http://www.batfa.com/new_car_toyota_bB.htm

man, good looking out, but seriously, we've been over this... the bB isn't coming to the US according to very solid sources, and those that participated n the focus groups to review the usdm 08 xB replacement.

it's all over this forum, bud.

my hunch is that it is going to look like this:

http://elyxr.com/cherrybox/08_camoscion.jpg
http://elyxr.com/cherrybox/greatwall_xB_front.jpg

but that is just pure speculation from what I've heard and the spy shot's i've seen.

why would 4wd only be avaliable with the cheaper model?

we aren't getting that chinese wannabe xb.

ewwwww. chinese knockoff! chinese knockoff!!!!

EXACTLY . a man who understands :)

i just hope scion and the folks at toyota dont drop teh ball with the redesign. the rav4 and camry redesigns have been successful, i hope the same of the upcoming xB and xD.

bringing that chinese knockoff to america would be considered a dropping of the ball, lol

here are a few that are for sale overseas currently.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB4.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB3.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB2.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB.jpg

the sad part is we wont be getting that one :(
i really wish toyota would change their mind about bringing it over

loooks like a cross between the scion xb and the chevrolet hhr, which isn't a bad thing, i think it looks pretty awesome. if i ever need an affordable car for mass transit, i'd get one!

we aren't getting that chinese wannabe xb.

ok, i'll take your word.

We're most definitely NOT getting the GWM CoolBear (the green "xB" above). I don't want the Chinese xB either. And I don't want the bB either and besides a lot of sources have pointed to no on getting it. Hurry Toyota, bring us the new xB already!! Did I see turn signals in the mirrors in the spy shot above??

what if the bB was one of those models. i mean yeah we can create hype and knowledge thru spy shots of "xB"'s runnin around but what if thats testing for something other?

i dunno i think it could happen

loooks like a cross between the scion xb and the chevrolet hhr, which isn't a bad thing, i think it looks pretty awesome. if i ever need an affordable car for mass transit, i'd get one! YUCK the hhr and any gm retro project is HIDEOUS and a HALF

Regardless of what anybody "knows" or thinks I'm personally hoping they bring the current bB body style over...I love it and would seriously consider trading in the RS3 for one.

why would 4wd only be avaliable with the cheaper model?

why is AWD only available on the IS250 and not the 350? (not to mention the MT as well).

Regardless of what anybody "knows" or thinks I'm personally hoping they bring the current bB body style over...I love it and would seriously consider trading in the RS3 for one.
i guess if you want to spend the money to try and import one over... that's a possiblity... otherwise... uhm.. yea.. "know".... for us... has no quotes.

Regardless of what anybody "knows" or thinks I'm personally hoping they bring the current bB body style over...I love it and would seriously consider trading in the RS3 for one.
i guess if you want to spend the money to try and import one over... that's a possiblity... otherwise... uhm.. yea.. "know".... for us... has no quotes.
i'm just being hopeful. i'm sure some of the dealership guys do know...and it's annoying :tap: does toyota require top secret security clearences to work there or what? lol

unfortunately not... but most dealerships are even held in the dark.. actually all of them in this case.

anyone who may remotely know are higher ups.. as in regional reps or something.

toyota has taken alot of measures to make sure nothing leaks out. including the new truck thay have planned.

unfortunately not... but most dealerships are even held in the dark.. actually all of them in this case.

anyone who may remotely know are higher ups.. as in regional reps or something.

toyota has taken alot of measures to make sure nothing leaks out. including the new truck thay have planned.

yeah we got this local guy in orlando, name is mel, he worked for toyota in the mid/late 90's for the latin america division and he showed us all these classified documents, which obviously are now unclassified, and it showed EVERYTHING!!!

including the new truck thay have planned.
shh stop it! :P

not all but the vast majority of dealership guys know less than i do. i thin kit's funny when they ask me about scion updates. lol

hopefully some sort of new toyota or scion vehicle will be a badarsed lil street truck. bout the size of old toyota "truck" pickups.

not all but the vast majority of dealership guys know less than i do. i thin kit's funny when they ask me about scion updates. lol

haha ditto. i asked about the xA RS3 a month before they got their first one on the lot and i knew more bout it than the new car sales manager did

That green RS3 is awesome. Why would you get rid of it ? just get a second car. I saw one driving behind us on the road and it made all the other cars around it look gray. It reminded me of those commercials where everything is drab an grey except the item they were selling which was cool, colorful and stood out.

My brother has the orange RS1 which is nice especially down here in UT (longhorn) country, but the green is much better.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB2.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB.jpg

These are both pretty tight!

i hate the fenders with a passion and a half.

glad we aren't getting it. 8)

i wouldn't mind it too much really.. but neah... i'm glad scion is breaking apart a bit more.

why would 4wd only be avaliable with the cheaper model?

The 4WD model is the most expensive.

if you think about it though... 4wd is becoming a standard for smaller vehicels. i wouldn't be suprised if it was the cheaper option soon for alot of vehicels...

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB2.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB.jpg

These are both pretty tight!

I'd buy an xB if it had the 2.4 or larger engine.

Toyota F3R...it's like the bigger new bB but similar in size to the xB replacement spy pictures:
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2006_detroit/toyota/f3r/images/01.jpg

if you think about it though... 4wd is becoming a standard for smaller vehicels. i wouldn't be suprised if it was the cheaper option soon for alot of vehicels... they can't just say hey this is popular make it cheaper.


awd costs a lot more than rwd or rwd. weighs more . kills gas mileage.



not all that attractive in a very small car in all reality.

Toyota F3R...it's like the bigger new bB but similar in size to the xB replacement spy pictures:
http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2006_detroit/toyota/f3r/images/01.jpg

no that thing is behemouth.


it's close to alphard size. ( full sized toyota van in japan )

From what I understand from someone who went to Texas for the Toyota meeting is that the next "tall 4 door wagon /mpv" will be similar to the t2b, just not with all the odd things. District Manager had said it will also not be called a xB nor will it be called a bB and we will also not receive the 3rd Generation Toyota bB.

From what I understand from someone who went to Texas for the Toyota meeting is that the next "tall 4 door wagon /mpv" will be similar to the t2b, just not with all the odd things. District Manager had said it will also not be called a xB nor will it be called a bB and we will also not receive the 3rd Generation Toyota bB.

I'd put my money on the xB replacement being based on the new JDM Toyota Corolla Fielder wagon but with a body shape strongly akin to the Scion T2B concept car and could even accommodate the 2.4-liter I-4 from the Scion tC sports coupe. It is essentially the first US-legal Toyota/Scion model based on the next-generation Corolla platform.

we are getting stuff off the old corolla platform if what i've been told is correct. either way it'll be ugly , heavy , slow. and get bad mileage

here are a few that are for sale overseas currently.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB4.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB3.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB2.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/narcolepsy123456/bB.jpg

Exactly what kinda of vechile are those?

The new bB in Japan. This is what replaced our car over there. We will not be getting it here.

I'd put my money on the xB replacement being based on the new JDM Toyota Corolla Fielder wagon but with a body shape strongly akin to the Scion T2B concept car and could even accommodate the 2.4-liter I-4 from the Scion tC sports coupe. It is essentially the first US-legal Toyota/Scion model based on the next-generation Corolla platform.

This is exactly what I have been told it will be.

By the way, this level of secrecy is not new with Toyota. I've been with them for almost 13 years and we almost never see anything of substance until the cars are almost ready to arrive. The only exception is if the car its replacing has essentially sold out. For instance, the Sienna pics and specs were released almost a year before it came out because there were almost no Previas left by that point. The same thing happened when the Tundra replaced the T100. On the other hand, the current Runner was hidden until almost the day it was released because we still had the old ones in stock. Same with every generation of the Camry.

I actually come here to see if y'all have found something that I didn't know. I usually find one or two tid bits that seem plausible.

I am a newbie here. I know cliffy1 from Toyota sites about six years ago, don't you not work for a Toyota dealer? Anyway, I want to thank this board for sharing information and I just bought white xB auto last week. I did not want the bigger engine on new up coming model. I like the current xB, it is a no frill simple car with a good value. I think this new replacement is one way to raise the price by Toyota/Scion for mo profit.

I am a newbie here. I know cliffy1 from Toyota sites about six years ago, don't you not work for a Toyota dealer?

Yup... that's me. I'm at Springfield Toyota/Scion. We're a site sponsor here.

As to info on the next generation xB, I suspect others here will get new information before I do. We have a winter roundtable meeting coming up in late January and I expect we'll get a ton of info there, but the California dealers will probably get it first.