Just curious if theres any other FF fans in here. FF12's got me horrificly hooked right now, haha. I was nervous at first because for starts, THERE's NO MORE TURN-BASED BATTLES!! Everythings fought out in real-time. They took their combat system from FF11 and threw it in here. The fights and leveling are much much more complex. Gambits, licensing, etc. You have to aquire the rights to be able to use weapons/abilities/magick/etc., THEN you have to purchases them from merchants. Anywho, chime in here if you're playing.

im hooked. at level 13 looking for some dead kings treasure

i just bought it.. but i havent played yet... is it really good?

i kinda like the turn based battle.. any feed backs on the new battle system.

I wish they kept the turn based, I loved FF7's battle and materia system. Regardless I know im gonna buy the game but not right now HC is tonight !

I got it. I like it but it gets annoying at times when your searching for something and you dont wantr to fight. The fleeing doesnt really work good. Im in the gaza plains right now loking for the sunstone.

I played it a bit at a friend's house the other day. Didn't get a very good idea of it but it seemd fun. FF7 was AWESOME.

im hooked. at level 13 looking for some dead kings treasure
Whoa! We're at the same exact spot. Well, i'm still trying to cross the SandSea's. Been kinda lingering around just fighting and leveling up. Keeping eveyone at the same level. Right now i have everyone at level 16. Vossler is at 17 but being he's a Guest he dosen't level, but Vossler kicks @ss! I've gotten everyone up to 2 mist charges too (Quickenings). It fun just to level up and get license points just to explore the board.

i just bought it.. but i havent played yet... is it really good?

i kinda like the turn based battle.. any feed backs on the new battle system.
To me the turn based battles are still #1 in my opinion. Everything was more organized and the battles were epic! I loved the larger than life battles, for example fighting the Weapons in FF7. So far i haven't ran into anything larger than some mimic queen in the lowtown sewers in FF12 that seemed larger than life. The battle system in FF12 to a novice player seems kinda messy. Once you get some experience and get some useful Gambits, its all fun. Gambits are commands that you can preprogram into your other characters such as "Ally: HP <40% ----- Cura". So in this case, if any of your allies drop below 40% of their HP this character will automaticly cast cura. There TONS of gamits and TONS OF TONS of combinations you use. Everythings prioritized so i'd suggest placing heal gambits higher than attack Gambits. With some tinkering you can program all allies to fight own their own. I like to keep the Group Leader's Gambits OFF and just control that person during battle to keep a feeling of control. All in all, the new battle system is FUN! The quicking attacks (FF12 limit breaks), aka "Mist charges" are pure eye candy. I haven't seen any of the Espers (FF12 summons), but from looking through my Strategy guide, there's some pretty SWEET summons in this one!! Ulitma is a summon in this game!! Remember Ulitma from FF7?. No, i don't mean Ulitma Weapon, i mean the spell "Ultima", well anywho, she....., yes, i said SHE, is a summon in this game. Oh and there's no Bahamat in this game!! WTF!? Of course there's a CID. Well, 2 of them actually, haha.

I got it. I like it but it gets annoying at times when your searching for something and you dont wantr to fight. The fleeing doesnt really work good. Im in the gaza plains right now loking for the sunstone.
Your still very very early in the game, you should be fighting, don't avoid it, you'll regret it later. Those license points will come in handy. Oh and stay away from the "WereWolves" in that area where you're at when you have to make the sunstone yourself cuz they're pretty strong. One attack and your history. The wolves are simple to kill, but you'll know what i mean when you see the werewolves. They walk on 2 legs, about twice as tall as your characters, and the ground booms when they walk around. Just yeah, avoid them.

Vossler kicks @ss!
Just wanted to add, Vossler kicked some major ___ onboard the Levithan dressed as an Archadian Guard. The way he holds his sword outward and over his head is just straight up mean!

Gah, I want FFXII REAL bad, but I really liked the turn-based stuff ... FFVIII was my fave though that's for sure. I love me some squall and rinoa action haha.

/\/\ I'll top that with some Titus and Yuna action!! Or better yet, Wakka and Lulu action!!! :rofl:


(FFX)

Or wait! Best of all, Cloud+Tifa+Aeris+Yuffie action!


(FF7)

Oh if anyone with the game hasn't seen the Brandy Games Strategy Guide, i strongly suggest looking into getting one! Don't really need it for "Help" but it does provide you with all the secrets in the game. Here's a juicy morsal:


To get the MOST POWERFUL WEAPON in the game you have to avoid 4 treasure chests!!


Here are the locations:

-The chest right outside of Old Dalan's house in Lowtown/Rabanastre
-The 2 chests in the southwestern most part of the cellars in the Rabanastrim castle (When Vaan breaks in and steals the magicite, where he runs into Baltheir and Fran.....ohhh.....Fran....:love:......oops, sorry)
-And the last one i have yet to come across because i obviously haven't gotten to the last one yet.

BYeRhOnE, being that you're shortly ahead of me, if you've touched any of those chests, which if you didn't know of this then you probably have because who can't resist a treasure chest. But yeah, if you touch any of these chests, the Zodiac Spear disappears from the game forever and ever......

^^That is sad days. Kinda like trying to get doom train and you can't use any freaking steel pipes and then you have to make potion+s egh. FF creaters are tricksters, geez. how would anyone think of NOT opening a chest? whatever. So guess who's buying FF12 in like a week when they get paid!? I know I won't be disappointed!

/\/\ You're going to LOVE it! I advise, DO, PLZ DO buy the strategy guide. Nothing like missing something important you didn't know about and not being able to go back and get it. And if you get the strategy guide flip ahead a few pages when you get into a new area and always keep any eye out for blue boxes that say, "Don't Touch That Treasure Chest Part 1, 2, 3, & 4"

^^Thanks, will do and I am waaaaay excited!

:eyes: Just got done playing for 4 hours straight!! Did alot of backtracking and leveling. It pays to level up once in a while. I took down the Aivon at the entrance of the kings ruin with one attack dealing 23,000 damage! (7 string quickening combo with "Cataclysm" finisher) Took down the first Demon Wall (the optional one you can either fight or Flee from before having to fight the other Demon Wall that the story makes you fight. However the optional one is twice the level of your characters. So if you're level 20, its 40. Took it down with 2 attacks :P. Quickening rocks. :bow:


Beware of the Entities that roam the northern most platforms in the SandSea. They're Lv. 50+ with 50-60,000hp. They cast Silenga (Level 3 Silence) to everyone as soon as it spots you an then follows up quickly with Firga (Level 3 Fire) dealing 2,000+ damage to EVERYONE! And in this area so soon in the game if you've done leveling most your characters only have 600-700hp MAX.

The more and more i play FF12, the more and more i'm starting to love the new fighting system! For the first 10 hours or so you haven't unlocked much to be used in the fighting system but once you starts unlocking some truely amazing abilities, it gets VERY complex! Not in a bad way either! I still favor turn-based, but we might not be seeing any of that for a while, if ever again after seeing a few videos of FF13 on the PS3, it uses the same type of real-time combat


Jovan, i will warn you, the story starts off WEAK at the beginning. Trust me though, it picks up Tremendously. This story is by far the most complex Final Fantasy story, and yes, i've played them ALL (excluding FF11 because any FF fanboy will agree "that one dosen't count" :P). This again is where the strategy guide is a very very smart purchase because it will hold your hand and let you know exactly what is going on. Otherwise you may be left wondering WTF!? at times.

!!! It's the most complex? Daaaang. I have played all except FF11. And I thought the plots couldn't get anymore intense but well ... those kids at S E do some pretty amazing things! I have been reading a lot about it and YOU keep making me even MORE anxious (you stop that, lol!) aaaaHHHH!!!!!

those kids at S E do some pretty amazing things!
Yeah, they can do it all except make movies :rofl: :rofl:


(Well, FF7:AV was okay)

i just bought it.. but i havent played yet... is it really good?

i kinda like the turn based battle.. any feed backs on the new battle system.
To me the turn based battles are still #1 in my opinion. Everything was more organized and the battles were epic! I loved the larger than life battles, for example fighting the Weapons in FF7. So far i haven't ran into anything larger than some mimic queen in the lowtown sewers in FF12 that seemed larger than life. The battle system in FF12 to a novice player seems kinda messy. Once you get some experience and get some useful Gambits, its all fun. Gambits are commands that you can preprogram into your other characters such as "Ally: HP <40% ----- Cura". So in this case, if any of your allies drop below 40% of their HP this character will automaticly cast cura. There TONS of gamits and TONS OF TONS of combinations you use. Everythings prioritized so i'd suggest placing heal gambits higher than attack Gambits. With some tinkering you can program all allies to fight own their own. I like to keep the Group Leader's Gambits OFF and just control that person during battle to keep a feeling of control. All in all, the new battle system is FUN! The quicking attacks (FF12 limit breaks), aka "Mist charges" are pure eye candy. I haven't seen any of the Espers (FF12 summons), but from looking through my Strategy guide, there's some pretty SWEET summons in this one!! Ulitma is a summon in this game!! Remember Ulitma from FF7?. No, i don't mean Ulitma Weapon, i mean the spell "Ultima", well anywho, she....., yes, i said SHE, is a summon in this game. Oh and there's no Bahamat in this game!! WTF!? Of course there's a CID. Well, 2 of them actually, haha.

no bahamut? awww.. he was my favorite of all the GF's.. o well.. ultima is also good but bahamut is cooler IMO. i was wondering about switching that turn based thing and i also think it is still the best battle system coz sometimes i take a long time to figure out what to do next. especially the hard bosses.. hmm it'll take some time getting used to the new battle system. and the gambits.. oh i still have havent started playing the game coz i'm still finishing xenosaga 3

i was wondering about switching that turn based thing and i also think it is still the best battle system coz sometimes i take a long time to figure out what to do next. especially the hard bosses..
Anytime during a fight you can press X to bring up the battle menu (Looks just like all the other battle menu's from FF games) and it FREEZES the action. Sorta like on Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. So you can take as much time as you please to gather up a strategic attack. Pre-emptive attacks are EASY to pull off on this game. See an enemy and Press X and have everyone attack that enemy, and as soon as you run up on it, WAM! Everyone wails off on it even before it starts targeting any allies. (Have to issue an attack command to all allies in order to pull off a pre-emptive battle because Gambits only start targeting enemies when you're right up on them.)

Bought mine last friday and only got to play a bit, but as soon as i'm done wit the test on monday, i'm gonna put in some more hours. For now, i'm still in the beginning and forgot wat im suppose to do. As far as the battle system goes..its a lil akward at first since i didnt really like FFXI's fighting that much anywayz, and i got so used to the old ways of final fantasy, but its growing on me. The graphics are beautiful and everything else has been pretty nice. :clap:

cant wait to start playing :nails:

Bought mine last friday and only got to play a bit, but as soon as i'm done wit the test on monday, i'm gonna put in some more hours. For now, i'm still in the beginning and forgot wat im suppose to do. As far as the battle system goes..its a lil akward at first since i didnt really like FFXI's fighting that much anywayz, and i got so used to the old ways of final fantasy, but its growing on me. The graphics are beautiful and everything else has been pretty nice. :clap:
Don't get discouraged at the beginning, the story is dull and dry at the beginning, and so is the opening CG part. :doh: Last night i laid down some serious play time and only at around 20 hrs and already half way through the walkthrough section of the strategy guide!? Just picked up the first Esper. Beligas (sp?) Pretty cool. The summons in this game act like the summon Aeons from FFX. Summon a monster and they fight with you, only this time you can't control their actions. The game needs to be tougher, seriously. I've fought 4 bosses so far and took them all down with 1 attack. :( Stringing along quickening mist attacks with "Black Hole". Deals 60,000+ damage :bow:

black hole? havent seen that yet. the longest quicken chain i was able to pull off was 8 hits.

now im at some shrine trying to get something else for the princess

/\/\ Concordences (sp?) is what the final attacks are refered to in the strategy guide. To get black hole you have to land a 4 hit string of either Level 2 mist or Level 3. You don't have to pull off 8, 9, or 10 strings to deal major damage. The string thing is a chance to achieve a desired concordence. I'll post up in the morning what the concordences are and how to get them, but black hole is the strongest one and you get that by stringing 4 level 2 or 4 level 3 mist quickenings. Now when you start stringing them along, when you activate another person they may use their level 1 attack, so you kinda have to be aware of what level mist attacks you have available and also have lady luck on your side. But you can actually deal more damage wtih a 4 string black hole than a 10 hit string with torrent or cataclysm.

I'll post these up when i get home (at work now)


:bow: Strategy guides are a life saver!

I found a glitch in the game and my guy is at max life its all 9's. I didnt use any codes it took me a couple of hours too......... :P

plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz share :D

Well, its really easy all you need to do is use the black magic of fire on an enemy and it dies on one hit. Since the enemy is on such a high level everytime you kill it you get level ups. I will post pics of a screen shot of my 999999 HP........ :P

Ive gotten further now. The game is def. picking up. Im starting to like it now. Im level 12 got about 7 hours into it. Im just doing some hunts now. i want to see that screen shot of your max 9's

Okay, here's the "Concurrence" chart in the strategy guide:


Name / power / strings needed

Black Hole / 253 / (12 string consisting of 4 Lv. 1, 4 Lv. 2, and 4 Lv. 3)
Whiteout / 215 / (9 string consisiting of 3 Lv 1, 3 Lv 2, and 3 Lv 3)
Ark Blast / 205 / (6 string consisting of 2 Lv. 1, 2 Lv. 2, and 2 Lv. 3)
Luminescence / 175 / (5 string consisting of 5 Lv. 3 attacks)
Windburst / 155 / (5 string consisting of 5 Lv. 2 attacks)
Torrent / 130 / (5 String consisting of 3 Lv. 2 attacks and 2 Lv. 1 attacks)
Cataclysm / 110 / (7 string consisting of 7 Lv. 1 attacks)
Inferno / 90 / (3 string consiting of 3 Lv. 1 attacks)

Def been slacking the past 3 days. Hadn't gotten a single minute in play wise. Been so slammed when i get home from work i just sleep all day instead. Gonna try to get some time in today hopefully. Right now i'm trying to cross the Giza Plains (where you made the sunstone earlier in the game, now only this time the "Rains" have come which the villagers spoke of earlier and some strong monsters roam the plains), then from there have to pass the Ozoone plains. Haven't gotten past the Giza plains yet only because went back and caught up on Marks (Hunts posted up in pubs), and Montblanc's Elite hunts (Clan hall in northern Rabanatre).

Yeah i havent played in awhile either been real busy with work and im moving. I think i left off just coming out of the caves in that city in the sky

burjerba

damn you guys I really am considering buying a PS2 just to play this game, I played final fantasy VIII a long time ago and loved it and XII for some reason reminded me of it. Now my urges are just building, especially since ps2's will go down in price since the release of the ps3

I am excited. I just read the review for this game yesterday and I have to get it. I was going to buy a PSII just for Guitar Hero, but I think FFXII is going to be my first game. I was so excited, I got out my PS last night and played some IX. (I still haven't completely beaten that game.) Hopefully, I can find a cheap, used PS II so I can play this weekend.

Finally got to put some more hours into it tonight. They really made it difficult to level up. I remember having a lvl 80+ squall in FFVIII by the end of the first disc.. :rofl: , but i suppose this was intentional, to make the game more interesting. Either way, continuing on this weekend, :love:

anyone remember chrono trigger for the SNES????.....that till this day is the best RPG ive ever played....i remember having dreams about it when i was like 11 or 12.......after that i must say FF7 was the second best......thats the one with "cloud" rite????....the one that there are two secret extra bosses at the bottom of the ocean or something like that???......well those two are the best rpgs ive ever played.....FF tactics is kinda fun too

I dediced to just go out and buy a new PS2 from Best Buy so I could get FFXII. I played for about 10 hours this weekend. It gave me a good taste of the game and I love it. The licensing is really complex and somewhat aggrivating in the beginning, but I really like how it works now. I can't wait to get off work so I can go home and play some more before the fiance gets off work. When she gets home, I have to switch to the guitar controller so she can play Guitar Hero II.

anyone remember chrono trigger for the SNES????.....that till this day is the best RPG ive ever played....i remember having dreams about it when i was like 11 or 12.......after that i must say FF7 was the second best......thats the one with "cloud" rite????....the one that there are two secret extra bosses at the bottom of the ocean or something like that???......well those two are the best rpgs ive ever played.....FF tactics is kinda fun too

Chrono Trigger---> :bow: Lavos :gun:

FF7--Cloud, yes. Side-quest battles: Ruby Weapon in the desert around the Golden Saucer, and Emerald Weapon underwater near that sucken ship.

yup thats the one......but ohh man i miss chrono trigger....didnt squaresoft come out with a sequel for the ps2???......im telling you i used to have dreams about that game and about what secrets i hadnt unveiled.......it seems like i could never finish it....it was really depressing once i figured everything out......i was told that u can actually play with the purple hair guy when he was a kid....i forgot his name

/\/\ Square came out with Final Fantasy Chronicles about two or so years ago which had 2 games in it. Final Fantasy IV and Chrono Trigger. Both the games were 100% in tact with only the addition of CG cinema scenes in FFIV and cartoon cut scenes in CT (cartoon portions of the game were brought to us by the good people behind DragonBallZ.


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Oh oh, you may be thinking of Chrono Cross which was on the PS1. Was sorta a semi-seqel but no one really thought of it as so.

/\/\ Square came out with Final Fantasy Chronicles about two or so years ago which had 2 games in it. Final Fantasy IV and Chrono Trigger. Both the games were 100% in tact with only the addition of CG cinema scenes in FFIV and cartoon cut scenes in CT (cartoon portions of the game were brought to us by the good people behind DragonBallZ.


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well we need to send out a letter to squaresoft so that they can remake chrono trigger for the ps3.....but they better keep the gameplay since i think was the best part of the game......to me chrono trigger was the most free-roaming game ever up until the days of gta3........i totally love those two games

Chrono Trigger Was Awesome. One of my favorite RPG's EVER. As For FF12 Im Hooked On It As Well. Been 15 Hours Into It So Far. Got Everyone In My Party. Its Going To Get Wild Now.

How you guys coming along on 12? I've been more than a little distracted with my turbo kit :P

I've been playing Guitar Hero II during the week and FF on the weekends. Works out better that way because the fiance works on the weekends. It gives me time to actually sit down and grind for a few hours.

Got to put a few more hours down these few days, hehe, almost forgot how good this game was since i havent played it since b4 finals.