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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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Default I'm going to have to trade in the Short Bus in '08...

http://toyota.jp/bb/dop/sp/index.html

Me likey.

(There are three 'accessories' videos that you can watch...look for the three rectangle-shaped pics underneath the main player window. They seem to kinda go in order from left to right.)
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Wow gotta admit this kinda makes me think the new xb design wont be so bad.
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Havent you guys read elsewhere that they arent REDESIGNING the xB... They are stopping it and replacing it with something else, so you wont see this new bB as the new xB most likely... Because their is no more xB after this year is over.
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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We wont see that car ever. End of story. Move to Japan if you want it...
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 02:53 AM
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the rumor is the xb will return in 08, under a new design, the xA will go and likly be replaced by the xD, thsts what all the threads are saying that ive read.
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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It's all speculation! If that's close to what the '08 xB (or what ever they name it) will look like, I'll keep my box. However, I do like the rear view mirrors in the first video. they are coooooool!
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Originally Posted by rallying_the_scion
the rumor is the xb will return in 08, under a new design, the xA will go and likly be replaced by the xD, thsts what all the threads are saying that ive read.
I wish I could tell you what I know. It kills me to hear all this misinformation and bad speculation about the future of the Scion models...
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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I'll be keeping my box when that NEVER comes stateside.
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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still looks like a mazda
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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How hard would it really be to get one over here?

I've been stationed in Germany and Italy and peeps used to get cars and have them shipped back all the time. Now granted you might have to sink some money into the emmissions and getting it changed from kmh to mph...it's really not that much to have it U.S. ready.

It only cost about $1K to ship a car from the mainland to Hawaii...I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to ship one from Japan to the U.S.....and if you think of all the MODs a lot of people do to their cars...you could consider getting it to the US the one and only MOD...you'd be the only one with it!! now that would be the Ultimate Modification!!!


anyone know anyone stationed in Japan? I'll be going over for some TDY (temporary duty) and plan to look at the Japan bB versions and, if possible, buying some bB stuff while there
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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How much to imoprt a couple of those dancers from the TAS video?
They are Toyota original accessories afterall
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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man i cant wait to hear the ____ing and moaning when you all get to see the line. They are going to be insanely awsome!
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it costs roughly 25k to get a car through customs if you buy one not built for american roads, I know someone who has a 1990 skyline gtr, thats been in customs since 1992 because he doesn't have the 25k
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Originally Posted by jwaj2002
it costs roughly 25k to get a car through customs if you buy one not built for american roads, I know someone who has a 1990 skyline gtr, thats been in customs since 1992 because he doesn't have the 25k
$25,000??? no way... I knew guys that brought back bmws , brit minis, and mgs and the biggest issues they had to deal with was getting he exhaust redone..granted this was about 10 years ago but I can't believe that it has changed that much.....

looking here:

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/cl...utomobiles.xml

and here:

http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/...ortingacar.doc

I see that most of the cars that guys were shipping over were older so that might have helped in the fees....


very confusing....but I get this for the rate:

* 2.5% duty on the price of the car
* $400.00 duty exemption if your using it for personal use (ie not trying to sell it)
* After the exemption has been applied, a flat duty rate of 10% is applied toward the next $1,000 of the vehicle’s value. The remaining amount is dutiable at the regular duty rate (2.4%).

one very important item was this:

Vehicles that meet all U.S. emission requirements will bear manufacturer’s label on the engine compartment in English, attesting to that fact. For vehicles that lack such a label, the Customs inspector at the port of entry may require proof of eligibility to import under the EPA exemptions or exclusions specified on form 3520-1.

Vehicles that do not meet all U.S. emission requirements, unless eligible for exemption or exclusion must be imported through an independent commercial importer (ICI). EPA will not allow the vehicles’ release to the vehicle owner until ICI work is complete. The ICI will perform any EPA-required modifications and be responsible for assuring that all EPA requirements have been met. Some vehicles cannot be successfully imported or modified by an ICI, however, and in general, ICI fees are very high.



a rough guesstimate of +/- $6000.00 that would cover the the ICI work, the shipping, and the duty fees......

an excellent way around a lot of those fees would be if you knew someone in Japan (US military) that did not ship a car over with them and wanted to bring one back (Uncle Sam pays for one car to be shipped if your stationed overseas) and you would also avoid the customs fees as well....then all you'd have to pay would be the getting the car to US standards...
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they have to meet the us safety standards as well as emissions standards
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anyone know how strict Japan safety standards are?
Old Sep 24, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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the cars are safe over there because they don't drive 60+ mph every day like we do, I only travel 2 roads that the speed limit is under 60, and less then 4 miles combined on those 2 roads
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern
Originally Posted by jwaj2002
it costs roughly 25k to get a car through customs if you buy one not built for american roads, I know someone who has a 1990 skyline gtr, thats been in customs since 1992 because he doesn't have the 25k
$25,000??? no way... I knew guys that brought back bmws , brit minis, and mgs and the biggest issues they had to deal with was getting he exhaust redone..granted this was about 10 years ago but I can't believe that it has changed that much.....

looking here:

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/cl...utomobiles.xml

and here:

http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/...ortingacar.doc

I see that most of the cars that guys were shipping over were older so that might have helped in the fees....


very confusing....but I get this for the rate:

* 2.5% duty on the price of the car
* $400.00 duty exemption if your using it for personal use (ie not trying to sell it)
* After the exemption has been applied, a flat duty rate of 10% is applied toward the next $1,000 of the vehicle’s value. The remaining amount is dutiable at the regular duty rate (2.4%).

one very important item was this:

Vehicles that meet all U.S. emission requirements will bear manufacturer’s label on the engine compartment in English, attesting to that fact. For vehicles that lack such a label, the Customs inspector at the port of entry may require proof of eligibility to import under the EPA exemptions or exclusions specified on form 3520-1.

Vehicles that do not meet all U.S. emission requirements, unless eligible for exemption or exclusion must be imported through an independent commercial importer (ICI). EPA will not allow the vehicles’ release to the vehicle owner until ICI work is complete. The ICI will perform any EPA-required modifications and be responsible for assuring that all EPA requirements have been met. Some vehicles cannot be successfully imported or modified by an ICI, however, and in general, ICI fees are very high.



a rough guesstimate of +/- $6000.00 that would cover the the ICI work, the shipping, and the duty fees......

an excellent way around a lot of those fees would be if you knew someone in Japan (US military) that did not ship a car over with them and wanted to bring one back (Uncle Sam pays for one car to be shipped if your stationed overseas) and you would also avoid the customs fees as well....then all you'd have to pay would be the getting the car to US standards...
Dang, seems a lenghty process. Wonder if you can ship them to Guam. After all, we are a US Territoy. I see some Skylines on the road recently. You can probalby ship it to Guam, then ship it to the states.
Old Sep 25, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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Found this web site, take a look...

http://toyota.jp/bb/index.html
Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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the new style of the BB is pretty cool at first I didnt like it but the vids make me want to see one up close. I like it!



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