View Full Version : xB Rear Sidemarker Lights


08-10-2004, 11:09 PM
Are clear rear sidemarker lights available for the xB?? I havn't seen any specifically for it, or a close match from another toyo product. Anyone???

debris
08-10-2004, 11:11 PM
good luck ...ive been looking forever....anyone know what we dont?

Old_Punk
08-11-2004, 12:02 AM
I went out and poked around my xB to see how the rear markers are installed. If you crawl under the car a bit you can see the back of the lights and the wiring. Seems to me they're easy enough to pop out and unplug. Once you do that, you should be able to take about any other clear marker light that's big enough to cover the hole in the bumper and attach it with double stick foam tape. I wouldn't be surprised if the front fender lights plugged right into the hole and the wiring harness. If not, there's a good chance some clear markers made for another Toyota would fit.

Oh, and I saw some clear marker lights a Pep Boys last Saturday.

phatboy
08-11-2004, 12:07 AM
I was thinking about this subject the other day. I was wondering if you got another set of front fender sidemarkers, how hard it would be to put them in place of the rear sidemarkers, but using a red bulb.

Thoughts?

Joe
Scinergy IA

JdMBboFSD
08-11-2004, 04:36 AM
keep me posted.....i would like to know as well.......

windowtint
08-12-2004, 03:10 AM
You can get to the back of the light easier if you just remove the 10mm bolt on the edge of the wheel well holding the bumper flange in place. Pull the bumper back and you can acces the single bolt/washer combo on the back of the light.

Take note though, the hole that the light goes into is nearly as big as the light too. Small lights like the fender mounted directional light aren't going to work for obvious reasons

AleXb
08-12-2004, 04:07 AM
i want smoked rear sidemarkers :D

-Alex B.

windowtint
08-12-2004, 04:28 AM
well, easy enough.

1 10mm socket or wrench

1 can of smoked taillight spray from FoliaTec, NOPI, local rice shop, wherever

take out lights, spray till they're dark enough for you, reassemble.

A LOT easier than tracking down interchangable clear markers.

Old_Punk
08-12-2004, 11:59 AM
I stopped by the parts department while I was at the Toyota dealer yesterday and asked the price on the front fender marker lights. After he pulled it up on his computer, he showed me there were two parts -- the lens assembly (#81731-51021) and the bulb socket that plugs into the lens (#90075-60005).

From my brief look at the diagram, it looks like the front fender markers COULD be a direct swap with the rear markers.

The way to find out would be to pop out the markers on your car to see if it works. I haven't tried accessing the fender markers yet, but you must be able to get to them in order to replace the bulbs. The question is whether there's anything holding them in place, like adhesive, our whether they're just held by prongs.

WFO
08-12-2004, 12:09 PM
take out inner fender plastic :oops:

Old_Punk
08-12-2004, 12:18 PM
well, easy enough.

1 10mm socket or wrench

1 can of smoked taillight spray from FoliaTec, NOPI, local rice shop, wherever

take out lights, spray till they're dark enough for you, reassemble.

A LOT easier than tracking down interchangable clear markers.


Um, but that gives you smoked lights instead of clear.

windowtint
08-13-2004, 03:26 AM
uhhhh... welll... yeah??!!??


That would make my directions an appropriate answer to AlexB's post directly above mine where he said

i want smoked rear sidemarkers

-Alex B.


Also, the front side markers will NOT work on the rear bumper marker location. The hole that's behind the red marker light is BIGGER THAN the clear front fender lights..

Unless you don't mind doing some plastic-welding work and painting to shrink the hole, it aint gonna work (I've physically checked).

The rear marker light "problem" will either be 1. waiting for someone to make them, 2. casting your own one-offs from Castalite in a mold (WORK), or 3, the easiest, ind a lens from a different car that fits and looks good.

JdMBboFSD
08-13-2004, 03:34 AM
thanks windowtint.......will be doing that soon....

Old_Punk
08-13-2004, 12:08 PM
"Also, the front side markers will NOT work on the rear bumper marker location. The hole that's behind the red marker light is BIGGER THAN the clear front fender lights."

I was afraid of that. Thanks for the info. You saved me some work.

krazylowgsx
08-15-2004, 06:21 AM
i'msetting out on a mission monday to find some clear lights that will work. i'll let you guys now what i find!

bB2NER
08-15-2004, 06:49 AM
OK let us know what you find out THANKS! :lol:

Old_Punk
08-15-2004, 01:22 PM
I noticed 4 styles of generic/universal clear side markers by APC at the auto parts store. I didn't have anything to measure with so I don't know if they were large enough to cover the hole in the bumper.

Alan
08-15-2004, 02:35 PM
It would be nice if someone out there made some marker lights that were a little more flush fit to the bumper. The stockers really stick out. I'm going to just give the Night Shades a shot. My car is pretty much black anyways, so hopefully they will blend in a bit more.

Your other choice is just remove them all together and fabricate some sort of cover plate and paint it body color.

phatboy
08-15-2004, 03:05 PM
I've decided to make a paint mask that has the bB logo on it and paint the rest of the markerlight body color. That will still accomplish the basic look I'm going for until something better comes along.

Joe
Scinergy IA

bB2NER
08-15-2004, 03:52 PM
Hadn't really thought about doin anything with em up til now but my curiosity has peaked and it's time to modify 8)

windowtint
08-15-2004, 04:49 PM
I (well, most anyone actually) could cast the lens peice some from a silicon mold and using a 'water-clear' UV stable resin, but it would strictly be a one-off deal. You may be able to get 3 or 4 sets before the mold was not any good.

Before clear versions are available, someone with pockets is going to have to have metal molds made to fit an injection molder - and for this little part in a such a limited market... I wouldn't hold my breath.

I think a more feasible approach is going to be for me (and others) is if there is no direct 'other-model' lens that fits, and I doubt there is by the size of the hole in the bumper, is to remove the light and fit a new flush light in it's place. Now you're talking body work and paint. -Which is the route I think I'll take.

Right now I'm considering using the clear bumper lights from a 95 style Prelude or Accord. Totally flush, narrow profile, would look good.

Or.... less than a swap would be just to shave them totally as on some JDM models.

randode
08-15-2004, 04:55 PM
take out inner fender plastic :oops:
actually, just pop the light out of the fender with your fingernail.

Male_Nurse
08-15-2004, 04:59 PM
About the front fender side markers...I've always wanted my front side markers to be on continuously w/ my headlights. Can you guys explain to me how to do that??

windowtint
08-15-2004, 05:22 PM
just attatch the (+) wire coming off the side marker light to the (+) wire of the headlight's running light wire (that's the little light behind the orange lens in the corner of the headlight housing).

Done.

You'll need for two sides, about 6' of 18? 20ga.? wire, 2 butt connectors and two crimp-on wire taps.

snip the wire off the fender light, strip back 1/2" of jacket to expose wire, get a 3' section of the extra wire, strip one end of about 1/2" jacket, put both stripped ends in the butt connector and crimp (I always put both in on the same side as it will leave the other side open for future use if ever needed - important in doing car audio!). now locate the (+) coming off the headlight marker and using the crimp on wire tap, attach the other end of the 3' wire to that wire.

repeat on other side.

Male_Nurse
08-15-2004, 05:49 PM
do i have to take off each fender to do this process??

windowtint
08-15-2004, 08:36 PM
pull the wheel well liners back is the most I expect - I don't know, I haven't done it personally. (I just know HOW it's wired.)

08-15-2004, 08:46 PM
actually i saw a set of clear oval side markers somewhere, i dont know if they were for the front or rear, but i know there are some different ones out there.

windowtint
08-16-2004, 01:42 AM
There are a number of different ones for the front fenders available. If anyone else has a bB Bible, you can scan through and find a good dozen or so styles. Most are simply true clear lenses with diamond cut pattern housings.