I bought the Helix taillights and was over all happy with them. The only problem was that the break light was not bright enough. I took care of the problem by buying Bat's Redout Overlay.
Here are the taillights that I bought
http://www.helixautomotive.com/images/scion/scionxb.jpg
Here is the idea I was going for, but they don't sell it in smoked
http://www.helixautomotive.com/images/sciontails-redclear.jpg
This is the overlay I bought from Bat
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/BlueBatmobile2005/Scion%20Overlays/xbt4.jpg
And here are pics of the over all product
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/greenguyshrek/IMG_0568.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/greenguyshrek/IMG_0573.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/greenguyshrek/IMG_0572.jpg
Here are daytime pics
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/greenguyshrek/IMG_0579.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/greenguyshrek/IMG_0577.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/greenguyshrek/IMG_0578.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/greenguyshrek/IMG_0581.jpg

Looks great Chris! Cant wait for the daytime pics!

Bat™

looks great

Looks great Chris! Cant wait for the daytime pics!

Bat™
Thanks Bat, and I just posted the daytime pics
looks great
Thanks for looking

WOW

Nice!! What kit do you have?

Nice!! What kit do you have?
Here is my other post with the detals
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=140853&highlight=

it all looks good, except for the little strip thats not covered with red on the inside of both lights, who wouldnt be able to notice that!
Love You!

dude that is mad sick. i am thinking about gettin a set myself and doing the same with my BSP. do u know if the red and clear ones have a dim issue? or is it just the smoked ones?

:bow: love the tails

daddy likes

Looks good now that there on. 8)

Dude that looks horrible! LOL! love messin with you Chris. Looks great bro. Josh hooked you up sick on the install of the overlay. :clap: props Joshmac. and Josh did it drunk status too. LOL! j/k Chris...... Rock it at West co bro. oh GET YOUR CAR CLEAR BRA'D cabron.

WOW


too bad you aint ridin in his ride no mo'. you get to ride in the green machine. LOL!!!! Whats up Peggy. Check your voicemail.

yeah right kirby! That last time is the ONLY TIME Im driving in the green machine! I say you and chris take a ride in that thing, its truly an experience of a life time! Whats happening with the rims from Chris TC, hear anything?

you know what, not yet. Ill call him for your tonight.

it all looks good, except for the little strip thats not covered with red on the inside of both lights, who wouldnt be able to notice that! Love You!
Thanks for pointing that out, were would I be without you.
dude that is mad sick. i am thinking about gettin a set myself and doing the same with my BSP. do u know if the red and clear ones have a dim issue? or is it just the smoked ones?
The red & clear shouldnt have any issues, the problem with the smoke was getting a bright enought red. You should be fine with the red & clear.
:bow: love the tails
thanks
daddy likes
Thanks pops
Looks good now that there on. 8)
Thaks Josh for all of you hard work
Dude that looks horrible! LOL! love messin with you Chris. Looks great bro. Josh hooked you up sick on the install of the overlay. :clap: props Joshmac. and Josh did it drunk status too. LOL! j/k Chris...... Rock it at West co bro. oh GET YOUR CAR CLEAR BRA'D cabron.
I know i need to get the clear bra I just dont have the money right now. But thanks for looking out Kirby

I don't understand how the overlay is suppose ti make it brighter? Maybe I missed something.

I don't understand how the overlay is suppose ti make it brighter? Maybe I missed something.
Without the overlay you have to use a Red bulb. and over time the bulb fades to pink. and If you use a bulb cover it falls off. so If you just have a reg bulb and overlay it makes it a bright Red

Oh, I see.

I have a friend who has these and we tried LED bulds, but he still got pulled over because you could barely see then brake lights, let alone the driving lights.

You would think LEDS would be much brighter than a regular 7440 bulb.

Oh, I see.

I have a friend who has these and we tried LED bulds, but he still got pulled over because you could barely see then brake lights, let alone the driving lights.

You would think LEDS would be much brighter than a regular 7440 bulb.
Yup that was another problem. LED's are not bright enough, I think someone said it was because of the taillight housing It wont reflect the LED enough.

LEDs are plenty bright, they just don't throw the light the same way a conventional bulb does. And because of the tail light design with the cover over the bulb you can't see most of the LEDs on a regular replacement bulb.

I've tried almost every option out there in the way of bulbs for the set of smoked Heilx tails I got for the wife's xB. I've tried buying red bulbs, LEDs, tinting my own bulbs, bulb condoms. Right now we are back to stocks. The overlay option is something I considered, but the wife wanted smoked, no red.

The only bulbs I haven't tried yet are these...

http://www.spiderlite.com/application-chart.html

Just in case anyone wants to give them a shot. I don't know if they will even fit in the housing because of the arm that holds the bulb cover. But if they would work, the LED arms would likely extend past the cover.

LEDs are plenty bright, they just don't throw the light the same way a conventional bulb does. And because of the tail light design with the cover over the bulb you can't see most of the LEDs on a regular replacement bulb.

I've tried almost every option out there in the way of bulbs for the set of smoked Heilx tails I got for the wife's xB. I've tried buying red bulbs, LEDs, tinting my own bulbs, bulb condoms. Right now we are back to stocks. The overlay option is something I considered, but the wife wanted smoked, no red.

The only bulbs I haven't tried yet are these...

http://www.spiderlite.com/application-chart.html

Just in case anyone wants to give them a shot. I don't know if they will even fit in the housing because of the arm that holds the bulb cover. But if they would work, the LED arms would likely extend past the cover.
Ive seen those bulbs to, but not sure if there going to work.

damn, $35 ea??? has anyone tried these yet? i might buy one to see if they make a difference, i have the same helix tails... i'm paranoid driving during the day, but i havent been pulled over about them...

I finally bought mine. I hope the overlays come in by saturday. Hey bat I send in my money.

Matt. Got your order today and will ship today as well! Cant wait for your pics!

Bat™

I finally bought mine. I hope the overlays come in by saturday. Hey bat I send in my money.
What did you get?

I bought the full red outs. I cant wait to put them on.

shipped!

Bat :wink:

The only bulbs I haven't tried yet are these...

http://www.spiderlite.com/application-chart.html


i just bought one to see if they are worth a flip... when i get it in, i'll put up some pics and let ya know if they work better than just regular LEDs in the back...

Cool Zereaux.

I don't know if they will clear the cover or not. If they do you'll probably have anywhere from 3 to 6 LEDs pointed directly to the lens. They should be pretty bright, but probably will not reflect off of the housing at all.

If you get them in, make sure to get day and night pics.

i have a question how does the overlays work is iit just a see threw vinyle sticker or a piece of plastic. and how does the smoe work on the headlights. it is just a sticker also. thanks for the help and sorry for asking questions in your thread. thanks

i have a question how does the overlays work is iit just a see threw vinyle sticker or a piece of plastic. and how does the smoe work on the headlights. it is just a sticker also. thanks for the help and sorry for asking questions in your thread. thanks
That would be a good question for Bat

All my Overlays are made from a 7 Year Premium Vinyl :). I offer different finishes. 6/10 smoke is my darkest, I also have a lighter 3/10 tint, yellow and ice blue :). Email me if you're interested :wink:

Bat™

we need a red version of this:
http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/82000111/Images/1/LED7443LG.jpg

or you can use those if you are sporting the bat red overlays :)

found 'em... ordering some to see if they are worth a poop... guinea pig i is :)



http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm

nice :).

Bat™

back from the dead... all the suggestions i made suck... dont waste your money on em... one headache to another... looks like i'm getting the overlay for it :)

back from the dead... all the suggestions i made suck... dont waste your money on em... one headache to another... looks like i'm getting the overlay for it :)
I could have told you that the red led's would'nt work. Thats why I went and got Bats Red overlay.
And when you get the overlay post some pics

i just didnt want any red on my xb... but overlays are alot cheaper than buying new tails all together...

email me :wink:

Bat™