Finally a company made a cat-back exhaust!

http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/images/aptcexhaust1a.jpg

http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/images/aptcexhaust15a.jpg

http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/images/aptcexhaust4a.jpg



Agency Power has always engineered products to provide a gain in performance, while offering a stylish alternative to enhance your vehicles appearance. The latest product from the Agency Power line up is this complete catback exhaust system for the Scion TC. What separates this from the competition is that the exhaust is a complete catback. Most exhausts on the market are only axle back. This system is complete 321 stainless steel with thick flanges. The piping is all 2.25 inch in diameter and fully polished. The exhaust includes amazing tig welds, mandrel bends, precision hangers, and a resonator for the perfect sound. The muffler is lightweight titanium burnt to offer a deep colorful look. The tip is 3.5 inch with the Agency Power logo laser etched and titanium as well.

The exhaust system was tested on an Automatic 2006 Scion TC. Using a Mustang AWD Dyno, we were able to get 6 wheel horsepower and 10ft/lbs of torque. Results for the manual car will be hiring. The complete catback offers a great race sound for the Scion TC. Please check out our video clip below.

http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/images/sciontcexh.wmv

um... not the first but definatly a nice one.

looks nice. but like davedavetc said, its not the first

First titanium, better?

that thing looks ricey as hell i will stick to the precision muffler whenever i get it

First titanium, better?

yep :D :silly:

that thing looks ricey as hell i will stick to the precision muffler whenever i get it

idk what exhaust ur lookin at but the one in this thread is sexy as hell!

lol he must have rice in his eyes :D hahah jk jk

Wow... pretty nice. An great choice for N/A set-ups

i'd like to hear a sound clip be4 i judge this one...but it looks nice

http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/64_73/products_id/215

evenbetter. a video clip... too bad i cant view it :( it messes up my firefox when i go to open it

Any other mod to the dynoed tC?

Geoff of Agency Power posted the following thread in regards to this exhaust...

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=151306&highlight=

Any other mod to the dynoed tC?

i dont believe so. and it was an auto also

soros151 The tC that we ran was bone stock (and auto :doh:)


ill you are making my job too easy!

bump.. this exhaust will be mine :)

soros151 The tC that we ran was bone stock (and auto :doh:)


ill you are making my job too easy!

lol. hook me up with this exhaust and we will call it even! :lalala:

hey kathryn! been awhile since i've seen you around on the forums. gosh... how have you been?

that exhaust looks niiiiice... but i'm happy with mine :P

how's your car coming along?

how much money are we talking here?

GB

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=151469&highlight=

titanium.

How much does this weight? Stock cat-back weight? Weight save, how much? Nice!

Sounds like a VW bug with a stinger megaphone pipe on it. Bleh.

$700!!! for that get the Tsudo N1 for ~$240 shipped and its the same thing!

$700!!! for that get the Tsudo N1 for ~$240 shipped and its the same thing!

:rofl: nowhere near the same thing... look at this and then look a this:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/ryanpreyes/Tsudo%20Exhaust/finished1.jpg

:eyebrow: same thing? err... not so much....

u really think theres a difference? the difference i see is the "silencer" on the muffler tip that can be removed... and the tsudo seems to have a bigger tip diameter

http://www.geocities.com/sjcfire45/ec08stc05_a.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/bronxblaza117/scion%20tC/exhaust1.jpg

ohh i think u might mean the rainbow on the muffler, well then i guess there u win, but otherwise not...

about the gains... there are not impresive... to be a full catback should be better gains... the GReddy's exhausts are getting 6hp and they are axlebacks...

Maybe because this is an auto?

bronx.. the muffler is titanium that is why it is soo much money.

plus, your comparing ebay quality to high quality. not dissin on the tsudo or anything.. i like both

I wouldn't call Tsudo as ebay quality, but yhea both are in different categories. Ti is like the holy grail of racing materials; because of it's weight and maybe thermal capacity. Does anyone know if this material helps in keeping heat in the exhaust's path? 2.25 is good for more low end torque, because of exhaust velocity. 2.5" is good after 2,700-3,000 RPMs. loosing torque below that.

u really think theres a difference? the difference i see is the "silencer" on the muffler tip that can be removed... and the tsudo seems to have a bigger tip diameter


ohh i think u might mean the rainbow on the muffler, well then i guess there u win, but otherwise not...

the differance is in the design and quality. not jus tthe looks.

hmmm for a catback thats kind of too little in power gains...for 700$ id rather get the ark cat back, dyno'd at 12-16 whp added

what diameter is the Ark?

hmmm for a catback thats kind of too little in power gains...for 700$ id rather get the ark cat back, dyno'd at 12-16 whp added

I'm pretty sure you will not get 12-16 whp under the same conditions.

On a stock auto tc with no other mods...

I think 6-7 horses is more believable.

I could be wrong though. Just my thought.

Bump for a great exhaust!!!

2.25 piping? I can't believe it actually made more power.

2.25 piping? I can't believe it actually made more power.

more power than?

^^guess he meant stock...since it's the same size

more power than what? that was my Q.

Love the sound but im not as fan of the burnt style cuz once it gets hot and its dirty it will look weird. but i live in a area with alot of dirt and water and my exhust is stained

titanium is made light and its doesnt bend to hits. but its cracks. and its worth some coin

2.25 piping? I can't believe it actually made more power.

more power than?

More power than the stock system.

It's a shame no one ever dynoed the megan drift spec exhaust because when I put it on, I definately felt a large gain. That one is 2.5" all the way.

I got 2.5" too.

For those of you who are not familiar with Agency Power, be aware that they are Vivid Racing. Do some searching under Vivid Racing and then order at your own risk.

^^^ Bingo Agency Power is CRAP!!!!^^^ Go buy an APC muffler and you will have the same quality.

First titanium, better?

yep :D :silly:


The description says it's Stainless Steel and that it was Titanium "Burnt"....

I bet I could get a Tsudo kit and place it next to this and the only difference would be the "burnt" muffler.

From the other thread http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=151306&highlight=


Dyno results and sound clips will be posted tomorrow.

The can is not for everyone, but it definitely sets your car apart from the rest!

The Ti can is surprisingly light too! I will have additional information tomorrow.

***I will tell you now that it sounds nasty!***

***It does sit at a slight angle upon exit***

***2.5 inch tubing makes for good power and no rasp***

***Price is TBD***



Well, is it 2.25 or is it 2.5? Not that I care or anything because I passed picking an exhaust out some time ago, but it would for sure benefit those who are seeking an exhaust to clarify what size piping it runs. As wether or not you are going F/I or staying N/A matters a great deal on pipe diameter.

Thanks for your criticism.

For those of you who are not familiar with Agency Power, be aware that they are Vivid Racing. Do some searching under Vivid Racing and then order at your own risk.

Agency-Power and Vivid Racing are two different companies. We are both in the same building and collaborate with each other for warehouse space, dyno testing, and product development. There are also three other tenants who share this building. Since I work at AP any problems are handled by me! I am on AIM under “APGeoff” for at least 10 hours a day. I will always be here for customer service related issues.

^^^ Bingo Agency Power is CRAP!!!!^^^ Go buy an APC muffler and you will have the same quality.

I see that you are from Colorado. Where do you get your car worked on? I have a strong network of dealers in that state who will attest that our products are quality and customer service is top notch. Just ask Chris at RX Motorsports, Tommy at Street Concepts, Lucas at Carz Custom, Tai at Cor Sport, and Bill at MAC auto. These are all my satisfied dealers in the state of CO alone.


If you have every had a bad experience with me or the Agency-Power products I can understand, but since you both dont even own our products your posts are inconclusive.
:loser:

Thanks for your criticism.

For those of you who are not familiar with Agency Power, be aware that they are Vivid Racing. Do some searching under Vivid Racing and then order at your own risk.

Agency-Power and Vivid Racing are two different companies. We are both in the same building and collaborate with each other for warehouse space, dyno testing, and product development. There are also three other tenants who share this building. Since I work at AP any problems are handled by me! I am on AIM under “APGeoff” for at least 10 hours a day. I will always be here for customer service related issues.



Sure man. Your the same company... but not. Good thing you set me straight.

Different business licenses, tax id's, sales staff, and accounting department=different company.

I don’t recall your order. Was there something that I didn’t do to upset you?

Thanks for your criticism.

For those of you who are not familiar with Agency Power, be aware that they are Vivid Racing. Do some searching under Vivid Racing and then order at your own risk.

Agency-Power and Vivid Racing are two different companies. We are both in the same building and collaborate with each other for warehouse space, dyno testing, and product development. There are also three other tenants who share this building. Since I work at AP any problems are handled by me! I am on AIM under “APGeoff” for at least 10 hours a day. I will always be here for customer service related issues.

^^^ Bingo Agency Power is CRAP!!!!^^^ Go buy an APC muffler and you will have the same quality.

I see that you are from Colorado. Where do you get your car worked on? I have a strong network of dealers in that state who will attest that our products are quality and customer service is top notch. Just ask Chris at RX Motorsports, Tommy at Street Concepts, Lucas at Carz Custom, Tai at Cor Sport, and Bill at MAC auto. These are all my satisfied dealers in the state of CO alone.


If you have every had a bad experience with me or the Agency-Power products I can understand, but since you both dont even own our products your posts are inconclusive.
:loser:

Well put Geoff.

Can you clarify the 2.25/2.5 and the stainless steel (burnt)/titanium questions?

Thanks for your criticism.

For those of you who are not familiar with Agency Power, be aware that they are Vivid Racing. Do some searching under Vivid Racing and then order at your own risk.

Agency-Power and Vivid Racing are two different companies. We are both in the same building and collaborate with each other for warehouse space, dyno testing, and product development. There are also three other tenants who share this building. Since I work at AP any problems are handled by me! I am on AIM under “APGeoff” for at least 10 hours a day. I will always be here for customer service related issues.

^^^ Bingo Agency Power is CRAP!!!!^^^ Go buy an APC muffler and you will have the same quality.

I see that you are from Colorado. Where do you get your car worked on? I have a strong network of dealers in that state who will attest that our products are quality and customer service is top notch. Just ask Chris at RX Motorsports, Tommy at Street Concepts, Lucas at Carz Custom, Tai at Cor Sport, and Bill at MAC auto. These are all my satisfied dealers in the state of CO alone.


If you have every had a bad experience with me or the Agency-Power products I can understand, but since you both dont even own our products your posts are inconclusive.
:loser:

I bought some of your rad hoses and suprise they didnt fit. After trying for a few weeks with no response from either you or the dealer i bought them from I trashed them. SO yes I do have a view and I will express it.

The exhaust tubing for the tC exhaust is 2.25in. The piping is 321 stainless steel. We chose to make our system from 321 because 321 is stabilized by Titanium (321) and/or Niobium (347). These grades are used because they are not sensitive to intergranular corrosion after heating. Grade 321 is the grade of choice for applications in high temperature ranges. Combining high strength, resistance to scaling and phase stability with resistance to subsequent aqueous corrosion, make this the perfect choice.

The muffler and tip are completely Ti. We agreed upon titanium because of its weight and strength characteristics. The finish is burnt for aesthetic value. (Also to let everyone know that you have a Ti exhaust)

Besides all true vendors with a truely great product can overcome the negatives and turn them into possitives. Again AP hasnt done that for me or some of the select buyers in other markets. SO untill then my views stand.

Different business licenses, tax id's, sales staff, and accounting department=different company.

I don’t recall your order. Was there something that I didn’t do to upset you?

Domain name: agency-power.com

Registrant:
Vivid Distributing LLC

1745 S. Holbrook Lane
Tempe, Arizona 85281
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Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: AGENCY-POWER.COM
Created on: 14-Jun-04
Expires on: 14-Jun-06
Last Updated on: 06-Jun-05

Administrative Contact:
Mermelstein, Dan sales@agency-power.com
Vivid Distributing LLC
1745 S. Holbrook Lane
Tempe, Arizona 85281
United States
4809663040

Technical Contact:
Mermelstein, Dan sales@agency-power.com
Vivid Distributing LLC
1745 S. Holbrook Lane
Tempe, Arizona 85281
United States
4809663040

And

Domain name: vividracing.com

Registrant Contact:
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+1.8664340212
Fax: +1.8664340211
2316 Delaware Ave Suite #266
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Administrative Contact:
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Dan Mermelstein (privacy@droa.com)
+1.8664340212
Fax: +1.8664340211
2316 Delaware Ave Suite #266
Buffalo, NY 14216-2687
US

Technical Contact:
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+1.8664340212
Fax: +1.8664340211
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Oh look. Same company, same people. Good luck ordering guys! Just search and do your own research.

BOXMAN PM sent. I am here to resolve the problem not cause problems. Let me know what I can do to help.

nice find tcengel

tcengle

our address is

465 E. Chilton dr.
Chandler AZ, 85257
http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/contact_us.php

Your information is out dated.


I am not trying to hide anything. If you are ever in the area you can check it out. You will be like a kid in a candy store. We have so many products here. I spend the majority of my pay check here :)

Agency power has always treated me good.. I only purchased one part from them (the crank pulley) but I didn't have any problems at all and the quality is great.

AP has refused to become a site sponsor. This should be locked! Also it wont mean anything if you offer to replace my rad hoses now. Where were you when I first asked for help? Or did i need to come bash you first before I would get a response?

BOXMAN I asked you about sponsor pricing in my last PM.

whats up with the badmouthing?

I had to go out and grab lunch. C'mon now a brotha has to eat!

I've got full cat back w/2.5. I personnaly can't stand angled exaust. Exaust is Skunk2 by the way.

Here is a PM that BOXMAN wrote to me:

"Geoff:

I am not a person to talk with about the sponsorship. I am just trying to avoid you having issues. ... Also I bashed your product due to the vague and general lack of support once AP recieves the money. I bought the hoses via Tai at corsport. Tai is my buddy so I will take care of it myself. ...."

This was paraphrased from his PM.

-Funny how he replies with this. This shows that I asked about the sponsorship making his previous post about me not wanting to sponsor fraudulent.




I took the time to call Tai at Corsport directly and neither he nor I have record of your purchase and "your buddy Tai" has no idea who you are.

Owned!!

I like the exhaust, how much does it weigh?

Funny I talk with Tai on a daily basis. I am not here to drag you into a BS argument. The issue I see is you stated to me I am not intrested in becoming a silver sponsor since we dont sell direct to the public. Also you stated that you werent sure if SL was the place to sell you stuff. Now go drag my name into the mud that you have played in for years! I have a reputation with people who know me and know who I work for and I can see you cant say that now can you? Also How did you look up my order with no NAME?

Thanks for the link on the sponsorship. Agency-Power is a manufacturer not a dealer. We do not sell directly to the public. Our dealer network is in charge of moving our products for us. I was the first one with the pics of the new exhaust. Our scion dealers were slow to post up the new pics so I created the account. I am not on here to sell to the public I am here to let your community know about our new product. We will be advertising on the forums, but have yet to decide on which ones. To be honest we would not benefit from the sponsored classifieds since we don’t sell direct. Could you work up a price for just a banner with our logo to run on your site?

Direct from AP's mouth. You benefit from people buying your products right? Well then pay to play buddy!

wooo this is great :D this thread sure killed a lot of my time :D

This thread has turned into a real soap opera.

stay tuned for more!

hey kathryn! been awhile since i've seen you around on the forums. gosh... how have you been?

that exhaust looks niiiiice... but i'm happy with mine :P

how's your car coming along?

Things are good here. I actually just received a TRD supercharger, so keep an ear out for the red tc boostin!

We have a scale here and the exhuast alone with no packaging came to 25.1 pounds. I would add roughly 6-7 pounds for packing material.

Also How did you look up my order with no NAME?


I have all the CorSport orders on my PC. He has never purchased a single hose kit

Geoff, how much does the system weigh? Forget the clowns, answer real customers plz.

Geoff, how much does the system weigh? Forget the clowns, answer real customers plz.

25.1 lbs

Damn, thats a solid 10lbs less then my current setup...

Stop tempting me Geoff, this would be my 4th exhaust for this car... :D

Here is a PM that BOXMAN wrote to me:

"Geoff:

I am not a person to talk with about the sponsorship. I am just trying to avoid you having issues. ... Also I bashed your product due to the vague and general lack of support once AP recieves the money. I bought the hoses via Tai at corsport. Tai is my buddy so I will take care of it myself. ...."

This was paraphrased from his PM.

-Funny how he replies with this. This shows that I asked about the sponsorship making his previous post about me not wanting to sponsor fraudulent.




I took the time to call Tai at Corsport directly and neither he nor I have record of your purchase and "your buddy Tai" has no idea who you are.


Ok, first of all, if you wer ein any way a respectable retailer, you wouldnt be acting like a kid that dropped his ice cream cone and posted on the forums with a look-i-told-you-so attitude. There is no reason to post his PRIVATE messages, hence the name PRIVATE. and dont start wit the i took the time to call blah blah,, BS, we can read between the lines...i dont care if nobody recalls, you never had the mans name!
let me play a sad song for you on my lil-violin

and do not try to outsmart us by saying this the info stated was out of date and that you got a new address, dont matter if u got a new address your still owned by the same damn company! dont play games, cause we can play games too

you can keep ur $700 BS exhaust anyway

ALL good companies bend over ___ backwards for the consumer, not come online and post bs in forums...take urself out of the situation next time, or ignore it

nice way to sell a product pal, its companies like yours that try to outsmart your sole reason for existance(aka US) that irk me

^^^ HA^^^ well said!

that thing looks ricey as hell i will stick to the precision muffler whenever i get it

times have changed mister.