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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 02:28 AM
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Just between these two intakes, what would you choose to run?

Weapon R SRI or K&N Typhoon CAI?


I know Injen is better, but I have both of these and am going to keep the better of the two. I've had the K&N on for 2 months and like it and am sure it'll help in colder weather, but the Weapon R helps with not having to worry about hydrolock. Can anyone atest to any gains from either of the two? I put the Weapon R on yesterday and like it, but there does seem to be a slight restriction as compared to the CAI.

Please let me know what you all think.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 02:34 AM
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general rule is, CAI will almost always gain more peak WHP. The problem ppl with the WR-SW intake is that it falls apart after a while...... and I'm not talking about the bracket. I would love to have a SRI as well but not many options unfortunately.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 02:40 AM
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So, should I change back to the CAI and just try selling the Weapon R? I'm just worried for the winter but I could always just put that plug back in the bumper. With the K&N, has anyone had a problem with the pipe rubbing against the fender slot it fits in? Also, there's a spot it rubs in the fender well against the splash gaurd. Might have to put some foam pads for protection or something.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 02:49 AM
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I like my K&N. Havent tried the Weapon R so I cant really compare the 2.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 02:51 AM
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I hate the fact that I spent another 200$, but I think I'm changing back to my CAI. It felt more responsive with it. The SRI seems to keep a little lag in the gas pedal. Just doesn't seem to jump or pull in the gears as much. Damn.

Anyone want a Weapon R SRI? I'll sell it for 175 plus shipping. I have the original box still too.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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For performance, yeah the CAI is better. If your area doesn't flood much you don't really have to worry about it. Plus the nylon baggie on the K&N should prevent any possible water splashing from getting into the intake. I did have rubbing on my piping but I just taped a small chunk of rubber on the spot and adjusted the gasket at the manifold a little and it rests fine now.
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OK, that's great all.

Thanks for the advice. CAI it is
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Just my .02. I have the weapon R and its great, it has a ram air adapter on the filter to bring in cold air, i ran it to my front bumper and through the grille insert. I haven't experienced the K&N CAI, but i love my wr-sw(they claim 8 whp). And i haven't experienced anything that seems like the things falling apart like curiousfish said but thats just me.

I guess im a little biased, but i hate K&N filters. I wouldn't use them in my car if they were free, i've heard too much about the oil in the filter getting into the map sensors and the throttle body, and a lot of independant dynos,(not done by K&N themselves) actually show a loss of 1-2 whp.

But either way, keep the one YOU prefer and the one YOU feel is better. And if you do keep the CAI, definately get the waterproofer bag thingy. It will save you a lot of grief!
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Yeah, it came with the filter wrap and I've had the Weapon R on for 2 days and it just feels sluggish on engagement. My CAI seemed to make the car a little more torqy in each gear whereas the Weapon R seems to give it much slower and gradual gains throughout only 2nd and 3rd gear. Top end it doesn't do much for pull at all. The CAI seemed to give me great response in 1-4th and still pull nicely in 5th.

Again, this is in my opinion, but I would stick to a cold air. I will plug the front bumper hole in the winter during snow and heavy rain, but when it's really cold, I'm sure it'll work extremely well. I had one in my truck and when it was around 20 degrees heading to Frederick, MD, it roared!
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I'll Experiment!! I'm gonna ghetto rig my weapon R intake as a cold air intake and run the filter to the front bumper hole with some aluminum piping, i'll let you know if it helps, its not supposed to rain here for a couple days so i'll try it.

This isn't an attempt to say mine is better than urs, i'm just testing a theory.

SRI with cold ram air Vs. CAI (Weapon R-Secret Weapon)

I'll let you know next week!
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Yeah, hey, it's cool......Let me know what happens
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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i have the weapon r set up right now.. i've had it for about 4-5 months now. it fell apart on me like 4 times already but i guess its my fault for not super tightening the clamps.

i'm still debating wether or not to get the cold-air-box for it. its mainly for show i suppose.
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Yeah, from what I've heard from others, it actually gets really hot and the air inside is much hotter due to that. I would stay away from that. It's an extra 100$ that aren't worth spending. Plus, I think it has some hood clearance issues. And yes, when I got the Weapon R, I made sure to super tighten the connector where the filter sites. I was lucky to hear of that before installing it.
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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weapon r one sucks, i hate them and i'll never buy from them... ever again
here's my problems with the intake
the MAF is mounted on vertical, looks nasty. They said it is their current model of the intake -_-, it's only a cosmetic issue, will perfectly run (it really looks stupid and uglee)
There Hole was on the filter (had it replaced)
Missing support bracket (They shipped it with the new filter)

didn't like the lady i spoke to while i tried to do my returns. She said i couldn't return it with out the original shiped box(mom threw it out cuz it came in beated up with a hole) The lady gave me Attitudes for her mistakes

overall... never will buy from weapon r again.
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Sorry to hear your luck with it falling apart, I guess i got lucky but it ____ed me off royally when i got my intake kit... They sent me a 2.5" to 2.5" rubber sleeve when i needed 3". So i spent 20 minutes cursing and stretching out the one they sent me so it fit. It as tight a 12 year old virg....well you get the picture!!! It actually takes some work to get the thing off but i guess i'm happy over all! Atleast it doesn't fall off.
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Eh, I've heard mixed reviews from this company. The intake came in a good box for me and came with all the parts. The silicone connectors were deformed but as soo as i warmed them a bit, the became maliable and normal shaped.
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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To WEB and raWr215!!

WEB, there definately is hood clearance issues with mine and it does get super hot. Mine gets too hot too touch and also burnt a hole in my hood lining,(very ____ed about that.)

And raWr215 I got lucky my maf sensor was on the back (invisible) and my mounting brackets did come with it but they didn't seem to fit ANYWHERE almost like they were the wrong brackets. I would be ____ed too if i was you.

Content with overall performance, i just wish it didn't get so hot, i actually burnt my arm on it (not bad or anything but it made me jump), it seems like it could work so much better. I wonder if the heat is from it being next to the engine or if its actually from the turbulance inside. Maybe i'll wrap it with some of the extra header wrap i have and see what happens.
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by web
Eh, I've heard mixed reviews from this company. The intake came in a good box for me and came with all the parts. The silicone connectors were deformed but as soo as i warmed them a bit, the became maliable and normal shaped.
Mine came in a good box too, even wrapped in plastic incase of rain i guess. But my connectors were definately the wrong size, i measured them.

And yeah cust service was good to me, I e-mailed them with some questions and they sent me some freebies and coupons!
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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The heat is definately ambient temperature. My K&N pipe has been pretty cold near the fender the past fiew days with the temp. drop, but nearing the throttle body it does get warmer. The side and back side of our engine is a little cramped and seems to retain a good bit of heat. In the winter time, though, the CAI will probobly give you a better experience b/c the really chilled down air will travel past that warm area and actually help cool the pipe's overall temp. It worked with my truck in the winter time. The pipe was actually getting frost on is b/c of how I had it routed. Worked wonders in the cold.
Old Sep 14, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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What's wrong with buying a Weapon-R Cold Air Box and slap it in with the Weapon-R SRI? It will be similar with the CAI, am I correct? I'm going to try it whenever I get the money.



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