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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Sup all you Drifters and Racers? FRL's beginning and we are getting ready for some racer's. FRL (Foreign Red Liners) is the car club to be with. We race, we show, and we have fun. We are good. Website in the prosses of making, holla at ya'll.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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I doubt you will find too many drifters on here You dont drift a FWD
Old Oct 27, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
I doubt you will find too many drifters on here You dont drift a FWD
This dork actually thinks he can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yj5E6xu2yk
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Yeah... I bet the tire companies love those guys who flatspot the crap outta thier tires and call it drifting Personally, I think "drifting" is fun if I am talking about running sideways at 80 mph on dirt roads like I did my whole life... when it is used as a way to control the car in high momentum entry to a turn.... but the "Sport" I find a bit stupid. fun to do maybe.. but not much that I see a sport. But in any case.. in a FWD it is just ebrake/@$$ dragging.
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I doubt you will find too many drifters on here You dont drift a FWD
This dork actually thinks he can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yj5E6xu2yk
To be fair, that controlled plowing (oversteer) he did is effectively 'drifting' for a fwd car. Can't compete against rwd cars doing that, but it is a lot of fun and the tC is easy to toss around that way. I've done the same thing many times, no e-brake required, and I even have the stock swaybars.
Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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I doubt you will find too many drifters on here You dont drift a FWD
This dork actually thinks he can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yj5E6xu2yk
To be fair, that controlled plowing (oversteer) he did is effectively 'drifting' for a fwd car. Can't compete against rwd cars doing that, but it is a lot of fun and the tC is easy to toss around that way. I've done the same thing many times, no e-brake required, and I even have the stock swaybars.
You canNOT drift a FWD car. If you watch the video again, you can see that the rear wheels are LOCKED during the whole turn. You canNOT swing the as$ out of a FWD car withOUT locking the rear wheels.
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You canNOT swing the as$ out of a FWD car withOUT locking the rear wheels.
WTF? That's false! Come down to SD and I'll show you! Yes, seriously. I'm not saying it's a 'drift', but yes, the rear can come around without using the e-brake.
Old Oct 27, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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You canNOT swing the as$ out of a FWD car withOUT locking the rear wheels.
WTF? That's false! Come down to SD and I'll show you! Yes, seriously. I'm not saying it's a 'drift', but yes, the rear can come around without using the e-brake.
But did you see the video?

Did you see that the rear wheel locked?

I think it's impossible to swing the as$ out of a FWD car on a dry pavement without pulling on the eb. However, if you have proof, a video, then by all means show it.
Old Oct 28, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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It's actually a technique used in FWD racing and rally. Ever heard of lift throttle oversteer? That's a car transferring all its weight onto its front wheels letting the rear kick out.

If you really wanna try it, hit a turn really hard and fast, in whatever gear you're in, redline it, turn hard, and let off the gas. Generally, it's something noobie drivers discover when they exceed their driving abilities.

Otherwise, it's an auto crosser manipulating his car to compensate for fwhp's tendency to plow.
Old Oct 28, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Well I'll have to find a safe lot to try that. But you still can't deny that the dork on the video locked his rear wheels.

Seeing is believing.
Old Oct 28, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Lift throttle over-steer and weight transfer can get a FWD car sideways. A talented, experienced driver could maintain sideways motion for a little bit, but not like what is possible with RWD. As far as E-brake slides go, a couple plastic trays from McDonalds help eliminate the threat of flat spots.
Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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Any one know were I can get some performance parts out side for the cold air and exhaust that are allover the place
Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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I can proudly say I am pretty good at drifting a FWD car. That and doing 65mph 360's.

*nods* =D
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Drifting in a race is a method of pushing the car into the apex of a turn by alowing the rear end to ease out so that the pulling wheels are facing into the turn. This is not useable on a FWD since the pulling wheels are on the front of the car. Throttle lift oversteer is called a mistake. It drastically slows you down in a turn (more so than a real drift).

As far as the "sport" of drifting, a fwd is still a waste of time. Even without locking the ebrake, you are still flat spotting your rear tires since they are not spinning. Either way, you are not "drifting" you are simply sliding a little here and then.
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Originally Posted by engifineer
Drifting in a race is a method of pushing the car into the apex of a turn by alowing the rear end to ease out so that the pulling wheels are facing into the turn. This is not useable on a FWD since the pulling wheels are on the front of the car. Throttle lift oversteer is called a mistake. It drastically slows you down in a turn (more so than a real drift).

As far as the "sport" of drifting, a fwd is still a waste of time. Even without locking the ebrake, you are still flat spotting your rear tires since they are not spinning. Either way, you are not "drifting" you are simply sliding a little here and then.
All that blabering is true... But it's fun when you have a car to mess around in.
Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Pssh... you can drift in a fwd car... just slap that B*tch in reverse and kick in the NOS
Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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hmm... is this about racers or ricers?
Old Oct 28, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shareindie
Pssh... you can drift in a fwd car... just slap that B*tch in reverse and kick in the NOS

hmm... is this about racers or ricers?
Rofl, ricers.
Sorry, just reminded me of the one I saw earlier... Who had the nerve to rev his engine on my buddies SRT-4... We blew the F$%@ing doors off that thing and then some. Sounded like his car was about to fall apart.

Oh... And the fact that he had a Sylvia badge on a Civic with a dis colored body kit that was barely hanging on and a wing bigger than a commercial jetliners.

He got dusted and flipped off. It was a total win on our behalf.
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Originally Posted by ehj
Originally Posted by nodsetse
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You canNOT swing the as$ out of a FWD car withOUT locking the rear wheels.
WTF? That's false! Come down to SD and I'll show you! Yes, seriously. I'm not saying it's a 'drift', but yes, the rear can come around without using the e-brake.
But did you see the video?

Did you see that the rear wheel locked?

I think it's impossible to swing the as$ out of a FWD car on a dry pavement without pulling on the eb. However, if you have proof, a video, then by all means show it.
Yes, I saw the video and yes his rears are locked, but I stated in my initial post that this wasn't what was in contention.

You indicated that the rear wheels of a fwd car can't "drift" (implying a lateral slide), unless they're locked. I say that's false.

Why? Let's look at a scenario many people can relate to. You're driving up a mountain road at around 60mph and there's a curve coming up. As you enter the curve you stay on the gas, and all 4 tires slide to the outside of the lane you're in. This is known as a "four wheel drift". Now I contend that when the car drifts this way, the rear tires are still spinning, while also sliding that couple feet sideways/laterally.

Is this difficult for some to believe? Have they never done a four wheel drift? When they do such a drift, do they really believe the rear tires aren't rotating? All rhetorical questions, as I already know the rears of fwd cars can rotate and slide concurrently, they aren't mutually exclusive motions as you indicated. I hope most people can understand all this without a video (otherwise I'd have to question their comprehension), especially since I don't have one.
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