i will probably be bashed for this question but i have searched and i just don't understand any of the lingo for what is being said about sound systems..i am looking for a system that isn't to loud and won't fill my back hatch. i don't need it to be extremely loud just louder than our stock. would one 10" sub work if i bought all new speakers also? and which sub and amplifier would you reccomend to buy from ED. any thoughts would help..thanks

If you're not looking to be completely earth-shattering, two SQ10s and a Nine2.x would be excellent. Or a Nine.4 bridged, when they're not backordered.

the best question for a sound system is how much are you willing to spend. from there we can help you some more...

If you're not looking to be completely earth-shattering, two SQ10s and a Nine2.x would be excellent. Or a Nine.4 bridged, when they're not backordered. but see i don't know speakers so all that i really don't understand..but i am willing to spend 200-300 most likley is that enough or no?

Unless using a mono block amp and some wiring know-how, generally every speaker takes up one channel on an amp. The Nine.4 has four. However, you can "bridge" the channels together to make two channels with more power. Each SQ10 can use each channel. A Nine.2x provides similar, if not more, power without bridging. A Nine.2x would be the best choice for two SQ10s.

In my opinion, 300 is not enough for a good-sounding setup, sorry. I'm still paying off my door speakers, which, after wiring and all the other necessary trinkets came to a little over $1000. However, I have very rich tastes. :silly: And a sub set-up will cost significantly less. Actually, part of that $1k is so I can simply attach the power wire for my future sub setup and go. Ok, i'm going to shut up and stop editing now.

200-300 for just the sub and amp? yea thats do able.

can you build a box or do you have to buy one?

what about a headunit (if you're keeping your stock headunit you need a LOC or something so you can hook up the amp) and what about replacing the front speakers?

is space saving a priority?

you need to push that amount up to atleast 500. you first need a sub, then a box for that sub. then to power you obviously need an amp, then you need an amp kit to wire everything up. also you may need some rca's because most amp kits do not come with them. another thing is, who is installing? you or a garage? you can get a good 10' sub for aroun 125-150. a good box built to specs may run around 80-100 depending on if you go ported or sealed. a good amp usually will cost more than your sub so expect around 200 if not more, then wires you can get some monster cables for around 60 bucks...then if you need install...no more that 70 for insatll...my garage only charges 55 install for the amp...sub included. hope that helps.

I just bought my system from eD today and ordered an sq10, box, amp, front components and the door baffles for them for just over $500 which I think is a helluva deal. You should give them a call and they can walk you through everything you would need.

Yo.
I am trying to spend a little on a really good hard hitting but not really hard hitting system. Catch my drift?
I already have a sub and amp. I have a 8" kicker, which hammers, and a rockford fosgate amp. I have stock headunit.
I wanna keep the headunit, but I want to replace the speakers.
Whats the perferable good speaker thats kinda cheap do they have?
I am gonna amp them to my amp, she can handle it.
So I want good speakers that can handle high wattage good and are actually good. Or ideas for a system.
Where do you get those basic crossovers at? I want to hook up maybe eu-700 in the side panels hooked up to a crossover and a tweeter and run it to the amp. I am thinking that for all four speakers. Idk...
Ideas please!

300 watts on a 10" sub is plenty for someone who just wants some lowend fill, and not ear shattering bass.

300 watts on a 10" sub is plenty for someone who just wants some lowend fill, and not ear shattering bass.
I agree. Most of us are referring to $$$. :P

Oh, well even then. I bought a brand new Punch 200.2 amp for $170, which is somewhere over 400 watts max, an SQ10 for $55, that leave a little under $100 for wiring and a box. Absolutely doable. Especially if you build the box.

$300 will be a stretch, but personally, I love the challenge of budget systems that still use quality parts.

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First off: wiring. It's essential, so check out KnuKonceptz (http://www.knukonceptz.com/) for a wiring kit and one additional fuse. I would reccommend at least a 4 gauge kit, since you may want to upgrade later. The actual gauge should be matched to the amperage rating on your amp though (number of fuses x fuse rating (i.e. 30 amp fuse) = amount of amperage the amplifier is pulling). Check out www.the12volt.com for more detailed info on this.
Another important tip: Fuse the wire less than 18" from the battery, and again less than 18" from the amp (providing it does not pass through any metal after that fuse).

Second: Headunit. If you want to keep the factory one, then get a Line-out-converter or search for the LOC harness someone sells on here. This converts the rear speaker signal into an RCA input for the Amp. The downside to this is that now "sub control" is now your rear channel on your HU (I've always prefered to have a seperate sub control).
Keeping the factory HU means saving money though, as I would budget at least $200 for a HU (Pioneer Premier's are good HU's for around $200 on eBay).

Third: Sub Box. Best bet for the box is to go to Homedepot/Lowes and look for their scrap wood bin/cart (usually around the saws, called cull lumber). This stuff usually runs $0.51 - $4.01 for a piece, and is much cheaper than the sheets. It's usually cut from someone elses sheet, but with a $3 box of drywall screws and some $2 wood glue, you can easily build a box for under $20. Make friends with an employee and have them look out for MDF being sold cheap.

If you've done your homework, steps 1-3 should have cost you less than $100.

Forth: Sub(s). I'd suggest one decent sub over two crappy ones. If you build the box right, one sub is all you'll need. If you want to go ED, their K-series are around $100 for a sub. Alpine type R's are about the same price on eBay. You can also find some Rockford Fosgate, Diamond, JL, and Boston Acostic subs there as well.

Finally: Amp: It's going to be a little tougher to find an amp for around $100 (shipped). However, I did a quick search on eBay and found some Infinity (reference), Kicker, MTX, Blaupunkt, Pioneer, and Clarion Amps for around $100. Obviously, you'll need to match the wattage of the amp to the sub.

Call up eD and they will steer you in the right direction.

PM this guy: mandos http://www.scionlife.com/profile/mandos

he works for elemental design and can probably help you out, his name is Chris Schempp and he's super nice.

he just did a 32 speaker install in the back of his tC...crazy...see link: http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2151839#2151839[/url]

thanks every one for the help and M this guy: mandos http://www.scionlife.com/profile/mandos

he works for elemental design and can probably help you out, his name is Chris Schempp and he's super nice.

he just did a 32 speaker install in the back of his tC...crazy...see link: http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2151839#2151839[/url]
thank you for this i hit him up..so hopefully he can help too

Yes, Chris is a super guy and is willing to help out anyone... make sure he knows you're from ScionLife cause you'll get a discount for that...

I'd say 1 SQ10 + Scion tC SQ10 box + NIne.4 (or Nine.2) would be the perfect setup for you... would run around $400-$450sih if you can install yourself or have a buddy help you..

Yes, Chris is a duper guy and is willing to help out anyone... make sure he knows you're from ScionLife cause you'll get a discount for that...

I'd say 1 SQ10 + Scion tC SQ10 box + NIne.4 (or Nine.2) would be the perfect setup for you... would run around $400-$450sih if you can install yourself or have a buddy help you..

alright cool thatnks then i'll order that from ED when i get the money

Get the SQ10 and eD's slimbox...it fits next to your spare tire so you don't use up your "trunk" space at all.

whats the difference between a single 2 or single 4 voice coil?

It's the impedance(resistance) of the subwoofer. You should get whatever will match the amplifier you're getting. Higher resistance runs cooler and gives you a more stable setup...but you usually get less power than the same amp running at a lower impedance.

thanks again everyone this helped out alot im gonna go with the sq10, nine.4, and the sq 10 slim box.. and leter on try for the edi 600 that chris told me about..

My brother and I just slapped a 12" L7 kicker in his little mazda b2300 truck wit a 1000 watt amp and DAMN!

sorry dont wanna thread jack its just that we did it last night and im all stoked:)

With the Nine.4, you'll want an S4 (single 4 ohm VC) subwoofer

Already taken care of :)

You waste no time do you? ;)

So, was he under $300? :D

Nope. Sub + box = $205. Amp = $185 but he can just drop in components when the time comes. Wiring kit, $45.

So it's a little over $400, but when he wants front speakers, they've got amp power already :)

please below and express your opinions of this sub.



http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=92&products_id=183

Thanks guys! Was looking at the SQ 10 then saw this on front page

^^^^

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?t=3&products_id=183

ehqs12? the best subwoofer $25 will buy. it'll need a bigger box than the sq10, kvs, and ovs. If you're comparing the sq10 and the ehqs12...its sort of apples and oranges. The sq10 brillance is its shallow mounting depth and its box size efficency. The ehqs12's brillance is its price point....blow it? buy another try again. Each line of eD is focusing on a certain area...but they all sound great...

i :love: eD



http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/278070004_50d031d3a2.jpg

^^^^ so the question is 50 for SQ10 or 25 for the other whats the better buy?

better buy in terms of what?

2 ehqs12 = $50 vs 1 sq10 = $50....

the ehqs's will be louder....a lot louder if you port them. its simple ...you'd be able to give the ehqs more power and even if you didn't they'd move more air based on so much more cone area.

sound quailty? probably fairly close...although i'd never heard either of them, i'd tend to think of the sq10 as being closer with the K - serise in terms of sq, so I'd give the nod to the sq10.

now try fitting an ehqs under your seat or in the compartment in the trunk? good luck. This is where the sq10 shines.

you want to save your trunk, and don't need to be hella loud? then buy the sq. if you want to get loud and don't care about space saving and you're on a budget buy the ehqs.

^^^ EXACTLY!!!!!

the SQ10 it is....space saving and sound qaulity win it for me!

Thanks!

While this is a topic about ED, where's my wiring and fuse guys!? I got the 65lbs of eDead, but the other 15lbs hasn't even shipped.

While this is a topic about ED, where's my wiring and fuse guys!? I got the 65lbs of eDead, but the other 15lbs hasn't even shipped.

call them...i don't think they spend much time on scionlife...too busy

Phone : 641.792.2501

While this is a topic about ED, where's my wiring and fuse guys!? I got the 65lbs of eDead, but the other 15lbs hasn't even shipped.

call them...i don't think they spend much time on scionlife...too busy

Phone : 641.792.2501
Thanks, but the rest of my stuff that I need for the install is still in the mail as well, and Chris will be over this thread sometime. Nothing I need to tie up the phones with.

Yeah, better in an e-mail or a call, but I'll just post it :)

Our UPS man = very early the last couple days. It'll go out today, we've been insanely busy and when UPS is here an hour and a half early and we start shipping an hour and a half late...well...yeah.

I went and told Alex to get it out today though :)

Now I'm off to help make sure everything gets out before the weekend and we get more tC SQ10 boxes cut and assembled.

Thanks for keeping me working :)

:clap:

whats the difference between a single 2 or single 4 voice coil?

Wow, you really need to search.

whats the difference between a single 2 or single 4 voice coil?

Wow, you really need to search.
The differences shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I think he's having trouble with what the actual purpose serves for each.

Here's what he needs:

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/elementaldesigns_wiring.php

The difference is the resistance to electrical current... the higher the impedance (measured in ohms) the more resistance that speaker presents to the current... You can use different combinations of impedances to obtain the optimal impedance load that your amp requires to put out full potential power...

i just wanna say i got my ed stuff in yesterday and it pounds. i called someone while i was driving and they thought i was breaking up bc the sound was so intense they couldn't hear my voice. I LOVE IT