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Black_MZ3
09-19-2006, 08:13 PM
why would you waste your money on the trd supercharger when

1. people have been getting shafted by trd
2. supercharged 4 cylinders are slow
3. you can get a turbo for same money and more power

gjpjr84
09-19-2006, 11:40 PM
why would you waste your money on the trd supercharger when

1. people have been getting shafted by trd
2. supercharged 4 cylinders are slow
3. you can get a turbo for same money and more power
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Black_MZ3
09-20-2006, 07:44 PM
why would you waste your money on the trd supercharger when

1. people have been getting shafted by trd
2. supercharged 4 cylinders are slow
3. you can get a turbo for same money and more power
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/gjpjr84/misc/dontgiveadamn.gif

that's cute but you still haven't answered my question. have you read the nightmares people have been having with the TuRD supercharger? talked to trevor lately?

gjpjr84
09-20-2006, 09:48 PM
Glad you like it guy who I'm not supposed to know..... :lalala:

And yes I am very well aware of the problems people are having with the TuRD supercharger. Still not stoping me anytime soon actually. Pulleys/headers/intakes/whatnot are not in my plans at all.
I am not looking for a 10sec timeslip, I drive an automatic Scion tC. :rofl:

If I was I'd have gotten my aunts 'teg or that one supra that I saw on sale before I got the tC.

My brother has the integra and a funky civic hatch now actually so I can go blow engines with him, and leave my car nice and drivable.

Black_MZ3
09-20-2006, 10:15 PM
Glad you like it guy who I'm not supposed to know..... :lalala:

And yes I am very well aware of the problems people are having with the TuRD supercharger. Still not stoping me anytime soon actually. Pulleys/headers/intakes/whatnot are not in my plans at all.
I am not looking for a 10sec timeslip, I drive an automatic Scion tC. :rofl:

If I was I'd have gotten my aunts 'teg or that one supra that I saw on sale before I got the tC.

My brother has the integra and a funky civic hatch now actually so I can go blow engines with him, and leave my car nice and drivable.

trevor's car is stock with the trd and exhaust and now it has a cracked housing. that with their reluctance in upholding their warranty kind of screams buyer beware.

just asking why you would get that when there are other options out there.

and just because you turbo your car doesn't mean you'll blow an engine. you can blow it with the trd just as easily.

HighlanderMac
09-20-2006, 11:29 PM
OK, this is just plain retarded... Go ahead and get the S/C... I am on my second S/C and am having problems with that.

TRD is constantly blaming the techs at the dealerships for the problems.
Well, I am just hoping things go right for you, but there is no reason for everyone getting on Black_MZ3s azz..
Seriously start trying to flame me because I really dont care...

gjpjr84
09-20-2006, 11:45 PM
am I?

Black_MZ3, I didn't mean that i would put a turbo on and immediatley grenade my motor :doh:

and trev i though it was just the bracket that broke, its the whole houseing now huh? if your stock then they should not be making you pay for anything, if TRD is blaming the dealership for bad install, then the dealership should be paying for it.

all the current problems are only with the manual S/C tCs for the time being. and the S/C fit kit for the auto has some interesting differences with how it installs on the car. (like the transmission mounts).
I am wel aware of the pros and cons and cons.

HighlanderMac
09-20-2006, 11:54 PM
It is just the bracket, it isnt the entire housing, but still, it shouldnt happen..
And also, it isnt the pulleys that are causing the problem at all, First they said it was the heat from the header, and now TRD is saying the reason the bracket broke is because the techs overtightened it. I have yet to be able to get out to the dealership, so lets hope they are gonna fix it for free, cause if not, I am gonna have a fit...

gjpjr84
09-20-2006, 11:59 PM
you shouldn't and thats crap if you do.

if you want i can point you to the TRD supercharger installation PDF and it says NOTHING about what order to tighten those bolts for the mount. so either TRD is gonna eat it and submit or the dealer will have to pay for it cause they are the ones who installed it.

and you know the auto fit kit comes with spacers for that bracket.... :ponder:
and they are also coming out with a different bracket but who knows how long that will be

gjpjr84
09-21-2006, 12:03 AM
oh and surprisingly enough people have been able to order that bracket by itself, the part number is around here somewhere...

and really if you can keep that broken bracket i would go to a shop and have them strenghten and fix it, and also look into why the auto gets spacers....

HighlanderMac
09-21-2006, 12:06 AM
But the point of the S/C is to be able to buy it from TRD, get it installed, and never have to worry about it. That is why it is offered by TRD.. There should not have to be any researching done by the owner, if you get what I mean.

Black_MZ3
09-21-2006, 12:14 AM
TRD = axis of evil.

overpriced, underpowerd parts.

true aftermarket is the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!

gjpjr84
09-21-2006, 12:14 AM
yea i know and understand,
but its happened and what else am i gonna do and share what i have found out?
the only other thing is to be an ___ and tell you to shut up and whatnot, and i have no reasson to be ____ed at you and do that.

i wish you much luck and really see no proof that they might have to make you pay for a new bracket.

gjpjr84
09-21-2006, 12:16 AM
TRD = axis of evil.

overpriced, underpowerd parts.

true aftermarket is the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!

really, seems that way from your point of view huh? :? :x

whatmovesu
09-21-2006, 12:54 AM
Dang lupe dudes all on your a$$ :shock:

gjpjr84
09-21-2006, 01:31 AM
don't worry about it. we're all good in here.

dfwaltima
09-21-2006, 02:39 AM
TRD = axis of evil.

overpriced, underpowerd parts.

true aftermarket is the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!

I wasnt aware that there was a false after market.. I guess Mopar, MazdaSpeed, Ford Racing, Ralli Art, etc is all false aftermarket, I guess if the parts aint jDm y0!! they aint real.

gjpjr84
09-21-2006, 03:09 AM
don't forget Nismo

eov32885
09-21-2006, 07:38 AM
lol, wtf is going on in here, dang!

HighlanderMac
09-21-2006, 01:37 PM
TRD = axis of evil.

overpriced, underpowerd parts.

true aftermarket is the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!

I wasnt aware that there was a false after market.. I guess Mopar, MazdaSpeed, Ford Racing, Ralli Art, etc is all false aftermarket, I guess if the parts aint jDm y0!! they aint real.

Well, just to be technical, they are subsidiaries of there mother company. i.e. TRD for Toyota, MazdaSpeed for Mazda, Mopar for Chrysler, and AMG for Dailmer Benz...
It is cosidered factory tuned performance.

Just letting you know. 8)

Capt_pooty
09-21-2006, 02:16 PM
so lets just do this .... instead of arguing about this.......

let lupe get what he wants expereince the pain and sffering that everyone else has..... and then go from there......

if no ones is wanting your help or knowledge on your experience and are just dead set on what they want then thats fine... not your problem......

but one thing LUPE after you buy the S/C you cant complain you have problems.....cause



we told yah so

dfwaltima
09-21-2006, 05:35 PM
TRD = axis of evil.

overpriced, underpowerd parts.

true aftermarket is the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!

I wasnt aware that there was a false after market.. I guess Mopar, MazdaSpeed, Ford Racing, Ralli Art, etc is all false aftermarket, I guess if the parts aint jDm y0!! they aint real.

Well, just to be technical, they are subsidiaries of there mother company. i.e. TRD for Toyota, MazdaSpeed for Mazda, Mopar for Chrysler, and AMG for Dailmer Benz...
It is cosidered factory tuned performance.

Just letting you know. 8)

Factory tuned using stock parts??

Black_MZ3
09-21-2006, 09:45 PM
The definition of aftermarket is:

Vehicle accessories that do are not fitted by the manufacturer.

TRD, Mazdaspeed, Mopar, Ford Racing, Nismo, etc, etc, blah, blah, yo mama, yo mama, yo mama.

They all make good parts that come with a premium. Overpriced and underpowered IMO. Now I'm not saying that it's like that across the board but for the most part, it's true.

I live by the facts and the fact IS that aftermarket companies, ones not owned and operated by the manufacturer, make better performing parts without the cost associated with their name. Again, this a generilization. I paid a hefty premium for my HKS exhaust. It was still cheaper than the mazdaspeed exhaust PLUS it performs better.

That's just my take on manufacture built "aftermarket" parts.

gjpjr84
09-21-2006, 11:21 PM
well there ya go.

and pooty if i have to i will complain but just to you okay. :wink:

but really, I know where trev is coming from and if we were the same and i was going to go at it from his starting point i would not get the s/c either. but we are 2 different people looking for two different things. and yes he has problems with the s.c from what he was trying to do.

i have not heard of anyone coming from how i am going about it having any problems as of yet. and with all due respect to trevor I do not (nor have the ability cause of the auto tranny) to drive like he does.
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and since i think this has about gone as far as it can go without being a redundant argument.