins. Galves is basically for wholesale or auction price. I asked him if they were going to sell my car at an auction or on the lot, when he said lot and I asked why they use auction prices he didn't really have an answer. I love when people think you are dumb over the phone. So he's dealing with the sales manager now because they want to give me between 14500 and 15000 for my 06 tC with ~6600(after driving there) miles on it.

Random311
09-11-2006, 04:20 PM
Did you ask if the car was going to another dealer? I'm assuming that it isn't since it's still there in which case you're just going to have to stick to your guns.

Madzozs
09-11-2006, 04:22 PM
Basically, he was using the other dealer thing as a way to try and get me to drive down and buy it saturday. If he had sold it to another dealer already, it'd be off the floor and definitely off the market from them.

Madzozs
09-11-2006, 05:57 PM
Welp, deal is done.

After trying to work with them on the phone they are just going to sell the car to another dealer. The sales manager didn't seem to like me asking what dealer it was and where. I flat out told him that I'd be more than willing to make the road trip to buy from them but they were really hell bent on profit from my trade in, and me losing more money than I could stand to lose*cough*3k*cough*.

The salesman I dealt with did say he'd try and find out where the car was going and that he'd contact me if he found out.

On a lighter note, my nearly 10 month old niece said my name today so I'm not too upset about the car.

TANTALIZEDMIND
09-11-2006, 10:24 PM
another tC owner bites the dust and joins the box side

+1 more


I'm 70% likely to give in to "the URGE" and trade in my '06 FM tC for a Super White xB within a week. I'm getting it with a black spoiler, and later will get black rims, and new sound system. I really wasn't happy with the tC... and a lot of others have gone from a tC to an xB. And they have all said they don't regret it.

TANTALIZEDMIND
09-11-2006, 10:27 PM
To the author of this thread:

How much did you get for your tC? My dealership said they'll give me $15,500 but I'll bump them up to $16 if they want my sale.


What didn't you like about your tC?

Madzozs
09-11-2006, 11:01 PM
Well, I didn't get anything for my tC because the deal fell through. They were going by Galves listings which is a wholesale/auction price guide. Basically, they were looking to get more money from me, then make even more for the sale(smart business for them, but no business from me).

However, they were trying to give me no more than $15k. As I said before, 1 year old, 6600 miles, immaculate condition aside from dirt from the rain this past weekend.

It seems I'll be waiting around for the RS4 or a call from one of the 2 salesman trying to find me an RS3.

I can handle a few more months of the tC I suppose.

OldYeller
09-11-2006, 11:02 PM
Welp, deal is done.

After trying to work with them on the phone they are just going to sell the car to another dealer. The sales manager didn't seem to like me asking what dealer it was and where. I flat out told him that I'd be more than willing to make the road trip to buy from them but they were really hell bent on profit from my trade in, and me losing more money than I could stand to lose*cough*3k*cough*.

The salesman I dealt with did say he'd try and find out where the car was going and that he'd contact me if he found out.

On a lighter note, my nearly 10 month old niece said my name today so I'm not too upset about the car.

Well--the RS4 will be available soon--have you seen the pictures of it?

Madzozs
09-12-2006, 12:05 AM
I've seen the 2 pics in the thread on here. I definitely dig the color, my only one minor complaint is with the grill. I love the top part(the JDM one thats on newscionparts.com), but I don't like how in the 2nd pic it showed the bottom one looking bland. I think if the color of the lower grills were the same as the upper It'd look nicer.

Then again, there isn't an officially released version yet so there is still time to fall out of love with the envy green goodness.