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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 02:59 AM
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Default what would happen if you drove your car with no oil in it?

My friend took his car to Minake to get the oil changed and they either didn't put the drain plug in or didn't tighten it . And it fell out.
So he drove it a wile and then notice a plile of oil in the drive way, so he took it back to Minake to have them check and fill it . When they were done an hour later he went to pick it up and it started but when he went to move it the engine just stopped. And when he tried to start it the starter just clicked. So what do you think could have happened?
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:02 AM
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engines dead
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:09 AM
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well don't you think that they should pay for the new motor?
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:09 AM
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that SUCKS! likely warped the block, and the cylinders no longer have a perfectly straight path to travel, thus seizing the engine. probably burned up the piston rings, seals and gaskets, too.

I hope they are buying him a new car, but i doubt it, huh?

kind of thing happens all the time. the only three times anyone other than myself did anything mechanical on my car was my three free oil changes, and i sat there watching the whole time. I always check the plug, cap, and filter for 30 min before leaving after an oil change - i think those guys prolly only make minimum wage, and it was a choice between that and burger king. I don't trust that at ALL.
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well don't you think that they should pay for the new motor?
prolly have to get a lawyer
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:12 AM
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That is what i was thinking but I was hoping for his sake that it might be something else.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:22 AM
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I always do everything on my box . For just this reason!
Unfortunatly my friend dosn't know anything about cars and is asking me to go with him to this place to find out what if anything can be done.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:23 AM
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So i want to go there with plenty of information as amnumition
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:31 AM
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i think the key would be to prove negligence, which will be tough considering he left the premises.

not impossible, but tough.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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... likely warped the block ...
That happens from severe overheating, which would be very noticeable - radiator boiling over, steam, etc - which you or he did not mention. He should have noticed a red oil pressure light as soon as engine lost enough oil to starve the oil pump. If he had stopped then, the engine would be OK. Engines can run for awhile without oil, depending on what kind of oil was used. So I guess he was ignored the red light and drove back to the Meineke shop. In doing this, he seems to bear some responsibility for ruining his engine.
More likely there is just scoring and galling of pistons and cylinder walls. Since the engine started again, it is not seized completely. But there is enough damage and friction now to prevent it from running more than a few seconds. If it's an old car, the engine may be repairable with a rebore and next size pistons, and new bearings should be put in due to the metal particles circulating from the partial seizure.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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Exactly why I do my own maintenance.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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contact a lawyer.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Look on the bright side. Used Scion motors are cheap.. Maybe a good reason to swap for a TC motor...
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Originally Posted by vintage42
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... likely warped the block ...
That happens from severe overheating, which would be very noticeable - radiator boiling over, steam, etc - which you or he did not mention...
Also, such overheating does not warp cast iron blocks, it warps their aluminum heads.
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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BOOM!! have a nice day
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stillmatic
Look on the bright side. Used Scion motors are cheap.. Maybe a good reason to swap for a TC motor...
Not an option. It's much bigger, won't physically fit in the engine bay. If it fitted, it wouldn't mate to the transmission, and the transmisison and clutch would be too weak for the power anyway. Also the tC engine is reversed with the intake on the back and the exhaust in the front so nothing else would mate up. A tC-sized radiator wouldn't fit, and I don't know that the xB ECU would think of the tC engine.
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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^^^ not even sure it's a scion from the original post..
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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I would go to the manager, call him a really bad name like...like poopyFACE! over and over again until he breaks down in tears begging you to stop, but DON"T! Not until he mumbles a yes, he will replace the motor. Then have your mom come pick you up and take you to McDonalds for the Happy Meal that comes with the Shrek toy inside.... What do you mean "what should I do"!!
Wow!
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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Got engine... Yep he's gonna need a whole new engine. Oil is the blood of an engine without it everything goes to crap!

The receipt should have what tech did the oil change, either the shop will have to pay for it or make that tech pay for it out of his salary.
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:10 AM
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Well I just found out that the timing chain is broke on his Suzuki Areo (junk) and that it would be covered by his warrenty but I'm just wondering what would have made it break ?



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